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I'm not usually one for speculating much, but I found this piece interesting...basically they're saying that between the BCS reboot and the ridiculous MWC-CUSA merger, there could be a case for BSU and SDSU to stay put instead of going to the Big East. I'm not really sure I buy the logic here, but it's interesting...

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It'll all hinge on the TV contract imo.

I just can’t see how each individual school in a 24 team league that stretches from coast to coast can get a bigger cut of TV money than it can in the Big East.

There are other factors. While the TV money will split a number of ways in the Big East due to the basketball only schools (which are rumored to be considering splitting off and forming their own league btw), the BCS earnings are split among the football schools only and the lions share of that goes to the school that played in the game.

Playing all sports in the MWC/USA thing would also be extremely expensive when you consider travel for ALL sports. Having most of our sports based regionally and travelling in football only for the BE mitigates the expenditures quite a bit.

So A) I don’t think we would gain as big a split of TV revenue in the MWC/USA and B) I think we would spend more in travel costs in the MWC/USA. It’s a double negative that could send us back to the Mid Majors for good.

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by pjohn56 on Feb 29, 2026 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

You need to keep in mind

that is all speculation and the source is the Marshall blog of all places. As it sits right now half of that alliance has overall losing records. I have come to the conclusion that the pro-merger folks are downright delusional, somehow thinking that banding together a bunch of non-AQs in large numbers is going to make them be the next step from the Big 5 conferences. Furthermore no one factors in the colossal amount of additional revenue they would need to generate in order to make up for the additional mouths to feed (especially if they plan on having 20 plus members) and outside of Air Force there aren’t any markets in there that are super-desirable (yeah I’ve heard the Rice has Dallas, Tulane has New Orleans, UNLV has Las Vegas arguments) but let’s face it the last 20 years have not been kind to ANY of those teams in the broad scheme of things. I know the same can be said for some of the Big East schools coming on board but I would still take SMU in Dallas over Rice any day of the week. Further consider that none of us has a vote of confidence in Hair Thompson’s choices or his ability to negotiate a decent media deal that magically makes his teams disappear from the face of the earth for media exposure. This idiot is steering the ship of this new merger. THANKS BUT NO THANKS!!!!!!!!!!

by Jesterrace on Feb 29, 2026 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm well aware it's speculation...

It’s the first time I’ve seen this particular argument that MWC/CUSA could get a decent TV deal…as I said before, I’m not sure I buy it. I’m also well aware that this is coming from the Marshall blog, which is about as reliable as if it was coming from a Fanshot on OBNUG. Wait a minute…

"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.

by NYBroncosFan on Feb 29, 2026 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I've seen it plenty

by the loons over at the Mountain West Connection. Big debate going on over there right now over this and their logic is akin to Wylie E. Coyote’s faith that his ACME products will work. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against the alliance and I think they will be better off overall but any fantasies that this conference will be better than the Big East are delusional. If the Big East gets poached again, guess which conference will lose more of it’s best remaining programs?

by Jesterrace on Feb 29, 2026 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

"Whattya got in the way of a sure-fire TV deal for a patchwork conference?"

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by SeniorChief on Feb 29, 2026 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The only way BSU doesn't join the Big East

is if they get an invite to either the pac12 of big12. And I don’t see that happening any time soon. The $ involved with the TV deal will be needed to expand the stadium and other facilities. The mwc/confusa merger will not get a big tv deal. sure there are a lot of team that cover a lot of markets but they are all second and third tier teams in those markets. I suggest we all sit back and enjoy the ride.

The AD and school in general are doing all they can to grow every aspect of BSU. That all takes money.

by BearLakeBronco on Feb 29, 2026 10:59 AM PST reply actions  

tired of hearing these

wishes and invites to the big12 or pac12. pac12 comissioner has already said the conference will not be expanding anytime soon and the big12 (to me) is out of the question. sure we can play football with those schools, but joining a conference is more than just sports, its about the school as a whole, athletics AND academics.

and BSU is a one trick pony with a few sideshows (football, wrestling, gymnastics…?)

by kyoung87 on Feb 29, 2026 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

BSU leaves for the

BIG EAST solely for the TV money (new contract with FOX is estimated to be over 100 million) and a SHOT (keyword: SHOT) at becoming that AQ school. BSU is the key piece for the BIG EAST to try and retain that AQ status.

as far as the merger…if houston, south florida and smu were staying with C-USA during this merger (they are coming to the BIG EAST also in 2013) then it would be a little different. if those schools were to stay then i would give the MWC/C-USA league the AQ status before the BIG EAST (my opinion). BSU, Houston, South Florida and SMU have all done better than the BIG EAST schools have done in the past 4 years. include Fresno, Nevada, Hawaii, Louisville etc. and that super league has some good to great teams, not like the BIG EAST who can barely put a single team in the top 25.

i c the BIG EAST as a sinking ship and BSU is the only chance it has at retaining its AQ status. BSU and the BIG EAST know it

by kyoung87 on Feb 29, 2026 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

for a year or two..

