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Pre-combine scouting reports on Kellen Moore, Doug Martin, and the rest of Boise State's invitees

The NFL Scouting Combine begins tomorrow and continues for the next week, and seven - count 'em, seven! - Boise State players will be in attendance. Better get yourself the NFL Network to follow along.

Doug Martin has a chance to become the No. 2 running back in the draft, Shea McClellin could cement his status as a top-flight 3-4 outside linebacker, and Kellen Moore will continue to get scrutinized ad nauseum only this time in his boxer-briefs.

For a preview of what's to come and what's to overcome for the Boise State Seven, continue reading after the jump.

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Note: All scouting reports and projections are courtesy of CBS Sports.

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Kellen Moore's current draft projection is as the 12th-best quarterback and in the 200s of top prospects overall. Ha! What do experts know? Here is some of what those experts are saying:

Highly intelligent and has been extremely productive, making very few mental mistakes. Very smart and plays like an offensive coordinator on the field.

Lack of height, measureables and overall size are huge red flags. Looks diminutive in the huddle. Lacks the arm strength to drive the ball downfield to keep defenses honest; throws too many rainbows/soft-tosses and lacks the cannon to zip the ball all over the field and threaten secondaries deep. Only an average athlete and has limited mobility; doesn?t have the legs to consistently evade pressure. Funky mechanics, making too many passes off his back foot with his momentum going backwards; has several habits that work for him.

NFL Comparison: Chase Daniel, New Orleans Saints

Goals at the NFL Combine: Throw an out route that will make scouts' knees weak, run faster than Rich Eisen in the 40-yard dash, heel implants (for height, not cosmetics), talk to any coach or scout for even two minutes and they will realize how wonderful he is.

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Doug Martin is currently the No. 4 running back in the draft and a Top 50 prospect overall. Scouts like him. Scouts like these:

Bowling-ball runner between the tackles. Flashes a burst into and out of the hole. Good acceleration and straight-line speed to break off long runs. Low center of gravity, strong lean, and powerful legs let him bull through arm and shoulder tackles. Rarely goes out of bounds (unless time requires), cuts inside tacklers to get extra yardage.

Goals at the NFL Combine: Pretty much be himself, run fast, run hard, don't make any apologies for making other NFL prospects look like hot garbage.

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Shea McClellin is listed by CBS as an outside linebacker where is the No. 9 OLB and No. 64 prospect overall. Not bad for a kid from Caldwell. Here is more about what the scouts think:

Plays fast with very good football quickness and agile footwork. A high effort and energy rusher who plays with obvious passion and intensity. Country strong and very physical, welcoming contact. Fights and works hard to find a way to beat blockers. Not an elite athlete. Has only average functional size and strength, lacking the natural power and length to overwhelm blockers at the next level.

Goals at the NFL Combine: Be better than all the other outside linebackers, show a desire to pick up new techniques and drills quickly, name-drop Korey Hall a whole lot.

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Billy Winn is the No. 8 defensive end on the CBS board and the No. 66 prospect overall. Scouts like his "violent" body parts:

Rarely the first player off the snap, even when lined up over the ball, but his length, effort and short-area quickness still pressures double teams or penetrate gaps. Quarterbacks and ballcarriers feel his strength when he plants them in the backfield. Uses violent hands to rip off or punch off blocks, though he could be more consistent against better linemen. Forces offensive lineman to hold, often penalties are not called. Gets most sacks with effort, not an elite first step.

Goals at the NFL Combine: Score well in whatever that drill is that measures quickness (the three-cone? the four-cone? the sno-cone?), interview well with scouts and coaches to alleviate concerns about effort, break a blocking dummy in two with his hands.

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George Iloka is CBS's favorite free safety prospect, which could mean big things if NFL teams suddenly want themselves a safety. He is a Top 70 prospect overall. No one bothered writing a scouting report on him, though, so I'm not sure what that's about.

Goals at the NFL Combine: Catch all the balls that come his way in drills, show flexibility since he's a tall dude playing a short dude's position.

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Nate Potter has fallen to the No. 13 tackle prospect and No. 143 overall, this after being on Kiper's Big Board not too long ago. No worries. Nothing a sensational scouting combine performance can't fix.

Tall, reliable, though relatively slight and technically raw, pass protector. Knee bend is lacking and plays with a narrow base. Stops his feet after initial contact too often. Stronger ends get their hands into his chest to push him backwards when he's too slow to punch, though he typically anchors after a couple of steps and pushes back. Excellent agility for his size, capable of acting as a personal pass protector or getting out in front of wide runs to his side. Intelligent player

Goals at the NFL Combine: Score well in the agility drills, ace the Wunderlic, hope there's some sort of academic bowl for big uglies.

