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Boise State, Kellen Moore too much for Toledo in 40-15 Bronco win

Toledo hung tough, but the Rockets had no answer for Kellen Moore as the Bronco QB passed for over 400 yards, threw five touchdowns, and led BSU to a 40-15 win. Hit the jump for a recap and stats and some knee-jerk reactions following Boise State's win. And don't forget to share your thoughts in the comments.

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Top Five plays

  • Doug Martin screen pass TD. Um, guys, that may have been the best screen pass score we will ever see. I hope you DVR'ed it.
  • Chase Baker interception. Boise State's criminally underrated tackle corralled a deflected screen pass to kill a Toledo drive midway through the second quarter that would have cut the Bronco lead to one-score. Credit Shea McClellin for batting the ball into the air and for being Shea McClellin.
  • Kellen Moore TD to Tyler Shoemaker (the first one). The score came in direct response to a Toledo TD and helped right the Boise State ship after the Broncos fell behind. Also, it was a thing of beauty. So it had that going for it.
  • Cedric Febis forced fumble. With Toledo driving following a Kellen Moore interception, Febis stripped QB Austin Dantin on a rather uncoordinated quarterback run, ending another Toledo red zone opportunity. J.C. Percy pounced on the loose ball.
  • Toledo screen pass TD. Though it made me seethe with white-hot anger, the Toledo screen pass that opened the scoring in the first quarter was pretty fun to watch. The O-line froze after the snap (which I swear never works) and then broke downfield to block for Toledo TE Danny Noble who had nothing but green between him and the end zone. Kudos, Toledo coach Tim Beckman. You have unlocked the trickerration achievement.

It was over when ...

Kellen Moore found Tyler Shoemaker for the third time to make it 33-9 with six minutes to play. Then it was really over for good when Tim Beckman went for one point after the next Toledo touchdown instead of going for two, which would have made it a two-score game.

Game recap

After beating Georgia 35-21 in a game that wasn't that close, the Broncos beat Toledo 40-15 in a game that was closer than it looks. The Rockets, buoyed by some timely plays on offense, kept the game close for three-and-a-half quarters before finally giving in against Kellen Moore and the Broncos. Quite the moral victory win streak those Rockets are on.

Moore completed a career high 32 passes, most in easy Kellen fashion. Out routes, seam routes, slants and gos - Moore hit them all. He found nine different receivers (including Tyler Shoemaker three times in the end zone) and finished with five touchdown passes, tying a career high he has set on multiple occasions before. Toledo did not have an answer nor, apparently, did they know there would be a test.

The Boise State defense, expected to dominate the Rockets, played classic bend-but-don't break, allowing just nine points until a late score in fourth quarter garbage time. The Bronco D's biggest plays were two second half turnovers that BSU forced inside their own 20, snuffing out Toledo drives.

Boise State will have plenty to work on this next week (as Coach Pete's perma-scowl on the sidelines would attest), but in college football you have to take road wins however you can get them. It wasn't always pretty, but it got the job done.

Statistics

Passing

Kellen Moore - 32-for-43, 455 yards, 5 TDs, 1 INT
Austin Dantin - 3-for-8, 50 yards, 1 TD
Terrance Owens - 17-for-31 yards, 201 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT

Rushing

Doug Martin - 19 carries, 68 yards
Adonis Thomas - 14 carries, 65 yards

Receiving

Doug Martin - 5 catches, 122 yards, 1 TD
Tyler Shoemaker - 4 catches, 52 yards, 3 TDs
Mitch Burroughs - 6 catches, 76 yards
Matt Miller - 6 catches, 65 yards
Eric Page - 8 catches, 69 yards

Knee-jerk reactions

I'll be interested to see how the stats and game recaps go for this one. I have a feeling Boise State didn't play as poorly as I felt they did this game. At least, I hope so ... The field position was a key part to that first half. Toledo had it, Boise State didn't ... Toledo had some success running slants and quick passes inside against Boise State's linebackers and safeties, so I hope no other teams were watching tonight ... What a catch by Mitch Burroughs ... I don't have a problem with Toledo subbing Dantin for one series in the second half. The series came right after Owens had missed a few receivers pretty badly, so it's not like the guys was on fire ... Clutch play by McClellin on the screen pass tip. Boise State had to have a play ...  I was really glad Boise State put up that last touchdown to make it 40-15. That score will look a lot better on Saturday morning than 33-15 would have ... I don't even know what to say about Boise State's placekickers right now ... Kellen Moore, Kellen Moore, Kellen Moore ...

Your turn

What did you think of the Bronco win? How good is that Kellen Moore guy? Share your thoughts in the comments.

Poll
Who was the player of the game for Boise State?
Kellen Moore
694 votes

694 votes | Poll has closed

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It was ugly at times.

It was also gorgeous at times.

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by reflectivity on Sep 16, 2011 8:40 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Reacting!

Is it counterintuitive to root for both Boise State and the Yankees?

by NYBroncosFan on Sep 16, 2011 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I voted for Kellen

who did everyone else vote for?

by BKZ on Sep 16, 2011 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Kellen who?

I voted for Dan Goodale. He made the rest of the team look good even when we flat out sucked at times.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 16, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec for poll sellection

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by BSUFlyboy on Sep 16, 2011 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

winning, duh

I love watching the opposing team’s stadium empty out in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

by sgtkrabb on Sep 16, 2011 8:44 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions  

I chose Kellen as well

although all the other choices were good.

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by Noel.Diggity on Sep 16, 2011 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Awesome poll

Ugly in certain spots, but a win is a win. Stoked for next weekend.

September 3rd, 2011 - Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game - Boise State - 35 vs Georgia - 21
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by MyBroncos on Sep 16, 2011 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

have u seen him play?

KM has a td reception to his name, he has also kicked a punt inside the 20… and scrambled once for a 7-yard 1st down! i daresay the other team is lucky we have to let other people play!

just kidding, we had some amazing catches by Burroughs and Kirby

by 84bsufan on Sep 16, 2011 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only things that concerned me

1. Offensive line run-blocking. They’re not getting a big push.

2. WRs dropping passes. Fixed it, but I wanted that 90% comp.

3. Missed tackles

by BoyCeeState on Sep 16, 2011 8:53 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Fantastic!

Don’t change a thing. Then we can just stop faking it and line up and go for it on 4th and field goal range. And it gives us the opportunity to go for 2 more often as well.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 16, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree...

…with all these things. Kellen is so smooth he made a semi- sloppy team effort look like a blowout. I thought the Georgia score made it look closer than it was and this score looked like more of a blowout than it was. Did anyone else think that Toledo marched up the field easier than Georgia? Defense wasn’t very solid tonight. And what’s up with Kellen running the option? I mean there’s creative and then there’s plain silly. The option? With Kellen? Really? Why waste a down on a play like that? I’d rather see us work on our run blocking and see Dougie run it up the gut.