There will be no more AQ/nonAQ after 2013

by AAFORS on Feb 29, 2026 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

Nope just

SEC, Big 10, Big 12, PAC 12 and then everyone else. In other words the inequality will only get worse.

by Jesterrace on Feb 29, 2026 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

PLAYOFF!!

everyone including the BCS Bowl commissioners know what a sham the BCS is and its going to change.

i suggest u reduce the number of bowl games and teams that have a WINNING record (not .500) and keep some of the BCS Bowls as hosts for the playoff games. the playoff being the top 4 teams. so essentially a rotation of 3 BCS Bowl games every year to host the playoffs.

by kyoung87 on Mar 1, 2026 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

if a team has

a WINNING record then it should go to a bowl game.

none of this .500 stuff

by kyoung87 on Mar 1, 2026 1:16 AM PST up reply actions  

It appears that the first round playoff games (semifinals in four team model) will be on-campus games...

That seems to be the way things are leaning, most recently coming out of Larry Scott’s mouth. So if the BCS sites host playoff games, it would be the championship game only. I happen to agree with that…fans can’t travel to multiple neutral sites week after week.

"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.

by NYBroncosFan on Mar 1, 2026 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Even though fans hate the BCS, schools love it

They make more money for going to the Hostess Twinkie Bowl than they do for losing in the first round of a playoff. When you get down to it cash rules college football. I hate the BCS system, but I don’t think it will be replaced.

by Cards86 on Mar 1, 2026 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Article comments about TCU

Completey missed the fact that the reason the Frogs moved on is because the Big 12, always the real goal, needed to replace the Aggies. No way anything the Big East could offer would compete with that. They made it sound like it was all about the TV contract.

The cool thing is now the blue and orange powers that be have time to evaluate the landscape. Based on the current pace of change in the FBS, goodness knows what might happen over the next year.

Somebody wake up and tell me when to show up at Bronco Stadium and I am good.

by HSridge on Feb 29, 2026 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

Not. Going. To. Happen.

If BSU were to even consider staying it should only be if SDSU, SMU, Houston, and UCF do also. Without those five schools the Alliance has Tulsa and So.Miss. The Big East has those five schools plus Cinci, Temple, USF, Rutgers, and Louisville. As far as SOS is concerned the Big East is better for Boise. And who are these people talking about a bigger media deal for the MWCUSA? The Alliance has no major media areas left. The Big East will have Memphis, New York, Philly, Orlando, Tampa, San Diego, Houston, Dallas, and Cincinnati. Yes I know that some of those schools are second or third in their city (eg SMU), but that doesn’t matter to the TV people. All they care about is potenital. You have Dallas. It doesn’t matter that TCU and UT are bigger draws. You have Dallas. Besides, who really wants to watch Tulsa vs. UNLV, or Nevada vs. UAB. Big whoop.

by B.D.Bronco on Feb 29, 2026 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

Even if Market Saturation is a factor

let’s compare:

Rice vs SMU in the Dallas market-’nuff said.

by Jesterrace on Mar 1, 2026 12:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Um, Rice is in Houston

Just sayin’

"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.

by NYBroncosFan on Mar 1, 2026 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoops

looks like I need to brush up on my Texas geography. Either way

Houston vs Rice in Houston Market-’nuff said.

by Jesterrace on Mar 1, 2026 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Endowments

MWC/USA..(16)…………………………….4.67 Billion

Big East football only(10)………………….4.68 Billion
(includes SMU-UH-UCF-T-M)
Big East basketball only w/o ND.(7)……..2.60 Billion

Total Big East with ND(1)…………………14.09 Billion

Boise St………………………………………79 Million
SDSU………………………………………..180 Million

Since endowments are important, it looks like even if we were only limited to the pool of football schools in the Beast, it would be equal to that of the Alliance. However, if we are pooled with the BBall schools & ND, it would be triple that of the Alliance.
If ND ever does join, The Big East/West could be great. One of ND’s greatest games with one of its greatest players was against Houston, and if SMU regains its prominence, along with Boise St, ND who’s not keen on the BIG, just might be intrigued. Especially if the Beast/west can entice them with a more lucrative TV package, which includes Football & Basketball. How hard would it be to merge the ND TV package with the Beast/west TV package?

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Feb 29, 2026 8:43 PM PST reply actions  

ND

won’t give up independence unless forced to do so, so I don’t see it. That said you do make an interesting point about the huge value of the BBall schools to the conference and potential overall market value. The Big East at the very least is a very desirable bball conference, the alliance? Umm, a collection of decent teams that pop into the ranks of greatness every now and then (barring maybe Southern Miss) in football and a select few bball schools that are good. While it’s true that Big East bball doesn’t affect us directly it’s overall value to the conference definitely puts it in a more marketable position and might get a better deal overall.

by Jesterrace on Mar 1, 2026 12:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I hear you on ND. it would be no easy deal.

