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Mr. Fiskers sets Brian Murphy straight on this whole NFL Draft business

Idaho Statesman reporter Brian Murphy hit the blogs this week with an epiphany: Boise State loses to teams with high NFL draft picks. So what has Pat Hill been doing wrong all these years?

Needless to say, there are some holes in Murphy's logic, or rather, there is some logic in Brian Murphy's holes. However you look at it, Murphy's NFL Draft post needs some perspective and sound reasoning and a good deal of snark to keep the mood light. I know just the fisking cat for the job.

Enjoy this special NFL Draft edition of Mr. Fiskers, everyone. 

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Fisking is a point-by-point criticism that highlights perceived errors, or disputes the analysis in a statement, article, or essay. Mr. Fiskers is OBNUG's fisking cat. He has hyperthyroidism.

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Getting a blog was one of the best things to happen to Brian Murphy since hipster beards became chic. He posts regularly on topics such as baseball and Donald Glover concerts and Freedom of Information Acts and oh yeah sometimes sports. Like the other day, when Murphy made the claim that the Boise State football team has a predisposition to lose to opponents stocked with NFL Draft picks

Mr. Fiskers is not convinced, mainly because Brian Murphy failed to do things such as use all the facts and see the big picture. Minor details, am I right? No, I am wrong. Let Mr. Fiskers show us the path to enlightenment.

HEADLINE: How do you beat Boise State's football team? Start with a high NFL Draft pick on offense

... then finish by scoring more than the Broncos. Brilliant!

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They have another thing in common:

Peter King Facebook friend requests?

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An affinity for stringy back packs?

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No NFL future?

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Each led a team to victory against Boise State in the Chris Petersen era.

Considering the Broncos are 61-5 under Petersen, I found this nugget interesting.

No, Mr. Fiskers. Do not eat that nugget. Your stomach cannot digest food solids! We've been over this!

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So I did a little digging - and a little analysis about what it could mean for the Broncos in 2011.

Here is the big picture review:

In Boise State's last six losses - dating back to the 2005 bowl loss against Boston College in Dan Hawkins' final game as coach - ...

Why that game in particular, you might ask? Because the loss prior to Boston College came at the hands of 2005 Fresno State with Paul Pinegar at quarterback. Rule No. 1 of journalism: If the data don't fit, you must quit using that data. 

Moving on!

... the opposing team had at least one first- or second-round NFL Draft pick or a Heisman Trophy finalist on offense.

Note: Brian Murphy just completely changed the premise in his headline by adding Heisman finalists to the list of ways to beat Boise State. Congratulations to those of you who had "three sentences" in the abandoned thesis office pool. You win a new car!

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In five of the losses, that player was a quarterback. In the other instance, a running back.

Conclusion: It helps to have good players touch the ball a lot. Brian Murphy is to Boise State football as Mary Hart is to Royal Wedding coverage: just a pretty face pointing out obvious things.

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(Note: This assumes that Kaepernick, Locker and Dalton will be selected in the first or second round, which seems pretty safe at this point.)

We interrupt this Brian Murphy column for some actual news: The Tennessee Titans may take Andy Dalton with the No. 8 overall pick. Mr. Fiskers will now eat grapes.

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The teams that defeated Boise State since 2005 also had at least one other high NFL pick (defined for this exercise as a first-, second- or third-rounder) on the team, usually on defense.

Wait ... you can be drafted in the third round and still be considered a high NFL Draft pick? That should make Ohio University WR Taylor Price (No. 90 overall, 2010) pretty happy. To the resume builder, my friend!

Some of the teams, notably Boston College in 2005 and TCU in 2009, were stocked with NFL picks.

A closer look

Dec. 28, 2005: Boston College 27, Boise State 21 (MPC Computers Bowl in Boise)

In Hawkins' final game - Petersen was the offensive coordinator and had been named head coach, but Hawkins coached the game before leaving for Colorado - Boise State faced a team of loaded with future NFL Draft prospects.

