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An open letter to Boise State regarding that time you fired Gene Bleymaier

Dear Boise State University and President Bob Kustra and Mascot Buster Bronco,

It has recently come to my attention that you have fired Bronco athletic director Gene Bleymaier for reasons that you have nicknamed "presidential decision." It is not my place to judge or second-guess, and I do not mean to tell you how to run your school ... although while we're on the topic, what would it take to get a working sound system in Bronco Stadium? Or a churro machine? I'm willing to compromise.

There is no doubt that things at the athletic department were not going swimmingly these last few months what with those rogue air mattresses and that cursed Jack In The Box dollar menu wreaking havoc through Bronco recruiting. Was it enough to axe the man who brought blue turf to Bronco Stadium and oversaw the greatest rise to college football prominence in the history of the sport? We'll never know, at least not until 10 years from now in the KTVB tell-all iPad book, Gene B. Free

But the reason for Bleymaier's firing is not my point. My point is this: When did Boise State outgrow one of its most legendary employees? And what would it take to go back to the way things were?

Star-divide

I became a Boise State football fan for the football, not for the HR drama, so you'll have to excuse me if stories like this make me break out in hives and pen open letters on my blog. The drama of hiring and firing and NCAA investigating is one aspect of college sports that I can do without.

And I thought I was doing without it by being a fan of Boise State football. People wear camo to games, for crying out loud. How much more grounded can you get than that? But silly me. It would seem you cannot escape The Machine when your team is as good as Boise State's. As the Broncos have grown, so have the headlines. Now here we are turning 29-year-tenured employees into lame ducks and scrambling like mad to keep up with the Joneses (whom we never liked in the first place). It feels like a mini-Ohio State around here.

All we Bronco fans wanted was to see our team compete at the highest level of college football, to keep the small-school drama-free vibe of the Golden Era, to have a piece of cake, and to sit down and eat it while watching our Fiesta Bowl DVDs. Was that too much to ask?

Part of me (the part that hates change) thinks firing Gene Bleymaier was wrong. And part of me (the part that loves football) has a hard time caring about this story. But I do care about this story and I do see the rationale behind moving on with a different AD. I guess I just wish we could go back to the way things were six months ago when the only thing that mattered was the football.

Speaking of which, how's that kicking competition going?

Sincerely,

Kevan Lee

Ps. I was serious about that sound system / churro thing. Let me know.

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Rec'd! I love churros!

In other words, Boise could wear pink-on-pink and still beat you in Bronco Stadium by 30 points. The Broncos could wear pink-on-pink with ankle weights and beat you 14 points. - Paul Myerberg, Pre Snap Read

by Mikrino on Aug 11, 2011 7:58 AM PDT reply actions  

the thing that scares me the 2nd most

is wondering if this is beginning of the end to our glorious blue field.

*Chris Petersen For President*

by mc.hammertime on Aug 11, 2011 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

ditto

Was one of the things that went through my head first. Does the field stay blue?

It was all just a dream...

by MasinMud on Aug 11, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah.

I mean, if Kustra will fire Gene to score a brownie point…what wouldn’t he scrap the blue for?

*Chris Petersen For President*

by mc.hammertime on Aug 11, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would be the dumbest move a new AD could come in and try to do...at least right away.

However, if we ever changed the blue turf, the only reason would be in order to get in to a bigger conference, in which case GB would have done it for the same reason too.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 11, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

would he?

I still feel like a conference that would expect you to compromise your tradition is not a conference we want to be in

*Chris Petersen For President*

by mc.hammertime on Aug 11, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

why compromise?

I guess my arrogant optimism always dreamed that we would be a big enough deal that anything to make bronco nation sad would not even be put on the table. That’s how bad they’d want us. But alas….it remains just arrogant optimism. If only. I still hope that day never comes.

*Chris Petersen For President*

by mc.hammertime on Aug 11, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah... after posting I realized that their was no edit button.

I figured if no one called me out on it I would not look like a dork.

by Jay Weston on Aug 11, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

You don't look like a dork!

That’s what I am here for! I’m like the rodeo clown!

Yippee Ki-ya... MR FALCON!

by OBNUG Intern on Aug 11, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol! save folks from themselves as well as bull run wild. rec'd

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Aug 11, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't worry about "The Blue"

It may have been Gene’s idea, but it’s part of the fabric of Bronco Nation now. Getting rid of it would not only damage the football program, but the university and city of Boise as well. Now losing Petersen…that’s something to worry about.

by NYBroncosFan on Aug 11, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

this won't ever even be on the table

look at the outcry about the MWC and the blue uniforms. The Blue field isn’t going anywhere.

by ElPepeGrande on Aug 13, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

"slightly" damaged by fire

like a small toaster oven flare-up perhaps.

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 11, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

toaster sabotage

could be in the best interests of the churro project. we’d just replace it with a churro-capable one. he would fall in love

*Chris Petersen For President*

by mc.hammertime on Aug 11, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll get right on that.

I mean… no I won’t (wink).

Yippee Ki-ya... MR FALCON!

by OBNUG Intern on Aug 11, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hear churro ovens are pretty safe

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 11, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, I'm not wishing homelessness on anyone

Maybe Kustra gets his eye brow trimmer tangled up while grooming and a few sparks fly or something?

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 11, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

HA HA

there is no 'Z' in 'Boise, there is no 'O' in 'Petersen and there is no edit button on SBNation, oh, and there is no sarcasm font on SBNation

by Boise State of Mind on Aug 11, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

So no discussion at all on the possible fundraiser becoming the Interim AD?

I mean that would answer some of your concerns, no?

I'd rather be surfing.

by Pac 10 Alum on Aug 11, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd. I agree, Nick. The progress made under GB has been incredible.

