The Cliffs Notes version of Boise State football's NCAA violations
by Kevan Lee on May 4, 2011 12:08 PM PDT
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PrintSo you heard that Boise State got in trouble from the NCAA, and you want to know more. Like, what does this mean for the football team? And, why does the NCAA hate hide-a-beds so much? And, where can I sign up for women's tennis?
Well, thankfully there is a truckload of reporting on the topic, and just as thankfully, OBNUG has made a handy Cliffs Notes version for your Internet perusal. Join me after the jump for an overview of the Boise State Infractionpalooza, what it all means, and just how crazy the NCAA really is.
Story: "Boise State imposes penalties on athletics" by Brian Murphy, Idaho Statesman
Recap
The Bronco football team took the initiative to impose its own penalties prior to a formal NCAA hearing on June 10. Those penalties include forefeiture of three scholarships and six preseason practices over the course of the next two years. Also, Coach Pete and staff received a letter from the school about the rules violations. Rumored title: "Transgressors: Dark Side of the Couch."
It is possible that the NCAA will hand down stiffer sanctions if they indeed find Boise State guilty of lack of institutional control.
Also of note: The NCAA wrote a 39-page paper to Boise State in December, outlining the violations. Boise State responded with a 1,500-page paper ... single-spaced in Comic Sans, one would hope.
Story: "Boise State plans to show it has control of athletics" by Brian Murphy, Idaho Statesman
Recap
The Statesman got hold of Boise State's 1,500-page response to the NCAA thanks to the Freedom of Information Act and the world's largest thumb drive. That response acknowledges that rules were violated (stupid rules, but still ...), but the school vehemently denies a "lack of institutional control," even when it comes to the school's egregiously lax women's tennis team. Let BSU prez Bob Kustra tell you how it is:
"I don't think the institutional control charge is fair when it comes to the tennis violation," Kustra said. "We had no way of knowing a coach would do those things. When we found out, immediately we fired him. That's what I call institutional control."
Warning: Do not try rational arguments with the NCAA, Dr. Kustra.
Story: "Boise State's most serious violation," by the Idaho Statesman staff
Recap
Based on the specific details of the women's tennis violations, it sounds like former Boise State women's tennis coach Mark Tichenor had his heart in the right place. The recruit who received improper benefits was struggling to learn the English language, and many of the expenses went toward English classes and tests that were required for enrollment. Of course, Tichenor and staff also lied about every single aspect of this player's recruitment and actually played her in a tournament when she wasn't part of the team. So yes, I could see how the NCAA would frown upon that.
Story: "Boise State dealing with NCAA infractions," by Dave Southorn, Idaho Press-Tribune
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Noteworthy: A final decision from the NCAA could take months. It could be the Duke Nukem of sanction reporting.
Story: "Boise State self-imposes sanctions," by Andrea Adelson, ESPN
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According to Andrea Adelson, Boise State's self-imposed preseason practice ban may have the biggest impact because "that Virginia Tech game wasn't exactly a work of art." Also, Boise State lost to Georgia in 2005.
Story: "Petersen responds to NCAA allegations," by Mark Johnson and Ryan Larrondo, KTVB
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A former Portland State athletic director thinks Boise State screwed the pooch on this one.
Story: "What are the 22 allegations that the NCAA is making against Boise State?" by Brian Murphy, Idaho Statesman
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The NCAA found 20 major violations against Boise State, including the aforementioned Sleepover Scandal by the football team. The NCAA considers these to be major violations because "they are not secondary violations." Conclusion: The NCAA needs a thesarus.
Story: "Boise State football tried to fix summer housing issue, created more NCAA violations," by Brian Murphy, Idaho Statesman
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You'll really like this one.
Boise State worked directly with the NCAA in order to comply with the summer housing rules only to find out days before its 2009 season opener against Oregon that - oh by the way - the way they were doing it was still wrong and they either had to come clean on 23 more violations or risk future penalties that could involve vacated wins. What a crazy, Two and a Half Men premise this turned out to be!
Bronco coaches were led to believe that everything was above board so long as incoming players did not receive housing or meals or transportation for free. Turns out, Bronco coaches cannot even arrange any type of housing/meals/transportation. To avoid playing the Oregon game with ineligible players, the Broncos reported the additional violations and received reinstatements for the offending players.
This will make a great Idaho Shakespeare Festival play some day. Seth Rogen is Brian Murphy in The Taming of the Air Mattress!
Your turn
What do you make of all these allegations? Has the NCAA lost its mind? Will you ever sleep on a couch again without feeling a tinge of remorse? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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thanks for the recap.
will you be including some of the national stuff too?
12 years in a row. 22-17-1 overall record.