Offensive star: Quarterback Matt Ryan - who went 19-of-36 for 256 yards and three touchdowns in the bowl game - was the No. 3 pick overall by the Atlanta Falcons in 2008 and has blossomed into an above average NFL quarterback. Atlanta was the No. 1 seed in the NFC playoffs in 2010.

Next week on As The Murph Turns: "Want to beat Boise State? Have players who go on to play for No. 1 seeds in the NFC playoffs." 

But in all seriousness (and despite the fact that it pains me deeply), let us examine that Boston College loss. First, this 2005 Boise State team was one of the worst Boise State teams in the past decade, which isn't to say that they were awful but that they were certainly capable of losing all on their own and without the intervention of FUTURE NFL DRAFT PICKS FROM ROUNDS ONE TO THREE OR MAYBE FOUR IF THAT IS CONVENIENT FOR THE DATA. 

Matt Ryan had a good game against the Broncos, but he did not have a great game. He barely completed more than 50 percent of his passes, and he averaged less than 10 yards per attempt. All his touchdown passes came in the first half. 

On the opposite side of the field, Jared Zabransky played like hot garbage. He threw a pick, got replaced by Taylor Tharp for awhile, then threw another pick in the end zone with a chance to take the lead in the final minute. What I remember about that game was Zabransky's bad play and Dan Hawkins' horrible game management, not that Matt Ryan was headed for future NFL stardom. 

Other high picks: Defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka was selected with the last pick of the first round (No. 32 overall) by the New York Giants in 2006. Offensive lineman Jeremy Trueblood went in the second round (59th overall) and cornerback Will Blackmon was picked in the fourth round (No. 115 overall) that year.

In 2007, Boston College produced two more mid-round NFL draftees. In 2008, offensive lineman Gosder Cherilus was selected in the first round (No. 17 overall). In 2009, defensive tackle B.J. Raji was a first-round pick (No. 9 overall) to the Green Bay Packers.

All told, the Eagles had four first-round picks and a second-round selection on the team.

This conclusively proves that Boston College has a football team. YOUR MOVE, historians. Find me Noah's Ark.

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Sept. 8, 2007: Washington 24, Boise State 10 (in Seattle)

Offensive star: Redshirt freshman quarterback Jake Locker completed 13 of 25 passes for 193 yards and one touchdown and one interception. Locker also had a rushing touchdown in the game. Now Locker - who had an uneven career at Washington - is a potential first-round draft pick.

Other high picks: In 2009, Linebacker Donald Butler (third round, 79th overall) and defensive end Daniel Te'o-Nesheim (third round, 86th overall) were selected.

Really? Jake Locker is a terrible quarterback, and Boise State should have never lost this game. I blame Taylor Tharp. Others might blame the secondary. Some could blame an unfortunate Ryan Clady holding penalty.

I cannot think of anyone who credits the future NFL greatness of Jake Locker for winning this game.

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OK. maybe one person.

Nov. 23, 2007: Hawaii 39, Boise State 27 (in Honolulu)

Offensive star: Senior quarterback Colt Brennan, who was a Heisman Trophy finalist in 2007, completed 40-of-53 passes for 495 yards and five touchdowns. He was picked in the sixth round of the 2008 NFL Draft by the Washington Redskins.

Other high pick: Defensive end David Veikune was picked in the second round (No. 52) overall in the 2008 draft.

The problem with this pick, as Mr. Fiskers and I will point out below, is that acknowledging the fact that Brennan torched the Broncos this one time in a big Hawaii win fails to account for the other two times that Boise State beat Brennan and the Warriors. But for now ... yes, Colt Brennan played pretty well this game. We'll allow it. 

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Of note: Wide receiver Davone Bess had 14 catches for 171 yards and two touchdowns in the win. Bess went undrafted in 2008, but has become a key contributor for the Miami Dolphins.

Next time on Days of Our Murph: "Want to beat Boise State? Have players who make NFL rosters at any point in their lifetime."