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Aug 11, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd! Good points all. And what about those churros!

In other words, Boise could wear pink-on-pink and still beat you in Bronco Stadium by 30 points. The Broncos could wear pink-on-pink with ankle weights and beat you 14 points. - Paul Myerberg, Pre Snap Read

by Mikrino on Aug 11, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Way to go and top my story

Well said, Nick. Rec’d.

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 11, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well we all know that's not true

I can never pull off the tongue in cheek flare you do. I mean churros? Brilliant!

by Nick Kroes on Aug 11, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure what that says about me that I was thinking of churros at 8:00 a.m.

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 11, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know

Because Costco doesn’t even open until 10:00 a.m. And I assume that’s the only place to get churros

by Nick Kroes on Aug 11, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Betos

Eagle and Overland. Churros 24 hours a day, diarrhea 24 hours a day. Trust me. I know.

by divox21 on Aug 11, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

That made me laff

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

My hypothesis...

There is something big coming down the pipe toward the program from the NCAA, or else Kustra was getting outside pressure from the other presidents (he attended that NCAA D1 Presidents Retreat thing, correct?) and had to make a quick call to do damage control for the whole program.

We may never know the truth on this one, but this is a big, bold move for Kustra to make unless he had to.

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Aug 11, 2011 8:59 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

"You've got style/and reflectivity!'

In employment law, the less the employer says, the better. Gene serves at the discretion of Kustra. As the State Board of Education noted, they have only one contract, and that is with the Boise State president. We may never hear an official explication, as none is necessary and the less you say the less you have to defend.
Parenthentically, should Kelly leave Oregon, Coach Pete’s apparent personal loyalty to Gene may add anothher straw to an already deep pile leading to his taking the Oregon job, which I say is 70% assured at this point.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Aug 11, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

"70% assured at this point"

Goat sacrifice … now!

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 11, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

70% seems a bit high...

This is assuming:
A. Chip Kelly gets fired
B. Oregon comes after Petersen above all others (don’t forget Urban Meyer is still out there)
C. Petersen actually wants the Oregon job (just because he was an assistant there doesn’t mean it’s his dream job…it’s not like he’s an alum and he turned down Stanford…which I think was a better job than Oregon)

Just saying.

by NYBroncosFan on Aug 11, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not that I'm not terrified

That he will now go…somewhere (Georgia may have an opening soon)

by NYBroncosFan on Aug 11, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

If that happens (Richt gettin canned)

You better believe I hope Georgia goes after him. You folks have a darn good Coach

by JaxDawg on Aug 11, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

What you may not know BigAppleBronco:

1) Phil Knight flew Coach Pete and his family to get his son’s treatment when he was first diagnosed
2)Coach Pete’s son’s doctors, who used to be in Boise, are now in Portland Oregon
3) Pete is very close to Phil Knight (see above)
What you DO know-Oregon has mucho denaro thanks to Phil; the school and program are set to skyrocket.
I do not want Coach Pete to leave. But let’s be adult; if Kelly goes, and the problems there appear to be serious,what sort of deal do you think the alums will offer Pete? Eugene aint Palo Alto, which is a slum like hell hole. Pete wouldnt need to live there but asst’s would.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Aug 11, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't know that Knight and Pete where so close so I googled it..

http://oregonbusinessreport.com/2010/02/could-nike-leave-oregon/

We don’t have to worry… Instead of Oregon stealing Coach Pete…. Coach Pete is going to still Nike from Oregon.

by Jay Weston on Aug 11, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would go to work at Nike in a heartbeat.

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Aug 11, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ditto that

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 11, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate nike...

But if they magically came to BSU and started dumping in money into our program I would be willing to change my mind.

by Jay Weston on Aug 11, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Nike business unit

on a campus near the new 10mile overpass would be the best employment news we could ask for. Professional jobs to replace Albertson/OreIda/etc, and to add diversity to the HP/Micron jobs would be awesome. The 10mile overpass would be perfect with access to the whole valley.

Keep your LinkedIn profiles updated, just in case!

by ElPepeGrande on Aug 13, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Palo Alto ain’t a slum-like hell-hole, and Eugene’s nothing special, but agree Oregon is a much better job.

by Nicholas Miller on Aug 15, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know other people have the same concerns. I just wanted to post it in my own words. I’m self-righteous like that.

by Jay Weston on Aug 11, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd

I concur. thanks for that

*Chris Petersen For President*

by mc.hammertime on Aug 11, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about a QUARTER of what you know

I like your insider’s perspective. There were elements of what came out in the public (lawsuits, allegations, etc.) that hinted at this being much bigger than any of us had thought. I am not in a position to say wrong or right. It’s just kind of … sad. End of an era and all.

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 11, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK

Mrs. kcam and I had coffee with the Kustras two weeks ago and accepted invites to join them in a sky suite at the Georgia Dome for some gig over Labor Day weekend.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uhhhhhh ...

That’s the coolest thing I’ve heard all day.

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 11, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

...and I'm jealous.

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Aug 11, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

If/When this happen...

Will OBNUGers get free season tickets?

by Jay Weston on Aug 11, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

But please stop impugning Kustra’s motives

I won’t disagree with that, and all things considered, I suspect the folks in Boise will again show the world how you deal with issues such as this. I see them giving Gene his 3 cheers and deserving respect while moving on smoothly.

it's not that you are stupid, it's just that you don't suspect!
Nothing is good nor bad until compared to something else.

by Darth Prophet on Aug 11, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Now is not the time to pile on anyone or question motives until we all know more. Obviously some regrettable things went down and Kustra felt necessary to take action.

