The 2012 Boise State football team is a mystery wrapped in an enigma, according to some
This, according to SB Nation writer Bill Connelly:
Behold the power of six returning starters. The only team to return even as few as seven starters in 2011 was Auburn, and they dropped off the map, from national title contender to the Chick-fil-A Bowl. The effect of extreme numbers of returning starters, either good (20) or bad (six), is typically rather exponential, which does not say good things about the Broncos' 2012 season, even if 61st is almost certainly too low.
Connelly had the Broncos at No. 15 in his way-too-early Top 25, based on factors like Boise State's' legacy of success and Coach Pete's inexorable charm. His formula-driven Top 25, based on statistics and lies, had the Broncos at No. 61.
To his credit, Connelly believes that Boise State is far closer to a Top 25 team than a Top 60 team. He even goes so far as to compare the upcoming Bronco season to TCU's 2011 season, a comparison that is both sorta flattering and sorta mean.
Breaking in that many new starters certainly makes projections for Boise State a giant crapshoot, no matter how well you or I think we know how BSU's new starters. But for a football program that just wins no matter the circumstances or surroundings, is the trivial matter of 16 new starters really going to turn 2012 into an Angela Lansbury miniseries? The luxury of a winning system is not one that all schools can rely when they have to essentially rebuild the roster. Boise State may be a mystery next season, but there is a giant mound of forensic evidence that makes me think the Broncos will be just fine.
Your turn
Do you think Boise State is one of college football's biggest mysteries? What makes you nervous and what gives you hope about next year? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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I see at least a 10 win season.
Pete has shown he can work out 10 wins with Taylor Tharp at QB, I think the program has moved forward from that point. Although, I think we may see the Broncos lose their opener against Michigan State.
I won’t be surprised at all if they go 11-2, just please don’t drop a bowl game to ECU again.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
yup.
same thought.
My QB has an AWARD named after him. How about yours?!
Moore’s effortless dissection of the defense in...practice reminded coaches why he’s here, despite his much-maligned measurables. --Chadd Cripe
Twitter: @iwasrun
Agreed.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
Disagree!
Do I think for sure their going to win? Absolutely not. Do I take their winning seasons for granted? No way. Do I believe there is enough talent on this squad to win big games? Yes. Do I think this Football program knows how to get the players physically & mentally prepared to win? Absolutely. Will this team bring “The Hammer” their A game to Michigan St, and have every chance to win? I have no doubt..
If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"
Gee, astro, sounds like you went to the Donald Rumsfeld School of Elocution
Can you debate yourself? Yes. Am I jerking your chain? Undoubtedly.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
You're absolutely right, except it was Sara Palin's not Donald's. That's better right?
Even thiugh I was clear with myself, I’m not sure who won the debate.(-;
If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"
Well, if it was Sarah's Academy,
you’ve just got to be droppin’ the g’s off yer gerunds and present participles, like when yer a-whoopin’ and a-hollerin’ and makin’ happy watchin’ the Muscle Hamster a-runnin’ the ball fer a touchdown. But don’t be leavin’ the “h” offa her name, now.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
Now, I weren't believin she'd a been related to the Jimmy Hoffa. (-;
If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"
A winning Season for BSU
Coach Pete is one of the finest coaches in the country with a great staff. Each player they sign are for their program and even thou most of them are three stars in ratings they are five stars here on the blue. I think that Michigan State better strap in because it will be a wild ride for them when the Blue shows up to play them. I have always been a Weber fan and still am but now that I live close to BSU I have become a Blue fan and even got to go to the last game this season and even thou it was cold it was great to see the fan base up close.
Thanks, Wildcat
I remember the first time we played Weber State. I have a lot of respect for that team. They always showed up. I’ll keep my mouth shut about their new coach, though.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
You are welcome
Smith and I played during the same time a long time ago.
Welcome!
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
the thing that makes me nervous is that big teams have meteoric drop offs.
my two big examples right now would be Texas and Florida. Maybe to a lesser extent Ohio State. with Florida and Ohio State, it could be argued extenuating circumstances, but what about Texas?
gah. i’m thinking about this too much.
My QB has an AWARD named after him. How about yours?!