Suck it Vandals
Twitter: @damienbsu
This is crap...
Thank goodness Auburn, North Carolina, or Ohio State didn’t have their student-athletes sleep on couches or get free meals or transportation. Otherwise, they would be facing the dreaded lack of institutional control charges right now.
I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.
OSU is facing a repeat violater charge. It can have the same consequences (actually WORSE) than the
lack of institutional control.
Frankly, I am not that interested in the UNC case to talk about it intelligently; however, I don’t think you can compare the two honestly – given that they had to keep players out, etc. and loss scholarship players. In that case, the players received extra benefits — we’re talking CASH, not an air mattress, or a couch — AND the players also lied about it once questioned AND lied to the NCAA (the same allegation being made against Tressel). The UNC case is still an open case. UNC didn’t do, as far as I know, what BSU has done, which is self-impose penalties. HOWEVER, most folks are expecting UNC to lose more than 3 scholarships, and have more USC type penalties (post-season ban, etc.)
The Auburn case, IMO, is going to lead to more penalties. It doesn’t change the fact that Newton got to play in the SEC championship and a BCS bowl. It’s also different in a number of ways.
I'd rather be surfing.
by Pac 10 Alum on May 4, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for making something not so funny so dam funny!
I just can’t see them making hey of these charges against the football team. I know, I know, It’s the NCAA. But I think with all the media backlash and the self-imposed penalties it won’t happen. I think they must know that their credibility is seriously damaged as it is. They can’t be that stupid. Can they?
there is no 'Z' in 'Boise'
there is no 'O' in 'Petersen'
there is no edit button on SBNation
by Boise State of Mind on May 4, 2011 12:33 PM PDT reply actions
I caught College Football Live last night on sheer chance
Fowler was actually interviewing Caves on the phone (yes, I know). After the interview, Fowler turns to Desmond Howard and both say, essentially, that the NCAA looks way worse here than BSU.
You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.
Guess what...
The PAC-12 just signed a 2.7 billion dollar contract with the NCAA. Just thought I would point out the irony of that.
I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.
The Pac-12 contract is with FOX and ESPN. The NCAA has nothing to do with conference TV rights,
just as the NCAA has nothing to do with BSU’s contract with the WAC for it’s TV coverage in the recent past, or going forward with BSU’s contracts or the MWC’s contracts.
I'd rather be surfing.
by Pac 10 Alum on May 4, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
since
the football team imposed its own penalties which include the forfeiture of three scholarships, what are the chances that if over the course of the next couple months our coaches and players are on such good behavior we can reinstate those scholarships a la Chip “BC” Kelly and LaGarrette Blount????
Different issues
The loss of a scholarship is different than a team member being kicked off a team due to disciplinary behavior, etc.
I'd rather be surfing.
by Pac 10 Alum on May 4, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a question
How should you m explain your argument to the NCAA?
by wetter67 on May 4, 2011 1:53 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Wait a second...
When I was in High school, back in the 90’s I played football. I went to visit my sister at BYU as I was considering going to school there and thought it would be cool to check it out. BYU rules did not allow me to sleep at my sisters apartment, so I crashed at a friend of hers place who also happened to be on the football team. Additionally his roommate was a rugby player. We ate breakfast together in the morning. Based on the infractions that were reported to the NCAA regarding the violations, BYU is also guilty of having violations because, at the time, I was a high school football player, potentially a recruit (If any colleges really wanted a short 130 lb WR, I was their guy…No one did…) so the same thing happened here because these guys thought my sister was cute and wanted to help me out? All this while Newton’s father, the Reverend, is actively shopping his child’s services to the highest bidder, UNC is having Hotel scandals, and OSU is selling jerseys for Tattoos while their coach hides it… Of all these problems in the NCAA, I’d say lets get the guys that let a kid crash on their couch!
I knew this fb program was up to no good!!
Good for the NCAA!! One time I was at the Chick-fil-A (on Boise State’s campus) and Kellen Moore offered me one of his french fries. At first I was like isn’t this illegal…Kellen winked at me and cackled wickedly and assured me that everything was under control and that BSU was invincible. I wanted to report the violation at that time, but was concerned that the retribution would be harsh. I hope now that these allegations have surfaced more brave souls will step forward and the ugly truth will fully be revealed.
by csf68 on May 4, 2011 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It is good a good thing that the NCAA is finally cracking down
…at first its just a casual grill cheese sandwich here and there and a smelly coach to sleep on…but these are just gateway violations that lead to more insidious charges. If the NCAA hadn’t stepped in Boise State might have let new recruits sleep on a futon mattress and then God forbid an acutal mattress…next you see new recruits start super sizing meals at McDonald’s and the whole fb program is beyond saving..at that point.