It’s just a sad ending to an era.

by Nick Kroes on Aug 11, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Addendum

If you were rooting for a great next AD, root for Apsey, Gene’s assistant. I think he would be outstanding and the best any Bronco could hope for. I really hope he applies for and gets the job and you should too.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would be great to have some one who already understands the mind set and culture

that Gene, Bob, and Pete have worked to create. No big earth shaking moves, but if change must happen then maybe a fresh perspective would be nice.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 11, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is his stance on granting press credentials to bloggers?q

Inquiring minds want to know.

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 11, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll ask him when I see him

He’s a golfing buddy to a couple of my tailgate chums and stops by each home game.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget.

Kevan has Bronco Stock, so he could be incredibly influential into his being hired.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
"It takes no talent to give great effort." | "We’re not going to play to the outside noise." -- Chris Petersen
"[Kellen] Moore is a walking Staples® button." -- Ivan Maisel
"I’ve never seen a better prepared team than the Boise State Broncos and it was a privilege to watch them play." -- Lou Holtz

by Loque on Aug 13, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

One would think that a succesor from with in could continue to carry the torch that Gene held for so many years

In the end, having someone that truly understands our limitations (budget) and how to maximize the use of said limited budget makes a ton of sense.

On the other hand, it appears more and more that super conference Armageddon is coming, it would be nice to have a new AD that has the right connections to make sure Boise St lands in the best situation possible.

by idaho_techsan on Aug 11, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

rec'd; the Day of Reckoning is coming. I may not live to see it, but there will be only 50 or so teams playing

what we know as Div I football. the Pac 12 TV deal is a harbinger of things to come.Most of the “haves” are known, as are most of the “have nots”. The very few still in doubt-like us-well, “may you live in interesting times”(Chinese curse)

tvmunson

by tmunson on Aug 11, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Real talk.

September 3rd, 2011 - Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game - Boise State vs Georgia
"Being realistic is the most commonly traveled path to mediocrity" - Will Smith

by MyBroncos on Aug 11, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Are you sure this isn’t Bob or his wifey?

Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are.
John Wooden

by hoopsbill on Aug 11, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm sure Bob or his wifey

Peruse OBNUG. Be cool if they did but I rather doubt it.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please get over yourself

I have been a long-time and fan of OBNUG, but have never opened an account to post until now. I grew up in Boise. I still have plenty of connections in Boise; especially within the University and the boosters. I could easily write this post with a tone similar to Kcam (arguably I am) and stroke my ego by talking about how none of you (other readers) know what I know. Instead, I would like to point out some things:

1. Only Kustra really knows why he fired Gene.

2. We should withhold judgment on both men until after the NCAA reveals their findings (at least).

3. We should thank Gene for his guidance. The man has been the one constant through all the years of success.

I really liked the comment by ArmyBlue below. I feel like, with so little current information, we should try and build a picture of both Gene and Dr. Kustra to gain understanding of this situation.

How many VPs and Deans has Dr. Kustra hired and fired in the last two years? Why?

They called him Clean Gene. Jim Tressel had a similar image, and it didn’t hold up. But what about track record? Historical data can help build a picture, it did for Tressel (see his history of problems at Youngstown, etc), are we ignoring or overlooking a history of problems?

I agree with Kcam that none of us, not even Kcam, has enough information to pass judgement at this moment. I also do not find it original that Kcam is defending a man who will be providing him with suite tickets to the Georgia Dome. Some people have even suggested that ego (gasp) may have been a motivator for Dr. Kustra. If that is true, then perhaps Kcam does have insider information; Kcam’s post would certainly suggest some of Dr. Kustra has been rubbing off on him.

Kcam: I apologize if you view that last line as personal. I am new to this, and, quite frankly, don’t really know the rules and etiquette. This is one of many reasons I never post on the internet.

I would only ask the other readers to try and gather as much concrete (not from myself or from Kcam via Dr. Kustra’s couch, hence a biased version) information as possible before judging anyone in this case. Gather information from both sides and make your own informed decision. We owe this to Gene for what he’s done for us as Bronco fans, and we owe it to the University we love for its continued success.

by BlahdDah on Aug 11, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stroking my ego?

C’mon, man. Know what you can do? Ignore me. I’m hardly holding myself out as Kustra’s closest confidante because I’m far from it. You call me out because I defended Kustra while insinuating some quid pro quo then go on to reinforce my point of not leaping to conclusions, thanking Gene for his great job, wishing him well, and admitting I nor anyone else knows the reason(s) why he’s gone. I get that you’re new to this internet thing but attacking me then reiterating what I wrote is weird. FTR, his wife made the invite.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, Blah

Do you know why Gene was not present at the MWC media event and where he was?

I do.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 12, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks, t

Sure seems Blah was, though. Point is, I’m not necessarily happy that I know some of this stuff.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 12, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is my last post.

Yes I do. Much better than you in fact. Get over yourself.

by BlahdDah on Aug 12, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doubt it but don't really care.

But you do the same.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 12, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's nothing to get over but I want to apologize

I’ve no doubt you have way more info than I. Please accept my apology. I wish I had never posted that comment above in the first place and wish it could be taken down (Drew? Kevan?). My apologies to all readers and the bloggers. I’ll repeat: the news of Gene’s departure saddens me greatly. I have nothing but respect for Gene and Bob and all the hard working people at the school, its teahers, its boards and employees, fans and boosters, students, athletes, coaches, etc. I have nothing but respect for people who love BSU and know there are many varied voices. I’m just one and certainly not intimately involved with every last detail of the workings of the university (thankfully).

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 12, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

munson'd "teachers"

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 12, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kcam, you don't have to apologize, but of course, it is accepted.

