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Final pregame thoughts on Boise State versus Toledo

As per my regular gameday ritual, I am deep in the throes of worry and hope and fear and xx about tonight's Boise State game. The comment thread for the Broncos-Rockets will open up at 4:00, and I'll be by afterward for a recap. But until then, nerves. Join me after the jump as I vent my feelings, and feel free to share your last-minute thoughts in the comments.

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What tonight's game will tell us ...

We'll learn a lot of things tonight (like how to neuter a spread offense), but what I'm most interested in finding out is this: how good is the 2011 Boise State football team?

Here's a theory I use: To find out whether a team is great or not, watch how they play against lesser competition.

Great teams destroy bad teams. I'm not saying that Toledo is bad, but I do think that Bronco fans feel the Rockets are a far inferior opponent. And for that reason, I believe that tonight will tell us more about how great this year's Bronco team is than the Georgia game told us. If Boise State blows Toledo out of the water, the Broncos are elite. If Boise State wins in a close one, the Broncos are still very good. If Toledo wins, Jesus has come back and you all better get your stuff together.

But don't take my word for it. The experts at Football Outsiders think a Bronco blowout would be a feat of strength, too.

The first two Friday night features have been spectacular games as well, so keep an eye on Boise State's trip to Toledo. The Rockets almost pulled off a major upset in Columbus last week and can keep this one within a couple of scores if they remain disciplined. Boise State won't get much poll credit if they thrash Toledo, but I'll be impressed if it gets completely out of hand in their favor.

Impressed, then bored. That's my kind of football.

I interrupt this column for a breaking news bulletin from former Bronco safety Gerald Alexander

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You may now resume normal reading.

X Factors for tonight's game, or things I have overlooked until now

Looking through the Toledo roster, I have a hard time digging up anyone who can be a difference-maker tonight other than the main characters - Eric Page, Adonis Thomas, Siamese QB twin Austin Terrance Dantin-Owens.

So how about looking at it from a new angle? Are there any players on the Boise State roster who might play the role of anthropomorphic self-destruct buttons? Safety was an option, until the NCAA freed Cedric Febis. I'll let reader FrmrBronco explain :

Toledo would be smart to put Page in the slot and work the deep middle of our D. If that's the case I hope Kwiatkowski and Yates aren't too proud to let Gavins man him up on occasion and put another DB on the outside (covering the X or Y)....Iloka and Ioane are going to have their work cut out for em.

Now this may all be moot since Febis traveled with the team to Ohio and, since he's been practicing all along, should be game-fit to start tonight. Crisis averted. Breathing resumed.

College Gameday asking questions it already knows the answer to

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Allow me to bogart some comments

OBNUG readers have as good a grasp on the Boise State football team as anyone, and here now are some choice comments from the week in OBNUG commenting.

From howiestheman

I'm in no way, shape or form overlooking Toledo (mostly cuz I watched last week's game), but i'm just not overly concerned. Having 12 days to recover is going to work hugely in our favor. I have all the faith in the world in our coaches and players.

Boise State's 12 days of rest compared to Toledo's six days will definitely be a factor. I imagine that Bronco players take a similar approach to tonight's game: Fully aware of Toledo's talent yet wholly confident in the Broncos' gameplan.

From smurfturfer:

I don't necessarily share the same confidence others share (over at half), but after watching Boise dispatch the Georgia Bulldogs, it is going to take a huge meltdown by Boise and a herculean effort by Toledo for Boise not to win. We will win by 17.

Follow-up by kcam:

"huge meltdown by boise" - Not gonna happen with Kellen. Not gonna happen with the D. I see Toledo getting some yards off their passing game. The running game? Guffaw. Take out the 80 yarder last game and the dawgs total running yardage was 51. Nota bene: Boykin will not be suiting up Fri.

I will give Toledo this: If the Rockets break off an 80-yarder against the Broncos, Toledo coach Tim Beckman will be smart enough to come back to the play over and over again until BSU stops it. 

From BSU Guru:

Yeah Toledo may be better this year, but so is Boise State.

I sure hope Guru's right. I think we'll know our answer by the fourth quarter tonight (and hopefully by halftime). To say that the 2011 team is better than the 2010 team is saying a lot.

From Kelly G.:

Dairy Queen would be the LAST place I would go for "good fast food".

Bulletin board material!

Miscellaneous

  • Coach Pete's favorite stats, according to Tom Scott: Turnover margin, pass efficiency rating, and sack margin. If the Broncos top the Rockets in all three tonight, I see no way that Toledo can win.
  • Here's a stat you will see at least once tonight: Toledo is 4-0 all-time versus Top 25 opponents at home.
  • Here's what the ESPN broadcast won't tell you about the above stat: It doesn't matter. Past performance does not necessarily predict future results. Also, correlation does not equal causation. And, a penny saved is a penny earned.
  • Is the city of Toledo really as stoked for this game as people say they are? The game wasn't even a sellout at mid-week, which is a shock for a well-respected team hosting the highest-ranked opponent in Glass Bowl history. Also, did you guys know there was a Star Wars Blu-Ray?

