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Boise State practice report: True freshman watch, presser audio, and more

Boise State held a closed scrimmage on Friday, a follow-up presser on Saturday, and a full practice on Sunday. So much for working for the weekend. Read on for the highlights of what went down the past three days and what it might mean. 

First things first ... clear your datebook for Saturday

Boise State holds its first and only open scrimmage this Saturday at 7:00 p.m. at Bronco Stadium. The public is invited. Admission is free. BYO churro.

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True freshmen watch: Jay Ajayi on the bubble?

The Bronco coaches have made it clear that several true freshmen may play this fall, and we fans have taken that to mean definitely Jay Ajayi and probably some other people. Well, we may need to temper those Jay Ajayi expectations. Drew Wright is currently the team's No. 3 back, and Malcolm Johnson has been as good as advertised. This is not to say that Ajayi won't play as a true frosh, especially when you consider how the RB position will shake out over the next several years. But word out of camp has been high on Johnson (the IPT LOVES him), solid on Wright, and rather quiet on Ajayi. For my money, Ajayi will still play this season, just maybe not as much as we all originally thought.

And now for some other true freshmen making noise ...

Blake Renaud - Chadd Cripe believes Renaud may be the team's No. 5 linebacker at this point, and Chadd Cripe is never wrong, or if he is, he does a very good job framing Brian Murphy for it.

Corey Bell - A Pete Kwiatkowski favorite, Bell is unfortunate to be a star-in-the-making at a position that can only have one guy on the field at a time. There are already three nickels who figure to be above him on the depth chart, so Bell's role this year - if any - would likely be on special teams.

Lee Hightower - We know Kwiatkowski likes Hightower, and we know the Broncos both enjoy playing true freshmen in the secondary and may need to play a true freshman in the secondary. (Maybe a third safety?)

Darian Thompson - Copy and paste what I said above about the Broncos playing true freshmen in the secondary and then check this tweet from the Friday scrimmage:

Freshman CB Darian Thompson had INT, fumble return for TD in scrimmage.less than a minute ago via web Favorite Retweet Reply

 

Jeff Worthy - According to Cripe, the Broncos are in search of a fifth defensive tackle to play behind the Fearsome Foursome. Worthy is a defensive tackle. /matchmaker'd

Jake Van Ginkel - No one has anything to say about the Van Ginkel vs. Dan Goodale kicking championship of the world. I find this odd, and a little unnerving.

Complete audio of Chris Petersen's Saturday press conference

Hear Coach Pete audibly frustrated with the Boise State offense

Add Kharyee Marshall to the same APB as Brenel Myers

Players are disappearing from people's consciousnesses left and right this fall. First it was Brenel Myers at the offensive tackle position. Now it is former Dwight Freeney clone Kharyee Marshall vanishing at defensive end.

Chadd Cripe's rundown of the defensive line touched on the top four DEs - Shea McClellin, Tyrone Crawford, Jarrell Root, and grayshirt Tyler Horn. No mention of Marshall. Has he underperformed this fall? Is he injured? Did he and Myers innocently step into a time machine phone booth and are now reliving American history with Abraham Lincoln and cronies in Bren and Khar's Excellent Adventure? Probably not the last one, but maybe the first two.

The key to enjoying Idaho: guns

The Idaho Press-Tribune points out that some out-of-state players have trouble adjusting to the slower pace of life in Idaho, that is, until someone introduces them to guns. Take Jerrell Gavins, for instance:

At first, I did not like it at all, I thought there was nothing to do. But my teammates have been great in helping that ... I went shooting over the summer with Josh Borgman and Matt Paradis - that was pretty cool.

My mailbox would tend to disagree.

Offense bounces back in Sunday practice

The Friday scrimmage is now just a distant, shameful memory for the Boise State offense thanks to yesterday's practice when the first-team actually found the end zone. The solution: more Mitch Burroughs, natch.

As he has been all fall in practice, Kellen Moore was sharp in red-zone drills, hitting Mitch Burroughs for a touchdown on the first play of the session.

Burroughs for Comeback Player of the Year! The Mitch Burroughs Experience is back.

... the cornerback covering Burroughs fell down ...

