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A slightly heated debate this last weekend (which I didn't participate in) got into discussing or not discussing the state of other sports at Boise State, and I'll admit that I spend too much time following the football team and not enough on the rest of Boise State University and it's athletic teams. So here's a rundown of what you may have missed since football began in August.

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Women's Volleyball (16-14) Lost first round of MWC Tournament...Breann Nesselhuf was the only Bronco named All-MWC.

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Cross Country (Mens - 14th, Women's - 12th) in the NCAA West Regional Championships. This was out of about 35 teams from the WCC, Pac-10, WAC, etc. The best runners for us were MWC freshman of the year Vince hamilton 30:37 - 10k (4:56 min/mile pace). Women were led by freshman Marisa VanderMalle with a 21:10 - 6k (5:41 min/mi pace)

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Women's Swimming and Diving (6-1?) Not sure what constitutes a win and loss when there are more than two teams, but the Bronco women seem to be doing really well. The season goes from October to March, so it's kind of like the opposite of baseball season...

Since it is a relatively new program, and they keep getting better, It seems like the school records are being broken every meet.

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Women's Gymnastics (2-1) The season just started and the women are 2-1 with wins over Washington and Sac State, and a loss to Utah State and Southern Utah. Before the loss in the triangular, we were ranked 13th in the country. (There must've been a Russian judge there)

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Men's Wrestling (3-8 in duals) The wrestling team is in what looks to be a rebuilding year, and that to playing the wrestling equivalent of an SEC schedule, and you have a 3-8 record. So far the losses include Pac-12 foe and #17 Oregon State (lost twice), #7 Nebraska, #23 Stanford and #1 Oklahoma State. Our most recent loss was to Pac-12 leader Oregon State and was a 16-18 loss. We should be able to get a podium spot in the Pac-12 championships in late February, and have the ability to challenge for the top spot.

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Women's Basketball (12-9) (2-4) The women's basketball team was projected to finish last alongside the men in the MWC this year. They currently sit at 6th. Senior guard Katie Isham and junior forward Lauren Lenhardt lead the way with 15.4 and 14.7 ppg respectively. Both of them are en fuego from 3pt land (38 and 43%) and both shoot 81% from the free throw line.

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Men's Basketball (10-10) (0-5) The first first year in the MWC has proven to be a challenge for the young Broncos team. Attendance has been up and down. The year started with lots of hope and an infusion of some Australian talent helped bring the hype to the court. But after 5 straight MWC losses, the excitement is fading. The great thing about basketball though, is that the regular season doesn't matter (or is that the worst thing?) If we win four in a row in the MWC tourney, we are going to the dance. And this team took the number one team in our conference, #11 UNLV to overtime. We have the talent to do it. If the team gets some shots to fall, and the fans stay behind them, anything could happen.

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Poll
Do you care about other sports?
Get off obnug...this is about Bronco Football!!!
10 votes
Love the men's bball team...Drmic leads them to the Dance!
16 votes
Wrestling...voting because I'm scared of them!
13 votes
Volleyball... see picture above...enough said!
16 votes
When are we getting a baseball team?
15 votes
Me encanta el fĂștbol! Vas Broncos!
8 votes

78 votes | Poll has closed

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I voted wrestling but really I don't mind hearing about any of them.

What I do mind is someone acting like a spoiled brat, interrupting the commentary that was opened up specifically for a live event in a specific sport, deriding everyone there for not being at the basketball game regardless of what they do or do not enjoy, and then labeling us all lousy fans because we prefer to root on former Broncos from the most prolific class in school history playing live in the specific sport the thread was made for rather than attend a game that particular group of people was far less enthusiastic about at best.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Jan 30, 2012 6:27 PM PST reply actions  

I agree that was the wrong forum...but understand the frustration on both sides...