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  • I take comfort knowing that games like these are ones that Boise State usually dominates. We don't know how this year's team will respond in situations like this, but I'd say we have quite a body of evidence to feel confident.
  • Go Broncos!

Your turn

How are you feeling about tonight's game? Nervous? Confident? Think Boise State is a great team and will blow out the Rockets? Think my "great team" theory is bunk? Share your thoughts in the comments.

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D Line wreaks havoc

We will hear several D Lineman calling for havoc during the game. The looting and pillaging of the Rocket backfield will be brutal for all to see.

BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.

by Belexes on Sep 16, 2011 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

The only way the Rockets hang...

is the big play. Our D is too strong for sustained drives which keep the O off the field, so that means the Rockets need to hit the big plays like Georgia did. If the Rockets keep penalties and turnovers to a minimum and hit some big plays down the middle, it could get tense…

…until the brain trust figures it out and squashes it. Again, it is our ability to adjust and get inside the decision cycle of the enemy that gives us a tremendous advantage. Am wondering how much no huddle we might see?

With 2 of Toledo’s starting LB’s out…look for Hamster and Harper to run downhill all night. Kellen may have to lobby for a chance to throw more than 2 TD’s.

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State when they play the Chinese...maybe.

by HSridge on Sep 16, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know about you guys

but this bye week was excruciatingly long. I’m ready for some serious sandwich making. And I’m almost embarrassed to admit I kinda missed Team Gilmore/Tess calling a Bronco game.

We’re not losing to Boise freaking State. The rest of the country will thank us on Sunday for eliminating this perennial pretender from the outset. - Jman781

by Boise State of Mind on Sep 16, 2011 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I think Rod & Joe get a bad rap around here.

They are actually a pretty good duo. If BSU wasn’t constantly blowing teams out on Friday nights they wouldn’t have had to talk about their fantasy picks so much!

"Shiloh Keo got a MOUTHFUL of Doug Martin!" - Joe Tessitore
@D_Summit

by D_Summit on Sep 16, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I like Joe and Rod too

At least they seem to genuinely enjoy what they’re doing. I’ll take them over James and Palmer spewing the same jock cliches over and over any time.

by nerdglasses on Sep 16, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

They're good, but I recall something might have happened at the last Bronco game they called.

IDK, maybe it was just a nightmare.

We’re not losing to Boise freaking State. The rest of the country will thank us on Sunday for eliminating this perennial pretender from the outset. - Jman781

by Boise State of Mind on Sep 16, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe and Rod are fun

But I would take an all-star team of Mark Johnson and lil Davey Augusto any day.

by foryourhead on Sep 16, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I seriously hope that was sarcasm.

"Shiloh Keo got a MOUTHFUL of Doug Martin!" - Joe Tessitore
@D_Summit

by D_Summit on Sep 16, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember the "swinging gate?"

Its bbaaaaaccccckkkk! Toledo uses it.

Potter breaks one, lands in the top 5 of punt returners nationally.

Elkin carrying the hammer, right?

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State when they play the Chinese...maybe.

by HSridge on Sep 16, 2011 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

No, Percy with the Hammer

I believe the Hammer goes to special teams hit, not special teams play.

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Sep 16, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Toledo against ranked teams.
Here’s a stat you will see at least once tonight: Toledo is 4-0 all-time versus Top 25 opponents at home.

Fresno was ranked 25th in 2008 and went into the Glass bowl and won.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/2649/year/2008/toledo-rockets

by Jay Weston on Sep 16, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

In OT, though

They’ll give teams fits at times. The Broncos likely won’t be one of those teams.

by Drew Roberts on Sep 16, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct.

On both accounts. I was pointing out that their record was at least 4-1 at home against ranked opponents.

I still can’t believe that from 1935-2000 their were no ranked opponents in the glass bowl, but either way they seem to step up their game at home vs ranked opponents.

by Jay Weston on Sep 16, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ranked 25th in the AP but not ranked in the Coaches' Poll

Maybe it is a case of selective data in order to make statistics match the desired outcome.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Sep 16, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martin Manley Style

Boise is so efficient they are terrifying. If you have a weakness, they will find it, even if it takes them a quarter or two to size you up proper-like. The Anderson Silva of football offenses, if you will. - Spencer Hall, The Alphabetical Week 1, 2011

by Mikrino on Sep 16, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

We now have coined a phrase here for haters.

They write using the ’Martin Manley Style".

BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.

by Belexes on Sep 16, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're Welcome

Boise is so efficient they are terrifying. If you have a weakness, they will find it, even if it takes them a quarter or two to size you up proper-like. The Anderson Silva of football offenses, if you will. - Spencer Hall, The Alphabetical Week 1, 2011

by Mikrino on Sep 16, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especial since the BG win in 04

They used the Coaches poll (BG was not ranked in the AP poll when they played them).

by Jay Weston on Sep 16, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

My pre-game thoughts...

