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Boise State depth chart versus Georgia: Mitch Burroughs starts, Matt Miller surprises, and other chaos

Boise State's official depth chart for the Georgia game has been released, and it is a doozy. Mitch Burroughs in places you wouldn't expect to find Mitch Burroughs. Matt Miller in the starting lineup as far as the state of Montana is concerned. Jake Broyles is starting at guard (allegedly). No one is starting at kicker. It's a mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad depth chart.

Join me after the jump for some depth chart analysis, and share your thoughts in the comments about what it all means. Does it mean anything? Does it mean everything? Let's discuss.

Star-divide

Visit the BroncoSports website for the full pdf of the depth chart. You can also find a detailed roster and, if you're really wanting to kill an hour, the team's weekly notes

Bold = Starter

Italics = Depth chart change

Wingdings = Secret Mayan decoder message

OFFENSE
Qb_medium Rb_medium Fb_medium
Kellen Moore Doug Martin Dan Paul
Joe Southwick OR D.J. Harper Chandler Koch
Grant Hedrick
 
Z_medium X_medium H_medium Te_medium
Mitch Burroughs Matt Miller OR Tyler Shoemaker Kyle Efaw OR
Chris Potter Geraldo Boldewijn Kirby Moore Gabe Linehan
 Aaron Burks     Kyle Sosnowski
Lt_medium Lg_medium C_medium Rg_medium Rt_medium
Nate Potter Joe Kellogg Thomas Byrd Jake Broyles Charles Leno
Faraji Wright Spencer Gerke Matt Paradis Chuck Hayes Michael Ames
***
DEFENSE
E_medium T_medium N_medium E_medium
Tyrone Crawford OR Billy Winn Chase Baker Shea McClellin OR
Jarrell Root Ricky Tjong-A-Tjoe Mike Atkinson Jarrell Root
Mlb_medium Wlb_medium
Byron Hout OR Aaron Tevis OR
Tommy Smith J.C. Percy
Cb_medium N_medium S_medium S_medium Cb_medium
Jamar Taylor Hunter White OR Cedric Febis George Iloka Jerrell Gavins
Quaylon Ewing-Burton Jonathan Brown Jeremy Ioane Travis Stanaway Bryan Douglas
  Dextrell Simmons      
***
SPECIAL TEAMS
Pk_medium Ko_medium Hd_medium P_medium Snp_medium
Dan Goodale OR Trevor Harman Joe Southwick Brad Elkin  Chris Roberson
Michael Frisina Dan Goodale  Trevor Harman  
Kr_medium Pr_medium
Mitch Burroughs OR Chris Potter
Chris Potter Mitch Burroughs
Doug Martin
D.J. Harper

Disclaimer: Depth charts mean as much as you want them to mean. Keep in mind that things change over the course of a game week and that game situations, injuries, and performance will render some of this depth chart moot. Still, it's fun to speculate ... with hyperbole! Mitch Burroughs is cowboying Kellen Moore's spotlight!

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Mitch Burroughs is king of the world! And king of the depth chart!

For my money, the biggest surprise on Boise State's depth chart was the Mitch Burroughs Experience finding a place in the starting lineup ahead of Tyler Shoemaker in the wide receiver spot previously held by Austin Pettis. I have a few theories on this, none of which have yet to convince me this is something other than a late-night-salsa-induced dream. 

Theory No. 1: Tyler Shoemaker's skills are better served at slot receiver. What those skills are and why they wouldn't transfer to the outside are beyond me. It could be that Shoemaker has trouble getting off bump-and-run coverage, his frame and athleticism are better served in the middle of the field, or he hates change. 

Theory No. 2: Mitch Burroughs had an incredible Fall Camp. It's entirely possible that Burroughs simply beat Shoemaker for the starting spot on the outside. He had a good Fall Camp from the way it sounded, and he has lots of experience in the Bronco offense. But man, what an upset that would be. The depth chart has made us roadies on the Mitch Burroughs Experience World Tour. Next stop: Hotlanta!

Theory No. 3: Tyler Shoemaker did not have a very good Fall Camp. Neither did Kirby Moore or Chris Potter, apparently.

Theory No. 4: You tell me. I'm out of theories. 