That’s probably why I didn’t comment. It’s no secret that football is way more appreciated than the other sports. BSU’s football stadium, while relatively small, still has more seats than every NBA arena, and by far. It is interesting to see how different fans support different teams from the school. And it is really hard to make comparisons of fan bases between schools from completely different geographies and backgrounds. People say Boise doesn’t compare to the fan bases of other schools from similar locales, like Nebraska and Tennessee for example. Both have extremely large stadiums 80-100k people and cities similar in size to Boise. They say Boise doesn’t compare because we only get 34k or so to football games. But how many people live within driving distance (4 hours or so of Boise)? Both of the others are within driving distance from major metropolitan areas and have 100+ years of fans in those areas…We don’t have that and are a much different fan base with very few fans of more than 10 years.

Personally I’m an alum and wish for great things from the university as a whole, but I understand there are people who just like the “Moneyball” approach or the trick plays or the blue collar attitude or whatever. Every fan has there own reasons for being a fan. I’m just glad for all the publicity the university has gotten. I think we are to the point to where a degree from BSU is worth more than one from any other university in the state nationwide…because people have heard of it, not necessarily because we have the best academics…which we’re approaching in the undergraduate realm. When I decided to attend in 2004, it had more to do with the beautiful women and weather in the treasure valley than the football team (who had at that time just cracked the top 25 a couple of times).

I think nofreindzz has been a pretty level headed guy and we all get a bit cranky and defensive at times. After his first post he got more than a few responses expressing disinterest in the basketball team. Go to a BSU basketball game with 4k people and you’d be upset too, trust me.

It is unfortunate that our arena is so large (over 12k). Compare that to Gonzaga (a top 25 team in a similar sized city with roughly the same amount of students living on campus (around 2k)) who sells out a 6000 seat arena every night. During my time at BSU the TBA seemed empty at 3-4k people…and that is unfortunate. If more people went it would be way better and everyone would have a good time, but nobody wants to go because it’s always empty…a catch-22.

The reason for basketball attendance has quite a few elements imho, and with smart coaching and the new AD can be turned around. These include winning (young team should get really good in a couple years…if not next), recruit likeable players (this already happens in football, but is more important in basketball…we need to recruit OKG’s and local Idahoans). We just signed one of the best players out of the state of Idaho next year, which will bring in people. I honestly don’t think our football stadium would sell out if we didn’t have the guys from Idaho…people relate to them and want them to succeed. Also, get rid of the lame timeout games where they bring people out onto the court to do stupid stuff. Lastly, we need to schedule regional based teams (nobody cares about Indiana State and Drake etc.)

When Boise was getting 8-10k people to basketball games in the nineties we were:
1.Winning
2.Best player was a local Boisean
3. Wasn’t around then but don’t think the timeout entertainment could’ve been as lame as it was when I was there.
4. We were playing regional teams from the Big Sky Conference and also played Gonzaga, WSU, and other regional teams that were interesting to fans from the Northwest…not Drake, Indiana State, Northern Illinois, etc.

/end rant

by ce'sped azul on Jan 30, 2012 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm gonna go out on a limb here

I have a degree and a minor degree from Boise State, and they’re both in the area of entertainment. That’s right. Entertainment.

I labored for years as a student performing artist, juggling studies with the necessity of practicing, practicing, practicing my arts (theatre and music). Tell me that there’s a difference between what I did and what Boise State football players do. Well, there is a difference, and that is that we theatre students didn’t have the resources available to us to assist us through the academic aspects of our university education while putting in a grueling rehearsal and performance schedule, as do the athletes. That’s about it.

Please, don’t think for a moment that any of our student athletes aren’t involved in the same “business” in which I participated. Entertainment. That’s what it is, folks. To decry the public’s or the students’ attendance at athletic events (entertainment) as inadequate without addressing all the other “entertainment” opportunities in our community is, I believe, a canard.

Only 4,000 showing up for a basketball game? Do you know what an audience of 4,000 would have meant to me and my fellows when we presented Shakespeare at Boise State? Is the Bard any less valuable than roundball? But we never cried about it. We took our standing "O"s from the relatively few who ventured out (although in sold-out houses), and considered our run a success.

