Way too early Top 25 lists are way not that into Boise State
by Kevan Lee on Jan 11, 2012 8:00 AM PST
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PrintNow that the final season-ending polls are out, it's high time for some extremely early and wildly speculative preseason Top 25 lists for next year. ESPN's Mark Schlabach has his. CBS Sports' Brett McMurphy has his. Some guy at Yahoo Sports I've never heard of has one, too. And no one is particularly high on the Broncos.
- Mark Schlabach has Boise State at No. 20.
- Brett McMurphy has Boise State "also considered."
- Random Yahoo guy does not even mention the Broncos and is now dead to me, after knowing him for 45 seconds.
Of the early pollsters, Schlabach is the only one to throw any words Boise State's direction. He sees great things ahead for the Broncos, which is fun. He just can't help but notice all those star players who aren't around any more.
The Broncos are 73-6 in coach Chris Petersen's six seasons and probably will finish in the top 10 for the third straight year.
I think it's best I stop reading there.
In Bronco-related news, the way early preseason polls have a huge crush on Michigan State, the Broncos' first opponent of 2012. Schlabach has the Spartans at No. 9, McMurphy at No. 18, and Yahoo guy at No. 13. If Boise State can sneak into the Top 25 by August time, we could have ourselves a Top 25 matchup in East Lansing.
LSU is the consensus No. 1, USC is the consensus No. 2, and there are interesting names like TCU and Georgia dotting the Top 15s in multiple polls. I know that preseason polls are just the meaningless whimsy of writers and experts and Fresno State football teams circa early 2000s, but I guess I just got used to a certain style of living. Guess Boise State knows where to find its shoulder chips for next year.
Your turn
What do you make of these way-too-early polls? Do these guys have it right? Are they completely off base? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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I say good.
puts the chip back on the shoulder and takes the pressure off our potentially rough rebuilding year. I hope Sparty is #2 by the time we play them so the upset is even more fantastic. With all the talent we’re losing, I think being at the bottom of the pile in the fortune-teller drinking game we call ‘preseason rankings’ makes enough sense that I’m not outraged.
haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.
*Chris Petersen For President*
by mc.hammertime on Jan 11, 2012 8:22 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Random Yahoo guy says that Baylor isn't it the top 25 because RG3 isn't coming back.
I assume this is part of why BSU isn’t mentioned, due to Kellen Moore not returning. But Luck and Cousins aren’t returning but the Cardinal and Sparty are both highly ranked. This gut is a tool.
by B.D.Bronco on Jan 11, 2012 8:40 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Not that I disagree with you...
But Baylor didn’t have anything but RG3.
We are losing Kellen, Doug, our best OL, leading WR, whole defensive line, both linebackers, nickel, 2 safeties.
Stanford returns almost all of #2 pac12 defense, will loose Luck and their best OL.
Sparty returns most of best big10 defense, loses Cousins and all WRs.
I can understand it, while the drop-off at a lot of our positions may not be much at all, there is a lot of uncertainty.
by ce'sped azul on Jan 11, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
Uncertainty
Especially from outsiders.
I always go full retard
ಠ_ಠ
by sczmbz on Jan 11, 2012 9:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
They also see we are losing our OC.
"Kellen Moore has shown the difference between best in the SEC & and best in the Nation" - pjohn56
"I'm tired of even the BCS name" Coach Petersen
"We are losing Kellen, Doug, our best OL, leading WR, whole defensive line, both linebackers, nickel, 2 safeties."
But we’re returning Coach Pete, and his cupboard isn’t bare. Nuff said, I believe.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
by SeniorChief on Jan 11, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
My gut is a tool also.
Just don’t ask me what that means.
"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.
by NYBroncosFan on Jan 11, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
I think Schlabach's rankings are about right
Remember, Auburn this year was 23rd in the preseason AP poll after winning it all last year. Losing tons of players – which BSU does – will always mean a big hit to your preseason ranking, regardless of which team you are.
I would be surprised if the coaches and AP didn't have BSU in the top20 for the pre-season next year.
But after what the Sugar Bowl did to us, can I really be that surprised?
Huguenin at Yahoo! isn't exactly a newbie
He’s kind of their “rank everything guy.” I agree that his rankings here are terrible though…Utah in the Top 25? I don’t see that.
"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.
Appears to me like he is more of a basketball guy
Very few articles until 2011 with a big gap between April 2011 and September 2011, then all of a sudden he is a college football expert. He did a conference wrap up for most of the conferences including the WAC but apparently wasn’t aware that the was a MWC.
Nah, he's been around for awhile
He always did the “Rivals 120 at 1:20”, which mostly just proved that his rankings were a little weird.
"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.
by NYBroncosFan on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
who cares
With as many good players as Boise State is losing, it does not surprise me at all.. Most people keep thinking that Boise was only winning because of Kellen Moore.. The only thing Boise can do is win next year. I do believe that they will be ranked pretty low, if they win, they will be fast risers..
by East Coast Broncos Fan on Jan 11, 2012 10:37 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
TCU started our post-Dalton era at 14-15
I would expect about the same for Boise State.