Most of us have read enough of your comments, those serious and those hilarious, to know you aren’t lording anything over anyone. And if you are worried about what you may have divulged, I’m still waiting with bated breath for you to divulge something. So, really, no worries. And have a grand time at any and all BSU events you are invited to attend. I’m exceedingly jealous.

Now BlahdDah, on the other hand…you’ve only posted this one comment, ever. I’m wondering why this topic spurred you into writing. I find that interesting. But since you’ve never written before, we really don’t have any feel for your character, your tone, your motivation. You may want to comment again on many other topics, and I hope you do, so we may get to know you better. Please, consider a less confrontational approach. This is Mom talking. No offense meant, just harmony. I’ve been working on harmony lately, and this is my first opportunity to stay calm and friendly, and not go for the throat.

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Aug 12, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

"New to this."

I always went in with the motto, “I have full trust in you until you lose it.”

Just a recomendation.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
"It takes no talent to give great effort." | "We’re not going to play to the outside noise." -- Chris Petersen
"[Kellen] Moore is a walking Staples® button." -- Ivan Maisel
"I’ve never seen a better prepared team than the Boise State Broncos and it was a privilege to watch them play." -- Lou Holtz

by Loque on Aug 13, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

How Many VPs and Deans/Last Two Years

I can answer that. Assuming that “fired” can be applied elastically, here it is:

Dean of Engineering: moved into another position, presumably because the president was unhappy with her performance.

Provost: moved to another university, with the same presumption.

VP for University Advancement: moved back into his college after successfully completing the capital campaign begun five years ago.

Have I forgotten someone? Perhaps. But this is not massive firings.

President Kustra cleaned house when he first arrived, and most people at the university believe it was a long time coming.

by Nicholas Miller on Aug 15, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for that, Mr. Miller

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 16, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm gad you said something Kcam;

While I acknowledged GB’s amazing achievements yesterday (and stand by that), I was thinking about it today and discussing w/ some coworkers. We kind of came to the conclusion that there was a strong likelihood this was a “forced hand” move.

I mean, if there was evidence GB knew what was happening on some of these violations and chose to turn a blind eye then that leaves Kustra a choice between keeping GB or letting the NCAA throw the USC banhammer on us. Boise St. can’t whether the banhammer like USC can, it would wipe our program away in the blink of an eye imo and I’d guess Petersen would bid adieu. So there really is no choice there.

Similarly, if GB was facing some serious sexual discrimination related lawsuits or whatever the heck he got himself tangled up in…the program would likely suffer too much with a scandal like that.

In essence, we don’t and probably never will know the true story, but I have to wonder to myself if GB hung his own rope. Whether it’s petty or silly or flat out wrong this much is true; at the level and type of business these guys are involved in, perception is king and you absolutely can’t afford to be in any sort of position that could challenge your character.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Aug 11, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if there are boosters that want a change.

Gene has had a reputation for being….aloof.

If big boosters are sitting on their checkbooks instead of putting names on buildings, it would push this decision. If the big boosters really wanted Gene—-he would still be here. They are paying Gene half a million dollars not to work here anymore.

I do worry about the coaches though. This is a pretty good job now, but if your new boss isn’t great, it is easy for talented people to polish up their resumes. I don’t worry about a school stealing Pete, but if he is less happy, it is easier to poach him.

by ElPepeGrande on Aug 13, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

When did Boise State outgrow one of its most legendary employees?

Pretty much sums it up right there great question!

it's not that you are stupid, it's just that you don't suspect!
Nothing is good nor bad until compared to something else.

by Darth Prophet on Aug 11, 2011 9:19 AM PDT reply actions  

You don't have enough information.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe so

I but if the worst of it was the letter and go color, I understand at the same time the man deserves to leave with his head up and 3 cheers regardless, I understand it takes two to tango I don’t know if given a week to make that decision to tango was really ever offered , and if it was well ok but still we should all stand up and clap for what this man has help us all to enjoy and reveal in.

it's not that you are stupid, it's just that you don't suspect!
Nothing is good nor bad until compared to something else.

by Darth Prophet on Aug 11, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me as well

Somber days ..
P.S. I meant revel in ….

it's not that you are stupid, it's just that you don't suspect!
Nothing is good nor bad until compared to something else.

by Darth Prophet on Aug 11, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey look on the bright side

At least yall`s AD didn`t get fired because he was driving hammered drunk with another woman other than his wife in his bMW and her undies in his hands.

Although she was probably a dawg fan her panties were team colors

23 days left…. GO DAWGS!!

by JaxDawg on Aug 11, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yo Jax

Tell TKK no hard feelings it’s a principle thing.. just to pc for me..

it's not that you are stupid, it's just that you don't suspect!
Nothing is good nor bad until compared to something else.

by Darth Prophet on Aug 11, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you Gene

Good luck on your life path.

by bobink on Aug 11, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don't have enough information

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is why it was a question....

You ask questions to get more information.

by Jay Weston on Aug 11, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Understood

But we may never get the answer.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except that you seem to know the answer already

So it’s "you (us minus kcam) may never get the answer. I hate not knowing things.

by NYBroncosFan on Aug 11, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't have ALL the info, either

And never will. I just have…some. And probably no more than what the rest of you will know in due time.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

No

But I love that line anyways.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was more going on here...

than meets the eye. Kustra is the president of BSU, and just probably knows things you and I don’t, I think there is something going on behind the scenes. Like just maybe the NCAA ………….

 Feel sorry for Gene, watching him on the KTRV interview, you could see how distraught the guy was, and he has already known for a week. Best of luck, he has been the face of the Broncos for many years and has done a job, that I for one, would have believed impossible 10 years ago.

by papaspud on Aug 11, 2011 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Lets look on the bright side.