Happy that Chipotle is finally open so I can just grab burrito goodness and not have to be distracted during the game with something as paltry as finding sustenance for a very hungry, hard working husband who won’t be off work until Halftime.

If we could only have one Dutch player for this game, I’m happy it’s Febis. We needed some help on the corners v. Georgia, and Toledo has a big weapon at WR.

Doug looked good against Georgia. Imagine a team with a poor d-line. I expect to see a lot of the Muscle Hamster graphic in the game thread tonight.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE’RE WEARING. Hopefully white tops, blue Pro-Combat helmets, and the infamous Orange Pants.

If you aren’t following Gerald on twitter, you should be. He might be the best Smack Talker in Bronco Nation. Highly entertaining.

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Sep 16, 2011 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Wait ... Chipotle in Boise?

I agree with you RE: Febis being the key out of the three, especially having seen what Miller is capable of.

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Sep 16, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Across from the mall on Milwaukee, where Jack in the Box used to be.

/happy

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Sep 16, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

whoa

I need to go to there, I guess.

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Sep 16, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look for one coming to Broadway in the next year

They are working on securing a location close to the stadium right now.

/crosses streams; speaks of work on a personal place of fun.

by idaho_techsan on Sep 16, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Score!

Even closer to my house!

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Sep 16, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

bench.

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Sep 16, 2011 3:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Old Jack in the Box on Milwaukee

Out front of ToysRus. Just any FYI, carry on.

by idaho_techsan on Sep 16, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chipotle is on my "good things that happened today" list

Especially since I drive past it every day. The other things are the opening of a new Dutch Bros, the release of one of our Dutch Bros, and friends coming into town from Texas. A Bronco win will make this almost the perfect day.

by ninjamonkey1 on Sep 16, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone remember the Tulsa away game?

The score ended up 28-21 Boise (if i remember right), but the game wasn’t even as close as the score led to believe. I don’t think Toledo will score any points, but if they do, I’m fairly confident the score won’t reflect the dominance Boise will have in this game.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
"It takes no talent to give great effort." | "We’re not going to play to the outside noise." -- Chris Petersen
"[Kellen] Moore is a walking Staples® button." -- Ivan Maisel
"I’ve never seen a better prepared team than the Boise State Broncos and it was a privilege to watch them play." -- Lou Holtz

by Loque on Sep 16, 2011 1:23 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Georgia?

Isn’t that the same with Georgia’s 3 touchdowns? Boykin’s 80yd, and two pass touchdowns over the secondary? Three easy plays that made the game look closer than it really appeared.

by JALLMITCH on Sep 16, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember that game.

I was at that game, surrounded by OU fans that were rooting against Boise and not rooting for Tulsa. I really don’t like OU fans.

by ninjamonkey1 on Sep 16, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Gerald Alexander's tweets.

He’ll be talking all night if Boise State blows them out.

Boise is so efficient they are terrifying. If you have a weakness, they will find it, even if it takes them a quarter or two to size you up proper-like. The Anderson Silva of football offenses, if you will. - Spencer Hall, The Alphabetical Week 1, 2011

by Mikrino on Sep 16, 2011 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

toledo is providing special pre-game and half-time fireworks.

boise state will provide the fireworks during the game.

This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.

by joe bob priddy on Sep 16, 2011 1:53 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

rec'd for awesome-ness-osity

Boise is so efficient they are terrifying. If you have a weakness, they will find it, even if it takes them a quarter or two to size you up proper-like. The Anderson Silva of football offenses, if you will. - Spencer Hall, The Alphabetical Week 1, 2011

by Mikrino on Sep 16, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

flagged

Boise is so efficient they are terrifying. If you have a weakness, they will find it, even if it takes them a quarter or two to size you up proper-like. The Anderson Silva of football offenses, if you will. - Spencer Hall, The Alphabetical Week 1, 2011

by Mikrino on Sep 16, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY

I thought coach pete said no no to tweeting!…………..mmhmmm

"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- WG#99

by BustersBroncosBustsBCS on Sep 16, 2011 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

seeing as how you stole my comment and my thoughts on tonight's game are already above for all to see...

i’ll use this space to bring us some good luck.

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Sep 16, 2011 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

ooooohhhhh Howie! You've made my day! A blizzard and football.

That looks delicious. It’s 5:29…I think I have just enough time.

"Boise State better never have to explain itself, prove itself or apologize for where it comes from to anybody ever again." Steve Greenberg TSN

by boiseblues on Sep 16, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

So on 670 pregame today

they said that the Starting CB that is hurt for Toledo. The Guy that is going to replace him is a true frosh that was going to Grey shirt this year. I can see Kellen going to that side a lot. Talk about jumping into the fire with both feet.

"Every Damn Day."- Coach Pete
....."The future belongs to those who prepare for it today..." TODAY IS THE TOMORROW THAT I EARNED YESTERDAY!!!! LEGGGOOO.....{E.A.T.}
Elevate at All Times"-George Iloka

by Broncograd96 on Sep 16, 2011 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

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