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
That would be completely acceptable to me
14-15 even somewhere between 15-20 I would be totally fine with but NR or even below 20 would be a bit dissapointing… to me at least
by lifelongbronco on Jan 11, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
"TCU started our post-Dalton era at 14-15"
Ranking or the number of Tank Carder’s armbands?
The battle for hierarchy is more intense the lower the class.
by kcam on Jan 11, 2012 11:23 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
by SeniorChief on Jan 11, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
it's okay to start the season unranked or in the 20's
a season opening win at michigan state, a decisive victory over byu a few weeks later, followed by another one against southern mississippi, will put the broncos solidly in the top 10-12 with only league games after that. no worries. we win. we finish in the top ten.
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Jan 11, 2012 12:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm really surprised.
I thought we’d be a top 15 team, but surely a top 20. Also surprised Schlabach had MSU after losing QB Cousins and the top 4 WR’s. Also after Worthy declared for the draft and they lose their saftey Robinson.
However, the higher Sparty is ranked the better.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Jan 11, 2012 12:52 PM PST reply actions
The Bigger Question is...
What will the broncos be ranked after MSU?
The only thing the BCS has to fear, is fear itself, and Blue is the color of fear.
Excuse me, but
didn’t we learn just this past month that rankings don’t mean diddlysquat? (I think I know they really do, but then how could they, since they didn’t, and to whom? and does the whom matter since they didn’t? where are those little white pills, anyway?)
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
All I can say to that papaspud...
…is “ewwwww!”
"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.
by NYBroncosFan on Jan 11, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
or
“owwwwwwwwww”
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
by boiseblues on Jan 11, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh BB
I sort of always thought of you as, you know, sort of, I mean, you know. You know what i’m trying to say, right?
"It's all yours little Beaver... this 200 shot range model air rifle is just like the one I used in my range wars chasin' rustlers and bad guys!" Red Ryder
"You'll shoot your eye out!" Ralphies Mom
PEW PEW PEW! Kellen Moore
I do, I am, I do, but...
four hours? Jeesh.
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
by boiseblues on Jan 12, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
recidy rec rec rec.
"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7
"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation
by reflectivity on Jan 16, 2012 6:52 AM PST up reply actions
That's way too funny...rec'd
"Nobody likes it"
"I'm tired of even the BCS name"
"The whole thing needs to be changed."
-Coach Pete on the BCS.
by NYBroncosFan on Jan 13, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
I'm inclined to agree, bb
Ever since we matriculated to this ratings game, it’s been fun to think, “what if?” I’ve always been sympathetic to women’s causes, but now we’ve all experienced (to a miniscule degree, of course) what it must feel like to hit the glass ceiling. Ouch. That hurt my head, and I don’t like it.
I’m thinking I’d like to just go back to the old days of winning the rivalries and the conference, and let the naysayers be bad-worded. Forget the posturing necessary to play the game, and just settle for enjoying the contest on the field, which is the only real measure of a team’s worth, anyway. However, as Wolfe said, you can’t go home again. Gad, but I hate politics. (sigh)
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
by SeniorChief on Jan 11, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting comparison, Senior.
And you are exactly right. It hurts. It is diminishing. And when one complains, the derogatory labels emerge. Bronco Nation as whiners? Or telling it like it is when many don’t want to hear.
Thanks for writing your take, as it is a thoughtful one.
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
I am reminded of one of my all-time favorite movies
Gentleman’s Agreement, winner of the 1947 Academy Award for Best Picture. Not that I think the BCS situation is anywhere near as insidious as anti-semitism, but it flashed through my mind.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
It's way to early
I really don’t mind where we are right now. Let’s face reality we have some questions that won’t be answered till at least the end of Spring Ball or the end of Fall Camp.
Let the “Experts” under rate us till we come out and smoke MSU.
BTW
I just looked SB Nation has us at # 15. I can live with that for now.
Pre-season polls have little value
My preference is for the Broncos to remain low in the polls. Yes, the Broncos will face some changes next season. The team has encountered those changes in the past, yet they continue to be successful. Some adjustments on both sides of the ball are likely to occur. The beauty of this condition is that the Broncos will be a bit more unpredictable. As far as Michigan State game stands, let them be overconfident and unprepared. Assuming the Broncos arrive with a chip on the shoulder, the team may be more focused and quickly regain their swagger when they proceed to dominate the game. That victory will establish the tone for another awesome season. Let the self proclaimed experts (mostly entertainers) bellow.
by Spike82 on Jan 11, 2012 9:58 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I would agree they have little value in terms of next season...
But how will it affect recruiting when kids see we are no longer ranked, will they think we are on the decline?
Then throw in the loss of a few coaches, there is uncertainty in the program. A ranking in whatever poll may not matter to us, but it still matters to the program.
by ce'sped azul on Jan 12, 2012 7:58 AM PST up reply actions
A lower ranked Boise is actually a bigger threat.
A ranking in the top 15 would be nice. It would mean that we have finally earned the respect of the college football world. This year we stayed in the top ten even though we only beat UGA and lost to TCU.
But if we are ranked high(er) then MSU might actually take us seriously. But they just might be looking past a Kellen/Hamster-less lowly (un)ranked Boise and Central Michigan and be more focused on the Notre Dame game in week 3.
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