Dec. 23, 2007: East Carolina 41, Boise State 38 (Hawaii Bowl)

Offensive star: Running back Chris Johnson had 408 all-purpose yards, including 223 yards rushing and two touchdowns (one rushing, one receiving) in the win. In 2008, he was selected in the first round (No. 24 overall) by the Tennessee Titans and became just the sixth NFL rusher to amass more than 2,000 yards in a single-season in 2009. He was the NFL Offensive Player of the Year that season, when he broke the league's record for all-purpose yards.

Other high picks: Defensive tackle Linval Joseph (second round, 46th overall) and tight end Davon Drew (fifth round) also were drafted.

Yes, Chris Johnson counts. That's one. (One-and-a-half, if you count Brennan.)

Dec. 23, 2008: TCU 17, Boise State 16 (Poinsettia Bowl in San Diego)

Offensive star: Quarterback Andy Dalton completed 22-of-35 passes for 197 yards and one interception. He could be a first- or second-round selection this year.

Other high picks: The true star of that TCU game was the defense.

So ... Boise State also loses to teams with good defenses? What's next? Teams with French-American quarterbacks?

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Defensive end Jerry Hughes, who had one sack, was selected in the first round (31st overall) by the Indianapolis Colts in 2009. In 2010, linebacker Daryl Washington (second round, 47th overall).

Of note: In addition, the Horned Frogs had five other players - three defensive - selected in final three rounds of the 2009 draft and one more in 2010.

Please don't tell me we're starting to include fifth through seventh round picks.

OF NOTE: TCU is in Forth Worth. Continue.

Nov. 26, 2010: Nevada 34, Boise State 31 OT (in Reno)

Offensive star: Quarterback Colin Kaepernick completed 19-of-35 passes for 259 yards and one touchdown. He also rushed for 45 yards and a key touchdown in the Wolf Pack's comeback victory.

Here lies one of the major flaws in Murphy's post. How do you reconcile the fact that half of the players on this list lost to Boise State as many times or more times than they beat them? 

  • Colin Kaepernick's career record against Boise State is 1-3.
  • Colt Brennan was a career 1-2.
  • Andy Dalton was 1-1.

If Boise State loses to teams with high NFL draft picks, then why didn't they go 0-for-4 against the Kaep Attack? Why wasn't Colt Brennan undefeated against the Broncos? 

For Kaepernick and Brennan, you could make the case that the theory only applies at the end of your college career when you are conceivably at your peak. But that doesn't work. Boise State lost to Dalton when he was a sophomore and beat him when he was a junior. The Broncos lost to freshman Jake Locker and senior Chris Johnson. There is no correlation.

We might as well be saying: "Want to see a good Vin Diesel movie? Start with one that has cars."

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... or "Want to make a sandwich? Start with a pita pocket."

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 ... or "Want to win Dancing With the Stars? Dress like a sailor."

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This draft argument is going nowhere.

Other high pick: Defensive end Dontay Moch is projected as a mid-second round selection.

Of note: Wide receiver Rishard Matthews, who had a monster game against Boise State, could eventually be a NFL Draft prospect.

So no other high picks then.

Lessons

There are lessons to be learned?! No, Mr. Fiskers. Get out of that car with Rebecca Black. Life is still worth living. It's not even Friday yet!

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It usually takes superior offensive talent to beat the Broncos. 

Superior talent? Superior to what? The Broncos? Other WAC teams? I don't understand. Needs more slideshow.

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Ryan, Brennan, Johnson and Kaepernick had stellar performances in their victories.

I have been asked several times lately what Boise State's record will be in 2011. Like most observers, I point to the Georgia and TCU games as the biggest stumbling blocks to an undefeated season. The upper- and mid-tier Mountain West Conference teams should also provide tougher challenges week in and week out than the Broncos have faced in recent years, perhaps increasing the chances of an "unexpected" loss.

Do not ask Brian Murphy what he thinks Boise State's record will be in 2011. You will be 100 years old by the time he's done. 

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Perhaps we should also be consulting the NFL Draft prospects of opponents' key offensive player, especially their quarterbacks.

Perhaps we should be consulting team strengths and weaknesses.