More Mitch Burroughs in places you might not have expected

Doug Martin and D.J. Harper are taking a back seat to Burroughs and Chris Potter in the kick return game on Saturday. This may be a measure to keep D-Mart and D-Harp fresh, or it could mean that Boise State has been keeping BurrPott hidden away as a secret weapon all these years, like nanotechnology in that G.I. Joe movie. I'm hoping for the latter.

The Matt Miller era is upon us. Rejoice, Montanans!

The former Mr. Montana and current Achilles rehabber Matt Miller made headlines in his home state and caused oohs and aahs in the OBNUG offices by earning a shared starting role with Geraldo Boldewijn, everyone's favorite new receiver. Well now who's supposed to be our favorite new receiver? This is all so confusing.

Miller had a great Fall Camp, which surprised a lot of people since he was still coming off an Achilles injury. Now he figures to see a lot of playing time Saturday night in the biggest (and first) game of his college career. 

Of course, I can't help but wonder: Is Geraldo Boldewijn sharing the starting spot because of something Boldewijn failed to do or because of something Matt Miller did do? Discuss amongst yourselves. I'm still verklempt from that Mitch Burroughs thing.

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I shall call him Stud

Chadd Cripe took a guess at the projected depth chart on Sunday (more below), and of particular interest was his calling Shea McClellin's defensive end position "Stud." 

Now, this may mean nothing, especially since the official depth chart had McClellin listed at the SE position (which I take to mean Strongside End). Or it could mean that we'll see McClellin and McClellin's backup in both a three-point stance and a stand-up stance at varying times throughout the game. The Stud could be the new Nickel - a hybrid DE/LB demon from hell and part of Boise State's slow conversion to a 3-3-5 front. Here's hoping.

True freshman watch: Blake Renaud, Tyler Horn, Jay Ajayi, and more Burroughses 

Though no true frosh show up on the two-deep depth chart, Coach Pete has promised that defensive end Tyler Horn will play (as the fourth defensive end, presumably) and linebacker Blake Renaud will play (as the fifth linebacker, one would assume) and wide receiver Dallas Burroughs will likely play. Here's hoping the Burroughs family splurged for The Mtn channels this year.

The Burroughs inclusion is most interesting to me because it's interesting to predict how he'll be used. If Boise State wants to burn his redshirt, they have plans to make it worth it. Will we see Burroughs in the slot? Maybe on special teams? Maybe in special Dallas Burroughs packages? 

Other freshman we may see on Saturday include running back Jay Ajayi, nickel Corey Bell, and safety Lee Hightower. The jersey numbers for these newbies are as follows:

  • Tyler Horn - No. 69
  • Blake Renaud - No. 13
  • Dallas Burroughs - No. 81
  • Jay Ajayi - No. 27
  • Corey Bell - No. 38
  • Lee Hightower - No. 29

Jake Broyles starting at right guard

Ha! Just kidding. Boise State still hasn't decided who its starting right guard will be. The depth chart totally had you going on that one.

Frisina - Goodale kicking battle still too close to call

Michael Frisina is the more accurate of the two, hitting anything and everything inside of 42 yards. Dan Goodale has the stronger leg of the two, hitting from outside of 42 yards and chipping in on kickoffs should anything bad happen to Trevor Harman. Oh, if only science had evolved to the point where we could merge two humans into one. What have you been doing with your time, scientists? Quit working on Coke Zero!

 

Kyle Efaw feeling skinny and other observations from Boise State's latest weight change

Updated weights have been spotted on the Boise State online roster, so I did what any good Bronco fan would do and entered all the new weights into a spreadsheet, compared them to the old weights (as of August 18), and came up with this fancy little Google Doc

The man with the most weight lost was DT Greg Grimes who went from 288 pounds to 268 pounds. Faraji Wright was right behind with a drop from 291 to 275, and Kyle Efaw lost 15 pounds, from 242 to 227. Among the biggest weight-gainers was new starting right tackle Charles Leno who gained 16 pounds and is now up to 294. 

Of note, Boise State has seven players over 300 pounds, topped by offensive lineman Adam Sheffield at 313. By comparison, Georgia has 16 players who are 300 pounds and up, led by defensive tackles Jonathan Jenkins and Kwame Geathers who each go 350 or better. That's just too much person, if you ask me.