Moore’s effortless dissection of the defense in...practice reminded coaches why he’s here, despite his much-maligned measurables. --Chadd Cripe
Twitter: @iwasrun
way too much thinking.
I always go full retard
ಠ_ಠ
by sczmbz on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
BRONCOS 2012
YEP!!
Way too much thinking! The Broncos will be just fine!! LOSE TO MICHIGAN STATE!! Give me a break!!! IF they lose a game/games, it will be A/F!! We have to go to THEIR HOUSE! Wyoming will be better, but I don’t see the Broncos losing to them. SDSU lost Lindley, and HE and that little RB that reminds me of Faulk WERE their offense! WE are going to be fine at QB, as I have posted on other BLOGS. I have been around the game for a year or so, (since 1950) when I started playing Jr. High. Coach Smith was just getting the J C program into high gear, I can count on one hand the number of losing seasons, we have had, AT ANY LEVEL! Coach Pete doesn’t allow losing, that is why he went down to FLA and gave Nick Patti a knock on his door to convince him to come to BSU. That is why he has THE BEST RECRUITING CLASS, EVER, this year! Look at the list of recruits, and see who was trying to get them, and who they turned down, to come to BSU!! This is a great recruiting class, and we have J C transfers who can step into some of the defensive spots, and Chris Santini, THE TRUCK, will be playing safety, and he will start. Jack Fiields is a Hamster look-a-like and run a-like. Plus he is bigger! We have a 6’2" 245lb fullback, OUCH! He is going to leave somebody hurting. Nick Patti is Kellen Moore with Lamborghini wheels, and look at the receivers he has to throw to! Nah! if I were you guys, I would feel sorry for the rest of the conference…….THEY have to play us!!!
COACH GRIZ
by Larry Puckett on Feb 7, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Griz, I wouldn't be too worried about losing to Air Force in 2012
I believe I can guarantee that there will not be a loss, since we won’t be playing them.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
Which is EXACTLY why it has "Trap Game" written all over it.
We literally won’t see them coming.
"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.
I'm not worried
Although I don’t think we are going to go undefeated, I’m not worried about next season. I don’t think the number of returning starters is going to effect our team. Our 2nd and 3rd string players got so much playing time last year, it really isn’t going to be much different. In addition, we had a lot of injuries and we saw kids step up and fill in with very little drop-off in production. Our coaches know how to coach as a “team” not just the starters. With that said, I’m most concerned about the quarterback position because that is one spot that we haven’t have to worry about for 4 years and that is one position where the back-ups didn’t get as much playing time with the 1st string as the other positions. I hope, whoever is the next quarterback, he can make his own “mark” instead of trying to fill Kellen’s shoes. I’m sure that the offense will look a lot different next year, but different isn’t necessarily bad.
Amen for DJ Harper.
I think having him in the backfield will ease the new QB in by having a guy we know can carry the offense. I think also, that out of the four QB’s we’ll have in the running this year is going to live up to the task. Southwick has the edge, I think Hedrick will be stuck in the role of wildcat/read option plays, and Laughrea and Patti may prove to be every bit the prospects they were projected as. It will be fun to see this progress through spring and fall. It’s been a few years since we’ve had this go on, but I think we’re only better off now.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
My biggest worry isn't on the quarterback...
I think with all the talent around him…any one of those guys will be fine. Add in 4 returning lineman and a ton of depth at Oline…I think we’ll be fine there.
My biggest fear is depth on defense…If we have injuries at any position…we could be asking a lot out of some very young inexperienced kids…And we’ve seen what can happen when the injury bug hits…even when we had some depth.
It helps that our schedule will be pretty weak in conference play. Michigan State will be tough. BYU will be tough. @SouthernMiss could be tougher than anticipated. But we don’t have to play AFA…so @Wyoming @Hawaii and @Nevada will be our toughest oppenents in conference play. It will be interesting to see who we add for game #13. I think we could definitely go undefeated if things go our way and we stay healthy, but I could also see us going 9-5 in a doomsday scenario.
by ce'sped azul on Feb 7, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
though I think the only way we lose that many is with several injuries at the same position – DBs specifically.