I’m not here to argue that athletics, or theatre, or music, or dance do not have merit beyond performance and “entertainment.” They are exhausting disciplines for those driven to pursue them. Of course there are values intrinsic to them all, values and lessons that stick with you throughout your life. We performers/athletes hope that our audiences might take something away from our efforts to add to their life experiences and, hopefully, their wisdom. But, let’s be realistic. Other than the participants, most “fans” are in it for the entertainment value. We love our boys and girls and want them to succeed, and we watch them occasionally through their post-university years, but the spectacle and the competition is really why we fans turn out on a Saturday afternoon. That’s entertainment. It’s part of what makes being a human enjoyable. Nothing wrong with being entertained.

Rather than complain about who should or should not support this or that program, rather than carp about any individual or collective use of precious personal time for activities outside work and home, it is my firm belief that the merits of any form of entertainment should be the only determining factor in our response. If you build a good show, you will see the public react positively. I’ve been doing this as an amateur and semi-professional for well over five decades now, and it has been proven to me over and over again. If you don’t have a good show, well, “you pack up your makeup and go.” That, too, is an aspect of being an entertainer.

Please, if anyone disagrees with my premise (and it’s certainly not gospel), don’t expect a redux of our weekend agony. I’ll do my best to not respond.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Jan 30, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Senior, its funny you bring up entertainers. Neil Diamond (entertainer) holds the attendence record at TBA. ha

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If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Jan 31, 2012 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you know?...

Boise State’s Talkin’ Broncos – the speech and debate team, had won the pi kappa delta national title last year and have finished 1st or 2nd nationally in the last 4 national forensics tournaments…
Just saying…this university has a lot of success in a lot of areas, and I’m proud to be an alum and a fan.

by ce'sped azul on Jan 31, 2012 7:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes. One of those national champs is the daughter of a good friend. I watched her grow up.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Feb 1, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I too can understand the frustration.

I think that’s something Ihave was consistently missing from what I was trying to say, and I’ll take the blame for bad comm on that one. I don’t just care about the football team. I like hearing about Bronco success in any sport because they all face the same set of challenges. This is a new school that has obliterated the normal pacing for development, it’s why I use the phrase New U Rising (which is an actual slogan created by Boise St.) in my videos sometimes.

So I’m not saying he didn’t have a valid complaint. The entire problem was that he interrupted camaraderie during a once in a lifetime event to point fingers at a group of people that have nothing to do with his complaint. To me, that’s a little like if I were to jump in his grill and blame him for the fallen state of education in America. He may agree with my overall assessment but he has no direct ties to that and it is neither his responsibility nor prerogative to be deeply involved with such things. I also gave him the example that I think he should help defend the country he was born in but I don’t expect him to take a tour in Afghanistan to do it, there are other ways that he may have an actual interest in, like pursuing higher education.

In fact, I would go so far as to say that even though the topic centered around the basketball team’s lack of support (which I empathize with), the argument and reason for offense was over basic treatment of people, stereotyping, selfishness, misdirected blame, and pointing of fingers at a group that, at the end of the day, has very little impact on the basketball program. It was absolutely wrong and I held his feet to the fire for it until he recognized that.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Jan 31, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I understand, John

But, let it go. Life is short.

Wish you could make the tailgate Friday. I’d love to talk to you.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Jan 30, 2012 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

give me the details

this is an event that has kind of escaped my attention as I’ve been pretty busy lately. I might be able to make it.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Jan 31, 2012 7:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, I think people have the impression

that I was and still am very torqued over that whole incident. I’m not at all. To me, this is a good forum to expand understanding. I felt a lot of people, including Ihave, came away from that argument feeling no one cared about the other sports, it was just football, football all the time as he put it.

That’s simply not true and I would like that to be understood. But, just like the football team had to do, you have to build up a fanbase. It’s not anyone’s responsibility or job to attend a game they are not into. That is an unfair demand.

Additionally, while quite annoyed at the fact Ihave could not grasp basic concepts, I was never really angry and am not peturbed now. Rather, I see a young man who has conviction, heart, and staying power but who simply had his guns pointed in the wrong direction.