The injured list

Boise State will be without the services of the following players for the Georgia game. 

  • CB Ebo Makinde (chest) - weeks
  • RB Malcolm Johnson (ACL) - season

Record watch

As is their wont, several Boise State players are on the precipice of team records. Here is the latest update on their pursuit of greatness:

  • Kellen Moore needs eight wins to pass Colt McCoy as college football's all-time winningest quarterback.
  • Doug Martin needs 41 yards to pass Jon Francis for eighth on Boise State's all-time rushing list. He needs 139 to pass David Mikell for seventh.
  • Martin needs two touchdowns to pass Don Hutt and Jared Zabransky for ninth place on Boise State's all-time touchdown list.

Miscellaneous

  • Chadd Cripe tried predicting the depth chart on Sunday, and he ended up missing on only four spots. Don't worry, Chadd. No one saw the Burroughs thing coming.
  • Just as it was with the pre-fall depth chart, Jarrell Root is listed as the OR defensive end alongside both Shea McClellin and Tyrone Crawford. Speaking of ORs ...
  • ... I hope you like 'em because the depth chart is stacked with conjunctions. There are ORs at nine different positions - backup quarterback, wide receiver, tight end, defensive end, both linebackers (naturally), nickel, kicker, and kickoff returner.
  • Probably shouldn't be reading into this that much, but it's nice to see Gabe Linehan putting his mark on the roster with a time-share with Kyle Efaw at tight end. He's totally going to win Mountain West Player of the Year! (Sorry, getting ahead of myself.)
  • Boise State 2012 quarterback competition update: Joe Southwick and Grant Hedrick are tied. Discuss.
  • Raise your hand if you thought Boise State would have four kickers on its two-deep depth chart and none of them would be Jake Van Ginkel. 
  • As much as I like to joke around about Mitch Burroughs, I really do feel all right that the coaches have him in the starting lineup. The coaches know best, and they have far better of an idea what's going on with this team than I do. Burroughs showed some flashes last year, and I have no reason to think that he hasn't kept improving all offseason. There. I feel far less guilty now. 

Your turn

What do you make of Mitch Burroughs in the starting lineup? What does the Matt Miller - Geraldo Boldewijn job share say to you? Any other surprises you discussed with your significant other last night? Share your thoughts in the comments.

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Geraldo's hands have always been a little shaky

I think Miller will be used as the possession guy and when they want to try to stretch the field, they’ll put Boldewijn in. Also, I think there will be so much shuffling at the WR spot this year, that the starting spots almost won’t mean anything. I’m glad to see Linehan put on some weight. Blake Renaud is officially our biggest linebacker now too…by 2 lbs, but still for a true freshmen to come in as the biggest linebacker we have is exciting. P.S. I’d still take Byron Hout in a fight.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 30, 2011 8:09 AM PDT reply actions  

With that glass jaw?

(Sorry. I couldn’t help it.)

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Aug 30, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should have said

I would take Hout in a fair fight. We all know he can’t handle a sucker punch, but then again, who can. And maybe he can handle a sucker punch because I imagine that same punch would have had a wuss like me in the hospital. haha!

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 30, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point about Boldewijn's hands

Dropped passes was a problem in camp, so that very well could be a factor in the lineup.

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 30, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

The kid has been under a ton of pressure this off-season

Every news outlet and blogger has tabbed him as “THE” guy to replace Titus Young and Austin Pettis. That is a lot to expect of such a green player. You know Geraldo had to hear all the press. It could be that all the hype has started to affect his game. Miller has had no hype (other than Bronco Nation and the State of Montana) so he has been able to fly under the radar and improve his game. Hopefully Geraldo can relax and just play his game and ignore all the outside noise.

"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." -- Dan Hawkins

by smurfturfer on Aug 30, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Think of the possibilities

Last year was hard for defenses to prepare for the WRs because Pettis and Young were so good. I don’t know that this year will be any easier. Teams aren’t going to know who to prepare for and Bronco coaches are masters at mixing things up and getting the right match ups. There are so many combinations the coaches can use at WR they’ll get good match ups. Plus there may be less pressure on them as individuals since there are so many more of them this year.