Anyway, it’s easy to criticize here from my living room but a win is a win and it still looks good on paper. Plus there were some definite bright spots tonight. I’m liking the idea of 4 years if “Miller Time”. What a great start to a Bronco career. Way to come in and contribute right away #2!

Here’s to getting better every game! Go Broncos!

by Adkoon on Sep 16, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

honestly it looked like Toledo gave us more of a challenge than UGA.

UGA had a few big plays, whereas Toledo played us tough the whole game… if we didnt get that int and fumble recovery, as well as their WR missing a sure TD catch, we would have been chewing our nails down to the last minute and it could’ve been very bad..I also think Toledo would’ve done alot better sticking with only Owens at QB.

by 84bsufan on Sep 17, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kellen Option...

… seems like an oxymoron. I love Kellen as a college qb. But the option? The defender didn’t even flinch when he saw that. Bad call, Coach Pease. BTW… Awesome game, Coach Pease & Co.

by WhoTookMyUserName on Sep 17, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kellen is a freaking surgeon!

absolutely incredible performance by him tonight.

still a little worried at the lack of deep throws… or even deep ball ATTEMPTS at this point. also, i’m starting to get a little worried about our running game too, but I’m hoping that has more to do with our lack of a FB right now.

can anyone tell me who Venable’d the Page in the 3rd?? that hit was BRUTAL!

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Sep 16, 2011 8:54 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I think it was Febis

"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." -- Dan Hawkins

by smurfturfer on Sep 16, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

i thought it was a white guy?

nothing racist… just got a quick look at him. it almost looked like Borgman, but I don’t think he hits like that

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Sep 16, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry! I was thinking a different play.

You are right. It was Josh Borgman.

"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." -- Dan Hawkins

by smurfturfer on Sep 16, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was Hazen Moss...

Or hunter white. I thought i saw a 2 in the number.

by adizzle5000 on Sep 17, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

munson'd

“the Page” was a combination of “Page” and “the KR”. ugh.

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Sep 16, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

95% sure it was Hazen Moss #24

I re-watched it a good 10 times after the game. In slow motion, I could definitely see a number 4 on the right side and the top of a 2 on the left. Just my input.

by BSUoverU on Sep 16, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

we were going back and forth between Moss and Borgman

my dad thought it was Moss, too.

if it was, Moss has really impressed me with his play on special teams so far this year! he’s been involved on a ton of plays

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Sep 16, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

My first thought was Moss

but I only saw it once

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Sep 16, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

For “Venable’d”… I miss him more than anybody from the guys that left :’( Yes, I am crying.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 16, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I miss Jeron Johnson

"It's kind of like getting your first kiss, times a thousand" - Matt Miller

by DanBSUMan on Sep 17, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not too worried about our running game...

it seemed like Toledo was selling out to stop the run most of the time and we never really pounded it with consecutive attempts.

by 84bsufan on Sep 17, 2011 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Tyrone Crawford sack was a little Venable like as well

It showed how strong he is that when he launched himself at the qb but didn’t really hit the guy with his body at all rather he grabbed him in mid air and pulled him down. That was awesome.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Sep 17, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was amazed that we kept giving up 3rd down yardage

but he D stayed strong

So this Irishman walks out of the bar....No really, he walked out...

by whjdmum on Sep 16, 2011 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

They were too sloppy

Maybe it was the bye week. Can not wait for next week

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by Broncograd96 on Sep 16, 2011 9:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm for us going for it on 4th down every time.

No field goals. Not after tonight’s extra points.

by freshbreff on Sep 16, 2011 9:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Okay, so I've never tried kicking...

…but I always imagined these guys doing nothing but kick while everyone else does drills. If that were true, it seems like EVERY kicker should be really good because their whole job is to kick, right? On those extra points, one of the misses wasn’t really even close and another extra point, while good, looked pretty bad. Don’t we have two kickers fighting for that kicking job? Wouldn’t you think that one of them would have emerged as a consistent kicker by now. What am I missing here? Feel free to put me in my place. I’d be happy to see the counter-argument.

by Adkoon on Sep 16, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've thought about this too. They can't be doing much more than kicking over and over again

So you have to think its a lot of it is mental. I wonder, at what point will we start pointing to the coaching staff? I don’t think we’ve had a kicker that we didn’t have to worry about since Tyler Jones.

by foryourhead on Sep 16, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

My first thought was

it’s time to burn Jake Van Ginkel’s red shirt, but then I was really scared when I thought….was he red shirted because he isn’t as good as these guys??? Can’t Tyler Jones and Kyle Stringer have babies who have a baby together who becomes our kicker in 2020? (I didn’t really do the math there)

by 4EverBleedBlue on Sep 17, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The kickers do WAY more during practice than just kicking kicking kicking. They run the drills just like everyone else. A lot of the kicking position is mental, and it is much harder than it looks.

I think something was different this game — if you watched the game versus Georgia, Dan Goodale’s PATs were all straight dead center through the uprights. This game? Not so much. Wonder if there was something different going on? Frisina and Goodale both are accurate kickers, and both missed to the left. Something going on here and I don’t think it’s the kickers. Not an expert so I don’t know what it is…but that’s just my opinion.

by AZBro on Sep 17, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it was nerves, you'd think it would come out in the Georgia game, not the Toledo game.

And I don’t think yellow balls sailing out of the endzones would interrupt focus to that degree…but like you said, I don’t kick so I don’t know.

You write that you don’t know what it is…but do you have a sneaking hunch? A possible opinion? I’d like to hear it, just in case you have happened upon gold, Obnug’s mole in the athletic office can correct that nasty shanking. :)
I’m not ready to panic on the kicking just yet, but then, I’m working on a whiskey so I’m good.

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by boiseblues on Sep 17, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it was nerves, and I do have some ideas about what it might be…lots I don’t know though. Was there wind affecting the drift of the kicks? I’ve watched a lot of videos on Goodale, and he’s accurate. Wonder if there’s a holding situation going on? I’m not redirecting the blame to anyone, per say, just think it’s weird both Frisina and Goodale miss to the left.

I’m not panicking either, but then again, I’m right there with you on the whiskey. I think Goodale’s performance in the Georgia game indicates he can handle the pressure, hopefully the kinks will get worked out before the next game.

by AZBro on Sep 17, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which

I was really surprised Toledo’s team wasn’t penalized because of their fans. That was horrible. Even ESPN got faked out thinking the refs had thrown a flag.

by daddy18 on Sep 18, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know, right?

Yellow football night? That’s about as good of an idea as souvenir bat night at a Yankee vs. Red Sox game. Brilliant!

by Adkoon on Sep 19, 2011 12:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Scott said

there was something weird going on with the hold. Something about the laces that he was trying to explain to me. He said Pettis would watch the laces and spin the ball as it was coming down, but that motion was slower last night – like the ball wasn’t completely set. He said that’s why they curved crazy like they did.

What Scotty-Boy knows about kicking PATs is beyond me, but he was relatively adamant.

OBNUG Resident Mom

by Crissie on Sep 17, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay so maybe there was some exaggeration there.

