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MIAMI GARDENS, FL - JANUARY 04:  Head coach Dana Holgorsen of the West Virginia Mountaineers celebrates after they won 70-33 against the Clemson Tigers during the Discover Orange Bowl at Sun Life Stadium on January 4, 2012 in Miami Gardens, Florida.  (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)

West Virginia, Big East agree to $20 million buyout

Everyone has a price and West Virginia found the Big East's. After a long wait and much posturing the two sides agreed to West Virginia leaving and joining the Big 12 this year. The $20 million is nice, but that leaves a hole in the Big East's schedule. We know what Kustra has recently said about playing in the Big East next year, but last night Brian Murphy reported that the WAC is prepared to accommodate Boise State's non-football sports next year. Now is the time to find out what Boise State and Kustra's price is.

Bill Connelly looks at how returning starters affect a team's momentum

Boise State is an interesting case to predict how they'll do next year considering how successful the team has been over the last decade or so with only mild declines. However, history isn't on Boise State's side for how they should fare next year, but that's no surprise. I do like Bill's comparison of 2012 Boise State to 2011 TCU. I could see them struggling out of the gate but finding themselves midseason. Of course, that's my worst case scenario instead of other people's best case.

NCAA proposes change to kickoffs among other rules

The proposal is to move the kickoff line from the 30 to the 35 yard line and decrease the running distance to kick to 5 yards to prevent kicking it further. The touch back line would be moved to the 25 yard line. I understand trying to make kick offs safer but I also like that they have tried to limit touch backs by limiting the running start kickers get and making touch backs more costly. What do you guys think?

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amazing what dollar bills can do to persuade action.

if they use WVU’s exit settlement to assuage the pain that BSU is about to suffer financially, then i’m all for it. but on the radio someone had a great point: why do we want to be the enabler to the whole thing? is that something that we want to carry around with us? is that the reputation going forward that we want to have? my guess is yes. at least if i get cable next football season, i won’t have to try and get whatever package the mountain, etc., is on (if it is a special package).

as far as momentum, i do agree. our worst case scenario will be tcu 2011. i know Coach Pete will have the team prepared for MSU, but the playbook will be massively limited and most likely having to change to suit whichever QB gets the starting spot. if we stay in the MWC, i’d say 11-1 or 10-2 regular season at the worst. if we go to the Big East who knows. but we’d lose the 13th game so we wouldn’t have to worry about that. i guess.

My QB has an AWARD named after him. How about yours?!

Moore’s effortless dissection of the defense in...practice reminded coaches why he’s here, despite his much-maligned measurables. --Chadd Cripe

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by Grindhouse on Feb 10, 2012 7:04 AM PST reply actions  

This is no time for Kustra to stand on principle...

We owe the MWC nothing (except the exit fee). Boise State’s 2012 schedule would get an immediate bump as would ticket sales and Boise State has a chance for an auto-bid next year instead of waiting till 2013 and a diminished Big East. Pull the trigger, Bob—or someone else will.

by Drew Roberts on Feb 10, 2012 8:09 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

I agree, Drew. While principled folk are to be admired generally, regardless of their persuasion, there are times when pragmatism is really the only option. If opportunity is knocking, we need to be sure the hinges on that door are well-oiled.

I believe (well, fervently hope, anyway) that Dr. Kustra is enough of a financial administrator to seize the day. He’s an intelligent man, so I’ve got to believe he’s on top of the myriad considerations for such a momentous move.

Sentiment among the faithful seems to lean towards jumping this year, as this site and Murphy are advocating, but perhaps it wouldn’t hurt for some of us alums/supporters to shoot a quick email to Dr. Kustra. I intend to do so today:

bobkustra@boisestate.edu

As you said, Drew, if we don’t, someone else will. This iron is red hot.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Feb 10, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

i was thinking the exact same thing about owing the MWC.

they snubbed bsu for so long and for what? a “consortium” with the C-USA?! wtf.

My QB has an AWARD named after him. How about yours?!

Moore’s effortless dissection of the defense in...practice reminded coaches why he’s here, despite his much-maligned measurables. --Chadd Cripe

Twitter: @iwasrun

by Grindhouse on Feb 10, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I have heard from

Mountainwestconnection that the old bag CT could be taking the Ad job up in Minnesota. That should of happen a few years ago. I hope we do move soon. But I don’t want it to blow up in our face.