"All we can do is win the games on our schedule" - Coach Pete

by givemesomemoore on Aug 30, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weight Changes - Kellen Moore

Moore is even ridiculously consistent in weight fluxing! He didn’t change by a pound over this past year. Sweet spreadsheet guys.

by BSUbluNorange on Aug 30, 2011 8:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Can't wait for Saturday....

I’m really suprised Shoemaker is going to playing the slot again. As for the rest, we knew that Burroughs, Kirby, Shoemaker, and Boldewijn would all see the field. Miller as a split starter is a nice suprise.
Dissapointed that Van Ginkel did not rip the kicking job.
Pumped too see Renaud and Ioane on special teams.

Can the season just please start….. I want to see our ridiculuos DLine in Georgia’s backfield already.

Boise State is 38-2 in my 3 years of college.

by warriorsscore110 on Aug 30, 2011 8:18 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I think

Shoe has a better feel for the slot, maybe Miller has half a step off the line and can get out of the coverage easier than Shoe. I think Shoe belongs in the slot. He was so fluid last year when teams sat in coverage against us.

by hatemay on Aug 30, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Potter

156lbs?!?!….uh, it’s called Whey Protein brother.

by weezerten on Aug 30, 2011 8:29 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Can that be right?

He weighs less than a 5-5 kicker.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Aug 30, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope that Burroughs has a breakout year.

After his strong start last year, I had put aside his troubles from his freshman year and “The Experience” became a compliment in my mind. The injury seemed to derail him a little bit, especially since Potter also excelled in the punt return game.

I expect there be a heavy rotation at WR with different packages sent in based on down & distance.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Aug 30, 2011 8:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Mitch a starter...

Made me think that Boise coaches have game planned for the first few series against Georgia and Mitch knows those packages better than other options. I am thinking Mitch probably reads defense a little better because his experience and maybe a hurry-up offense to start the game against Georgia…. we know Mitch does this well and found the open spots at the end of the game against VT last year. Just a thought to explain the starter role; but for the most part I think the WR spots are interchangeable.

Our quarterback goes to 11 !

by flyfishferg on Aug 30, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ohhh, hurry up offense.

DO IT FOR COACH KINSEY!

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Aug 30, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That makes a lot of sense

We’ll see how it all goes.

Petersen did say it would be WR by committee. I can’t really say I’ve ever been comfortable with a phrase like that except at the RB position but BSU has done well with it before.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Aug 30, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trumpets and violins I can-uh, hear in the distance
I think they’re callin’ our name
Maybe now you can’t hear them,
but you will, ha-ha, if you just
take hold of my hand
Ohhh, but are you experienced?
Have you ever been experienced?

by ce'sped azul on Aug 30, 2011 8:52 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

rec'd. I love bee tornadoes.

In other words, Boise could wear pink-on-pink and still beat you in Bronco Stadium by 30 points. The Broncos could wear pink-on-pink with ankle weights and beat you 14 points. - Paul Myerberg, Pre Snap Read

by Mikrino on Aug 30, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate bee tornadoes!

That sounds terrifying. Hence, rec’d.

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Aug 30, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha! Rec'd

Is it counterintuitive to root for both Boise State and the Yankees?

by NYBroncosFan on Aug 30, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Green!

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Aug 30, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

I didn’t think I could laugh that hard this early in the day

by daddy18 on Aug 30, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

can't. stop. watching.

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Aug 30, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not a huge fan of the 3-3-5

I think it’s a lot like Oregon’s offense. It’ll win in your league but once you face a different team makeup it can really fall apart.

Richrod ran the 3-3-5 at Michigan and they got trampled. When Brady Hoke got there the first thing he did was convert them back to a 4-3 despite the fact he ran a 3-3-5 at SDSU.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Aug 30, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huge difference

We’ve been working towards tweaking our D since our loss to TCU in the Poinsettia Bowl. Rich Rod came in and tried to tweak everything over night. On both sides of the ball I might add. If we do go to a 3-3-5 it’ll be for the best. Have faith.

by daddy18 on Aug 30, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am definitely opposed to a 3-3-5 the way New Mexico State et al used to run it

Boise State evolves and adapts much more carefully. They do it based on necessity and personnel. Others do it because that’s the way they’ve always done it.