I know that they do more than just kick at practice but I still have to believe they do an awful lot of kicking. QBs work on passing, WRs work on catching, defense works on tackling (at least I hope they do!), and kickers work on kicking. I know that the reponsibility of a field goal or a PAT doesn’t just lie on the shoulders of the kicker too. My comments, while targetted at the kicker were really directed at the kicking game as a whole. We lost Brotzman and Pettis last year so I’m sure the coaching staff knew there was a lot of work to do here with some new guys. That’s why they should be going through tons of reps in spring and fall practice. However, if it were just nerves and the kicking game were fine, then why did coach Pete keep going for it on 4th instead of letting him kick? He doesn’t seem to trust the kicking game either and I can bet that he knows a lot more about it than anyone. His decisions on the field lead me to believe that he thinks there’s a problem and that make me concerned. Good thing we’ve got Kellen to hang 400+ yards on teams so hopefully it will be a non-issue.

by Adkoon on Sep 19, 2011 12:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The snaps and holds seemed off

The first miss —you can see that the laces are toward the kicker, which is evidentially a problem.

by ElPepeGrande on Sep 19, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brad Elkin...

… so I wonder if he can make a PAT? See this quote from broncosports regarding his high school career: made “16-of-17 extra points and 7-of-10 field goals, including a 51-yarder, the longest in the state of Washington in 2006”

How’s that kicker doing who de-committed from BSU? Where’s he playing now?

by WhoTookMyUserName on Sep 17, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bad-ass Game

Usually Boise State scores don’t show how dominant we were, but this score doesn’t show how close it was, imo.

 K Clint Stitser, who missed three field goals in today’s practice, was waived.

by pretendhuman on Sep 16, 2011 9:06 PM PDT reply actions  

We'll probably need a couple of those down the line.

Wonder if this not really running up of the score is because of that.

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by reflectivity on Sep 16, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does it seem like Pete is angrier than usual this year?

It seems uncharacteristic for his usually calm approach, but I guess that can happen with the NCAA infractions, DutchGate, and allowing all those ridiculous third and long conversions. Seriously, the permascowl never faded

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by Jungblut on Sep 16, 2011 9:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Pete

does look angrier, but I think its for good reason. The NCAA infractions, missed extra points and the whole Dutch thing is really pissing him off methinks. Whats not pissing him off? Kellen Moore, Shea/Baker pick combo, and Kirby’s hair.

by branahl on Sep 16, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he does seem pretty angry

Then again, he always seems angry during games. Good or bad, it seems.

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Sep 16, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perfect Pete

Are you kidding this guy folds his pants the same way every night. The multiple off field nonsense can make this type AAA personality just crazy.

Our kicking is a joke.

NCAA a joke.

Pete better hit the yoga mats to chill.

by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Sep 17, 2011 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

The game was horribly officiated IMO

I think Pete was frustrated with a sloppy game by the officials. MACtion at it’s finest with those jokers for referees.

by idaho_techsan on Sep 17, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that we need it, but it doesnt seem like we are stretching the field with any deep balls and the D is cheating the run. The Muscle Hamster needs some room to run! Great poll! lmao

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by letthebeatingsbegin2011 on Sep 16, 2011 9:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Kicking game makes me sad.

Running game makes me a bit confused.

Passing game makes me happy.

I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.

by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 9:29 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

this.

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Sep 16, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

running game

makes me sad right now. I’m telling myself this was all gameplanned from the start, but …

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It felt like Toledo was trying to take away Boise State’s run, which is odd because you’re just asking Moore to beat you … and he did.

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Sep 16, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

ya

I hope that is it. But after this game and the Georgia one, I’m not all that convinced.

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some people have Martin on their FF team!

I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.

by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's harder to teach good leg/distance than accuracy.

I think Goodale has the leg, and they’re taking chances on him in low-stakes games like Toledo to try to get him to have both. Rough night for him though

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by mc.hammertime on Sep 16, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I voted for Kellen Moore

I thought he was pretty good tonight :)

"All we can do is win the games on our schedule" - Coach Pete

by givemesomemoore on Sep 16, 2011 9:38 PM PDT reply actions  

A 25 point victory is a 25 point victory

But I’m worried about

1) Special teams (except for a few KO returns, and like one or two punts, this sucked)

2) The running game (hopefully this was just gameplanning, but still)

3) The first quarter-and-change (ya, not good).

The second two were … uhhhhh … for both Georgia and Toledo, while the first was really good against Georgia (when we didn’t have to kick field goals) and …. uhhhhhhhhh ….. against Toledo

Seriously, get rid of the red zone turnovers by Toledo and give them that dropped wide open TD pass, and this is a seriously scary game.

Kellen Moore, though. Best college quarterback ever? Best college quarterback ever.

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 9:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's never see that again

I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.

by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

no one will EVER see that coming!

/everyone will be fast enough to defend it anyways.

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would the plan EVER revolve around Kellen getting creamed by a linebacker?

I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.

by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

well, the opponents hope their linebackers can get the job done.

and they won’t be able to.

BUT WAIT. The detailed benefits are not just your average dollars-under-the-table, or some lameass "we let some players sleep at an apartment on the floor with a coach's help" allegations. No, you get the hell out of here, Boise.
--EDSBS

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by Grindhouse on Sep 16, 2011 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I mean Kellen keeping on the option

I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.

by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

and i mean coaches hope that their linebackers are good enough to stop kellen from doing what he wants.

and they won’t be able to.

(i get what you were saying, i was just trying to make a funny.)

BUT WAIT. The detailed benefits are not just your average dollars-under-the-table, or some lameass "we let some players sleep at an apartment on the floor with a coach's help" allegations. No, you get the hell out of here, Boise.
--EDSBS

Twitter: @damienbsu

by Grindhouse on Sep 16, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean

did you SEE what happened when Kellen came out of the game for those couple of plays?

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously, I'm not an OC or anything like that

But Kellen is Kellen AMAZING valuable when he’s throwing the ball. It’s his first, best, college destiny. Anything else is a waste. /Spock’d

I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.

by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was never in doubt

“Seriously, get rid of the red zone turnovers by Toledo and give them that dropped wide open TD pass, and this is a seriously scary game.”

But you assume we would have used the same game strategy and had the dropped passes, pick, missed tackles and other smaller mistakes we made. We caused the red zone turnovers and we dropped a couple of passes that could have led to scores as well.

My biggest concerns were:

1. Place kickers
2. Missed tackles

The running game is OK, we just do it in reverse. We set up the run game with our passing! For the second game in a row, our O line and the runners pounded it out down the stretch to take time off the clock. Not sure Pere was really trying to score at the end, but Drew had other ideas. I was somewhat surprised to see Hedrick only take a couple of snaps. Sad to see Mitch have that TD called back but psyched that Shoe got 3 TD’s and Drew Wright got one.

