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Boise State to the Big East: Good, bad, or indifferent?

Boise State president Bob Kustra was granted approval by the State Board of Education yesterday to accept Boise State football's invitation to the Big East, and if all the Internet is to be believed, Kustra will do just that. 

How does this make you feel?

Hop on the OBNUG psychologist couch and spill your thoughts. Are you in favor of the Broncos' move to the Big East? Are you vehemently opposed? Are you rather apathetic and just want to see this UNLV game? I explore each option after the jump and then open it up to you for your take.

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Boise State to the Big East is a good move. P.S. I have relatives in Storrs, Connecticut.

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With the college football landscape rapidly shifting, the Broncos have to do something. Staying in the Mountain West is not an option, unless BSU enjoys the idea of playing in Las Vegas and Poinsettia Bowls from here to eternity. The Big East brings notoriety, cachet, money, access, and so much more. In one of the Big Six conferences, Boise State would have a better chance to survive a superconference merger or a BCS rewrite or a Jim Delany power trip. Geography and convenience are simply collateral damage in Boise State's quest to get the respect and access it deserves. Moving to the Big East would be a step in the right direction.

Boise State to the Big East is a bad move. P.S. I am Craig Thompson.

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Apart from the obvious travel costs, geographical nonsense, forsaken tradition, basketball abandonment, recruiting challenges, and New Jersey smell, accepting a Big East invite is a bad move because there are so many unknowns. The conference may or may not be an AQ conference when Boise State enters in 2013, and isn't that the main reason for picking up and moving in the first place? If money was the motivation, shouldn't a TV contract be in place so you know how much money you're getting? While other conferences are moving on up by hoarding Top 25 programs, the Big East is scrambling to survive by collecting Conference USA teams and service academies. That is not a recipe for guaranteed AQ status. 

Boise State to the Big East? Oh, I thought that was a joke.

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Now help me find that CBS Sports Network station. 

Official OBNUG take

For all the world I hope that moving to the Big East gives Boise State the TV money and BCS access that it desires and deserves. However, that's no guarantee. At this point, Boise State joining the Big East is like buying a house without knowing if your new subdivision has sewer and water hookups or whether people will even be living in houses a year from now. 

So while I'm not hot on the idea of Boise State to the Big East, I'm more worked up that things even got to this point. Look at what the BCS has wrought. Teams are sacrificing everything to scramble for a seat at the table, and there never should have been a table in the first place. I'm not mad at college football, I'm disappointed. All of this could have been avoided.

For me personally, apathy is an easier road to take, but I'm afraid it runs right alongside the roads of over-reporting and Internet yelling and they are all about to merge. Whatever Boise State decides, I'll get on board with ... eventually. I love college football, but I don't have to like it right now.

Your turn

What are your feelings on a potential move to the Big East? Share your thoughts in the comments.

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What are your feelings on Boise State football's potential move to the Big East?
Good
955 votes
Bad
496 votes
Indifferent
169 votes
None of the above and something else entirely
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I voted good.

I’ve always wanted to live on the East Coast.

I'm the 12 th man its my job its my duty.

by Dothework on Nov 4, 2011 8:42 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I voted good

I’ve lived on the East Coast and want excuses to go back

by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm biased

Living in Nashville, I’m looking forward to away games in Louisville and Cincinnati

by Nick Kroes on Nov 4, 2011 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm biased

I live in Utah, so no regional bias here, but I am biased because I submit to the almighty dolla dolla bill y’all

by choeger on Nov 4, 2011 8:48 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Although I don't think it will stop the talk,

I do think it will burn like acid for James to witness this year in and year out. I also think it will diffuse a LOT of the talk.

Look, I know I break the rules when making analogies a lot but I just don’t see how the spirit behind a lot of people’s steadfast stance against BSU ISN’T the same or very very similar to the spirit standing behind people who were against desegregation for example. After a while you start to see that it’s not that these people really believe in what they say, it’s that they are simply dead set against us because they want to be.

A person like that cannot be argued against, they are always looking for the next shred of evidence to bring against you so they can keep things status quo. Joining the Big East is going to shock people in how much it raises our overall SoS, I guarantee it. I’ve run the numbers already and it’s shocking. We may not stop the hate, but we are going to break down a LOT of the arguments and excuses being used against us and an entire segment of naively misguided haters will be won over yet again as in years past.