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 30, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Boise State also seems to have more of a hybrid 3-3-5. Their base is actually a 4-2-5 and the Nickel drops into a 4-3 often. As well as a Lineman dropping back as a stand up backer into the 3-3-5. I think the Broncos have adpated their recruiting to fit multiple positions through out. When you watch against opponents in the spread the go 3-3-5, but against more traditonal offense like Fresno State they stay with the 4-2-5 and the nickel play more forward than in other scenarios. At least that’s what I’ve noticed. Which means next to nothing.

In other words, Boise could wear pink-on-pink and still beat you in Bronco Stadium by 30 points. The Broncos could wear pink-on-pink with ankle weights and beat you 14 points. - Paul Myerberg, Pre Snap Read

by Mikrino on Aug 30, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

presnap shifts

Give opposing QBs a dumb look on their face.

Hello Masoli and Dalton! I’m looking at you!!

by ElPepeGrande on Aug 30, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to Coach Richt we play a 4-3 and 3-4
"The 4-3 is their base defense, but they will get into a 3-4 look when they begin to play more of the spread set. It’s a lot like what other people do across the country. They have an outstanding linebacking corps. I know Tommy Smith is a Georgia boy from North Atlanta High School. He is going to get an opportunity to possibly start. Either he or (Byron) Hout will start at the "mike linebacker." Their safety is (George) Iloka, he led the team in tackles last year with 63 on the perimeter and does a great job.

Should this make me feel better or is it just semantics? Personally I think our nickel is more DB than LB but maybe not the way Georgia looks at it.

by ce'sped azul on Aug 30, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

A 4-2-5 is a 4-3 ...

… if you count the Nickel as a linebacker. So yeah, semantics.

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 31, 2011 5:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm learning to de-emphasize the numbers - for 2 reasons.

(1) With offenses being so multiple, defenses play lots of different formations. UGA spent less than half of last year in a true 3-4. We played 4-3 a good bit and our nickel is 4-2-5.

(2) The numbers are misleading because they are darn abstract. There’s not that much difference between a 3-4 and a 4-3 if both systems play 1-gap defense and use a speedy pass-rusher with his hand on the ground. Calling that guy a LB or a DE matters to Plato but not really anybody else. Both defenses will adjust to leverage and adapt to what the offense shows.

Installing a system is primarily a way to conceptualize a defense. A defense running different concepts may actually line up in identical positions to a D with different concepts.

The changes start to matter when you assign multiple gaps to certain defenders. A 2-gap 3-4 is different than a 4-3, but most 3-4 teams don’t run true 2-gap defense. Ours (and Alabama’s, Clemson’s, and pretty much every NFL team’s) is a hybrid scheme where some defenders have multiple gap assignments on certain plays. Changes also get manifested when 3-4 OLBs start having increased coverage responsibilities. It’s really rare for a DE to drop out in coverage, but (at least as a conceptual matter) it is less rare for an OLB to get out there.

Sorry for the long post.

by first and thom on Aug 31, 2011 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Flagged for length.

In other words, Boise could wear pink-on-pink and still beat you in Bronco Stadium by 30 points. The Broncos could wear pink-on-pink with ankle weights and beat you 14 points. - Paul Myerberg, Pre Snap Read

by Mikrino on Aug 31, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flagged for shortness.

In other words, Boise could wear pink-on-pink and still beat you in Bronco Stadium by 30 points. The Broncos could wear pink-on-pink with ankle weights and beat you 14 points. - Paul Myerberg, Pre Snap Read

by Mikrino on Aug 31, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flagged for flagged for shortness.

And then self-flagged for repetiveness and redundancy. As well as redundancy.

by first and thom on Aug 31, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our D is no being run by Greg Robinson either

Just say no to GERG.

/this message brought to you be the people that brought you, Craig James (allegedly) killed 5 hookers while at SMU.

by idaho_techsan on Aug 30, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Craig James (allegedly) killed 5 hookers while at SMU."

They were Thai boys.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 30, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

by allegedly

you mean it could have been 6 or 7?

by ElPepeGrande on Aug 30, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once you get past 2 or 3

who really keeps count any more?

by idaho_techsan on Aug 30, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great analysis

I hope you’re right.

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 30, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Recruits are getting taller

and they carry the weight better too.