I’ve trained up a lot of young people over the years and sometimes you have to smack them in the back of the head and get in their face a little to pry them from a bad idea. They don’t like it at the time but it plants a seed they can think about for a while. I went tit for tat with Ihave, and part of that is because I like to argue. Another part that I don’t think people realize, is that I considered him worth the time and effort. He’s a young guy, with a strong feeling on an area he has some good points. On top of that he’s a full fledged, card carrying member of Bronco Nation. I consider that worth fighting for or, in this case at least, with.

I don’t know if it shows up in my writing or not, but I’m kind of passionate about this. It has very little to do with basketball, or football, or fan support, or Boise St even. It has much more to do with interpersonal communication, working with people, learning from each other, fleshing out the details of a topic through argument so that everyone understands each other a little better. I hope he comes back but I absolutely feel I pursued that dialogue exactly the way I should have as well.

Sorry for the lengthy response Chief. To summarize, I ain’t mad hehe.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Jan 31, 2012 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Chief, one last thing. Please flag this post I'm writing now so Drew and them will read it.

Drew/Nick/Kevan,

Please do not drop the banhammer on Ihavenofriends. I’m not saying you were even considering it but I saw a lot of calls for that. It was a frustrating experience but I think it was an isolated incident, a perfect storm kind of scenario. I’d like to see how he acts when he comes back this summer, if at all. Though it was the wrong venue and group of people, Ihavenofriends’ overall complaint was a valid one and one worth continued discussion on this forum imho.

Nuggies, Rec me if you agree or reply if you disagree.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Jan 31, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

As I mentioned elsewhere, I actually realized I’ve seen nofriendz at basketball games a lot and he seems like a perfectly sane good kid. That was just a bad day probably…

by BSUbluNorange on Jan 31, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

That's a weird request, John, but consider yourself flagged

I feel like the guy who is asked by his wounded comrade to just shoot him.

In answer to your query about the Tailgate, it’s this Friday, Feb. 3, at the Ram on Broadway. Here’s all the info:
http://www.obnug.com/2012/1/13/2705891/announcing-the-first-ever

I’ll post (somehow) a reminder tomorrow or Thursday. Please come if you can, even if only for a few minutes. (That goes for everyone!)

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Jan 31, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Chief, I'll definitely try and make it

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Jan 31, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Holy Cow

Do I have to write a half page every time I comment now?

by Bleed Blue n Orange on Jan 31, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

I think it’s time we just got the Cliff Notes.

"Kellen Moore has shown the difference between best in the SEC & and best in the Nation" - pjohn56
"I'm tired of even the BCS name" Coach Petersen

by bluebyeu on Jan 31, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, see my sig...I do try, I deleted two paragraphs from one of those long replies, but I'm not good at condensing :p

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Jan 31, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

"The hardest thing about writing is knowing what to leave in the inkwell."

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Feb 1, 2012 1:20 AM PST up reply actions  

As well he should

War and Peace is lengthy, too, but worth reading!

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Feb 1, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I also voted for wrestling,

I use to turn Basketball players into pretzels in high school. lol

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Jan 31, 2012 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

We got to as many as we can...

Soccer, basketball, swimming/diving and softball so far. Have got to get out to see the gymnastic team – wow. The swimmers rock – two girls made it to Nationals last year and its looking even better this year. If my own kids weren’t playing what seems like every dang day, we would get to more stuff. Blue and Orange looks good, no matter the sport.

by HSridge on Jan 30, 2012 10:23 PM PST reply actions  

Great post, azul.

Even though I’m a football all the time sorta, kinda, I find this post refreshing for its enthusiasm. Good job!