by csf68 on May 4, 2011 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
yea, but
At least none of there dad’s tried to profit from it! Everything would have been okay if they would have just traded the food, rides, and couches for tattoos!
by Bryan Kinsey on May 4, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Justice system Investigation
The justice system is investigating the Playoff system and the BCS and here is the BCS response: ""Goodness gracious, with all that’s going on in the world right now and with national and state budgets being what they are, it seems like a waste of taxpayers’ money to have the government looking into how college football games are played,"
I think we could also say, ""Goodness gracious, with all that’s going on in the world right now and with national and state budgets being what they are UNC, tOSU, and Cam Newton, it seems like a waste of taxpayers’ the NCAA’s money to have the government NCAA looking into how college football games are played, recruits are fed and quartered on a player’s couch " he said.
I can see a penalty
being handed down right before the 2011 season kicks off that would remove our chances for Bowl contention effective immediately and the loss of additional scholarships. But hey, obviously our potential players and coaches didn’t know about these as being infractions. So that should clearly excuse the actions of the football team. Also, while we are gonna get ass raped by the NCAA, Ohio state will make it through this evaluation from the NCAA with nothing more than the 5 game suspension of Tressel and the involved players in the tattoo debacle. And lets not forget about Cam Newton….. Jim Tressel, Auburn, anc Cam Newton just sent a big gift basket to Boise St thanking them for taking the spotlight off of their “respective” schools…..
from what i've gathered from various forums and such...
this probably only added fuel to the OSU/Auburn/UNC fire, at least from a fan standpoint.
"Or, if boarding the bus is just too difficult for an Establishmentarian to do, get your snob school to schedule the Broncos home-and-home. Any takers?" - Pat Forde
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by reflectivity on May 4, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm probably not the first to suggest this....
But who else thinks that this could be a jab at BSU for Gene doing so much smack talking about the BCS? While I understand that these may have been legitimate violations (however pithy they are), I have read that Ohio State committed something like 400 of these violations over a ten year period. Not to kick them while they are down, but that was the example given.
Sounds like they have an axe to grind and they are going to take it out on our football program. The tennis story is interesting though. So much for helping someone out…
The Pac-12 tv contract is interesting too (on an unrelated note). I sure am glad we signed up for that Mtn network or whatever the hell that abolition is called. Now I only have to sign up for dish and cable one to catch all the games? SWEET
See Idaho Statesmen - investigation dates from 2009
I'd rather be surfing.
by Pac 10 Alum on May 5, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I just watched College Football Live,
and Mike Bellotti said something very interesting. He was asked if this type of thing happens on other football teams in the nation. I don’t remember the quote word-for-word, but he said “Absolutely.” This type of “violation” is very common in college football. He then said that every team in that nation is making sure they are checking to make sure they don’t get nailed for it.
http://broncochase.blogspot.com/
I don't get it
As the father of a son who played college basketball. I don’t guess understand some of the rules. My son went to play for a college in Oregon. Tthe coach gave us the name of a lady that provided room and board for some of the athletes at this school (not cheap). We paid his room and board, But because the coach made this arrangement, was this an NCAA violation?
Must be something about those Oregon schools
My daughter was recruited for track and cross country at an Oregon college; she met the coach and team and PRACTICED with the team for one day. If memory serves me correctly, she stayed overnight in a dorm room. These egregious activities occurred while she was still an impressionable high school student. Is that a violation?
by nothingveryclever on May 5, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Official visits are one thing
That’s why recruits are limited to a certain number of official visits, length of trips, etc.
I'd rather be surfing.
by Pac 10 Alum on May 5, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Broncos will start season against bulldogs with one hoof tied...and still stomp them!
That win will impress voters and media to the point that when Broncs are undefeated at end of year and KM has less than 3-4 INT all season, BSU will go to NCG and KM will be a legitimate Heisman winner
"High profile players demand high profile compliance", P. Dees, NCAA Chair. Refc. pending inquiries to tOSU, Auburn, USC...
I doubt this goes past the self imposed penalties.
For the Football team. This should be a afterthought before too long. On the Tennis side though it will likely be a major punishment. However it now puts BSU in the NCAA’s cross hairs and if something else happens to come up (regardless of sport) it could lead to much harsher punishment across all sports. Personally I think BSU has self imposed quite a bit considering how petty the infratctions were.
Sleeping on floor/couch? Gotta' be kiddin' me. As for women's tennis, the only time I think about them is when
there’s a photo or film of them bending over. That’s why I like women’s volley ball, because those fanny shorts allow for unobstructed view of their rearends. just doing what I can to elevate the conversation. You don’t have to thank me, no, seriously, no really.
tvmunson
by tmunson on May 5, 2011 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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