If Gene is fired because BSU needed, “new leadership will be needed as we commit ourselves to the highest level of attention and enforcement of NCAA standards.” Then Gene has an opening to the SEC. They could care less about the NCAA standards. In fact I think that a lack of enforcing NCAA standards is a requirement to be a SEC AD.

by Jay Weston on Aug 11, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Or Ohio State

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I expect nothing less from Bronco Nation.

The fans will deliver the support, rain or shine.

"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7

"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation

by reflectivity on Aug 11, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Coach Pete

I have a very, very hard time believing Petersen wasn’t consulted on this…so hard in fact, I don’t believe it. There is no way that, in the end, Petersen didn’t sign off. That said, I really wouldn’t worry about his loyalty to BSU moving forward, or the next AD…for Pete will be consulted on that hire as well. There is one athletic program that makes money for BSU, and one program responsible for the newfound national prominence and even growth of the student body during lean times. Coach Pete will be able to hand pick the next AD.

Also, after 30 years of amazing work, I imagine there is far more going on than we know…and I really hope that doesn’t equate to sanctions being handed down by the NCAA.

Everything will be ok.

by pourfavor on Aug 11, 2011 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Not going to disagree but want to rationalize your thoughts

As much as we all hold Pete in the highest regard and recognize how much he means to Boise St., but how many people are consulted by their boss’ boss about the termination of their direct superior? I would tend to say never, one it is a major HR no-no to discuss anyone’s termination outside of those directly superior and involved in that termination in an organization and two it has no bearing on the issues that led to a termination.

Now, I certainly do believe that Pete was immediately informed after the meeting between Kustra & GB by Kustra of what just took place. It would be unfair to involve Coach Pete in the matter of GB’s termination at any time of the year, especially 3 weeks from a difficult opening game with UGA.

Again, not trying to be disagree because it could have occurred in just that fashion. Just want to point out that terminating someone from essentially an executive position is generally handled in a very delicate manner.

by idaho_techsan on Aug 11, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is a bit different

How often does an employee make 6x the $$ his boss makes? and 4 or 5x what is boss’ boss makes?

Pete would be consulted, shown the business case for why Gene needs to go—out of respect for the very least. Pete is too valuable to the school to be treated like any other employee. He would also be shielded from it to make sure he isn’t dragged into any of the mud.

by ElPepeGrande on Aug 13, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say sign off.

If GB has a week in which to decide whether to quit or get fired, it’s likely it was discussed with Petersen. I’m not sure how much Kustra spoke to him or not (or speaks to him or not). I also don’t know enough (other than from what I do know is that he makes appearances but doesn’t glad hand the way say Urban Meyer had to do for Florida recruitment, fundraising, etc. or the way they do in the Big “10” (one of the other failures of Rich Rod was this).

I'd rather be surfing.

by Pac 10 Alum on Aug 11, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Business is business.

And let’s face it, Major College Football is big business. Bleymaier did an excellent job, we should all be proud. But sometimes change is necessary too.

It is what it is.

Let’s move on to waiting another three weeks for football.

In other words, Boise could wear pink-on-pink and still beat you in Bronco Stadium by 30 points. The Broncos could wear pink-on-pink with ankle weights and beat you 14 points. - Paul Myerberg, Pre Snap Read

by Mikrino on Aug 11, 2011 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

So true

There’s an axiom in the military. Sometimes you have to cut the deadwood loose to get fresh, new ideas and strategies. Sometimes when a person gets ensconsed in a position for a long time, such as in Gene’s case, they be come stale, so to speak. This could be the launching point of even greater things. On the flip side of the coin, this could be the start of a downward spiral. Ugh….

"To institute change, we must be willing to take that first step, however scary it may be, and send a resounding message to the establishment that enough is enough, that we WILL be heard and people WILL take notice that the days of taking advantage of the small-town universities is at an end."--BSUFlyboy re: Ending the BCS stranglehold

I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!

Follow me on Twitter: @BSUFlyboy

by BSUFlyboy on Aug 11, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

2011 has been rough!

Massive hangover from 2010 season; NCAA violations and self imposed sanctions; ban of blue on blue; and now Gene’s firing.
I desperately need the season to start.

"Whatever happened to just winning games."

by Broncochick on Aug 11, 2011 10:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Kellen Moore for AD in 2012!

Using his super powers he turns the blue turf into actual water that the players can walk on, schedules all the BCS schools to lose on the new Blue at the same time, and provides a lifetime of free DQ Blizzards to all OBNUGers. Plus, who could morally investigate Boise State with KM as AD?

by divox21 on Aug 11, 2011 10:19 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

THIS

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 11, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd - awesome post

The key is not the "will to win" - everybody has that. It is the will to prepare to win that is important. ~ Bobby Knight

by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Aug 12, 2011 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

BAA

The BAA bbq on Saturday will be interesting. Thanks Gene for everything you’ve done for Boise State.

Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are.
John Wooden

by hoopsbill on Aug 11, 2011 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

No kidding

“Interesting” is what you say when you were expecting something else.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

BILL

Your family making that trip to GA? Hope to see you this season.

Couldn’t have said it any better. Thanks, Gene. It’s been an amazing career and Bronoco Nation wishes you nothing but the best.

The program will be fine, the turf will be fine, Coach Pete will be fine. Business decisions like this happen every day. My bet is that it IS NCAA connected and that regardless of what he says now (in the interest of finding a new job) Gene knew it was coming. What kcam says about not being present at the MWC thing speaks to that. Anytime “lack of institutional control” comes up, the buck stops at the top, as it should, regardless of how we feel about all that Gene has done for Boise State.