Chin strap Kirbo…but awesome catch

Mitch rocks

Kyle Brotzman was only called on two times in 4 years to win a game with his foot. I sincerely hope we figure that part of the game out, cuz we may need it. Two rookies, both equally nervous, with perhaps Frisina looking the better tonight. Goodale was right down the middle all 5 times in Atlanta. Was there a wind out there? Bad holds hurt Toledo’s PAT’s but ours looked perfect.

I think the game was not closer than it looked, it was never in doubt, no more than Georgia.

Rockets have grit, but the students throwing the balls on the field was almost allowed to get out of hand by the refs.

Scariest moment in recent memory – #11 on the sideline getting his knee looked at.

Titus was cool – that was some hat!

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State when they play the Chinese...maybe.

by HSridge on Sep 16, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kyle only had to win a couple of games

But he was pretty auto with the extra points.

I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.

by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

“But you assume we would have used the same game strategy”

I didn’t say I thought we’d lose the game. Mainly for the reasons you outline. But it would have been scary. Which this one wasn’t after the first little bit.

“My biggest concerns were:

1. Place kickers"

Ya, that was the main thing for my number 1 as well. If we can’t kick field goals against TCU or a BCS bowl opponent … that is no good.

“2. Missed tackles”

I thought we did that much better as the game went on. Like everything on defense.

“The running game is OK, we just do it in reverse. We set up the run game with our passing!”

I sure hope so. This is what I was referring to by saying I hope this was gameplanning. Again, I hope it is true, and Martin is obviously capable. But … I’m wary.

As for the rest: agree 100 percent (and that WAS one hell of a hat).

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

I have never really liked Brotzman that much.. If Boise was up my a bunch of points (which was basically almost all the time) he would make a kick.. if he missed nobody remembers those.. HOWEVER whenever there is a clutch kick to be made.. he would miss A LOT of those. In last years game (of which we do not speak of), I was nervous about the first kick even before he missed it.. I did not shock me that he would miss it. Did not really like him much as a kicker.. but I did LOVE his punting though..

I do still think the game was closer than the score.

by East Coast Broncos Fan on Sep 17, 2011 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Three things are certain in life

Death, Taxes, Brotzman missing in a big spot.

by foryourhead on Sep 17, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kicking Game

Was that Charlie Brown kicking the ball with Lucy?

by fanofall on Sep 16, 2011 9:51 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

which is never the way to go.

BUT WAIT. The detailed benefits are not just your average dollars-under-the-table, or some lameass "we let some players sleep at an apartment on the floor with a coach's help" allegations. No, you get the hell out of here, Boise.
--EDSBS

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by Grindhouse on Sep 16, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bingo

rec’d

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Sep 16, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

bummed about the INT.

but can’t argue with the results.

BUT WAIT. The detailed benefits are not just your average dollars-under-the-table, or some lameass "we let some players sleep at an apartment on the floor with a coach's help" allegations. No, you get the hell out of here, Boise.
--EDSBS

Twitter: @damienbsu

by Grindhouse on Sep 16, 2011 9:53 PM PDT reply actions  

It seemed to me

That Kellen threw to a spot where he thought the TE would be at.. the TE didn’t get there in time.. probably got caught up at the LOS and threw the timing off..

by East Coast Broncos Fan on Sep 17, 2011 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I think the timing got off on that one some how. And it turned into a pick, it happens.

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by Broncograd96 on Sep 17, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

the outfit choice i didn't care for.

they need the white helmets more.

heck, they need the whole uni from the UGA game as their away gear. the orange pants were blechhh (to me) and that white helmet is too slick to not wear at all times.

BUT WAIT. The detailed benefits are not just your average dollars-under-the-table, or some lameass "we let some players sleep at an apartment on the floor with a coach's help" allegations. No, you get the hell out of here, Boise.
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by Grindhouse on Sep 16, 2011 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

agreed.

It’s like the time I upgraded from Winco cheese to Tillamook Baby loaf. You can’t go back without getting a bad taste in your mouth.
But I thought the orange pants were still great. just miss the helmets…

haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.
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by mc.hammertime on Sep 16, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Weren't those unis a one time deal?

I though they were a one-off due to the Nike agreement.

by Adkoon on Sep 16, 2011 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

they get to keep the unis and do with as they please.

they wore the same jerseys.

BUT WAIT. The detailed benefits are not just your average dollars-under-the-table, or some lameass "we let some players sleep at an apartment on the floor with a coach's help" allegations. No, you get the hell out of here, Boise.
--EDSBS

Twitter: @damienbsu

by Grindhouse on Sep 17, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

A Few Thoughts

1. Our tackling (especially the linebackers) was terrible for most of that game. I’m hoping the bye week had something to do with that.

2. Why did it take the defense so long to figure out that Toledo was going to throw LOTS of screen passes?

3. The wideouts made some nice catches but they also had quite a few drops. If Shoemaker isn’t catching TD’s he’s dropping passes..

4. Kellen is ridiculous.

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by Drofdarb23 on Sep 16, 2011 10:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh yeah..

5. Coach Pete’s comments on the kicking situation, “I’ve been doing this long enough to know when I shouldn’t say anything and I’ll just leave it at nothing.” As I tweeted – that’s hilarious and terrifying.

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by Drofdarb23 on Sep 16, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am with you on #1.

My thought was the bye week did not help with the tackling. You never know how that will go after a bye. Can’t wait untill Saturday on the blue I will bet tacking will be a lot better.

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by Broncograd96 on Sep 17, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coaches will nitpick, so I will too

Tackling was VERY poor tonight. Several times we had the guy corralled for losses or short gains and allowed them to slip through. I guarantee that will be a focus this week in practice. Don’t know why, but in the first half, it seemed to me like the Bronco D wasn’t playing very physical or aggressive. Luckily they changed things up in the 2nd half and played better. Kicking situation looks terrible right now…it can’t be too late to give Van Ginkel a shot, can it?

Doug is an absolute workhorse. He continues to wear down defenses running the ball even without busting long runs. The O-line run blocking could be a bit crisper…but still no sacks on Kellen, who sliced and diced the Rocket D.

by Drew Roberts on Sep 16, 2011 10:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Doing what?

Doug had like 250+ all-purpose yards, I think.

by Drew Roberts on Sep 16, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

he killed it on that screen pass. And returns and whatnot. He obviously rocks. But the rushing totals (and situations) were kinda meh, no? He was obviously doing a ton this game, but I’m unsure how much he was “wear[ing] down defenses running the ball”. But maybe I’m wrong.

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's why I said that he is a workhorse.

He grinds for yardage even without the O-line opening the lanes and it still has the effect of wearing down opposing Ds…even without getting big gains. Doug’s YPC is WAY down so far this year, but he’s a difference maker when in the game.

by Drew Roberts on Sep 16, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

true

I guess my problem/question is with the running game in general, not Doug Martin in particular. And he definitely opened up the play action. So, I suppose I stand corrected.

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It also has a psychological effect on the defense...