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Among 2011 opponents, Georgia's Aaron Murray stands out as a potential NFL prospect. Fresno State's Derek Carr, a redshirt sophomore without a career start, certainly has the size and bloodlines to be considered a potential NFL Draft pick.

So when asked about Boise State's record this year, Brian Murphy tells people that the Broncos will lose to Georgia and Fresno State. Wonderful.

But sometimes it's hard to know. Before this season, few would have considered Dalton and Kaepernick likely high NFL picks.

The lesson here: The NFL has no idea what it's doing.

Other notes

The 2005 Georgia team, which defeated Boise State in the season opener, had 11 players drafted in the next two years. Cornerback Tim Jennings was the highest pick - second round, No. 62 overall in 2006.

But their quarterback was D.J. Shockley who didn't get drafted. Does not compute. Your argument is invalid.

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The 2006 Oklahoma team, which Boise State beat in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl, 12 players drafted in the next three years and kicker Garrett Hartley, who was undrafted, has become a solid NFL player. The highest pick was running back Adrian Peterson (first round, No. 7 overall in 2007). The Sooners also had two second-round selections in the 2008 draft.

Next time on Desperate Murphwives: "Want to beat Boise State? Don't have high NFL draft picks on your team."

The 2008 Oregon team, which Boise State defeated in Eugene, had nine players drafted the next two years, a figure that does not include running back LeGarrette Blount, who made it to an NFL roster as undrafted free agent. The highest selection was safety Patrick Chung (second round, No. 34 overall in 2009). The Ducks had three second-round selections in 2009 and another in 2010.

Not to mention that Boise State defeated the Ducks in 2009 and that team featured LaMichael James in a pretty large role. He was a Heisman finalist the following year, and he could very well be drafted in the first two rounds next season.

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And thus ends Brian Murphy's article. Conclusions? Lessons? Entire portions of reason missing?

One of the most painfully obvious fallacies Murphy makes is avoiding the topic of Boise State beating teams that had high draft picks on the roster. He makes brief mention of Oklahoma's Adrian Peterson. But there were others. Lots of others. Here are just a couple of notable ones:

 

  • Fresno State RB Ryan Mathews (2010, No. 12 overall) - Mathews was the second running back off the board last year and was universally praised as a future NFL star. He never beat the Broncos in his Fresno career. 
  • Idaho OG Mike Iupati (2010, No. 17 overall) - Let's call this Exhibit A in the debunking of Murphy's NFL Draft theory. Idaho was terrible. Iupati was really good. That's all.

 

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Murphy based a good deal of his article on speculation that Kaepernick and Dalton would indeed be drafted high this weekend. Well, the same can be true of fellow 2011 draft prospects on teams the Broncos beat the last few years. Virginia Tech RB Ryan Williams is considered the second-best back in the draft and is a sure bet to go in the first two rounds. Oregon State boasts the No. 6 defensive tackle in Stephen Paea who was graded similar to Titus Young. Utah corner Brandon Burton may be one of the top ten corners, which could mean a second round pick. Boise State beat all three of those teams last year.

There is just too much data against Murphy's claim. It plain doesn't work.

Correlation does not equal causation. Just because five teams beat Boise State with NFL-ready players does not mean that Boise State is predisposed to losing to teams with NFL-ready players. 

Is it interesting that someone from each of Boise State's last five losses got drafted high? I guess. 

Is it at all predictive or factual or true? Not at all. 

Until next time, Mr. Fiskers wishes you all a happy draft weekend and reminds you to read carefully. You never know who they'll give blogs to these days.

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Go get em Fisk!

"Now show me on this doll where the mean linebacker touched you."

by PrfctSpcmn on Apr 28, 2011 9:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Sick it in, and break it off Mr. Fisker's

Mr. Fisker’s is going tot ake BM to the vet to get ‘tutored’.
Love that cat !!!!!! Made my whole week.

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Apr 28, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You, sir, have just cut a PILE of wood. good job!