Ultimately, Kustra has to do the best for Boise State that he can with the cards he’s being dealt and I’ve got faith.

OBNUG Resident Mom

by Crissie on Aug 11, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Classly letter.

It’s never fun to have a successful AD have to leave, regardless of circumstances (of which I am completely ignorant).

by first and thom on Aug 11, 2011 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Okay so this is a little unsettling.
Boise State football is currently the subject of one of the most laughable NCAA violation investigations in recorded history, which has somehow led to the firing of its athletic director.
No incident in particular is cited as having sparked the firing, though an NCAA inquiry into the dreaded “lack of institutional control” tends to spook universities. The school’s athletic department is accused of allowing impermissable housing, food and transportation among other allegations. Bleymaier’s firing could mean that Boise State expects to be hit hard. Stay tuned.

From SBNation’s main page on the issue.

In other words, Boise could wear pink-on-pink and still beat you in Bronco Stadium by 30 points. The Broncos could wear pink-on-pink with ankle weights and beat you 14 points. - Paul Myerberg, Pre Snap Read

by Mikrino on Aug 11, 2011 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Gene seemed to think otherwise

Like some have stated, we may never know the real reason why.

September 3rd, 2011 - Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game - Boise State vs Georgia
"Being realistic is the most commonly traveled path to mediocrity" - Will Smith

by MyBroncos on Aug 11, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless there are other compliance issues that BSU/NCAA is looking into.

But with what is on the table right now I can’t see the NCAA hitting us with any more sanctions than we self imposed.

by Jay Weston on Aug 11, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

There isn't

And IMO, there won’t be.

An unsigned observation on SBN can be taken several ways: it’s laughable that BSU is being investigated over futons and fast food meals that have been paid back.

As for the second post, it’s about as accurate as any other statement ANYONE has posted on this comment board, right now we don’t know.

As far as compliance issues go, I can safely say (and I’ll just say I believe I know what i am talking about) based on the NCAA’s own rules, for their to be “new” or “other” compliance issues post the hearing and pre-release of findings, there would need to be a notice to the institution AND a new hearing. So the answer is safely “NO.”

I'd rather be surfing.

by Pac 10 Alum on Aug 11, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Major violation in Olympic Sport

Well, Mr Bleymaier is gone.. but no one is talking about the women’s tennis coach who brought the hammer down.. is that coach gone too?? no has said anything about him/her.

Personally, I think this was the opportunity for the NCAA to spank the Broncos. the lack of institutional control charge was bogus.

by divarty on Aug 11, 2011 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

Pretty sure he was gone a long time ago.

by Nick Kroes on Aug 11, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Regarding the women's tennis coach, Mark Tichenor
"We acted immediately by firing him. I’m hopeful the infractions committee will understand. It’s not as though we tolerated an individual who would commit a major violation," Kustra said.

Kustra said he was fired – Tichenor said he resigned, but gone either way.

by BT Blue on Aug 11, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Great Open Letter to Boise St. & Kustra

From: raju@BeyondUsports.com
Here is a great open letter from an avid Boise State fan. This proves my point that the fans don’t care about NCAA infractions. Why do you think the entire Ohio State family is taking Prozac? They are depressed of the imminent demise of their football program, be it temporary. How many people complained when Barry Bonds was hitting bombs, while his head was the size of a Buick? No one cared. Only the media jumps in after the fact with phony outrage. At the end of the day, all the fan wants is football, by hook or by crook. The rest of the nonsense will be swept under the rug.

Great piece Kevan,
@BeyondUsports

by TheRaj on Aug 11, 2011 12:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess they don't call him Chainsaw Bob for nuthin.

but i won’t be impugning his motives.

*Chris Petersen For President*

by mc.hammertime on Aug 11, 2011 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

BWHAAAAAT????

*Chris Petersen For President*

by mc.hammertime on Aug 11, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahem

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

now that I've read it through it is not as exciting.

He gets more money for being fired right? and I guess being made an example of because of the NCAA junk is a better reason than if if was because Chainsaw Bob got tired of Gene messing up the scheduling (nebraska, alabama, etc)

*Chris Petersen For President*

by mc.hammertime on Aug 11, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He kind of chose to be fired

He had the option of resigning or being fired and between those two options he chose to be fired.
Kustra also made it sound like their where a couple of things that they could have cited as the reason for getting fired and he choose to use the compliance issues.

by Jay Weston on Aug 11, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Howard Schnellenberger begs to differ...

…with this comment:

“the greatest rise to college football prominence in the history of the sport”

by FisheriesDawg on Aug 11, 2011 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Hyperbole

It’s what for breakfast

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hyperbole and fact

I get them confused sometimes.

"Can you smell it? There's a life force in here tonight." - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Aug 11, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

And, let's face, who doesn't?

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gene

I think Gene is the last of the staff that was there before Kustra. He’s gotten rid of them all now!

Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are.
John Wooden

by hoopsbill on Aug 11, 2011 1:02 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Let's see YOU run a university

Gotta be one of the BWiest jobs in the world. And, no, I’m not Bob or his wifey.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gene

Gene is a good man with over a 29 year track record in Boise. Bob is largely a career backroom Republican Illinois politician who was a Lt Gov of in a scandalous Administration. He tried to run for Senate and could not win the primary. He resigned from office for some reason and went out of state for his first big job as President of a small Kentucky school and left as he himself admitted because the regents did not want him as President anymore. About a year later he came to Boise. He has insulted Idaho and ticked off a lot of academia. Do you want your kids to this Boise State? There are a lot of good coaches and teachers and students there who deserve better. I know Boise State can do better than this.

by ArmyBlue on Aug 11, 2011 1:26 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I respectfully disagree with your assessment of Kustra

Except for the “insulted Idaho” part.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here here

We have an OBNUG thread dedicated to insulting Idaho.. The black and gold know they deserve it.

by BSUbluNorange on Aug 11, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

"ticked off a lot of academia."