At least it did for me. Big plays happen. You try to minimize them, but they happen and you get back up and stuff it the next time. But when a guy can pound out a no-gain or even a one- or two-yard loss and turn it into 3 or 4 yards almost every time, it wears a defense down psychologically if not physically, too.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 16, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was looking for reserves on the Toledo D line...

but most of their first guys were in there in the 4th Qtr. They did indeed get worn down by the backs and the O line. Toledo stuffed Ohio State for most the game as well – Buckeyes ran for 115 yds total.

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State when they play the Chinese...maybe.

by HSridge on Sep 16, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he looked good

But the offensive line just didn’t seem to be blocking up to their normal standard or the Toledo D came in trying to stop the running game. Which makes about as much sense as pouring gas on yourself and then having a cigarette.

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by forseyfan36 on Sep 16, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the last two opponents have sold out to stop the run

I guess picking that poison is much tastier than the brand that Kellen serves up.

by Drew Roberts on Sep 16, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doug's screen ran for a TD was a crazy good run.

The first guy pretty much never takes him down. He brings the pain to the D. So I have to go with Workhorse.

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by Broncograd96 on Sep 17, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Toledo

kept their safeties deep and pushed LBs in to run protection. I agree that blocking could be crisper, but Toledo was determined to slow the run.

Doug (and DJ) have run hard without much room. These are the body blows to Kellen’s knockout punches. Gang tackling Doug for 3 quarters makes a defense want to quit in the 4th.

by ElPepeGrande on Sep 19, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I don't get a Blizzard, thanks to the kickers.

I picked the score to be 42-17. Missed extra points, really?

by bluebyeu on Sep 16, 2011 10:14 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

now that stinks!

How many games have 4 missed PAT’s? Sheesh.

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State when they play the Chinese...maybe.

by HSridge on Sep 16, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a similar issue with the Georgia game

had both teams just kicked (and made) one field goal, I would have had it!

by 4EverBleedBlue on Sep 17, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Two plays

Two stupid play calls killed great drives in the second quarter. The Kellen option and the Dallas reverse call. Both were just out of no where and dumb. Those two plays killed momentum and the drives stalled. Then with under 2 min to play in the half Pease calls a great series with no gimmick type plays and the result? TD. I think that other then those 2 plays Pease called a great game.

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by forseyfan36 on Sep 16, 2011 10:21 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

SO SAY WE ALL

I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.

by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Let Kellen do his thing when he has a great rhythm going. Both of those plays felt forced and out of character on those drives and they killed both of them.

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by forseyfan36 on Sep 16, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good call...

At one point I said to my son – I hope we got the goofy plays out of our system and can go back to just pounding it down the field…and sure enough, we did.

Fake field goal: Note to Pete – lining up for a 51 yarder when the first two PATs were missed and almost missed has zero credibility, but Southwick dang near pulled it off anyway.

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State when they play the Chinese...maybe.

by HSridge on Sep 16, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's almost like Pease saw Toledo doing it...

And decided, “Oh, Hell NO!!! You are not going to out-trickerate the masters of trickeration!”

Bad idea. Stick to Boise State football… which, contrary to popular belief outside of Boise State, is NOT trickeration.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 16, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree the Kellen option was terrible...

but the Dallas reverse was i think testing things out. If it would’ve gone for a td every1 would say brilliant call… Besides that it may be showing that play now with the reverse so other teams see it going forward and then instead of a reverse we throw them off.. i wouldn’t be surprised to see that in the future

by 84bsufan on Sep 17, 2011 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It just developed really slow

That play seemed uncharacteristically slow. I hope that they figure out a better way to run that reverse if they do run it again.

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by forseyfan36 on Sep 17, 2011 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

One thing:

Toledo may be best team in the MAC, and they seemed better for most of the game than UGA. So is the #1 MAC team better than #meh SEC?

I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.

by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 10:23 PM PDT reply actions  

If Toledo

doesn’t commit stupid penalties (last time) or stupid turnovers, (this time) I’d put them up against almost any team outside the top 10 or so. At least as a very good game to watch.

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

'Twas ugly, no doubt

The bye week had our guys forgetting important tackling fundamentals…but rolling up over 600 yards of offense on a pretty good squad shows what we can do.

by Drew Roberts on Sep 16, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just glad...

It was on Friday night and not Saturday and it probably didn’t have a huge tv audience. Hopefully voters will forget about it by the time the ballots are due and just check the box score. Thank God for that last TD by Boise.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 16, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best catch of the night?

Kirby’s
Shoe’s corner fade TD
Burroughs’ layout.

What say you?

by Drew Roberts on Sep 16, 2011 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Kirby

for the hair, if nothing else.

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both spectacular!

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by forseyfan36 on Sep 16, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

dug hat fade.

that ball hung up there FOREVER. only one possible outcome.

BUT WAIT. The detailed benefits are not just your average dollars-under-the-table, or some lameass "we let some players sleep at an apartment on the floor with a coach's help" allegations. No, you get the hell out of here, Boise.
--EDSBS

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by Grindhouse on Sep 16, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most crazy was the fade - from the tv, I had no idea who Kellen was throwing to

But I was most happy with Kirby’s

I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.

by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mitch...

because we will need those kinds of catches (deeper over the shoulder) if Geraldo doesn’t come back. Mitch almost nabbed one just like against Georgia.

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State when they play the Chinese...maybe.

by HSridge on Sep 16, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Burroughs' lay-out...

It was very reminiscent of the last second Titus catch against Nevada last year. Except the game wasn’t on the line at that point and Burroughs didn’t have to lay out for it but he did. The pass was nice but the catch was even better.

Kirby’s was second for the same reason, it just wasn’t quite as pretty as Burroughs’. And when his helmet flew off, I cringed… he and his brother are definitely cut from the same cloth, lol.

Not to take anything away from Shoemaker but that corner fade was an exceptional pass.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 16, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

On that first and 10 from the one with 99 to go

All I could think was Kellen to Potter for a 99 yard TD. Kellen should have just drawn one up in the dirt and called it Patriot or Brady.

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"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by forseyfan36 on Sep 16, 2011 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

I was thinking that too

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kellen looked like Brady tonight. Just diced the rockets up

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by forseyfan36 on Sep 16, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean

it’s not like we don’t have a white wide receiver who could take it all the way, amirite?

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too

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by Broncograd96 on Sep 17, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wes Welker x 5

We have a whole bunch of those Welker types, only most are bigger. It hought that sequence to get out of trouble there (one yard line) was very impressive.

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State when they play the Chinese...maybe.

by HSridge on Sep 16, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

How funny would that have been if Moore

Hit Potter or Mitch for 99?

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"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by forseyfan36 on Sep 17, 2011 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Knee-Jerking reactions..

Did anyone else poop their pants when the cut away to Kellen on the sideline having his knee looked at? When he landed and fell down it looked really bad.

by Jay Weston on Sep 16, 2011 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I was like

OH F….BWBWBW! But we got to find out who the actual backup is.