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Tyrone Crawford is the No. 11 defensive end and in the Top 115 of overall prospects. He's Canadian, which scouts don't seem to hold against him:

Looks the part with a strong, defined frame and good length. High effort rusher and works through the whistle. Relentless worker, fighting off blocks and battling to the ballcarrier. Has strong hands and holds his own at the point of attack. Not a quick-twitch player who will consistently threaten the edge. Has limited explosive qualities and lacks great initial burst or overall range for the position

Goals at the NFL Combine: Show some quick burst in drills, obliterate the guy holding the blocking dummies, discover a decades' worth of football footage on himself from his youth, hope there's an eight-pin bowling tournament.

Your turn

Do you agree with the scouts' perceptions of the Boise State players? Who do you think has the most to gain at the Combien? Who will perform best? Share your thoughts in the comments.

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After all the drooling at the Senior Bowl, I would be very suprised if Doug isn't 2nd or 3rd rb taken.

I think Shea will do better than expected. GI will have an immediate impact in the league.

by Rand McNalley on Feb 21, 2012 8:19 AM PST reply actions  

Shea is "country strong"?

What does that even mean? He’s strong when it comes to throwing hay bales?

by Drew Roberts on Feb 21, 2012 8:44 AM PST reply actions  

I love it... I am sure Shea has thrown a few hay bales in his day.

We always use the term “country strong” for a friend of ours that has strength beyond any work he might have done in the weight room. I am sure Shea put his time in the weight room, so maybe they are referring to him being stronger than his physique would lead you to believe.

Doug Martin is chiseled and one would not be surprised when he breaks records in the bench press. McClellin’s strength sneaks up on you, despite his size.

"It's not whether the glass is half empty or full, it's who is pouring the water" - Mark Cuban

by MKingery on Feb 21, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

The bench competition

I’m curious as who has the better bench between RBs Martin and Richardson. Martin benches over 400; but Richardson has done 475 and thinks he can do over 500; but the Alabama coaches never let him try. Those guys are Country Strong- which means they can lift a small country; which is a huge advantage at the next level when you hit the hole and find Albania in your way.

Our quarterback goes to 11 !

by flyfishferg on Feb 21, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It will be interesting to see for sure...

Maximums don’t always equal maximum # of reps. I think both will break the recent RB record of 32 reps…Martin did 28 last year…

by ce'sped azul on Feb 21, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Ugh, Meant to rec your comment and accidentally flagged it.

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by JRig on Feb 21, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Does it mean this?


’Cause Shea just got a lot hotter!

"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.

by NYBroncosFan on Feb 21, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Typically it means strength developed from work rather than working out.

Strength that was built doing hard labor is more functional and powerful than strength developed in a gym. All Pro and future Hall of Fame RB Edgerrin James once credited his tremendous balance and ability to run through tackles to throwing watermelons into his Uncle’s truck every summer as a kid.

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by pjohn56 on Feb 21, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

So like Zabransky's arm strength...

From throwing potatoes in Oregon…He could throw one over 80 yards…

by ce'sped azul on Feb 21, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure

As long as the defensive back was wide open.

Time is the great equalizer.

by kcam on Feb 21, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Shea moves neighbor's tractors...

…after they run out of gas, but doesn’t unhook the trailer.

Shea doesn’t do push ups – he pushes the earth down

Shea isn’t invited to Scotland…they don’t want all the hay bale, telephone pole or big rock throwing records broken.

Shea can carry a cow…in each arm.

Shea thinks gravity is overrated.

by HSridge on Feb 21, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

FYI

NFL.Com is going to do alive stream so you don’t have to spring for the network. The host is said to be Matt "Money " Smith co host of the Petrous and Money Show. BTW the guys at his home station KLAC Am 570 in So CAL have been ridding him about his BSU cap.

by skipit on Feb 21, 2012 9:24 AM PST reply actions  

Could someone explain this to me?
Looks diminutive in the huddle.

Is looking small in a circle of players between snaps different than just being smaller? I don’t know if anyone’s heard, but apparently Kellen is considered “short”. Apparently that’s true during huddles too now, and it means…something.

"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.

by NYBroncosFan on Feb 21, 2012 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

This is how I read it...

Diminutive:
adjective
1. unusually or comparatively large in size, dimensions, and/or accomplishments.

by ce'sped azul on Feb 21, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Touche

I smell a book of Kellen Moore jokes waiting to be published. Better get on that gravy train before the rest of the football universe does. All hail, Kellen Moore, Master of the Universe!

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude

"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen

by BroncoInDuckLand on Feb 21, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, you are on a ROLL today!

But remind me to never get on your bad side.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Feb 21, 2012 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

So I know Kellen Moore doesn't always drink beer...

…but when he does, what is it he drinks? Pray tell, HSRidge.

"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.

by NYBroncosFan on Feb 21, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I would've gone with "Dos Unos"

Or does that simplify him to being only a number?