"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief

by boiseblues on Jan 30, 2012 10:28 PM PST reply actions  

Nice post azul,

Someone needs to tell IHNFz that you get more with honey than vinegar.
Your post prompted a quick search, and overall, what I found was that at some schools basketball fans, way out shine their football fans, and visa versa. However, some schools with one sport being dominant over the other had no effect with the fans. Which makes my quick search inconclusive. I’m also tired and lazy tonight.
My feeling is that the TBA is great for big regional games, and the hated rival Vandel games, but maybe a little to big for BSU BBall at the present. A lot of older, and fairly successful programs, wouldn’t even fill TBA.( I know its been packed)
I don’t mean any disrespect, but to fill that arena on a regular basis, we’re going to have to win a few more conferences, or make the sweet 16 once in a while. The farther east you go, the bigger the basketball is. Kansas, in the middle, is a Big 12 BBall powerhouse, and pack 16k+ to the max. However their football, mainly bottom feeders, are generally shy by 10k @ 40k in a 50k stadium. Winning does help there.
There are exceptions, we’re just not one yet.

Here is the reason IHNFz is so upset. He mentioned he was from Tennessee
Get outta town! Tennessee masses 100k for football, top 10, and their BBall @
#4. Tennessee 16 game 306,680 19,168 avg out does Kansas who could kick their butts. Go figure?
We have a football team that can play with anybody, but is limited by the stadium capacity, and we have a basketball program that is improving, but hasn’t quite hit their stride yet, and has an arena that is a bit to big, go figure?
The Broncos BBall won the WAC in 2008
The Broncos have appeared in five NCAA Tournaments. Their combined record is 0–5.
The Broncos have appeared in two BCS bowls. Their combined record is 2-0,
and also they have competed with 8 AQ teams since aug 2006 for a combined record of 8-0, and won or tied 8 Conference Championships since 2000
When are we football fans going to get some love. hehe (-;

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Jan 30, 2012 11:59 PM PST reply actions  

the same #1kansas team that

lost @Tennessee in 09/10? yeah, kansas even kicked tennessee’s butt by a whopping 7pts in kansas the year before.

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When someones treated different cause they're not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Jan 31, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Ihavesomefriendzz, your absolutely right, hence the word "could", not does, not will, or not always.

Keep in mind the National sentiment before, and after that game.

“Tennessee Vs. Kansas is Biggest Upset of Season in Men’s College Basketball”

That pretty much spells out that Kansas was suppose to “kick their butts”

I was merely pointing out where your obvious frustrations were possibly coming from, as in the extraordinary attentence record of the Vols. This is just my way of trying to put myself in your shoes, to better understand you, and where your behavior was coming from last weekend. Am I completely wrong?

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Jan 31, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

haha,

tennessee was ranked #15 when they beat Kansas. Hardly the upset of the season. What would that make their loss to Oklahoma State later in the season? Or even to Northern Iowa in the tourney?

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When someones treated different cause they're not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Jan 31, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

but overall

yes, that’s probably why it annoys me that it’s not the same here. I mean, all I hear about is how boise fans are die hards and this and that then to be here and see that the enthusiasm is for football only, it’s a bit frustrating and disappointing.

How is it NOT embarrassing for BSU to 1 game get recognized by espn and several high profile people in basketball around the nation for great fans etc.., only to not even have people show up to the next game? BSU SHOULD be embarrassed by that. Waiting for the game to start vs. Wyoming, fans were coming up to the student section asking what was in store for the game. Of course, there was absolutely nothing. They all seemed disappointed and whatever, but we should NOT have to have some type of entertainment, choreographed dancing, or whatever scheduled for someone to show up. There should be an article coming out in the arbiter thursday about this exact issue. We’ll see if that makes a difference, but, i’m pretty confident that it won’t.

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When someones treated different cause they're not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Jan 31, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you on that. I figure it's like anything else though, a fanbase has to be drummed up.

I think that is JUST now beginning to happen with what Rice is doing. I once read, back in the 90s when record companies still meant something, that it takes a local band 10 years of consistently good music and hardcore touring to get their name recognized enough to draw attention from national brands and sign a deal.