What I know about ND, is the only conference that really made sense, was the BIG, and if you study the history(roots) of why they weren’t let in in the first place, you’ll understand why they won’t go there. It may seem small to us, but its no small matter to ND. Its a great source of their pride. What I’m seeing now (with some serious creativity) is a small window of opportunity. They already have their foot in the door, and the two have no sorted past. Also, the Big East/West is growing, and will soon surround them regionally. With the new super conferences hooking up, Independence is going to be more difficult. “So” if a more lucrative TV deal can be reached, that would offer ND more profit, ND would be able to finally enter a conference that makes sense financially, regionally, and stregnth wise, and at the same time snub their “Irish” noses at Michigan & the BIG, once and for all.
I had this conversation with a good friend of mine (ND grad), and he has been as adamant as you, until I pointed out the scenario above to him. For the first time in 3 years, he said “if someone could pull that off, I can actually see that happening, but nobodies that smart.” We both laughed, and continued to drink our beers.

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Mar 1, 2026 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

What's the correlation between endowments and athletics/TV contracts?

I’ve never researched it, but I’m sure the Ivy League has by far the largest endowments.

by Cards86 on Mar 1, 2026 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

It just plays a role in member invitations.

Inevitably, the sports teams have to answer to the Presidents, and the Presidents have to answer to the sponsors ($). Just like Corporations & Banks do. And of course our Gov. (did I say that with my outside voice blogging?)

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Mar 1, 2026 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Eliminating AQ status

It’s just a sneaky way of eliminating the non-AQ schools. They can say “see, we’re all on the same playing field,” but without the provision in the BCS contract requiring inclusion of a “mid-major” if certain criteria are met, they’ll never get in.

by nerdglasses on Mar 1, 2026 7:49 AM PST reply actions  

That's what they are going to do

The 4 team playoff is going to be the SEC, PAC-12, B1G and then the talking heads will get to arugue over the BIG XII champ vs. the ACC champ. In some years it maybe the Big East champ. This is why they are pushing for only conference champs. Don’t win your conference, no chance. If your not Tx or Ok and not in the SEC, PAC-12 or BIG, not much chance. Your going to get the same result for the most part. It also weakens the arguement against the football cartel. There will be no AQ conferences and there will be a playoff.

by Bisquick_in_da_MGM on Mar 1, 2026 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh I forgot ND

If ND does not have to join a conference and somehow goes undefeated, that’s one of your 4 teams.

by Bisquick_in_da_MGM on Mar 1, 2026 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

As long as human polls are a factor and coaches can vote for their conference/teams they are always going to put Big 10, PAC 12, SEC and Big 12 in there. Although I concur that AQ status isn’t the way, it is better than the direction we are going (ie 6 conferences get to participate on a regular basis versus 4 conferences getting to participate on a regular basis).

by Jesterrace on Mar 1, 2026 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn't it funny,

no matter what they try, nothing will be fair. No matter how you slice it, mud pie, is mud pie.
There is 2 ways, that we can make this work;

1. We create 4 regions, and let each region figure out its champ (min.13 games)
or
2. The Big East/West & the MWC/USA form an alliance with any teams & conferences left. Find our own champion & if the other conference don’t include our champion in their little BcS, then we’ll declare ours the national champion as they do, with crystal ball and all. NOW WHAT SUCKAS !!!
That’s what Al Davis did with the AFL. It pays to be a rebel sometimes.

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Mar 1, 2026 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

Your still going to have the same result, for the most part. One of the major conference champs will be the national champ. They are going to take away all of the major criticisms and still have the same outcome. But look on the bright side, you get more money.

by Bisquick_in_da_MGM on Mar 1, 2026 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes & no,

“They” will have the same ridiculous outcome, and “we” will continue to criticize.
The self proclaimed major conferences, will claim that one of their members are the national champs, and the rest of America will still be scratching our heads in bewilderment.
But hey, do you know where I can pick up my check, since I get more money? (-;

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Mar 1, 2026 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

How to make mud pie.


BY

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Mar 1, 2026 3:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Are y'all going to be mad now?

I asked this question before and noone really wanted to answer. College football is going to eliminate all the things that people complain about. They are going to eliminate AQ status. They are only going to let conference champs play for N.C. They going to have a playoff with games on campus and bid out the N.C. Looks like someone read Death To The BCS. Also, I think they could do this without a human poll. Are Boise St. fans still going to be mad?

by Bisquick_in_da_MGM on Mar 2, 2026 6:40 AM PST reply actions  

As long as

they get rid of the human polls/special interest groups who routinely do this crap and big bowls aren’t allowed to select teams based on beauty contests rather than records, then we won’t be upset. In other words, as long as we get what everyone else wants then we won’t complain.

by Jesterrace on Mar 2, 2026 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what your going to get with a playoff

The bowls on the other hand. Are going to be the exhibition games. They will pick whoever will bring in the most money.

by Bisquick_in_da_MGM on Mar 2, 2026 8:47 AM PST reply actions  

Sad but true

I will agree with you on that one. Although I do agree that the definition of conference champion needs to be revisited and overall record needs to count more than just 4 extra games to fill out a schedule.

by Jesterrace on Mar 2, 2026 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  


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