"A chance for change in the BCS"
by SeniorChief on Feb 9, 2012 9:48 AM PST
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Tim Dahlberg, AP writer, penned this commentary about the possibility of an inertia change in the BCS after the 2011 season's joke of a mythical national championship. While it's mere speculation as to the outcome, at least it's being talked about. Read the story here
As one solitary insignificant college football fan, I am proud of my contribution to the poor television ratings for the 'Bama-LSU yawner rematch last month. Since the BCS is all about money, this talk of reform is probably as good as any effort to get the BCS's attention. I am also very proud of what Boise State has been able to do in kicking at the door of this sports cartel, as it became one of the premiere poster-children for the have-nots in the world of big-money CFB.
By way of a teaser, I'll excerpt a portion of Dahlberg's opening statements after the jump.
LSU fans had all but disappeared into the New Orleans night by the final minutes of last month's dreary BCS title game, leaving en masse when they figured out a team that couldn't get past the 50-yard-line wasn't going to magically find a way to cross the goal line. They weren't alone, with people across the nation abandoning their TVs in hope of finding something even remotely more interesting.
The cartel that runs the BCS got what it deserved in a rematch no one outside of Alabama wanted. A lopsided game with horrible television ratings seemed an appropriate way to cap an awful bowl season that generated less buzz than rapper M.I.A.'s extended middle finger at the Super Bowl.
How bad was it? So bad that it woke up some people who matter.
What do you think? Will the four-team concept work? Might it be a good start? Will the moneyed schools be willing give up some of their riches, or will they go kicking and screaming? Is the BCS going to be around in ten years? Where will the Broncos and their fellows fit into this discussion? Let the comments roll, Broncos, roll.
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A four team playoff offers...
Twice as many spots as a two team one, so in this regard it is great. I love the B1G’s proposal for home games for higher seeds, which they made in order to selfishly save the Rose Bowl. Am I going to be happy with four teams? Yes. Will I champion the idea of six or eight? Also yes.
I think we Boise State fans have a very different view of the “sanctity of the regular season” than those fanbases attached to more traditional powers. The regular season offers a glass ceiling and false floor for us, something that is not true of the Florida States, Notre Dames and Alabamas of the world. A four team playoff means that teams will compete, in a manner not determined beforehand like set scheduling, for the actual national championship. There is no dodging or ducking in a playoff, and dodging and ducking in the regular season only means getting exposed in the first round by someone who is actually good, or at least better.
I think a playoff can save the sanctity of the regular season, actually. The BCS formula has proven that certain scheduling strategies work better than others. The SEC is rewarded for playing cupcake non-conference games. Boise State doesn’t benefit significantly from scheduling two or three slugfest OOC games, but does get penalized without at least one, leading to pretty much one stellar matchup every year. But if you expand the playoff to eight teams, or even the dreaded sixteen that signals the end of the world, then winning in conference becomes the primary key to getting into the playoffs, allowing schools to schedule tougher, more exciting and higher revenue generating games in their out-of-conference slate without damaging their chances at the national title significantly. This is the one thing that a four team playoff does not fix that I wish was fixed.
by Spyder Mayhem on Feb 9, 2012 1:53 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I feel a great sense of satisfaction
that the team I have been pulling for these past several years had a tangible affect on these current developments. TCU and Utah also played similar roles and combined with us to make a formidable head of steam. But Boise St. was one that caused the most controversy and polarization by far. Boise St. was the catalyst that launched, expanded, and then sustained the firestorm of a topic.
That guy who trolled us a couple days ago, asking if we were still going to complain now that there was a 4 team playoff…that dude should shut his mouth, show some respect, and thank us for what we’ve done and what we’ve gone through to do it. We aren’t players, we didn’t win those games. But this war didn’t take place on the field, it was waged across uncountable comment boards on the internet. We have some ownership in this victory and cowards with no skin in the game need not be running their mouths imo.
I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010
by pjohn56 on Feb 9, 2012 4:17 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Doggone, pj, but I love your passion!
As well as your postings. You make me smile.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
by SeniorChief on Feb 9, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nicely put.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
I'm the guy that trolled you
Do you think it was an all SEC national championship game, the SEC winning the past 6 years or Boise St. that will lead to a playoff?
by Bisquick_in_da_MGM on Feb 13, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
I am personally tired of SEC fans constantly referring to the 6 straight SEC "champions" as proof that the SEC is so great.