The size of the D front is very noticable. Watch the game at Oregon and see how much bigger we were the next year—and now. The first TCU game vs the Fiesta bowl was the same way—the D front stops the run without blitzing.

Depth is crazy too. Our backup D line is bigger than the line that started at Autzen by a ton.

And next year’s commits are pushing the bar even higher.

by ElPepeGrande on Aug 30, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm actually kind of excited about the WRs

We have some big physical guys in Shoe, Moore, and Miller to go with the speedsters. Should be a nice mix.

by nerdglasses on Aug 30, 2011 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm going to agree

We’ve got a fantastic crew at receiver, its just a bit different from last year. Rather than having 2 extremely strong receivers that teams could keen in on (which never really seemed to work), we’ve got a hodgepodge of guys ranging from short and fast to tall and physical…I’m a fan.

by scrappymcfiesty on Aug 30, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

ORs Drive me crazy

How is it possible that McClellin is an “OR”?
How is it possible that Hout is an “OR”?
Can we choose a frickin’ kicker already?

I know, I know: Everyone rotates in and out, Petersen thinks depth charts are stupid, and coaches want to give credit to players who had a good camp, but what about MY needs?

Is it counterintuitive to root for both Boise State and the Yankees?

by NYBroncosFan on Aug 30, 2011 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

I get the McClellin OR

but only because Crawford has the same OR after his name but the Hout OR is strange to me. But hey, hopefully Tommy Smith really is that close to Hout’s skill level.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 30, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

when you play two deep

you get lots of ORs. Plus, when the SRs leave, you will be glad that younger guys got to play more.

by ElPepeGrande on Aug 30, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since when is

Geraldo Hiwat Geraldo Boldewign? How did I miss that? :)

Also, did I miss the pick’em post somehow (haven’t had electricity the past few days), or is that still coming? Or not happening this year?

by killtacular on Aug 30, 2011 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Grats on getting the lights turned back on. That's always a pain when it happens...

you start realizing how boring life was back in the 1800s and how Abe Lincoln nearly drove himself blind reading by the firelight :p

Geraldo changed his name in early July I think. It was his mother’s maiden name.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Aug 30, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

My lights are still out!

Lost them Saturday night due to Hurricane/Tropical Storm Irene. Might be back on by Thursday. Ech.

Is it counterintuitive to root for both Boise State and the Yankees?

by NYBroncosFan on Aug 30, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good Lord man, I hope all is okay w/ everyone up there

I didn’t take in your name and all so it didn’t click.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Aug 30, 2011 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

ugh

We were without power from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday afternoon because of Irene, so that sucks, but nowhere near as much for you. Sympathies.

by killtacular on Aug 31, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

huh

No kidding. The first day wasn’t SO bad, but the next day started really getting on my nerves.

Interesting re: Geraldo, thanks for the info.

by killtacular on Aug 31, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pick Em went up at 11:00 today

Welcome back, electricity.

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 30, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

This game is going to be a terrific series of matchups

I’ll admit, I have concerns when it comes to the disparity in sheer size. It’ll be nice to see how we scheme against that and how we hold up for 4 qtrs.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Aug 30, 2011 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

If Boise gets the ball first

I think the first offensive series is going to be hurry up, fast quick re sets.. multiple subs.. and movements.
The chess match between the Dawg Defense and the Boise Offense is going to be fun to watch.

At this point , I feel size, speed, and coaching doesn`t matter.. you guys have proved it with teams you have beaten and UCF well, they damn sure proved it in that abomination of a bowl game last year.

plain and simple.. it`s who is going to want it more once the ball is kicked off.

by JaxDawg on Aug 30, 2011 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

With out any sarcasm

Good luck to Geogia and all of their fans who’ve been very gracious for the most part. Can’t wait ’til Saturday. GO BRONCOS!

by daddy18 on Aug 30, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

No huddle

is faster without subbing.