Any new product typically requires a lengthy period of solid performance before it begins getting the recognition it deserves. I think the football program is an excellent example of that. If Rice sticks around and things continue improving I bet you’ll see more fans in the stands next season than you have this year.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Jan 31, 2012 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's typical of most mid level bball teams

Like I may have said earlier, BYU was recognized last year for a gigantic flashmob. This year more students went to the Utah Jazz-Sacramento Kings game to cheer on Jimmer. It happens

Honestly if you wanted to take the matter into your own hands I have an idea for you (this is actually a Utah State thing they did for a homecoming football game. Students are rabid at basketball but are no shows for football). They call it the hurd and the frats run through all the dorms and campus apartments banging on every door hooting and hollering about the game. People know its coming and join in on the hurd and then they all run down the middle of the street to Romney Stadium. You can only plan so many flashmobs in one season but if you wanted to plan another event for SDSU or another game then this is what should be planned. We could call it the stampede or something. Start at the towers, run down university to the dorms by the arena and then run right into tba. If people knew about it you could get some great video and students love to be on video.

Not saying this would bring the same amount of fans as UNLV but just offering a fun idea i had hurd before. It’s things like this that are going to energize the students.

by BSUbluNorange on Feb 1, 2012 6:29 AM PST up reply actions  

also

no, i’m not going to claim that Tennessee had the best student section and whatever during the years they weren’t all that great, because they didn’t have one. Their’s was pretty bad, much like Boise’s. I get that it’s not AS fun to go and support the team and see them lose. I get that. I really do, but I feel like they aren’t going to get any better without some support. If they see no one is in the stands they have no reason to want to win IMO. because why? because it makes no difference! last year when BSU was 21-12 and hosting a post season tourney game we drew a ridiculous 2684 fans. 2684! really? Yup, winning really brings the crowds. granted the next game was almost 6k, but that’s still not even half full. I mean, should it really take 2 or 3 straight years of making the tourney just for people to support them? no. it shouldn’t.

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When someones treated different cause they're not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Jan 31, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Ihavesomefriendzz'

Since the season of Gonzaga’s 1999 NCAA Division 1 Men’s Basketball Tournament run to the Elite 8, Gonzaga has played a total of 61 games against teams ranked in the AP Top 25 Poll. Gonzaga has a record of 21-40 against such teams. They have beaten a team ranked #3 on three occasions (2003-04 season against Missouri, and the 2004-05 season against Georgia Tech and Oklahoma State), and beat a 2nd ranked North Carolina in November 2006.
University Gonzaga University
Conference WCC
Location Spokane, WA
Head coach Mark Few (12th year)
Arena McCarthey Athletic Center
(Capacity: 6,000) [<<<look at this capacity]
Nickname Bulldogs

First I would like to say, now that I understand you more, welcome back, I understand your frustration.
You, like me, spent a lot of time back east. Basketball, is a bit different back east then it is out west. You( like I had too) need to get use to that. The reason I"m using the Gonzaga stats, is because Gonzaga has been at the top of the basketball mecca.
However, their arena only holds 6000 fans. If BSU had that size arena, then 4500 fans would seem pretty robust. However, in a 12,000 capacity arena, it seems pretty empty.
Does the basketball fan base at BSU need to grow? Of course. I’m hoping that the BBall program keeps improving, and eventually makes it to at least the sweet 16. If they can make it farther, awesome! Until then, I’m ok with their present attendance, based on other similar schools attendance in the area.
Again, I appreciate your above responses, and look forward to the usual fiesty comments we’re all use to from the one and only Ihavenofriendzz…(-;

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Jan 31, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

which is why

I’ve said before that I wished Taco Bell Arena were smaller, but I get why they built it big like they did. It’s an entertainment venue, not a basketball venue. It was built to draw concerts, circus, ncaa tournaments, etc… it’s not solely for BSU basketball. I wouldn’t mind playing a game or 2, or 3 or 4 or 5, in Bronco Gym. a D1 game in a gym built for 1000. can’t beat that! it’d be exciting and 50 students in there could be as loud as 100+ in TBA. Although, I feel like, for some reason, the court in bronco gym is a bit shorter?

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by Ihavenofriendzz on Jan 31, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

A downtown game at CenturyLink arena would be cool too!