Academics are in a perpetual state of “ticked off” at every school in the nation. Want to know why faculty feuds are so nasty? Because the stakes are so low.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

For truthiness

Thanks to Ohio State's president, I will never root for a Big Ten football program again (except in extenuating circumstances that aid my primary rooting interest).

by NighthawkWatch on Aug 11, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

1. He has not “ticked off much of academia.” He has actually done much to bring life to a campus that was intellectually (academically) dead under Ruch.

2. That boilerplate about “stakes being so low” is obnoxious, tiresome, and stupid — and also beside the point, since Kustra hasn’t offended “academia.”

by Nicholas Miller on Aug 15, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I always thought it was kind of funny. Mea culpa

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 16, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????

Kustra has brought BSU as an academic school to a whole other level. Boise State Employees love Kustra. Who are you to judge Kustra? Alumni? Emeritus employee?

Both Gene and Kustra are great men, let this pan out and have faith it was done for the right reasons and done properly.

All the people pilling on Kustra kind of remind me of the Brotzman haters from last year…

by BSUbluNorange on Aug 11, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boise State Employees love Kustra

I’m on the fence about Kustra…but this is simply not the case. I’m sure some love him…some tolerate him…and the string of canned employees probably are not so fond of him.

by Drew Roberts on Aug 11, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry but I'd guess very few have a tolerating view of Kustra

Take a poll, people are happy with what he’s done. Some people may not be happy he took the top floor of the admin building over and got banished to the portable units of euclid and beacon and of course those fired aren’t going to like them (Who likes their boss that fired them?) but maybe what you’re saying is that I should edit that statement.

MOST Boise State employees love Kustra

Correction accepted

by BSUbluNorange on Aug 12, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will also respectfully disagree with your assessment...

Kustra is well-respected in Illinois as one of the last “clean” politicians (if you believe there is or was such a thing) to hold a major state office. He served as lieutenant governor under Jim Edgar for two terms (91-98), which was the last time Illinois had a balanced budget and was relatively scandal free politically at the state level. Both Edgar and Kustra had reputations as the rare politicians who tried to do things the right way and for the right reasons. Hardly “scandalous.”

I see Jim Edgar in town every once in a while – he is a professor of something or other at the U of Illinois. I’ve heard people beg him to re-enter the public service sector to clean up Illinois. He was the last governor that the state populace – Democrat AND Republican – actually respected. I served in a think-tank session that included him regarding Illinois government, and he thinks the world of Kustra.

Finally, it is also my understanding that Kustra holds a standing offer to return to the U of Illinois as a professor in political science if he so chooses. He doesn’t need to make any “career moves” because he has options.

Thanks to Ohio State's president, I will never root for a Big Ten football program again (except in extenuating circumstances that aid my primary rooting interest).

by NighthawkWatch on Aug 11, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Addendum...

Kustra didn’t resign from office. He chose not to run for office when Edgar decided not to pursue re-election. He wasn’t interested in taking the governor’s job. That may have been one of the worst things to happen to Illinois politically when Kustra decided not to run for governor in ’98.

Thanks to Ohio State's president, I will never root for a Big Ten football program again (except in extenuating circumstances that aid my primary rooting interest).

by NighthawkWatch on Aug 11, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

REF Addendum

 Sorry to upset you so much and obviously your loyalty to the man is great. He did however start at Eastern Kentucky in July 98 when his term would be over in Jan 99. He is obviously very smart. Edgar did have a scandal with MSI his largest contributor overcharging the state 20 million dollars and there are a lot of people in the Federal Prison because of that. Edgar went to court but in all fairness was never charged. I hope that Kustra can bring the school to the same level as Gene did in sports. Gene had Boise in the top 10 in football and wrestling and competitive in other sports and more importantly he did it the right way and had coaches of character. Outside Idaho the school is not in the top one hundred of all undergraduate schools in academics. I do not see why it is not there, and hope Bob can get it there. It will take the resolve, loyalty,vision, and hard work that Gene has given all these years.

by ArmyBlue on Aug 11, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Edgar had ONE scandal, and it wasn't even one of his own making.

First, we’re talking about ILLINOIS politics, not squeaky-clean Montana or Idaho or Wyoming politics. Having only one scandal in eight years IS squeaky clean for this state. The governor following Edgar, George Ryan, is serving a six-year term in federal prison for rampant corruption. The governor following Ryan, Rod Blagojevich, WILL do prison time for rampant corruption. And then you have Chicago and their strong-arm political tactics both in the state and in the city. Illinois politics is more cutthroat than trying to gain power in the mafia. Edgar was very ticked off about that thing that went down with MSI, he blames himself a great deal for that, and that’s part of the reason he chose not to run for a third term as governor (health also a factor). Elections are in November, man. Taking a job that starts in July of ‘98 when the admin is no longer anything but a caretaker because all the people with enough clout to get stuff done are out campaigning, and the timing doesn’t even raise an eyebrow.

There are literally hundreds of (fully accredited) universities that issue bachelor’s degrees. Consensus seems to be that as long as you do well, it won’t matter much WHAT institution is printed on your degree and transcript. If you’re going to grad school, they’re looking more at your writing skills and critical thinking processes and very little at the name of the institution you’re coming from. Additionally, USNWR bases their rankings off of things like graduation rates within four years, percentage of alumni donating to the university, endowment, number of grad-level programs, etc. It’s ridiculous, and none of the measures they use in my opinion are very accurate for UNDERGRADUATE evaluations. Their rankings are more relevant for those entering grad school programs.