Still.

Miscellaneous

Nick touched on this in the morning links: Brad Elkin was one of the top performers in the Friday closed-to-everyone scrimmage. I'm not sure how to feel about this, but I do believe we should start preparing ourselves for an Elkin Era of Punting. Says Elkin:

Now that I have the position at the moment, I'm motivated to keep it.

The Press-Tribune lists Taylor Tharp as a key senior contributor for his career year in 2007. I am conflicted about this.

Brenel Myers clue: Dave Southorn claims Myers is in the running for right guard along with Chuck Hayes and Jake Broyles. Interesting. As far as clues go, let's consider this to be the equivalent of the fuzzy traffic-cam photo of the last time anyone ever saw Myers. Now enhance that.


More standouts from the Friday scrimmage:

Standouts include Darian Thompson, Blake Renaud, Matt Miller, Corey Bell, Brad Elkinless than a minute ago via TweetDeck Favorite Retweet Reply

 

Dustin Lapray made-up quote of the day

Bronco camp isn't the same without Person Of The Year Dustin Lapray toting his moleskin journal hither and yon from practice field to press conference. Here now is my attempt to bring a little more Lapray to our Lapray-less world:

With the scrimmage closed to humanity, I turned to the finer pursuits of life - floating, writing, dreaming, living. My Friday was filled with frivolity in a field. The Bronco players spent their Day of Frige sweating behind closed doors, yearning for a goal, improving as a living organism of team goals and brotherhood. To each his own! C'est la vie! Sno cones!

Your turn

What do you think of Jay Ajayi's chances of playing this year? What other true freshmen do you think will see the field? Excited about the Brad Elkin Era of Punting and Chicanery? Share your thoughts in the comments.

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Here’s a gun. Woo hoo!

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 15, 2011 9:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Just ask Kellen.

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....."The future belongs to those who prepare for it today..." TODAY IS THE TOMORROW THAT I EARNED YESTERDAY!!!! LEGGGOOO.....{E.A.T.}
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by Broncograd96 on Aug 15, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

My random thoughts

I want to see Jay Ajayi now! I joined OBNUG after the Malcolm Johnson hoopla so I do not have any feelings of attachment to him but I got all psyched up about Ajayi. However, I will humbly submit to the authority of Chris Petersen and if I have to wait, I will wait.

I am very interested/concerned about the kickers. The fact that we are getting zero info from the media or coaches makes me wonder all the more what is going on. At least we get to see them for ourselves on Saturday but I really want to know now!

Hightower and Thompson sound like they are making a case for themselves getting to play this year. I look forward to seeing them in the scrimmage.

Loved the “Enhance it” video, especially the MacGyver clips. The 80’s rocked!

"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." -- Dan Hawkins

by smurfturfer on Aug 15, 2011 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Caught this nugget in the Idaho Statesman's live chat on Friday

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 15, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

I’m not sure what it means that Mr. Van Ginkel doesn’t seem to get mentioned anywhere. He is enrolled, right? Dan did a nice job in Spring camp so I’m not too worried.

"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." -- Dan Hawkins

by smurfturfer on Aug 15, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I don't get

Why didn’t anyone ask Pete about the kickers at media day?

by daddy18 on Aug 15, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

corrected me if I'm wrong

But last year leading up to the opener wasn’t the same kind of concerns coming out of camp about the offense?

it's not that you are stupid, it's just that you don't suspect!
Nothing is good nor bad until compared to something else.

by Darth Prophet on Aug 15, 2011 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

It seems like it happens every year.

I remember being really worried in 2006 watching the offense get pounded by the defense in the fall scrimmage. Everything worked out pretty good that year! I guess it’s a pretty good sign if the defense is dominating, the offense will get there too!

Yippee Ki-ya... MR FALCON!

by OBNUG Intern on Aug 15, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I asked for that

it's not that you are stupid, it's just that you don't suspect!
Nothing is good nor bad until compared to something else.

by Darth Prophet on Aug 15, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Defenses always return to form quicker than offenses IMO.

Remember too this defense is full of returning players, the offense has a few wrinkles to iron out. I wouldn’t worry about the Number 2 returning offense struggling against the Number 2 returning defense too mcuh.