BSU’s primary fight is one against ignorance. It is ignorance that has held us back and ignorance that holds us down.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Nov 4, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Opps

I mean SMU. I was having too much fun thinking about James head exploding. At last the rest of ESPN land will get see what a pea brain he really is.

by skipit on Nov 4, 2011 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

NO....don't do it so fast

I’d much rather see Boise State jump into the Big 12…work in that direction…

by dougcarterjr on Nov 4, 2011 8:56 AM PDT reply actions  

The Big 12 is not an option right now

By joining the Big East we are working in that direction in a sense. A successful BSU in the BE, especially if AQ status remains, makes us more attractive to the places we’d really like to be (Big 12 or Pac-whatever). Extra money will help the academic side of things as well, which the Pac-whatever values tremendously. Great news about the new doctoral program BTW.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

A couple good seasons in the BE distances us from the crappy SOS arguments we’re currently hammered with and makes us much more desirable.

Ultimately Pac16 is the goal and academically I think we’ll be ready in, dare I say, 5 years?… We’ve added two new doctoral programs this year alone and incoming freshmen GPA’s have hit their stride. Lets hope this provides a huge boost in graduation rate.

by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

Rec’d

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

God

This is so true….Sad really…but true

by USAFBronco on Nov 5, 2011 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

What Does "Work In That Direction" Entail?

Isn’t joining an AQ conference “working in that direction”?

by MooreWalksOnWater on Nov 4, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes.

"We gave up a couple of scores at the end of the first half and we don't like to let teams feel like they're really in it," - Tyler Shoemaker, on winning.

by Mikrino on Nov 4, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Remember...

The only prerequisite for joining a conference is desire. If we only wanted to join the BIG/PAC XII badly enough, it would simply happen. A magical invitation would scribe, and send itself in the mail and voila! We’re in that conference! So, by “work in that direction,” I think what he means is we need to want it more. Send out stronger positive vibes to the universe. Hey, it worked for this guy


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by Xavier Malawi on Nov 4, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

That movie always gave me the creeps!

Although the scene where Fred Savage, as the younger brother, rides around the block on his bigwheel is epic.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Give up the Big 12

Cause it’s not gonna happen. They don’t want us. Small stadium, tiny TV market, the furthest out of their footprint, and we’ll whoop them and take their money and recruits. The Big 12 has never been interested in us and I’d be surprised if they ever will be.

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by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 4, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Big East

Money to expand the stadium and east coast exposure to expand our fan base/TV market will help with that. Honestly I’d prefer the Pac12 over the Big12 as far as travel to games and rivalries go, but that’s just me. We need that money to expand our academics too and that’d he’ll get a Pac invite as well.

"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com

by Moto2.5 on Nov 4, 2011 11:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or have a worse TV market?

I didn’t know Morgantown was that big….

"All we can do is win the games on our schedule" - Coach Pete

by givemesomemoore on Nov 5, 2011 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

True reality

If the Big 12 or the Pac 12 was interested they would have already invited us.

by bcshtr on Nov 5, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is a no brainer.

I think the Mega-alliance between C-usa and MWC is a horrible idea that will be the laughed at for years to come, if it even happens. If Utah, BYU, and TCU would have stayed, or if even 2 of the 3 stayed it might be worth it, but now we need to look out for ourselves and no one will ever convince me that the MWC will be a more lucrative and viable option in the long run. I actually hope that Fresno, Nevada, and Hawaii bail on the MWC to stay in the Wac and then poach some of their schools, Craig T would love that!

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by Acash1983 on Nov 4, 2011 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

The mega merger deal sure reminds me a lot of the WAC

Before the Mtn West Split off… Become a HUGE conference to get some respect, and then take the best teams and start your own party…

by AdaminFL on Nov 4, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can see it now.

The WAC 3.0 Redoux

Idaho
Utah State
San Jose State
Hawaii
Fresno State
Nevada
New Mexico State
UNLV
Colorado State
Wyoming
San Diego State
New Mexico

CUSA takes Texas State, UTSA, and LaTech.

by gbioryl on Nov 4, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

Most important point, keeping Coach Pete. How long could we keep him without moving to an AQ confrence?