Kustra has done a lot of good things for Boise State since his arrival. He genuinely seems to be interested in building Boise State up into a respected institution, but Boise State has it’s roots as a JC working against it, and the fact that it has only been a fully accredited four year university for about 50 years is a LOT to overcome in a short time. Heck, NNU has been around as a four year institution (established 1913, accredited 1937) for far longer than Boise State (established 1932 as BJC, accredited for bachelor’s degrees in 1965). I am confident Kustra will get Boise State there, but again, the task to build the university up to levels where it is competitive with schools that have been awarding bachelor’s degrees since the late 1800’s is a very tall task. It will likely take another 50 years for BSU to get to that level.

Thanks to Ohio State's president, I will never root for a Big Ten football program again (except in extenuating circumstances that aid my primary rooting interest).

by NighthawkWatch on Aug 11, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sagacity

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 11, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another Cheer

Thank you Ge-en! (clap clap clapclapclap)

Good Night. Game Over. Drive Home Safely.

by MiketheTransplant on Aug 11, 2011 2:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Another Cheer

Thank you Ge-en! (clap clap clapclapclap)

Good Night. Game Over. Drive Home Safely.

by MiketheTransplant on Aug 11, 2011 2:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Really...

I would like to know what other junior college has risen through the ranks to become a top 5 team in the highest level of collegiate football.

I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.

by BSU Guru on Aug 11, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The end of an era and the beginning of our downfall.

Real bad decision. Gene should have had the respect to leave when he wanted on his own terms.

Respect is missing in this decision regardless of the reasons.

Kustra made a career decision of his own by doing this.

We may lose Coach Pete over this, not good.

by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Aug 11, 2011 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Way to be optimistic eh...

Just because Bleymaier got fired doesn’t mean everything is going to fall apart. We still got Coach Pete and a top 10 football program. If fact, maybe Gene has taken Boise State as far as he could. Replacing Bleymaier could turn out to be the best thing that happened to BSU. You know, getting some new perspective is not always a bad thing.

I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.

by BSU Guru on Aug 11, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

We've heard similar lines before...

When Koetter left, it was “the end.”
When Hawkins left, it was the “beginning of our downfall.”
More than a few people doubted we could continue such high levels of performance when team leaders like Zabransky and Tadman left.
More than a few people are no doubt wondering if we can continue such performance when Moore and Martin graduate from the program.

My point is that just because something monumental happens, doesn’t necessarily mean that it is “the beginning” of a downfall. Only time will tell.

FWIW, Kustra doesn’t need to make “career decisions” out of hiring and firing people. He holds a standing offer to return to the University of Illinois or any other state-funded school in the state of his choice and become a professor of political science – he holds a Ph.D. in the subject from Illinois.

Thanks to Ohio State's president, I will never root for a Big Ten football program again (except in extenuating circumstances that aid my primary rooting interest).

by NighthawkWatch on Aug 11, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

No logic here.

You are right finding a bureaucrat is much harder than a top level coach, good thinking.

What are the good old boys that have funded the entire football facility expansion saying?

Maybe Kustra will end up in in congress?

by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Aug 12, 2011 4:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's face it, cheese got moved

I sure hate that Gene is gone. I remember the years before his tenure, but not many. He’s was good for us in the transitions in recent history.

Even though I am not happy he is gone, I am still excited of what could be in the future. This could be a corner turned in our journey towards the goals of this university.

I will not speculate why or who is to blame. I am looking forward, not backward and I suggest you all do this too.

Good luck Gene in your future endeavors!! You still have a lot in front of you.

BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.

by Belexes on Aug 11, 2011 8:06 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Another Theory

There was a story last spring in the Statesman about an assistant tennis coach (maybe she was a graduate assistant) that went to Indianapolis to defend herself and clear her name. She claimed the ‘Clean’ Gene made her the scapegoat for the tennis violations. If I remember right, she said he sat her in a room by herself for hours and interrogated her like she murdered somebody, attempting to get her to admit to involvement in the violations. I’m wondering if her testimony made Gene look like a complete a-hole and Kustra decided he couldn’t have a culture of fear in his athletic department.

-Just a theory

by IDCWBY on Aug 11, 2011 9:34 PM PDT reply actions  

My Concern is Not that He Will Run Out Peterson...

…but what he does when Peterson leaves on his own. Everyone panicked when Dirk Koetter left, but GB brought in Hawk. Then everyone panicked again when Hawkins left, but GB brought in Peterson. It turned out to be a brilliant, planned move. Hopefully the next AD will be on top of it enough to have such a smooth transition again.

by sirluke4 on Aug 11, 2011 11:29 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Bryan Harsin will take the first flight back to Boise when Pete leaves.

In other words, Boise could wear pink-on-pink and still beat you in Bronco Stadium by 30 points. The Broncos could wear pink-on-pink with ankle weights and beat you 14 points. - Paul Myerberg, Pre Snap Read

by Mikrino on Aug 12, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

From your lips to God's ears, buddy

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 12, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fingertips. From my fingertips...

In other words, Boise could wear pink-on-pink and still beat you in Bronco Stadium by 30 points. The Broncos could wear pink-on-pink with ankle weights and beat you 14 points. - Paul Myerberg, Pre Snap Read

by Mikrino on Aug 15, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes...fingertips. Got it.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Aug 16, 2011 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow

Shocking. However, BSU football looks pretty set for the near future as far as what the AD can do for you. Maybe the next AD can help pick it up for the other sports?

by killtacular on Aug 14, 2011 2:35 AM PDT reply actions  

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