Phil Steele spoilers: Complete Boise State team, unit, and individual rankings
by killtacular on Jun 13, 2011 7:41 AM PDT
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PrintEd's note: Leaking Phil Steele information is the new planking. Everyone's doing it, from ESPN blogger Andrea Adelson to Mountain West tycoon Jeremy Mauss. So far we know that Boise State is ranked No. 3 and destined for a Fiesta Bowl with Notre Dame. But that is just the tip of the iceberg.
The rest of the iceberg is after the jump, courtesy of OBNUG reader killtacular and his stellar FanPost that is now a stellar main post. If you enjoy your Phil Steele magazines like you enjoy your Hunger Games novels - suspenseful and uncorrupted - you should probably stop reading here. Spoilers ahead. Enjoy.
Here is the complete rundown, by team, unit, and individual. Parts of this Boise State preview will appear at Steele's website today when he unveils the Broncos in his Top 25 countdown.
Boise State team rankings
Projection for end-of-season rankings: Boise State #3. Behind Alabama and Oklahoma.
Other notables: Georgia #9; TCU #11; Air Force #30; Tulsa #35; San Diego State #44; Nevada #51. This means that, unlike last year, Steele is predicting a BSU undefeated season, and he is higher on a possible NC shot for BSU this year than he was last year.
Power Poll ranking: Boise State #4
Other notables: Georgia #11; TCU #21; Tulsa #39; San Diego State #60. This is more or less Steele's overall quality ranking. The team that sneaks up above BSU at #3? Oregon.
Bowl Projection: Fiesta Bowl (again), against Notre Dame.
Now, while you might scoff at Notre Dame, this isn't that crazy. If Notre Dame gets BCS-eligible, they will absolutely be selected. I dunno how they are going to do against Michigan, Michigan State, USF, Pitt, Air Force, USC and Stanford (etc). But this is a "this is who the bowls will pick" choice, which I suppose could make sense. If Notre Dame gets 9 wins, they are probably going to a BCS bowl.
(ed's note: Notre Dame is BCS eligible if they finish ranked No. 14 or higher. If they are No. 8 or higher, they automatically qualify.)
Other bowl projections: Capital One Bowl: Georgia vs Ohio State (pre Tresselgate); Poinsettia Bowl: Nevada vs Air Force; Hawai'i Bowl: Hawai'i vs SMU; Armed Forces Bowl: Tulsa vs BYU; Las Vegas Bowl: TCU vs Oregon State; Independence Bowl: San Diego State vs Boston College;
Mountain West order of finish
- Boise State
- TCU
- Air Force
- Colorado State
- San Diego State
- Wyoming
- New Mexico
- UNLV
Overall Mountain West national stat projections for Boise State: Scoring Offense: #3. Total Offense: #9. Pass Defense: #6. Scoring Defense: #4. Total Defense #3.
Schedule: 51st Toughest Schedule.
Other notables: Georgia: #53; Tulsa #56; Fresno State #79; Nevada #89; TCU #92; Idaho #97; Air Force #99; Hawai'i #115.
Boise State unit rankings
- QBs: #2 (behind Stanford)
- RBs: #23
- Recievers: Unranked (out of 38)
- OLine: #24
- DLine: #6
- LBs (includes the Venable position): #24
- Dbacks: #22
- STs: #32
Seems pretty reasonable to me, all around.
Boise State individual ratings
- Kellen Moore: 3rd Team All American (behind Landry Jones and Andrew Luck); #8 overall QB; First Team MWC QB; #4 Heisman candidate.
- Doug Martin: #9 overall RB; First Team MWC RB; Possible Heisman Candidate.