In other words, Boise could wear pink-on-pink and still beat you in Bronco Stadium by 30 points. The Broncos could wear pink-on-pink with ankle weights and beat you 14 points. - Paul Myerberg, Pre Snap Read

by Mikrino on Aug 15, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Plus

If our D is doing so well other d’s won’t seem so tough.

by daddy18 on Aug 15, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The offense will be fine...

If fact, if our defense can shut down our offense, then that should tell you just how good our defense really is. Also, defense has a built in advantage, seeing how they practice against the offense every day and can usually tell what the offense is going to do.

I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.

by BSU Guru on Aug 15, 2011 10:43 AM PDT reply actions  

I see no reason to play Jay Ajayi this year if we do not have to.

Boise State has thrived over the year’s on redshirting players. Plus, they have Doug Martin and DJ Harper, who are going to take up most of the carries, and also Drew Wright and Malcolm Johnson, who will be solid backups. They also have Raphiel Lambert, if he is even still on the team. There is just no reason to burn Ajayi’s redshirt and waste a year that he could be the featured back in this system, just to get him 15 or 20 carries this year.

I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.

by BSU Guru on Aug 15, 2011 10:54 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

agree O Exalted One-for me it's a non-ish. Even w/o Malcolm, I don't think we need to do it.

Drew is probably a solid #3-and then we have the usual Hodge-type garbage runners. We want our RBs to take snaps-if Harper is healthy we got us 2 guys vying for #1 IMO. Gotta’ say we are in the minority here-lots want to see Ajayi.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Aug 15, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

And I’ll take it a step further. I’ve never jumped on the bandwagon with RB’s until they’ve proven themselves on the field. Doug did. Jeremy did. Ian did. Keep going back and all of our starting RB’s proved it on the field. There’s nothing wrong with being excited about a recruit but don’t put the cart before the horse.

by daddy18 on Aug 15, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Originally,

I was a STRONG believer that we should redshirt Ajayi and "save" him so that we could "have him as a starter all 4 years." Then today I got to thinking about how practice alone under a fantastic senior player is not usually nearly as good as actual game time while being tutored by a fantastic senior player. I have now (as of about an hour ago), changed my opinion and think that a full year under the likes of Martin and Harper might be just exactly what Ajayi needs to be an explosive, game changing starter in 2012. Just my .02, but I think there is MUCH to be gained by having both the tutelage AND actual game time experience to sharpen the skills and receive much needed advice about what needs to be adjusted. I certainly no longer believe that using Ajayi this year would be a "waste".

by Inkforareason on Aug 15, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, the only problem with that is...

Harper, Wright, and Johnson are all going to be back next year, which means that there will still be a logjam at tailback. Considering he won’t likely be the starting running back until 2013, would you rather him be a sophomore with three more years to tear it up, or a junior quickly approaching the latter half of his college football career.

I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.

by BSU Guru on Aug 15, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Kharyee Marshall

I’m not one to question the Bronco coaching staff but I don’t understand why Marshall wouldn’t get a shot at outside linebacker. Of course maybe he has behind closed doors and we just don’t know it, but still. He’s about the size of a BSU outside linebacker and we all know he runs a 4.4. Those DE back up slots are filling fast. I would think it would be hard to keep someone with Marshall’s physical tools off the field.

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by JRig on Aug 15, 2011 3:44 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Marshall is good-but c'mon 204 lbs.? even at 214 (which they claim and I doubt) how can you be a Div DE?

LB make smuch more sense. And when someone pays me 1/100,000 of what the least compensated coach at Boise State, then maybe someone will give a (bw) what I think.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Aug 16, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Horn gained 40 pounds this last year

Suggests that their might be issues with Marshall’s focus.

by ElPepeGrande on Aug 17, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Always Red-Shirt

I have always had an opinion that if you can.. always red-shirt the red-shirt year to learn the system, learn from the starters can be invaluable once you start. Of course I also understand if he is just a stud and is better than the players yo have at that position, than go ahead and start a true freshman..

by East Coast Broncos Fan on Aug 16, 2011 6:04 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

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