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In case your interested in how he arrived at BSU being #61 in 2012...
That information is HERE. There are essentially 2 factors working against us here: lack of returning starters and recruiting rankings. As he mentions in the article and later in the comments, this is basically a starting point of something he will continue to work on over the off-season.
The only values used in this ranking model is each team’s 2011 F/+ statistical performance, number of returning starters, and 2012 recruiting ranking. I made a suggestion to him in the comments that he should consider using each team’s recruiting numbers from 2008-2011 in comparison to the its 2011 F/+ performance in order to properly weight the effect of the 2012 recruiting numbers on each team’s projected 2012 performance. My expectation is that BSU, statistically dominant in 2011, even with mediocre recruiting numbers from 2008-2011, would be affected less by their slightly-improving-yet-still-mediocre 2012 recruiting rankings than they are in the current model.
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Bill C. has already checked out the recruiting strength as predictor thing...
…And found it lacking. Recruit rankings are good at predicting changes in programs for the two years following a class, but after that potential has either become reality or no longer appears to have much impact on reality. Even if he did this, Boise State’s 2009 recruiting class would still tank them pretty hard due solely to the fact that Boise State had almost no scholarships open to recruit with.
by Spyder Mayhem on Feb 7, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
According to my analysis
Implementing bivariate modal inputs and applying a slightly skewed statistical mean, I foresee a top twenty five finish and another Maaco Bowl. Yay!
Time is the great equalizer.
at least UNLV is at Boise this year.
so it wouldn’t be two trips to vegas in one year.
that’s a plus, right?
right?!
My QB has an AWARD named after him. How about yours?!
Moore’s effortless dissection of the defense in...practice reminded coaches why he’s here, despite his much-maligned measurables. --Chadd Cripe
Twitter: @iwasrun
Depends on how big your gambling problem is...
"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.
If we have to be in a toilet bowl,
I’d pick Vegas every year. But I love gambling.
Mariners/D Broncos/BSU Broncos fan in Seattle
The first rule of Lookout Landing is...
With TCU out of the MWC, I still see us winning the conference
OOC games could be rough though…
"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.
I think there's a high likelyhood of us sharing it with AFA though...
since we don’t play them…I think Wyoming could be better than expected next year…They return a lot.
by ce'sped azul on Feb 7, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Air Force is going to drop a game or two that they have no business losing.
It seems to be their M.O.
"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.
Gavins & Taylor
If those two stay healthy, this team will dominate. I hope Ioane and Hightower can ease into safety spots, with Simmons and Brown at nickel that’s all set.
Look for a great secondary if healthy that leads to coverage sacks and the rise of Tyler Horn/Bennett/someone as a surprise sackmaster. And I think that leaves us some room to learn how to stop the run, and that will be a large part of MSU’s game plan, which sets up perfectly for the fall practices. I’m hoping Renaud can take Le’Veon Bell, if he can get off blocks.
As for the offense, I have no worries. It’s CP, it’s aaaaaaaaall good. I have over 100% confidence in the staff’s management of the development of the offensive players, and I know that our depth on offense is better than most because of the number of blowouts we’ve put on teams the last few years.
The biggest worry I have is getting a good 13th game. If we don’t get a big game, we have to go undefeated again to get any respect.
I had a dream
last night and forgot about it until now. Joe Southwick scrambled inside then ran for 35 yards leaping one tackle and evading two more and finally diving in for the touchdown!
I, like many, find it hard to imagine having a poor season. It's hard to see us going 500 or less for me.
That said, here are my concerns…
1) Wyoming will be better than many expect from them. Last year was their first year in a new system under a new coach and they did far better than anyone expected fromt hem.
2) I was getting excited about how many good linebackers we have brought in the past two years but it bothers me that I keep seeing comments from the coaching staff that we need IMMEDIATE help from this true frosh LB’er class. Does that mean the ones we got last year are horrible? I was under the impression they were doing pretty well.
3) Depth at CB scares the living daylights out of me. We haven’t brought very many corners in that have lasted in the past 2 or 3 years. That’s going to kill this program if we can’t get that solved next year.