Maybe for an exhibition game, maybe thats not worth the cost of doing that though. Maybe if they did it as a doubleheader with a stampede game….

by BSUbluNorange on Feb 1, 2012 6:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah...I think it is definately a smaller court...

One time when I was in high school, we played a school with two separate half-court lines because the gym was so short. That is a great idea though…I liked the UNC game earlier this year played on a battle ship. I still think we should play a game in bronco stadium. Take a couple of hours to set up after a football game and then bring everyone back in from tailgating. Who cares about the weather…it would be fun.

Also, I’m not a student at BSU anymore and have moved away…when I was there I don’t think there was any group organizing cheers or crowd participation. Who was responsible for the choreographed dancing? I think BSU needs a serious club such as this to get things going.

by ce'sped azul on Feb 1, 2012 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

The Corral finally has gotten some funding

Lets hope they become like the Kennel, Utah’s MUSS, Utah State’s Hurd, etc.

Ultimately I think the Corral’s shirts have always been a way to differentiate them. Now after the flash mob it’s not just the small group of 12 that have them. Hopefully it keeps catching on

by BSUbluNorange on Feb 1, 2012 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it was an aircraft carrier

Battleships have been out of commission since the venerable WWII workhorse USS New Jersey was decommissioned in 1991. No room on deck to play basketball. (Minor point, I know, unless you’re a swab.)

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Feb 1, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we should get in on that action.

Isn’t/wasn’t the USS Boise part of an aircraft carrier battle group?

by BSUbluNorange on Feb 1, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

The original USS Boise (CL-47)

gained fame in the Battle of Cape Esperance off Guadalcanal (November 1942) when Captain “Iron Mike” Moran, skipper of the light cruiser, uttered the famous words, “Pick out the biggest one and fire.” Incidentally, his fire control officer was a Boise native. After a horrific slugfest with the Japanese, the Boise was nearly sunk (107 crew died when her forward magazine was hit), and her decks were twisted carnage, but six Japanese men o’war went to the bottom. She was promptly dubbed, “The One-Ship Fleet.” (Also called “The Noisy Boise.”) The Boise limped back to New York harbor and went on to participate in shelling the enemy during the landings in Italy, as I recall.

I got to participate in a reunion of the cruiser’s crew here in Boise in 1988 (I think it was) and met many of those heroic sailors. Visit the Boise’s memorial (with ship’s bell) adjacent to the Discovery Center on Myrtle Street.


The second USS Boise (SSN-764) is a Los Angeles-class nuclear fast-attack submarine, commissioned in 1992. I was fortunate to be a member of the local committee in support of the sub, and have had the privilege of meeting many of the officers and crew over the years.


My brothers in the Goat Locker aboard the submarine Boise.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Feb 1, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Senior. I may be way off here.

You make some excellent points. You have “Paid your Dues”.. so have I.
You know as well as I do that some time the "size of the house " is not that important. Why do I say this? Well one of favorite places the world for concerts is a small joint in Altadena CA. called The Coffee Gallery Backstage, it holds no more that 60 people but gets world class acts to play there. Why ?A couple of reasons, first the “owner” Bob was the"booker" at both the Ash Grove, and The Troubadour, so he knows everybody, but I think most important the acts know the people who go there are there for the music, and boy do the acts respond. I know that many people will " take some time off during a “big tour” just to play there to recharge. I mean I got to talk to Van Dyke Parks between sets about his love of Percy Grainger.
What has any of this have to due with BSU sports. Just this. The Football program has “paid it’s dues” and is reaping the rewards, the other sports might have a few more to pay.

by skipit on Jan 31, 2012 8:25 AM PST reply actions  

I don't think you're way off. I think you're right on!

The sweetest place in which I ever performed was the old BSU Subal Theatre (today, upstairs in the Communications Building). I helped build it. Maximum seating was 125. When we did Macbeth in ‘68, the down center point of the stage was about three feet from the front row of the audience. Actors and audience shared an intimacy, unlike anything I’ve experienced before or since. We were one, and fed off each other’s energy. It was an amazing phenomenon.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Jan 31, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Then Senior

You would love the Gallery, the worst seat is maybe 12 to 15 feet from the stage along the back wall, and the sight lines are amazing. As I sound man I usually hate JBL monitors with a passion, but Bob really has them dialed in, its a very special place.

by skipit on Jan 31, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Women's volleyball!