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"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by forseyfan36 on Sep 16, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

mhmmm

like i tweeted. I wanted to throw up.

BUT WAIT. The detailed benefits are not just your average dollars-under-the-table, or some lameass "we let some players sleep at an apartment on the floor with a coach's help" allegations. No, you get the hell out of here, Boise.
--EDSBS

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by Grindhouse on Sep 16, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was the first time

in a long while that I thought for a second that BSU might not get double digit wins for the year.

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

while i almost had a heart attack,

i did focus on Southwick going in and for a second i thought he might throw it… and the flip to Doug almost broke for a 1st.

by 84bsufan on Sep 17, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES YES YES YES YES

I am sort of worried about next year.. we Boise fans have been spoiled!

by East Coast Broncos Fan on Sep 17, 2011 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

sort of? sort of? OMG, I'm petrified.

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by boiseblues on Sep 17, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shoe's corner fade

banking it off the defenders grill and then catching it in one arm was epic.

UGA fans are eligible twice: once for the uniforms, and twice for the involuntary surgery at the hands of Dr. Kellen Moore.

by SWATTeamMentality on Sep 16, 2011 10:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Our final kickoff of the 1st half...

What was the reasoning? Was he trying to just kick it short so there would not be a return?

by Jay Weston on Sep 16, 2011 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

more

special teams awesomeness!

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was dumb - forgot about that.

9 year old son: “Dad, that was dumbest thing we have done in a long time.” Maybe Trevor just didn’t do it right? Hard to tell but a short field is a short field, whether earned or not.

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State when they play the Chinese...maybe.

by HSridge on Sep 16, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

A botched onside kick?

All of us were scratching our heads on that one.

by daddy18 on Sep 18, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Strange to say this, but...

I think Boldewijn is the member of the Dutch 3 that we are missing the least.

by Drew Roberts on Sep 16, 2011 10:43 PM PDT reply actions  

really?

We had some good long passes this game (as opposed to last), but it didn’t look like we were really stretching the field all that much …

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lou Holtz is keying on this now...

…the lack of a “game breaker” is how he put it tonight and that it would hurt us against a really good team. I think #11 is the game breaker, but I get Lou’s point.

the amazing thing is Kellen carves you up even when it is obvious what’s coming. Think about how the Georgia secondary handled Garcia and his great receivers except for the one broken play…and were helpless against Kellen, without a deep threat. KM is like molten lava – you might see it, but you can’t stop it.

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State when they play the Chinese...maybe.

by HSridge on Sep 16, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ya

The best part is, I don’t think we need a “game breaker” when Kellen is back there. He will beat you in any possible way. I think it would be easier on Kellen if we actually had a good deep threat, but its clear we don’t need one (in a NC game, though?)

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

so wait

More than Ricky Tjong-A-Tjoe (hope to god I spelled that right). How so?

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

He’s REALLY fast but i don’t think he’s that much faster than the guys who are playing. Also, I would say that Tyler, Kirby, Matt, and maybe even Burroughs, all have better hands. Not saying his are terrible, but I’d rather see the ball going to any one of those guys on a must have play than Boldewijn.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Sep 17, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, seemed a bit out of character but his experience is really showing

in the past I think that would have shaken him up and he probably wouldn’t have been able to do what he did.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Sep 18, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh also

Did anyone see/find a screengrab of Kirby Moore’s glorious hair during the game? My gf gets the computer when I sit in front of the tv and yell for several hours (so I can’t really follow the open thread).

by killtacular on Sep 16, 2011 10:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Hamster Screens
Doug Martin screen pass TD. Um, guys, that may have been the best screen pass score we will ever see. I hope you DVR’ed it.

I think his screen pass TD in the Nevada game last year was better. Both awesome.

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by D_Summit on Sep 16, 2011 10:50 PM PDT reply actions  

How did we lose that game?

/still bitter about that punt catch interference call

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by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the fact that Kellen has not been sacked yet this year.

Also Kellen has done a really good job of improving every year. He was good his Freshman year. Great his Sophomore. Unbelievable last year and so far this year he has been out of this world.

So far his Passing Efficiency Rating is 187.56 and he is completing 79% of his passes. About every 10 passing attempts he is finding the endzone. I don’t know how, but I can only see these stats go up as the season goes on.

by Jay Weston on Sep 16, 2011 11:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Final Thought

Kickers make me sad!

But I can’t be too bothered by defensive slips…..if our D was playing like last year, it would be hurting Kellen’s Heisman campaign. I want good D, obviously, but we need more 4th quarter Kellen if we hope to trump darling Luck!

by Cougarflounder on Sep 16, 2011 11:05 PM PDT reply actions  

So many things to say, so little time...

1) Kellen won the game. Thanks, KM.
2) Defense didn’t play anywhere near it’s potential for most of the game. Where they shined was in the red zone. That’s a good sign but the rest of the game wasn’t a good look for them.
3) I’m indifferent to the running game. On the one hand, Muscle Hamster isn’t producing like we know he can. Or DJ for that matter. On the other hand, he’s still getting much needed yardage and making plays out of nothing. He’s still the work horse and had a great game receiving as well, giving Moore even threats in the passing attack.
4) I’m concerned about the O-line. The pass protect is doing its job for the most part (0 sacks in 2 games is always a good thing) and only letting Moore get pressured here and there. They’re just not getting it done in the running game. I was impressed at the hustle of Michael Ames in getting to the second level on his block 10 yards downfield before Harper got there.
5) I see a huge improvement on Special Teams coverage. Page is a good returner like Boykin. He had one solid return tonight but all the rest were covered well.
6) The CBs give me pause for concern, too. Way too many blown coverages by them.
7) MISSED tackles and fundamental defensive footballs. The LBs might have been the guiltiest of all. Which is sad because they should be the ones breaking down and making EVERY tackle. And as bad as the defense played (definitely not to their potential) you also have to look at the leadership of the LBs.
8) Ok, let me lay off the defense because they’re still spectacular but they need to pull their heads out.
9) Punt/Kicking. Elkin’s not terrible. He’s just not that good either, especially at placement. Inside the 15 is great. But not when it’s a 30 yard punt… it should be inside the 5. I can’t even talk about Goodale right now.
10) Iloka and Febis made some good, heads-up plays and so did McLellan and Baker.
11) Time for some discipline training. Too many mistakes in the form of penalties.
12) Pease needs to stick to the game plan and stop trying to compete in the trickeration game.
13) Coach Pete obviously got in some a**es and fired them up at halftime. He did have a permascowl, but I can’t blame him. I have no doubt he’ll go home to his wife and kid and be all smiles. And because of that, I’m all smiles. I <3 Coach Pete.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 16, 2011 11:26 PM PDT reply actions  

"Punt/Kicking. Elkin’s not terrible. He’s just not that good either, especially at placement. Inside the 15 is great. But not when it’s a 30 yard punt… it should be inside the 5"

Elkin played pretty amazingly in the UGA game, and most of our punts tonight looked pretty good… I’d say he is pretty damn good this year…. and i will take a punt inside the 15 all year long… if that is the least of our worries then so be it…. also look at the 1 punt he kicked non-rugby and it bounced inside the 5

by 84bsufan on Sep 17, 2011 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think D was good on 1st and 2nd down

But WTH happend on 3rd down so often.