4) I keep hearing people say they think whoever wins the starting QB job will have a smooth transition because of the experience at RB and WR returning. I would keep in mind that last season was Harper’s first MAJOR injury free year and that we had exactly two WR’s who could catch over their shoulders and one of them left. The lack of multiple WR’s who could stretch the defenses and catch over their shoulders led directly to our run game getting shut down most the season because the entire 11 man defense was playing 5 yards off the LoS. The PA deep pass was open all year long and we watched WR’s drop over the shoulder passes with non one within 10 yards of them. If that doesn’t change, we’ll be predictable yet again imo.
I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010
To answer above and add onto your good points...
1. Wyo gets love because of Brett Smith…Had a remarkable year for a true freshman. They have a lot of guys returning…and their stadium is at 7200 ft. DE’s will be huge in this game containing the scrambling quarterback from getting outside. We contained him last year, but have lost the whole Dline and have little depth at the DE position = scary. We’ll probably win by 30, but scary nonetheless.
2. I think the 4th spot is probably wide open…Behind Smith, Percy, and Renaud. Lukehart seems to be pretty light still (200lbs), but maybe the roster isn’t updated yet. All three of the LB recruits are over that…Weaver and Pint are both >220.
3. CB, DE, and S depth is scary…and now RB too.
4. If Harper stays healthy we’ll be good. Plus there’s Dan Paul back. The only reason balls were dropped last year was because the ball was spinning the wrong way. With Kellen gone, we won’t have to worry about that anymore. I think Kirby will fill the Shoe role just fine. Baby Burroughs and Bold1 deep threat will emerge. Mitch B. for Wes Welker role (minus the getting chastised by Gisele). Plus Linehan at TE. Without Kellen and Doug, I think we’ll get more creative and therefore more unpredictable.
Please tell me you're not serious with this comment:
The only reason balls were dropped last year was because the ball was spinning the wrong way. With Kellen gone, we won’t have to worry about that anymore.
Sounds like those BW scouts at the Senior Game…
"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.
Give him a break
Kellen decided to throw left handed for his senior year.
Time is the great equalizer.
6 starters
How he actually arrived at 6 returning starters is off as well. He’s obviously not considering starters that were injured all or most of last season, and he’s not considering all of the ‘co starters’. What I’m getting at is that ‘returning starters’ can be somewhat arbitrary and/or innacurate.
What Bronco CAT is going to have a Break OUT and Dance on the Blue?

Jeremy Ioane: Defense
Jack Fields: Offense
The only thing the BCS has to fear, is fear itself, and Blue is the color of fear.
by Trapperpk on Feb 7, 2012 10:57 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Auburn is a poor example for comparison...
We have Coach Pete, the staff, the ethos as a band of brothers and a legacy of success that is un-interrupted.
Auburn doesn’t have those things…
Rec'd,
A lot of back up players got playing time last year. That’s the benefit we have of playing in the MWC. Pete worked em into the big games too. I’m not taking anything for granted here, we “are” talking about football, and that ball can do some weird things sometimes. At the same time we get ridiculed about our season, it does present some welcome benefits this year. Coach Pete can tee off on Michigan St, while they have to worry about a Big Ten Schedule, that’s preceded with Notre Dame. They do have that MAC cupcake though. Who knows? It gonna be fun to watch. Just like Georgia, VT, Oregon, we won’t really know til they get after it.
If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"
Yeah, the only thing we have in common with Auburn is blue and orange
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
Bill C. is the man.
Probably the best stat nerd writer for football on earth. He took a lot of heat last year because his formula continued to rank Boise State very, very high after the loss to TCU, but he stuck to his guns.
His concerns are legitimate. There is a chance that we are, in fact, the 61st best team in the country next year. There is also a chance that the 61st best team in the country is good enough to walk through the weakened MWC. So what he is saying, basically, is that there is a chance that next year will look like 2007, in that Boise State will go 9-4 or 10-3, still have a chance to win their division and not be the dominant team that they were the year before. This is a very real possibility.
There is a possibility that this does not occur, as well. Bill’s gut tells him that Boise State will not drop that far, but Bill didn’t build that formula of his to agree with his gut. The formula shows some concerns. Bill thinks Boise State will overcome those concerns. The truth is that it can, at this moment, go either way.