Duh.

Nota Bene: I was at a party many years ago when a number of the women’s v-ball team showed up. It was surreal standing among all these beautiful girls that stood four or five inches taller than me. I’m 6". Yowzah.

Time is the great equalizer.

by kcam on Jan 31, 2012 9:43 AM PST reply actions  

So Kcam

i wonder , is that your second favorite BSU team?

by skipit on Jan 31, 2012 10:22 AM PST reply actions  

Need I explicate?

But truth be told, I pretty much only attend football games. Nevetheless, pictures of women’s v-ball feeds my pulchritude fix.

Time is the great equalizer.

by kcam on Jan 31, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Jesus guys

I thought being social was the point on ONBug? This story has Multiple novels for comments, lol. ANYway + Other sports are GreaT! Cept if U ‘combine’ the revenues of All non-cfb sports they get beat out $$ wise by BSU Football by at least 4×. – But then again, I dont have to pay for a Girls volleyball Picture and I can get a Wrestling jersey for $18.95 not $199.95 = BSU CFB, sport of the Rich of the TreasureValley or those who just miss Quite a few meals, live in tents at the Capitol Building and/or Never date so as to be able to afford to go see a BSU Football game nowadays. U TELL ME ! ?? So, what is my point then – please youside Now. lol, — PS = I NEED a Student to Adopt me and Give me a Ticket now and then – OK, Who’s first to be my New Student Friend?

by Roj on Jan 31, 2012 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

ONBug! You crack me up Roj.......LMAO

If you ever wanted to see Boise St play...may be a good chance. Love em or Hate em, they are always interesting; and now, no matter where you live, "They're Coming To Your City"

by astrosmurf on Jan 31, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

PS

WHY does ONBUG List us as Pacific Time ?? Yes, I am only an hour away from freeing up an hour but last time i checked we were Mountain Standard time ?? Just wondering

by Roj on Jan 31, 2012 7:07 PM PST reply actions  

I think that is a setting you select when you make a new account...

Either that or it is because I am in Pacific Time and obnug is customized for me!

by ce'sped azul on Feb 1, 2012 7:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Go to your profile

click edit profile then click the first tab… I think it says settings and something… you can change it there

by lifelongbronco on Feb 1, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I voted "when are we getting a baseball team?"

My true alma mater, Lewis-Clark State College, is a baseball powerhouse (okay, in NAIA, but they beat on D1 schools from time to time, too). I’d love to see BSU get a baseball team; especially given the Hawk’s ability to draw a crowd, there is definitely some interest in baseball in the valley.

Now, what to do about Title IX…maybe Women’s Bowling? That is an NCAA sport…

by kellenc on Feb 3, 2012 8:35 AM PST reply actions  

We had a baseball team when I was a young Bronco

Pity it’s gone.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.

by SeniorChief on Feb 3, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I too

voted for “when are we getting a baseball team?”

The high school I went to is a powerhouse in Tennessee. There was a game last year? I think, they drew like 1,000+ people supposedly. It doesn’t seem like a lot, sure, but, for high school baseball? come on. Obviously that is outside the norm, but either way. Can’t complain about making the state championship game 10 times since 1999. winning 7. 4 in a row. It’s crazy what they have been able to do. several finishes in the final baseballamerica rankings. Ridiculous record of like 161-22 the last 4 years. I love me some baseball. Plus Tennessee was decent when I was growing up. Then they got rid of their coach and it’s been kind of downhill ever since. Except, they’ve managed to upgrade the stadium and add more seats. huh. interesting.

And if you like baseball, the College World Series is definitely fun. Stinks they aren’t in Rosenblatt anymore though. Oregon State has shown teams in the NW can compete. Maybe one day BSU will get a team. and have an ON campus stadium (doubtful! there’s no room)

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"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Feb 3, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

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