"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.

by NYBroncosFan on Feb 22, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

The Slow, Awkward, Diminutive, Short, and Weak Armed QB. Did I miss something?
Has Fifty Wins; A Ton of Touchdowns; Only Lost 3 games in his college career; and can out think a coach at a coaching workshop, because he is giving the workshop. Kellen Knows how to airbrush the playing field with passes that fit in a millisecond window while defenders look like that have their padding around their ankles.

Nah, I don’t want him, because I don’t want to win, and I need someone 6’5", because all the teams are wearing tight winter boots up to its knees and it fashionable to have hair on the face during interviews. It sells tickets.

We are looking for a Moore Neanderthal type of QB

The only thing the BCS has to fear, is fear itself, and Blue is the color of fear.

by Trapperpk on Feb 21, 2012 11:17 AM PST reply actions  

and he is not country strong...

because he showers.

"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief

by boiseblues on Feb 21, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Thoughts

Glad to see that Martin has gotten some well-deserved attention, such a beast! Martin for ROY! Shea will do well for whoever picks him up and I’d be afraid of Wynn getting violent on whomever wrote that scouting report, true or not. Moore will be better than most give him credit for and I really want to laugh in their faces when he does. Iloka continuing on the trend of getting great secondary players from BSU into the NFL. The drop in Potter’s stock is very peculiar, since if he had gone pro in 2011, he was almost certain to be picked in the first or second, now he’s sliding back to possibly being a day 3 pick. I’ll admit his 2011 season was underwhelming, a dip from what I expected, not unlike Billy Wynn. But I think both have raw talent that can be refined in the NFL into solid starters. Can’t wait to see them all perform the next 7 days!

Down the middle, James...the lateral...to the corner of the endzone! Can you believe that!?!

by scoleman on Feb 21, 2012 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

Kevan, hide behind some hay bales quick!!!

Because the entire town of Marsing is headed your way…“Not bad for a kid from Caldwell.” Ruh roh.

Can’t recall seeing a comment like “rarely goes out of bounds” about a running back, but that has to be huge for Dougie. Its all part of his double extra effort “you are going to pay for this tackle” atitude. Cool.

by HSridge on Feb 21, 2012 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

"Can’t recall seeing a comment like "rarely goes out of bounds" about a running back"

cf. Barber, Lashawn, Bears, Chicago v. Broncos, Denver, circa Dec. 2011

Time is the great equalizer.

by kcam on Feb 21, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

In my smartaleckiness, I may not have the right RB

Anyhoo, it was a Chicago RB that stepped out of bounds to essentially lose the game. Tebow fans rapturous!

Time is the great equalizer.

by kcam on Feb 21, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree...

Rarely goes out of bounds isn’t something that’s been used to describe a running back since the good ole days of football. But it’s true, it’s rarely ever seen in today’s game. Extra effort. Hard work pays dividends.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude

"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen

by BroncoInDuckLand on Feb 21, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

The entire town of Marsing?

So that’s like, 10 people?

"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.

by NYBroncosFan on Feb 21, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

When it all comes down to it, all this combine stuff is for pre-evaluation purposes.

Whether you go in the first round, or walk on, only decides your starting pay. Eventually, and inevitably, all players will either make it big, barely make it, or fade into obscurity. Kellen has a chance to do the first 2, but obscurity is not possible for him, because he is arguably the most knowledgeable football player to come out of college in a while. So whether we see him on the field, or eventually on the sidelines, he will find success somewhere in football.

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Feb 21, 2012 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Chuck Norris and Kellen Moore have a lot in common

I mean think about it…Mr. Norris isn’t the most physically imposing guy (initially) that you’ve ever seen

by BoyCeeState on Feb 21, 2012 2:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Poor BoyCee State...I imagine his/her last few seconds on earth were spent typing this post.

Chuck would have sensed that this comment about his body not being imposing would be posted and will have already round housed BoyCee’s face off. Also, bow flex has something to say about the comment as well. RIP…..

by 4EverBleedBlue on Feb 21, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

almost

Kellen Moore lives on my street, that’s a place Chuck doesn’t even dare to wander.

by BoyCeeState on Feb 22, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Doug and Tyrone are both going to stand out immensely at the combine

I expect they will pass up supposedly better draftees in their positions.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Feb 21, 2012 3:11 PM PST reply actions  

lol and rec'd :)

"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief

by boiseblues on Feb 21, 2012 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

they compared Kellen to the wrong Saint…

"Hopefully we weren’t winning all these games at home because people couldn’t see our receivers. Somehow I found them." ~ Kellen Moore

by AvedYahweh on Feb 21, 2012 9:17 PM PST reply actions  

And I thought these were only visible to us. Somebody give this guy a striped shirt & a whistle.
Forces offensive lineman to hold, often penalties are not called.

Is this a stat they keep now? Are they scouting Billy or the MWC officials?

UGA fans are eligible twice: once for the uniforms, and twice for the involuntary surgery at the hands of Dr. Kellen Moore.

by SWATTeamMentality on Feb 21, 2012 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

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