I think, though, that the Las Vegas Bowl showed me something that will make the difference and push Boise State to the “better than expected” side: Coach Pete is still one of the most daring, exciting and amazing coaches in college football. There was a lot of asymmetrical play calling in that bowl game, and that play calling was like a shot across the college football fanbase’s bow. Hey, the Boise State that rose to prominence is still in existence and can still do the flashy, unconventional things that made it famous. Boise State just didn’t have to do that as much with Moore and Martin in the backfield. Next year is sort of going to be a gamble, and Coach Pete is a professional gambler. One thing that will be true, and that numbers often struggle to capture, is that Boise State will be a much more exciting and risk-taking team next year.
So Bill is right in being nervous about BSU’s season next year, and you are right for thinking that Boise State is going to be fine. The truth is probably somewhere in between, but I’d never bet against Coach Pete on anything.
by Spyder Mayhem on Feb 7, 2012 11:17 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I share your love of Bill C
but I don’t think there’s any chance we end up the 61st best team in 2012. Even he admits that this formula was very much a rough draft of what he wants to eventually do over the offseason. I expect a statistical projection that will end up in the 25-40 range, and then I expect Boise State to show, by greatly exceeding expectations, that Bill’s formula’s need a Coach Pete coefficient!
"Shiloh Keo got a MOUTHFUL of Doug Martin!" - Joe Tessitore
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uggh
formulas, not formula’s.
"Shiloh Keo got a MOUTHFUL of Doug Martin!" - Joe Tessitore
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formulae? :)
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
by boiseblues on Feb 7, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Man, I like reading your stuff...very good explanation and easy to follow the thought patterns and supporting points
I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010
Unfortunately
for us, 20 returning starters and 1 loss got us to the vegas bowl… i would have taken chik-fil-a over that anyway. I think the only bowl games we can go to will be equal or better for the most part!
Don't jump!!! Everything will be alright with the 2012 Broncos!!
As Coach Pete stated in his most recent presser, the Broncos are reloading, not rebuilding. With the exception of one position (QB, and that a very big exception), the Broncos will have just about every position filled with outstanding and experienced players. Very critical is the fact that we have both corners coming back. As for the QB situation, that is the $64,000 question. Regardless of who is the starter, he will be a dual threat, and able to make something out of nothing with his legs. Fortunately, Michigan State will also be breaking in a brand-new starter at QB, which should give us a better than average shot at winning that game. My guess is that Southwick will win the starting job, but be on a very short leash. If he’s not getting it done over the first 2-3 games, I can see Coach Pete going with Patti for the balance of the season. I think this team is going to pleasantly surprise Bronco Nation!!
The Broncos lost a passle of “starters” but what about all the others that didn’t graduate that played regularly in all sorts of different packages both on the offense and defense. They didn’t start per se but they played a ton and that is why this prediction really doesn’t look at the Broncos properly. Yes we will have a different QB but I am so excited to see what the new look is going to be. This is going to be a great season and there will be a lot of weeping wailing and gnashing of teeth by the bcs bunch once again because I believe the Broncos will probably run the table once again. And don’t give me that line about Michigan State, they lost a lot of personnel as well including Cousins. We have a bunch of studs that will take the field and will be ever bit as good as those that have left us. I will miss Chase Baker and all the rest of the D line along with Hout and Tevis but believe me, our coaches have recruited a LOT of soon to be great playmakers.
Defence
If our defence is strong and can contain, not give up a lot of points to start games our offence will be good enough to keep the game close.
Boise State is not usually in close games so this will be something they will have to deal with but we have good coaches that know how to teach these kids to not panic.
By the third or fourth game our new starters and young players will be confident enough to maintain the winning attitude.
bcshtr: Please click the link below and get back to me. Signed, NYBroncosFan
"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.
by NYBroncosFan on Feb 8, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Thankfully,
We finally made it through the Kellen age. Yes it’s great to have a quarterback who can make a third and two pass. But it will be nice to have a quarterback who can face third and two and think about an option, a draw, a rollout or a keeper that can get those two yards. We haven’t had that. Don’t weep or despair. This is a BSU team that can go beyond its limits, which were considerable. I know we weep for losing so many great players on the d-line, but the fact is they didn’t have many sacks. Please, don’t hate me. I love these guys, and I don’t even know them. They played their hearts out. I know.