- Tyler Shoemaker: First Team MWC WR
- Kyle Efaw: #32 overall TE; 3rd Team MWC TE
- Thomas Byrd: #25 overall C; 1st Team MWC C
- Joe Kellogg: #40 overall G; 2nd Team MWC G
- Nate Potter: 1st Team All American; #2 overall T; 1st Team MWC T
- Shea McClellin: #23 overall DE; 1st Team MWC DE
- Tyrone Crawford: 4th Team MWC DE
- Billy Winn: 2nd Team All American; #4 overall DT; 1st Team MWC DT
- Chase Baker: 2nd Team MWC DT
- Byron Hout: 3rd Team MWC LB
- Aaron Tevis: 3rd Team MWC LB
- Hunter White: 3rd Team MWC LB
- Jamar Taylor: 3rd Team MWC CB
- George Iloka: #9 overall FS; 1st Team MWC S
- Jeremy Ioane: 3rd team MWC S
- Chris Potter: #18 PR; 1st Team MWC PR
- Mitch Burroughs: 4th Team MWC PR
A thing to keep in mind about this: Steele's overall individual rankings are heavily influenced by where he thinks people will be drafted. Hence Moore's low rating. Steele's All-Americans are heavily influenced by how he thinks the team will do. Hence Landry Jones' 1st team All-American ranking. His position rankings are his purest quality rankings. This is why BSU is #2 in QB rankings (behind Andrew Luck and Stanford), and why BSU has decent rankings for DBs, LBs etc; even though they don't have much in the way of overall individual rankings.
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I actually could have done this a few weeks ago, because for some reason my local grocery store puts the magazine out before its “official” release date :).
#3 overall scoring offense??
Behind who?
You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.
I'm guessing one of them is Oregon
I’m not sure who the other team would be. Tulsa? Oklahoma?
"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." -- Dan Hawkins
That would be understanable but...
Overall Mountain West stat projections for Boise State: Scoring Offense: #3. Total Offense: #9
You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.
Good point...Not sure who they think will score more than Boise
BUT if we play like we did last year where we pull our starters in the 1st part of the 3rd quarter, it may be hard to compete with TCU who doesn’t.
by 4EverBleedBlue on Jun 13, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I apparently glossed over that
We finished #2 in the country last year (45.1 ppg) so I figured Steele was saying we will be #3 in the country. But #3 in the MWC? Did some teams pick up some super offensive weapons in the off season? TCU was the tops in the MWC last year (41.5 ppg) but they lost a ton of weapons on offensive. San Diego State was #2 in the MWC (35 ppg) and lost their top 2 receivers. Does Steele figure that TCU and San Diego State are going to find it easier to replace their losses than Boise? BSU has finished the last 7 years averaging 36 PPG or more. I have a feeling this year, the coaches are not going to let their foot off the gas as much as they did last year so I could realistically see another 45 PPG average. There are 2 MWC teams that can do better (40 ppg or more)? I doubt it.
"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." -- Dan Hawkins
Crap
That was my bad. Those are the national projections, not the mountain west projections. I wonder if I can still edit this post.
You can edit your own post, but no one, cept maybe the big guys, can edit comments...unless
you pay an extra $10. a month and then you get an edit button and a beercan key chain.
If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011
Houston and Oregon are ahead of BSU in scoring offense.
"You're never as good as everyone tells you when you win, and you're never as bad as they say when you lose." -Lou Holtz
Thanks
And I hope you don’t mind I edited it to fix an error of mine (regarding national projections rather than just MWC ones).
Who were the top 2 defenses?
I’m guessing that Phil believes TCU will lead the nation again in Total Defense but I’m not sure who would be #2.
"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." -- Dan Hawkins
by smurfturfer on Jun 14, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
hey
sorry to get back to you late, I’ve been out of town for a while.
The #1 and #2 total defenses and the #1 and #2 scoring defenses are Alabama and Penn State (in that order). The #3 scoring defense is Nebraska.
by killtacular on Jun 22, 2011 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
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2012 Boise State Football Schedule
@ Michigan State  |
Fri 08/31 | 6:00 p.m. MT |
| Miami (OH) | Sat 09/15 | 2:00 p.m. MT |
| BYU |
Thu 09/20 | TBA |
| @ New Mexico | Sat 09/29 | TBA |
| @ Southern Miss | Sat 10/06 | TBA |
| Fresno State | Sat 10/13 | 1:30 p.m. MT |
| UNLV | Sat 10/20 | 1:30 p.m. MT |
| @ Wyoming |
Sat 10/27 | 1:30 p.m. MT |
| San Diego State | Sat 11/03 | 8:30 p.m. MT |
| @ Hawaii | Sat 11/10 | 5:00 p.m. MT |
| Colorado St. | Sat 11/17 | 1:30 p.m. MT |
| @ Nevada | Sat 12/1 | TBA |