I wonder if Kellen will find a defensive group he likes, and then nohuddle to try and prevent subs.

by ElPepeGrande on Aug 30, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coach Pete has already said it

He hates depth charts and having to say who’s starting where. I know it makes for a good read and a topic for conversation but BSU plays so many players in so many different sets that it really doesn’t matter what the “official” depth chart is. The player of the game on Saturday could be Big Mike Atkinson, Doug Martin, Gabe Linehan, JC Percy or Chris Potter ( It’ll probably be Kellen but that’s not the point). We use our entire team as a team. That’s why our Broncos have been so succesful.

by daddy18 on Aug 30, 2011 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

No, it's good

You know exorcising demons and such.

Is it counterintuitive to root for both Boise State and the Yankees?

by NYBroncosFan on Aug 30, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or is it...

Is it counterintuitive to root for both Boise State and the Yankees?

by NYBroncosFan on Aug 30, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bad juju.....

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Aug 30, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, this is pretty much UGa's best chance to actually destroy a man's existence I R L.

If they win, Z will catch an irrational amount of hate for it I’m sure.

If I were UGa I’d buy a Monday Morning copy of the Statesman, frame it, and hang it in muy trophy hall. It’ll be that bad.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Aug 30, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

Mitch had a great catch in the fall scrimmage along the east side line where the defender (gavins?) had great position, and Mitch adjusted to the ball, did a little swim move around the defender, and caught the ball for a big gain. I was impressed at how quick he adjusted to the ball and didn’t push the corner…
So I have faith in the coaches.

I tend to get into trouble telling everyone to "say hello to my little friend!!"

by S-car-face on Aug 30, 2011 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

That makes me feel good

Mitch definitely had some good moments last year, so here’s hoping there are more to come this season.

"Body!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 30, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

maybe he's always been able to get open

and his hands have been his weakness. i remember dropped/busted bubble screens and a dropped deep ball in the spring game of 2010. so maybe that’s what he’s done differently…stopped dropping balls!

I tend to get into trouble telling everyone to "say hello to my little friend!!"

by S-car-face on Aug 30, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

where is

Jake Hess at FB? He got playing time last year. Did he leave? Lose his spot on the roster???? Burroughs did a good job on punt return last year. I think the coaches will use him running the outs and bubble screens this year and let the taller receivers stretch the field.

by hatemay on Aug 30, 2011 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Jake Hess did leave the team

As usual, no reason was given for him leaving.

by BT Blue on Aug 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

potter did

after Burroughs got hurt. I believe it was an ankle sprain. Potter is sure handed and does well, but I think Burroughs has a little more speed and quickness.

by hatemay on Aug 30, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want Nate Potter to return kicks

Is it counterintuitive to root for both Boise State and the Yankees?

by NYBroncosFan on Aug 30, 2011 7:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Runaway frieght train, bitches.

by sczmbz on Aug 30, 2011 8:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Do it! We can make the pregame deal w/ UGa cause I know their fanbase is interested...

The deal would be we would use Potter and Canadian Bacon as KR/PR

UGa would use Big John Jenkins and Kwami Geathers as theirs

If we could get the refs to actually let Pete kick one time to Boykin this three ring circus would go down in CFB history as one of the most genuinely entertaining games EVAH

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Aug 30, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Enthusiastically Rec'd

Is it counterintuitive to root for both Boise State and the Yankees?

by NYBroncosFan on Aug 31, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jake Hess

left after the season and I believe he’ll be playing for Northern Arizona this season.

by abagadoba on Aug 30, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

and

where is Brenel Meyers? Shouldn’t he have locked down the starting RT position by now????

by hatemay on Aug 30, 2011 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Brenel Myers?

He is in the football facility, according to Coach Pete.

Boise....... State!!!!!!!!!

by rjohnson_jl on Aug 30, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

when I look at

the WR depth chart the starters are all good run blockers, that is what I see. I guess if all are in on the first play we are running the ball.

by Bluesport on Aug 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

J Root

Saw this guy on campus……….he is pretty cool. just saying!

"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- WG#99

by BustersBroncosBustsBCS on Aug 30, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Eh - I have to watch the game in a bar, so I just plan to get do-do face (thanks GHWB)

and just watch all that white marching up and down the field, and really only paying attention when they say “another Bronco first down” and hope I down fall off my stool before Lou Holtz’s praises the team as well coached on the Final wrap-up show.

The next day, I can come here, all bright eyed and bushy tailed, full-up with coffee and you all can tell me who did what and where (or to whom) and explain to me what exactly did I watch the night before….