But the fact is there are guys behind them who are better, faster, and hungrier than anybody who has ever been at that position. That’s just the way it is. And BSU is what they’d call a “growth property” in that you can make your mark there in ways you never could anyplace else, and these are the people we’ve attracted and that is the motivation of those who are there.
We used to pride ourselves on the “nobodies who are going nowhere” and there’s something to that. they wanted great college careers because that’s all they would ever get. I love that. But it’s now true that more than a half-dozen players might get a serious look at the NFL. That’s different, but it’s not worse.
The guys coming into the program now are awesome. i just hate to say this, because I’m such a fan. But this is a top 10 program that is now virtually guaranteeing that instead of just hoping it might be true. These aren’t motivated guys performing above their considerable potential, they’re guys who have proven their worth, have choices, and have chosen to be Broncos.
Thanks for that. Despite evening your odds (you’ve got a 14% chance at the NFL at Boise, a little less than half that at Alabama) you’ve chosen to be a part of the most incredible story in college football; JC Champions, Division II Champions (and finalists), BCS Busters, the most unlikely yet weirdly probable National Championship team in the country.
I love Moore. Wish him well. But BSU with a versatile quarterback? Forget about it. Give me a fullback to boot, and they’re undefeated.
sorry.
Meant twice that at Alabama. No question. You go to a “major” program and all your chances are better.
But it used to be that BSU was no chance. Now it’s half-chance. Not perfect, but an improvement.
2012 football season
Hi Everyone,
Boise has been successful because of good talent that becomes outstanding through excellent coaching, and the belief that you can win. You can. Attitude is everything. It results in out working and out thinking the opposition, and never quitting. It’s a day to day grind, and game day behaviour. This has been exhibited over the years by earlier Boise teams. These attributes are the responsibility of each player and coach on the team. Emulate the past and you will succeed in the future. From down under in New Zealand, I believe in you.
Regards, Bill (ex-Pittsburg, Kansas)
by BillHNZ on Feb 7, 2012 10:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Ooh. I like your NZ spelling of behaviour
Thanks, Bill, and let’s hear the down under perspective from time to time.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
6 Starters? More like 10 or 11.
First off we still play in the MWC and our non-conference games against BYU and USM are both wins. Noone in the MWC will touch the Broncos and we don’t play Air Force. I will be shocked at anything but 12-0 or 11-1. The only game BSU won’t be a double digit favorite is Michigan State. As far this 6 starter myth. I have seen it multiple times. Sure the defensive line and linebackers are big losses but Gavins and Taylor will be the best corner tandem this side of the SEC, Lee Hightower started and will step in at Safety. On offense the way we rotate WRs I don’t see an issue there so you can basically count 2-3 starters there. SUre we lost Potter on the OL but you could make a case that we essentially return 5 started on the o-line with the amount of playing time they got especially with Cory getting his 6th year. Then there is the backfield. DJ Harper is not much of a drop off from Doug Martin (Ask TCU and Va Tech about his abilities) and let’s not forget about Dan Paul returning. BSU is no longer the cute little offense on the blue field. They are a legit perennial top 15-25 team.
Can Boise Win in 2012?
Looking at the schedule and the returning players and the new recruits, if Coach Pete can get them playing as a team, the odds will be even (IMHO) against Mich State. If the Broncos can beat the Spartans, I see them going undefeated in regular season.
Hopefully, they will be the Non AQ who is rate within the top ten (or at least top 14) for a BCS Bowl.
The 2012 team will be much more explosive and even on offense. The defense will be just as talented, but much hungrier. The 2011 team was spoiled by Kellen Moore. The Offensive line couldn’t block for the run if their life depended on it. Receiver blocking for running outside was non-existent. Both the defensive line and the D Coach were complacent and it killed us in the Frog game.
The 2012 team and coaches have a lot to prove. I’m looking forward to it. Just hope the polls don’t screw them over —again.

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