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by Broncograd96 on Sep 17, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Duckland, you are really hating on Goodale right now. Frisina missed too, you know…. Goodale was dead on for the Georgia games, and he and Frisina BOTH miss to the left during this game? Something has got to be going on here. But if you think it is so easy, let’s see you do it. Think you are in for a big surprise if you think it’s ‘easy’

by AZBro on Sep 17, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not hating on anybody...

And I was mistaken. You are correct, it was BOTH of them that missed PATs.

I’m not saying I can do any better. Then again, I’m not the one playing for Boise State either. Hmmmm…

On a semi-related note: Yes, I am harsh on Boise this game. They played like crap compared to what I/we all know they’re capable of. If Boise State was a perennially mediocre team, I would have said “Good job, boys! You played a helluva game!” Because Boise is Boise and we as long as they have a high standard and high expectations, we’re going to be hypercritical of their mistakes regardless of how big or small.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 18, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW...

You can just shorten my name to BIDL. I’m not too fond of it being just “DuckLand”… gives the wrong impression ;)

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 18, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

ugh

Gregg Doyel.

BUT WAIT. The detailed benefits are not just your average dollars-under-the-table, or some lameass "we let some players sleep at an apartment on the floor with a coach's help" allegations. No, you get the hell out of here, Boise.
--EDSBS

Twitter: @damienbsu

by Grindhouse on Sep 16, 2011 11:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn't disagree with a lot of that, even if the last sentence was douchey

But who cares – if the Broncos win all their games, it’s BCS bowl time.

I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.

by marktgarten on Sep 16, 2011 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

" what with Toledo committing two turnovers deep in the red zone"

—so Toledo committed those turnovers? we didn’t force them?

“needed a friendly review on instant replay to avoid losing a fumble at the goal line”
—the ruling on the field was that Kellen was down, so the replay officials upheld the correct call which the replay showed..

“Boise State has the offense of a national champion but the defense of a lower-level SEC team”
—-so hey guys we can play for the NC….

While this guy makes some valid points, he sure took a lot away from this 1 game…. I’m curious if he wrote something after the UGA game about our Defense… especially since SC gave up more to UGA than we did… unless he thinks SC is a lower level SEC team.

by 84bsufan on Sep 17, 2011 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

"Boise State has the offense of a national champion but the defense of a lower-level SEC team"

He MUST have only watched this game. Boise’s D is strong. As good as any SEC team. If South Carolina is the top of the SEC East and they gave up 42 against Georgia, then that speaks VERY well for Boise State.

Toledo has a powerful offense as well. He truly underestimated their ability to play football as much as he underestimates the Boise D.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 17, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

meh

both those turnovers were somewhat lucky. They were obviously forced by us, but recovering fumbles is luck, not skill, and similarly for intercepting batted passed.

by killtacular on Sep 17, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disagree...

Forcing a fumble is not luck. You could see him OBVIOUSLY stripping it out of his hands.

Batting the ball was not luck. McLellan made a great play and Baker made a great heads-up play to snag the ball before anybody else.

What’s a better red zone defense than to force turnovers? Red Zone trips usually mean scores, even if it’s only a field goal. Turnovers eliminates even that possibility. They were playing to take the ball away both of those times.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 18, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, yes

forcing fumbles is not luck. Recovering fumbles is. As I said. Same for the batted pass. So .. you are just agreeing with me?

by killtacular on Sep 19, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

MISSING!

APB out for Boise State Defensive Tackling.. last seen at or around Atlanta about 2 weeks ago!
I was very disappointed in Boise’s tackling.. Also, didn’t seem they were getting a lot of pressure on the QB, or any push on the O-line much during the game. Hope they get that fixed quick.. If they don’t improve on that.. they will have trouble against Air Force, poss San Diego State, and TCU..

by East Coast Broncos Fan on Sep 17, 2011 6:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I think our D-line could have been better

but I’ve got to give credit to Toledo’s O-line. They were a solid bunch.

by daddy18 on Sep 18, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kicking Game!

OK, so line up the entire team and find out who can kick.

We are in deep @@#$ with that part of the team.

by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Sep 17, 2011 6:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Coach Pete,

The only man who can stop Kellen Moore

"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by forseyfan36 on Sep 17, 2011 7:02 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

The award does not go to.......

The announcers on ESPN that cannot let black FRIDAY DIE~~ And the award also does not go to the piss poor officiating. If that style of MWC officiating continues, they have huge potential to cost us a game……………..

by bleeedingblueinwyoming on Sep 17, 2011 7:13 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought the announcers said it was a MAC crew.....

Speaking of officiating, I hate blaming the officials for anything, but the field goal at the end of the half was solely on the men in black and white. Not to take away from Page’s sideline catch (how the crap did he keep that right foot in-bounds!), but that play should have never happened. Just previous to that catch, Toledo threw a little dump off to the left that gained about 5 or 6 yards just after taking their last timeout of the half with 11 seconds remaining. Forgive me because I don’t remember who the Bronco defender was, but the receiver was hit in-bounds and knocked backwards and sideways, only going out-of-bounds after a step or two — forward progress had been stopped. The official stopped the clock at 7 seconds which allowed for the Page catch and subsequent FG. I only complain because these types of rulings/calls are unacceptable in my book.

So, stick that in your pipe and smoke it! :)

by LoneSausages on Sep 17, 2011 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

agreed........

the list of blunders from the circus crew we had officiating last night lis l o n g. . .. … The replay booth official (the phantom) was from the MAC. The idiots on the field (that put on a Circus Thursday night with elephants and clowns) were MWC officials.

by bleeedingblueinwyoming on Sep 17, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was surprised at how little the defensive line was able to get into the backfield last night.

They were much more disruptive against Georgia. They had their moments, but didn’t look near as dominating to me.

Boise is so efficient they are terrifying. If you have a weakness, they will find it, even if it takes them a quarter or two to size you up proper-like. The Anderson Silva of football offenses, if you will. - Spencer Hall, The Alphabetical Week 1, 2011

by Mikrino on Sep 17, 2011 7:39 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Running game, unis etc..

I’m not worried about the running because there were several times both Martin and Harper came close to break out big runs (couple of shoe string tackles). With regards to the old style helmets, I don’t like the look of them with our “new pro combat uniforms.” I feel our helmet selection should be limited to either the blue or white pro combat Bronco helmets only. They just look much better with the the unis IMHO. Furthermore, after watching our bismal kicking attempts, I feel it’s for the betterment of this program we should play Van Ginkle since he is the future kicker (star) for this team. He’s incredible and it’s worth some growing pains in the long run.

by tulsabronco on Sep 17, 2011 11:01 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Superman tackle!!