"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- WG#99

by BustersBroncosBustsBCS on Feb 10, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

It was posted yesterday over in the OBNUG fanshots column (look to the right)

http://www.obnug.com/2012/2/9/2787561/craig-thompson-minnesota-ad

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Feb 10, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Right on here Drew

"Every Damn Day."- Coach Pete
"Coach Pete is always right" Marty Tadman

by Broncograd96 on Feb 10, 2012 7:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

new kickoff rules

Nick: Didn’t you mean to say “less costly” instead of “more costly”, in regards to your take on touchbacks, since the new rule moves the TB line 5 yards further downfield? Just checkin’!!

by typhoonblue on Feb 10, 2012 11:08 AM PST reply actions  

I think he meant more costly for the kicking team...

…it makes kicking more about skill and less about pure power, kind of like good punters. I don’t like it though, if for no other reason than touchbacks are always brought out to the 20. I believe in making changes to progress the game, but some fundamentals you don’t mess with.

"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.

by NYBroncosFan on Feb 10, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you

Move them back five yards, there is no reason to take one of the three dimensions of football out of the game. The ball goes on the 20, not the 25, who cares where you kick it from. Thats like saying we should make the field a little more narrow, or go to 105 yards instead of 100…

by AdaminFL on Feb 10, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks, NYBroncosFan!

I agree with you and AdaminFL; some things just shouldn’t be changed.

by typhoonblue on Feb 10, 2012 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

New kick-off rules.

I asked this same question when the NFL did it. The ball is almost always assured to wind up the endzone so why even bother having the kickoff? Just put the ball on the freaking 20/25 and not waste the time of lining up just to watch the ball play superman into the endzone.

by B.D.Bronco on Feb 10, 2012 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

Wait just a freaking second!

They want to move the kick-off from the 30 to the 35 so that it results in a touchback and can’t be returned, which is when the injuries occur. But then they want to shorten the running start of the kicker so that the ball won’t travel as far, which means that it won’t result in a touchback, and as a result can then be returned and players can be injured. I don’t freaking understand.

by B.D.Bronco on Feb 10, 2012 2:08 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Yeah that makes no sense.

That’s exactly what I was thinking when reading it. Maybe we’re reading it wrong, but I doubt it.

Furthermore, how many injuries occur during kickoff as opposed to the rest of the game? Yeah, sure, injuries occur at any time but unless it’s wildly disproportionate, it makes no sense to implement a whole new set of rules for it… especially when the rule contradicts its own purpose to begin with.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude

"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen

by BroncoInDuckLand on Feb 10, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

There are definitely more and worse injuries that occur during kickoffs

That’s why the kickoff rule changed in the NFL this year…kickoffs are one of the few plays where everyone gets a good, long running start. Much less protection from the really big hits…

"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.

by NYBroncosFan on Feb 10, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The rules

should allow them to play the freakin’ game. I understand the safety aspect. The fact is, they play a violent game. Injuries are a part of it.

I’m not particularly upset about the rules except the new helmet rule. Why would they have to go on the sidelines if they lose their helmet? If they’re not injured, it’s not an injury. And if they lose their helmet, they should have until the ball is snapped again before they have to get it on and snapped up. But to say they HAVE to go to the sidelines for the next play is overkill.

And if you lose your helmet, you can’t participate in the play? I understand the safety aspect but losing your helmet is never an intentional thing and it doesn’t give anybody an advantage by doing so. So if a running back loses his helmet while breaking a tackle and has an open field to the end zone, they’re just going to blow the play dead? Or if there’s one guy between the ball carrier and the endzone and he happens to have lost his helmet he needs to just step aside and let them score? That doesn’t sit well with me. There are so many possible scenarios that can arise from this rule that would be unfair… QB gets his helmet taken off during a play (unintentionally) and he has to sit out when it’s 4th and goal with :04 left and down by 4? There’s a lot of potential to abuse this rule to a team’s advantage. I’m not liking it at all…

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude

"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen

by BroncoInDuckLand on Feb 10, 2012 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

Since it seems that I've seen more helmets come flying off recently,

if this rule is adopted, I can see an upsurge in duct tape sales. Every trainer in the nation would have rolls of it. I think it even comes in blue now.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Feb 10, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I say make the move now.

I do not get the kick off rules. But that is nothing new with the NCAA. A lot I don’t get with them

"Every Damn Day."- Coach Pete
"Coach Pete is always right" Marty Tadman

by Broncograd96 on Feb 10, 2012 7:37 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

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