SEC schools are only perceived to be so great because they play in the same conference as LSU, Bama, UGA, SC, and Arkansas. Those schools ARE the SEC. Those schools are great year in and year out. Florida, Tennessee, and Auburn are only great every-so-often when they get a Tebow or Newton. The bottom half of the conference is no stronger than most other schools out there. Miss State almost got beat by LaTech. Ole Miss almost got beat Fresno State last year. (Who by the way also almost beat Nebraska and got torched by Boise. So Bama gets a boost by beating Ole Miss who almost lost to Fresno State who almost beat Nebraska and got torched by Boise; but Boise doesn’t get a boost from slaughtering the team that almost beat SEC school Ole Miss and B10 school Nebraska. Yeah seems like a fair comparison to me.) Boise State also dominated SEC East champion UGA but gets no respect for that because UGA was “overrated”, yet LSU and Alabama beats pathetic Ole Miss and their strength goes up because they beat an SEC school. It doesn’t matter that they suck. Because they play in the SEC they are perceived to be greater than they are. Out of conference the SEC usually plays nobody (FCS or mid-major “cupcakes”).
Bisquick Boy's Back!
Our self-described troll is a little over-cooked, it appears.
Either that, or half-baked. (Crusty on the outside; gloopy on the inside.)
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
Ha, ha
At least y’all know that I’m joking around with you. I do the same with the Utah fans. Although, they didn’t get upset when I asked them the same question.
by Bisquick_in_da_MGM on Feb 13, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Good point,
Considering Boise St is heading towards an AQ, Utah & TCU are already in one, the SEC is a major factor in the playoff talks, and has been since the Auburn snub. Oklahoma St. was also at least a helping nudge.
If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"
Bisquick, the word is YOU
A yawl is a two-masted sailing craft.
If you’re going to mess up all your pronouns, at least be consistent, as in:
“At least y’all know that I’all am joking around with y’all. I’all do the same with the Utah fans. Although, th’all didn’t get upset when I’all asked them the same question.”
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
THE BULL****COMMITTEE
AH! SC, You make a good point as do a couple of the other posters. HOWEVER! Here I go again!!
The BSC is so crooked that that the RACKATEERING CHARGES That have been filed, plus the lawsuit by the Utah AG, should give you a hint of what is going on. The SEC has rigged the last three BSC championship games, and they are, NOW HEAR THIS! Does that make your heart yearn, SC? The SEC is worse than the MOB! Last years game between Bama and Auburn was FLAT RIGGED!! NO BODY, goes from so good in the first half to so bad in the 2nd, unless you are told to! The SEC commissioner went into the Bama lockerroom @ halftime, and told Sabin, YOU know what will happen if you WIN this game, The SEC looses $20+million dollars, Cam Newton loses the Heisman, and BOISE STATE PLAYS FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
In the 2nd half, Bama went in the tank, and all was rosy for the SEC!! This year, OREGON, the best team other than BSU, was told to lose the game to LSU, and they would get a piece of the pie!! Bama loses to LSU, on purpose, and LSU is #1 at seassons end, which guaranteed them part of the pie, THEN, what do you know, WE get a re-match in the NC game, and Bama GETS REVENGE!! rather, they get their piece of the pie from LAST YEAR!
It is all a money game, and the SEC! wins!! Then, after the hew and cry over BSU getting shafted again, the Big TEN commissioner comes out and says he is favor of change. I WONDER WHY!! The BSC has shafted Utah, TCU, and BSU all these years, and WITH BSU GOING TO THE BIG EAST, ALL three thorns or in western speak, burrs under the saddle of the BSC gone, to AQ conferences, they suddenly start taling about changing the format to just the top two teams having AQ status. THEN, they come out with the FOUR team format! Whatever they do, be assured that it will benefit the SEC, and the BIG TEN!!! RACKATEERING? YOU BET!!! I am a retired San Diego police officer and I can smell the stench from the BSC all the way from Columbus, Bama, and LSU to right here in the Treasure Valley!!! and boy does it stink!!! Trust the OLD GRIZ on this one. That is why Coach Pete made his remarks about the BSC. For him, THAT was screaming expletives!!