I loved the superman tackle by Root? Or was is it Crawford? Oh well, who cares- it was awesome!!

by tulsabronco on Sep 17, 2011 11:11 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

on the sack?

that was Crawford.

the one on the kickoff was Moss

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Sep 17, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Shameful

After a showing like that…I don’t think BSU and BCS should even be mentioned in the same sentence for quite some time. And as far as the kicking game goes, suit up Coach Pete, you couldn’t do any worse.

by Toddler68 on Sep 17, 2011 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

stirrin' the pot again, Toddler?

Funny, you refer to BSU as “you” in “you couldn’t do any worse”, and yet, OBNUG is the only listed blog for your Toddler68 name. So if “you” aren’t part of BSU, then from whence do you come?
Stats would be nice, to indicate the foundation upon which your statement of BCS and BSU is based.
Care to elabortate, Toddler?

"Boise State better never have to explain itself, prove itself or apologize for where it comes from to anybody ever again." Steve Greenberg TSN

by boiseblues on Sep 17, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be honest I agree...

with Boise and BCS not being mentioned in the same sentence. Then again, I don’t think “BCS” and “college football” should be mentioned in the same conversation either.

by BroncoInDuckLand on Sep 18, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe you should take a refresher in Reading Comprehension. The only “you” was in ref. to Coach Pete taking up kicking duties. Stats? Did you watch the same game I did? Without #11, that was a 10 point loss.

by Toddler68 on Sep 17, 2011 5:25 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

As far as stirrin’ the pot…apparently there is one born every minute, and you’re here all day, Sucker. Just kidding guys. I’m really not a D-Bag.

But, you have to admit. Last night’s game was far from impressive.

by Toddler68 on Sep 17, 2011 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

sucker? Sucker???? Does that make you the Suckee? I'm not "Just kidding guys".

You saying you are not a D-Bag does not make you not a D-Bag, any more than you saying you are Jimi Hendryx doesn’t make you Jimi Hendryx.
And without punctuation, it certainly seems you are not kidding women, just guys. So, I guess I can infer from your words you like toying with guys only. Not that there is anything wrong with that, just so that we understand where you “are coming from”.

Sorry, dear Obnugs. Toddler and sucker in the same sentence set me off.

"Boise State better never have to explain itself, prove itself or apologize for where it comes from to anybody ever again." Steve Greenberg TSN

by boiseblues on Sep 17, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

you can’t complain about someone’s punctuation when you misspell “Jimi Hendrix”

by killtacular on Sep 17, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

kill, my misspelling of Jimi's name did not impact your comprehension.

It may have thrown you off, but you still got it. Toddler left out critical punctuation which altered his meaning, or, perhaps did not leave out critical punctuation, who knows.
Was he “just kidding guys” or was he “just kidding, guys”? I know you see the difference.

I am not a spelling fanatic, unless the meaning is muddied, or as sometimes is the case, enriched to the point of being humorous. Speaking of humorous and word meanings, can you help me out with the meaning of “dude”? Is it similar to “all men are created equal”, sort of a collective humanity which includes males & females? Or is “dude” just referring to males? Those in the south have made use of “y’all” with success. Perhaps that is a generic term we here in the west and north should consider.
Toddler was not being humorous. Toddler called me a sucker, which was rude and uncalled for. Sucker really doesn’t have much room for nuance. I’m not sure dude does, either, but it is not offensive. It is merely unaware. Sucker is offensive.

Kill, anytime you want to have a discussion about words, their spellings, their meanings, and etymology, you have a ready participant right here. :)

"Boise State better never have to explain itself, prove itself or apologize for where it comes from to anybody ever again." Steve Greenberg TSN

by boiseblues on Sep 17, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

We won 40-15

And everyone’s bent out of shape. Why? Can’t we all just get a long?

by daddy18 on Sep 18, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

okay

that is quite reasonable. Still slightly miffed about the Jimi thing, but again, quite reasonable.

by killtacular on Sep 19, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOW! boiseblues needs to find a hobby.

And if you really want to know where I’m “coming from”…Start by asking your Mom.

Is there “anything wrong with that”, Sucker?

by Toddler68 on Sep 17, 2011 5:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Let me help you out friend, boiseblues ain't the gal you want a piece of.

Don’t start.

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Sep 17, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the heads up blue4areason.
But, I don’t recall asking for a piece of anything, boiseblues or otherwise.

by Toddler68 on Sep 17, 2011 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

What then, is your reason for calling me a sucker? Why would you disparage our coach and team, if not "for a piece"?

Please be specific, because as you noted, my reading comprehension skills may be suspect.

If you are not here “for a piece of anything”, then why would you come to OBNUG and spew insults? And why would you do this on the 3rd time you ever even write a comment on this site? You have been a member of OBNUG for two weeks and you deign to taunt?

"Boise State better never have to explain itself, prove itself or apologize for where it comes from to anybody ever again." Steve Greenberg TSN

by boiseblues on Sep 17, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for pointing out the spelling error Killtacular. Considering the forum, I let that one slide.
Not to mention, boiseblues diagnosis of my sexual orientation was nothing less than stunning. I’m sure the debate team misses him terribly.

Y’all take care now Ya hear?

by Toddler68 on Sep 17, 2011 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh, that is rich. rofl

Goodbye, Toddler, Goodbye. You’ve given me a good laugh, and for that, I thank you. lmao….:)

"Boise State better never have to explain itself, prove itself or apologize for where it comes from to anybody ever again." Steve Greenberg TSN

by boiseblues on Sep 17, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not insults. Just stating an opinion of what I deemed a sloppy performance…Compared to what we’ve been accustomed to. Gotta love free speech, Eh?

by Toddler68 on Sep 17, 2011 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

YM blues. Try not to take this crap so seriously. It’s only entertainment.
Take care. GO BIG BLUE!

by Toddler68 on Sep 17, 2011 10:52 PM PDT reply actions  

FWIW, I agree with your assessment of the game being sloppy.

as for the YM blues,…

let me share with you a little entertainment. I hope you enjoy reading this obnug post, because I enjoyed writing it.
http://www.obnug.com/2011/4/23/2129895/the-double-d-bra-gap-blitz-by-victorias-secret

"Boise State better never have to explain itself, prove itself or apologize for where it comes from to anybody ever again." Steve Greenberg TSN

by boiseblues on Sep 17, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's fun watching Kellen put up those kinds of numbers

But it also means we’re frighteningly one dimensional. I don’t want to be Houston or Hawaii.

by nerdglasses on Sep 17, 2011 11:16 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

My biggest concern.

The kicking adventures and the dropped passes that many have discussed here definitely need to be improved upon. However, I was very surprised, and quite concerned over the poor tackling of the Bronco’s defense. That was the worst display of tackling by our defense since the Fresno State game in 2009. If we were playing a team with more offensive consistency I likely wouldn’t have any fingernails left.

by Mountngrown on Sep 19, 2011 5:41 AM PDT reply actions  

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