"… There are so many times in life that you’re just extremely disappointed and depressed and in the tank and you still have to perform and you still have to rally and you still have to move forward and that’s, to me, the lesson right now. That’s true toughness when you can perform at your best when you just don’t feel like it." Coach Petersen Nov, 2010

by NotsoSchizo on Apr 28, 2011 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Mr. Fiskers in Colt's hair made my day.

Murph’s Turf? More like Murph’s turds.

Next time, a break down of why coach Pete getting beat and lack of killer instincts in his own fun run, will translate into loses on the football field this season.

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by forseyfan36 on Apr 28, 2011 9:32 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Correlation does not equal causation

Mr Fiskers, brilliant use of that!

Hope murph reads this and feels shame

by BSUbluNorange on Apr 28, 2011 9:34 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I read that article

and kept thinking some of the same things about Murph’s logic. Seems like he just took a correlation and ran with it. Maybe the real point is, you don’t even have a slight chance of beating the Broncos without NFL prospects on your team, and even then you’ll lose more than you’ll win so good luck! I have to say, Mr. Fiskers is my favorite segment of this blog or any other out there.

by scoleman on Apr 28, 2011 9:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes, I think that was his point ...

… it just got lost inside all the strange data and logic.

"I did not send you to go-kart camp." - Maury Garner

by Kevan Lee on Apr 28, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry I didnt read the hole article...

But did you bring up the teams that had high round NFL prospects that BSU beat?

Didn’t Fresno have a 1st round RB 2 years ago?
Oregon had a Heisman Finalist (before he went lunnie).
Oklahoma had Adrian Peterson.

P.S. I dont follow the NFL so there are probably a lot more.

by Jay Weston on Apr 28, 2011 9:44 AM PDT reply actions  

there was a hole article too?!

I just wasted my time with this stupid football one!

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Apr 28, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Meh,

I didn’t get the sense from Murph’s article that BSU was doomed when faced with teams sporting future high NFL Draft picks, rather that it is a necessary ingredient. He’s basically saying that any team that doesn’t have a few of the best guys on the field when facing BSU has practically no chance.

And when you consider the fact that Kaep & Brennan were 1-3 & 1-2, respectively, against the Broncos, it becomes clear that it takes more than superior talent to beat the Broncos. This is a testament to our coaching staff and the way they scheme, game-plan, and prepare the team mentally & physically.

"Shiloh Keo got a MOUTHFUL of Doug Martin!" - Joe Tessitore

by D_Summit on Apr 28, 2011 9:45 AM PDT reply actions  

And I just realized...

that I put Kaep & “superior talent” in the same sentence. I just threw up in my mouth.

"Shiloh Keo got a MOUTHFUL of Doug Martin!" - Joe Tessitore

by D_Summit on Apr 28, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree (somewhat) ...

… you said it more succinctly than Murph, D_Summit. The only problems I have are that Boise State has lost to teams with no star players before (2005 Fresno) and that the star players haven’t necessarily played great when their teams beat the Broncos (Locker/Kaepernick). If you need great players to beat the Broncos but your good players don’t need to play great, then why need great players? Whoa. Headache.

"I did not send you to go-kart camp." - Maury Garner

by Kevan Lee on Apr 29, 2011 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone luvs Mr. Fiskers

Chrissie will be along to hand out those heart thingies anytime now.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Apr 28, 2011 9:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Murphy is retarded

He almost makes Bleacher Report look credible.

by forum8usa on Apr 28, 2011 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

100% correct.

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Apr 28, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Deep Thoughts" by Brian Murphy

“You know, somtimes when I think too hard about things I know very little about, it helps to pick my nose.”

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Apr 28, 2011 9:48 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Hey now, I have a beard too!

And Brian Murphy makes me want to shave it.

by Nick Kroes on Apr 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I have a beard too

but seeing Brian Murphy in a dress doesn’t make me want to wear one of those. Just look at a picture of James Harden or Chuck Norris and you’ll immediately feel better about your beard.

by forum8usa on Apr 28, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pfft.

I’ve had a beard since you were wearing Zubaz and No Fear.

by Drew Roberts on Apr 28, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd for making me miss my no fear shirts

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by reflectivity on Apr 28, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want this shirt!