I'd rather be surfing.

by Pac 10 Alum on Aug 30, 2011 3:23 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Paging Munson

We need a “you’ve got style/reflectivity and whiskey breath!” STAT!

by idaho_techsan on Aug 30, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You might see me on it

Just stocked the bar for game… First up 1.75 L. Bottle of Woodford Reserve.

by JaxDawg on Aug 30, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reflect, tell 'em you've been down with e-coli, but you'll still be glad to cook their burgers for them.

That should clear them all out in a hurry. Then you can enjoy your couch, your mac, your whiskey, and your Martin, without aggravating interruptions.

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Aug 30, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

"You've got style/and reflectivity!"

Sorry I’m late but my job occasionally requires that I work. Plus taking my son to U of W so will be out.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Aug 31, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

seems like lots of guys lost weight

wonder if the off season workouts stressed conditioning?

by ElPepeGrande on Aug 30, 2011 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Man Jax I ARE PUMPED!!!

Win or Lose I think this game is just plain gonna be fun to watch bro.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Aug 30, 2011 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

This week is crawling

by JaxDawg on Aug 31, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're Honored to Have the Opportunity

To play a top tier team like Boise State. I mean, Georgia is just going through the motions in the twilight of Mark Richt’s tenure.

You guys have clearly been jobbed by the BCS in recent years. All the national champions were scared to play you. And I really mean that. We’ll try to keep it interesting, but it’s hopeless.

by Hogbody Spradlin on Aug 31, 2011 4:55 AM PDT reply actions  

BTW, If You Recal Lewis Grizzard

Boise Idaho is part of his lore. Lewis had a few friends, very close, he called “Boise Idaho Friends.” A Boise Idaho Friend is a friend you can call at 3 am and say “I’m in Boise Idaho and I need $500, but I can’t tell you why” and the friend will get there with the money.

by Hogbody Spradlin on Aug 31, 2011 4:59 AM PDT reply actions  

You've Probably Heard This One Before

But is there any truth to the story that it’s difficult to find young ladies willing to be Miss Idaho?

by Hogbody Spradlin on Aug 31, 2011 5:01 AM PDT reply actions  

i'll venture a guess.

Idaho girls are pretty active. You’d have more luck finding a rodeo queen than a traditional pageant queen ‘round here. Heels and sequined dresses aren’t so conducive to mountain biking, hunting, fishing, and rodeo.

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Aug 31, 2011 8:10 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

i'm a pasty white girl from idaho.

i probably understand more spanish than ebonics. :shrug:

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Aug 31, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last syllable of Idaho is your clue, ma'am

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 31, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also oblivious, apparently.

/facepalm

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Aug 31, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

You may have missed a sorry-assed ol pun, but you nailed the criteria for a happy Idaho woman.

Hunting, fishing, rodeo, mountain anythinging… there are a lot of guys out there who would love to know a woman who had just one of those interests. Nothing beats pillow talk about S&W versus Colt, or G.Loomis versus Fenwick. Who needs to wear a friggin sash. I have a .270 on a sling that looks charming.

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Aug 31, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mmmm...guns

Gun powder, the ultimate aphrodisiac

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 31, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

go ahead and look down on my red neck, kcam, but Hoppes #9 is better than a scented candle. :)

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Aug 31, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me

I gotta clean one of my pistols after my handgun class last night. Thnx, bb.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 31, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, that would be...

Campfire smoke/Deet/and the smell of freshly caught trout on your hands.

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Aug 31, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's a vulgar joke about hands smelling like fish

And aphrodisiac that I’m not gonna do.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Sep 1, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well Bear In Mind

Georgia is part of the Confederate States of America. Idaho has nothing on Georgia for gun love.

by Hogbody Spradlin on Aug 31, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grew up in Texas

And live in Idaho. I would caution you on such a statement.

We actually have things like Wolves, Grizzly, Mountain Lions, Moose & Feral Hogs that control the majority of the Land Area, so people in Idaho know lot about guns because they need them for more than just being an enthusiast.

by idaho_techsan on Aug 31, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

You need to visit canyon county......

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Aug 31, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Canyon County?

There’s less people in Boise county but I bet the gun population up there is 4/1 or thereabouts…

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Sep 1, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

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