I have been around this game for a long time, and the BSC is the worst thing I have ever seen happen in sports! The Supper Bowl, (misspelling meant) !!! Was the Biggest $$$$$ maker for Vegas and what’s left of the MOB!! I’ll guarantee that 40 billion$$$$ changed hands on that one, because it was rigged, as sure as I am sittting at my computer!!! Open your eyes people!! But the $$$$ on the Super Bowl pales to the $$$$ on college bowl games!!! Just Sayin!!!
COACH GRIZ
by Larry Puckett on Feb 10, 2012 12:51 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Geez, coach
So you’ve gone from all caps to some (half?) caps but a lot more exclamation points. We get your drift, here.
Time is the great equalizer.
Dude, I dig it
The BCS is just a bunch of organized crime. Just like the government.
by Bleed Blue n Orange on Feb 12, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
greened.
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by reflectivity on Feb 14, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
One of the best Ideas I heard this year.
Zero rankings at the start of the season. Begin evaluating the first game and create the first polls after the 3rd game. This will eliminate all the early season cupcake scheduling. Also, as in this years Toledo/Ohio St, either Toledo will get a much higher ranking for playing Ohio St tough at home, or Ohio St just ends up not being ranked. Either way its a win win for teams that might be extremely good, but have to fight through a gantlet of mediocre teams that were unjustly ranked at the beginning of the season, just to have them make a mid season comeback after being backed by all the biased voting, thus further stagnating the polls, and creating more unjust scenarios.
Then as the season unfolds, and as the polls wind down, if there are truly 2 teams that need to square off, then so be it, but if there is questions like, well, just about every year, then use whatever brackets take care of business. Its amazing, they actually have a bracket for any amount of teams. Duh
Lets face it, with one less moron voting (Craig James) were obviously heading in the right direction. Hahaha, yea right, NOT !
If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"
by astrosmurf on Feb 12, 2012 1:41 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'd do away with the polls completely...
There are other solutions for determining playoff participants besides the same old tired system that has been the cause of D1A football fans’ dissatisfaction. The polls have always been the root cause of not determining a true national champion because they are solely based on opinion and positioning.
And that’s exactly the reason why a 4 teams playoff can’t work. Sure, it’s still a better solution than the current system, but it will still be the same old story as long as the human polls exist. Teams like the BSU’s, Utah’s and TCU’s will simply be voted lower and just outside the top 4. And even with it being slightly better, are we looking to marginally improve the system or to rectify it and fix it completely?
I don’t even have as much of a problem with the computer polls as long as they stay relegated to a secondary role in determining playoff participants. Ultimately, it comes down to who can grab a spot in the post-season based on their regular season performance and predetermined conditions. If it comes down to tie-breakers for the last spots, etc. THEN we can let the computers hash it out and determine who gets to go and who stays home for a Toilet Bowl exhibition match.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Feb 14, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Hey I take offense at that Toilet Bowl exhibition match comment!
Ya know when we beat the hell outta ASU in the Maaco Bowl we won, eh, er, uuuh, ya know, OK, I’m confused now, what did we win? lol
…………………..Boise St (not sure?)……….. Arizona St ( who cares?).One of Craig James hookers?
If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"
Great article.
The writer pretty much hit the nail on the head as well as Playoff PAC’s Matthew Sanderson.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Feb 14, 2012 12:38 PM PST reply actions
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@ Michigan State  |
Fri 08/31 | 6:00 p.m. MT |
| Miami (OH) | Sat 09/15 | 2:00 p.m. MT |
| BYU |
Thu 09/20 | TBA |
| @ New Mexico | Sat 09/29 | TBA |
| @ Southern Miss | Sat 10/06 | TBA |
| Fresno State | Sat 10/13 | 1:30 p.m. MT |
| UNLV | Sat 10/20 | 1:30 p.m. MT |
| @ Wyoming |
Sat 10/27 | 1:30 p.m. MT |
| San Diego State | Sat 11/03 | 8:30 p.m. MT |
| @ Hawaii | Sat 11/10 | 5:00 p.m. MT |
| Colorado St. | Sat 11/17 | 1:30 p.m. MT |
| @ Nevada | Sat 12/1 | TBA |