What a great shirt with an honest statement. No consolation kisses or esteem building bandanas here. Great shirt!

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Apr 28, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did I mention it's a great shirt? Wow!

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Apr 28, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome

"Being realistic is the most commonly traveled path to mediocrity." - Will Smith

Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game, September 3rd, 2011 - Boise State vs Georgia

by LocalKineBronco13 on Apr 28, 2011 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Mr. Fiskers Should Become A Featured Columnist @ Bleacher Report

So he can do slide shows:

Ten Things Mr. Fiskers Can’t Digest.
Five Reason the Grimace has Man Boobs.
The Three Pro Sports Jobs That Deep South Carney Folks Can Aspire To.

I mean, I’m sure all those pictures TOOK a lot of work!

I'd rather be surfing.

by Pac 10 Alum on Apr 28, 2011 10:56 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Listen to this guy Kevan.....

The world needs to know how awsome/insightful Mr. Fiskers is.

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Apr 28, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kevan, the time has come.

OBNUG t-shirts w/ Mr. Fiskers. You will make a killing.

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Apr 28, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kevan, clearly yo are a superior writer which leas me to wonder why are you not writing for the statesmen!
Obviously you must have higher pay requirements then Murphy.
It’s a problem we see all across the country specially here with the freep.
Just check out the comments on this breaking story in Detroit.

http://www.freep.com/comments/article/20110428/NEWS05/110428017/Feds-nab-12-people-Metro-Airport-drug-smuggling-ring

Notice how the posters are trashing the writer on this front page story.

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Hahaha

This just in: Something happened involving people and things. More later.

it's not that you are stupid, it's just that you don't suspect!
Nothing is good nor bad until compared to something else.

by Darth Prophet on Apr 28, 2011 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Mr. Fiskers is tough

He treated Mr. Murphy, like he thought he was a local meatball.

by BT Blue on Apr 28, 2011 11:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Mr. F is an excellent judge of character

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Apr 28, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Mr. Fiskers

for explaining the incoherent. I’m so glad your back in full force.

by Denise F. on Apr 28, 2011 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

A pita justification for Mr. Murph.

I read Murphy’s writing and find myself nodding along, going ok…yeah…ok…hmmm. No epiphanies, but I’m not driven to evisceration by Fiskerclaws, either. I enjoy just about anyone’s articles about BSU football, Cam Newton’s integrity faceplant, Tressel’s vest unraveling, and dUI snarking. Hey, Kevan, could you have Mr. Fiskers take on the BCS Fiesta Bowl Investigative Committee?

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Apr 28, 2011 12:02 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Fun article

but god I hate cats. I hate cats so much I find myself hating people that own cats. But great article none the less!!

by boise on Apr 28, 2011 12:43 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Cat 1, Murphy 0

I have whistle pigs in my back 40 that could out think Murphy, but M vs Fiskers….well it just isn’t fair. Fiskers wants to eat a local meatball…and Murph outta be nervous. Seriously, that was a useless piece of newsprint…unless you own a bird. Well done Fiskers!!!!

Why does anyone hate cats?

by HSridge on Apr 28, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Just when I wanted to be a Murph Hata (that's the cool way to say hater)

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I mean the guys likes Mr. Fiskers, can you really hate? Well hate the game not the playa, hata.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Apr 28, 2011 2:59 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Murph may not provide credible news,

but at least he knows were to find it.

"Whatever happened to just winning games."

by Broncochick on Apr 28, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The guy can't be all that bad if he gives props to OBNUG

Mr Fiskers still did good job. It was a good read. Great points. BUT c’mon, give Murph a break. If you don’t like his writing for the content, at least like it for the fact that it gives us something to make fun of.

by TDown on Apr 28, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another solid reason

as why OBNUG should have a few BSU press passes. Gotta have one for Mr Fiskers.

by Bluesport on Apr 28, 2011 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

You go, Mr. Fiskers!!

Yet another hard-hitting expose by Mr. Fiskers, who happens to be the real reason behind OBNUG’s success! I would like to request that Mr. Fiskers be named the 4th chairman (or chaircat) of OBNUG, and his picture included with the other three esteemed chairmen!

by typhoonblue on Apr 28, 2011 3:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll bring it up at the next OBNUG Board Meeting

"I did not send you to go-kart camp." - Maury Garner

by Kevan Lee on Apr 29, 2011 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love a good rant.

Especially when its about how much Murphy sucks.

by Inkforareason on Apr 28, 2011 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Murphy gettin punked by a cat, PRICELESS.

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Apr 28, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Murphy doesn't deserve all this venom...

He’s trying to keep his job without insulting anyone who might be insulted, which is just about everyone. We can rant and snark here, because we are anonymous. Would anyone say to his face what they’ve said here? Not me. Maybe he is a meatball, a tard, he sucks, and can’t take down a cat…but it seems to me he earns a little respect just because he is willing to read obnug knowing he is toast on this board.
No, I’m not a Murph suckup. I just admire humans who write and put it out there for the whole world WITH their name attached.

Signed,
M. May (Man I hope Mr. Fiskers never howls at My door! that is one sharp mf cat.)

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Apr 28, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's all think for a moment on who is pulling the strings/encouraging BM.

  That would be Mike (I covered the dUI football team) Prater. Bet Mr. Fiskers can connect the dots. Just sayin.

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Apr 28, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll bet you're right.

I should have followed the money. That doesn’t make BM a pos, but it does make him an employee.

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Apr 28, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Murph does a decent job. The comments posted in the Statesman blogs are pure sewage. Murph works for Prater (feel free to hate Prater if you were around when Hilde played).

As a fanbase, we get pretty loud when someone has an opinion that we don’t like. I think Murph tries to remain objective, and he actually shines when you compare him to the national media guys. May, James, Cowheard…..

by ElPepeGrande on Apr 29, 2011 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I really don't mind Murph all that much

Prater on the other hand…

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Apr 29, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

We're not anonymous

Kevan, Drew and I all have our real names on this site.

Now saying that, this post was all in good fun and I’m sure Murph realized that by his response and would probably write the post differently if he had to do it over again.

by Nick Kroes on Apr 29, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Respect your opinion, totally disagree.

  Ol’ bm will be back to his snarky ways before long. Taking cheap shots at Boise State IS a big part of his track record. IMO none of us should give him a free pass, and that’s exactly what a few of the posts have done. Do you really think this guy is going to change? We can hope in one hand and (bw) in the other, and see which fills up first. Mr. Fiskers did a very good thing.

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Apr 29, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fiskers FTW

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Apr 28, 2011 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Gene Bleymaier started it.

It was a first: He brought in the blue field which brought us a lot of publicity, good or bad. Now it’s time to take the next step and give Mr. Fiskers a press pass. Come on! We could be first school to give a cat the press pass! Headline news Gene.

by bluebyeu on Apr 28, 2011 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Would anyone say to his face...

I would, boiseblues. One of the best things about him is his easy going, good natured sense of humor. He understands that the person that hung the “local meatball” label on him is the real joke. He’s rolling with it. For the record, I enjoy Murph.

by BT Blue on Apr 28, 2011 9:22 PM PDT reply actions  

rec'd

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Apr 28, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you ask nicely, maybe Mr. Fiskers will send him some well deserved almond Roca.

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Apr 29, 2011 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good players help teams win.

Making modern life a little worse one coverage opinion at a time.

by marktgarten on Apr 29, 2011 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Lookin' good, Joe. Lookin' gooood.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Apr 29, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, Okay. I'll Admit I Have Man Love For Joe Morgan

I think he’s a great broadcaster.
And he had an ‘AA’ base stealing grade in Strat-O-Matic.

Scoreboard:
Mr. Fiskers 1, Murph 0

And that's another Bronco... FIRST DOWN!!

by FirstDown on Apr 29, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd for strat-o-matic reference

Noel.Diggity.....NO DOUBT!
Bronco Nation...where the heavens and our hallowed ground are both BLUE!

by Noel.Diggity on May 9, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

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