I'm the 12 th man its my job its my duty.

by Dothework on Nov 4, 2011 9:07 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

An especially cogent point:
If you’re not writing checks yourself to support Bronco Athletics, I think you can hardly blame them for taking a leap here.

Big checks, I might add. Really big.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Nov 4, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

THIS

I’ve stated a time or two, if I ever win the lotto, a nice chunk of that money would go to the stadium expansion and athletic department, as well as the school in general. They wouldn’t even have to name the stadium after me, just season tickets for good seats would be nice.

"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com

by Moto2.5 on Nov 4, 2011 11:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thought about this too. I don't want the stadium to be named 4EverbleedBlue either

so what I came up with is this, make them name it Chris Petersen stadium and then he’d really never leave us!

by 4EverBleedBlue on Nov 4, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd both!

Kellen Vision is the most ridiculously AWESOME idea ever! Haha!

by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd on the rec's ...

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by Lestermeister on Nov 4, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than "Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets Stadium" though

Which by the way would only apply to hermaphrodite pets, right? Think about it for a second… :)

by Adkoon on Nov 4, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would do the same thing. Except a condition of my donation would be that the school never sells the naming rights.

/still mad about the Pavillion.
//it will always be the Pavillion to me.

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by reflectivity on Nov 4, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just wrote something about that...

…I think I was talking about how Gonzaga used to play us before they got too cool for school. It will always be the Pavilion.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i saw that after posting this. lol.

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by reflectivity on Nov 4, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with Kevan/Official OBNUG take

I hate the fact that it has come to this… but we dont really have a choice. The MWC is now a turd and if the other teams that are being invited leave and that whole C-USA MWC merger takes affect, there will be NO ONE left. So our choice is to stay and fall off the face of the earth or go and keep our fingers crossed. The situation is a crapshoot.

by lifelongbronco on Nov 4, 2011 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Correction: The MWC [has always been] a turd

Everything that’s gone down in the MWC has proven that Craig Thompson is a terrible AD. First bad choice, adding TCU over BSU. It’s gone all downhill from there.

by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Had to go with good.

Maybe this isn’t ideal, but the MWC ignored us until it needed us, chased off the teams we came to play, banned our blue, and has a terrible tv deal. So yeah, not “best,” but “good.”

by Cougarflounder on Nov 4, 2011 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Well said. So we trash them for two years as payback...

bag a couple more conference trophies and a bowl games then ride off into the sunset…er…sunrise.

I would be even more happy if we get out of the MWC in only one year. Maybe the BE is anxious enough to pony up the exit fee :)

Bring Tulsa and/or Southern Mississippi.

’sides, Coach Pete says go.

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.

I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies

by HSridge on Nov 4, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would be ironically funny if

Big East won their counter lawsuit against WVU, got paid big in the Unspecified Damages category, and used that to cut a deal for 14M cash right now to buy BSU out early from the MWC.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Nov 4, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

You raise valid points, Kevan

for letting this bus pass us by. I think we’re all a little nervous about the unknowns, the “fear factor.” But you also make an astute observation:

the Broncos have to do something

Decisions in life are rarely clear-cut. Most of life is an uncertain gamble, and that’s why insurance companies are so wealthy. But President Kustra and his team of advisors, especially Coach Pete, has to act with the best possible information at hand at a specific time. It’s the headache that all commanders face (and it’s lonely at the top), but, when it’s obvious that inaction will do harm, one has to move with the plan that shows the most promise at that time.

For BSU football, the WAC is not an option. The MWC is already withering. The Big East may do so, too, but it seems to hold the seeds of a future for the Broncos. It may be a bad decision, but we won’t know that for a few years. By that time, the landscape will again have changed (that’s a guarantee!), and whomever our commander is will again make the best decision with the available intelligence at the time.

Regardless of whatever outcome, the sun will continue to rise over Tablerock.

by SeniorChief on Nov 4, 2011 9:03 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This is so what I have been thinking but lacked the context to frame and voice my thoughts

Thanks Chief.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Nov 4, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I remember 6th grade geography correctly,

Isn’t Colorado, Arizona and Utah all part of the West coast? Just curious.

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by forseyfan36 on Nov 4, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always thought Idaho was in the Midwest?

You know, between Iowa and Ohio.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

So true...i hear that all the time.

That and, “I-dah-ho?…..you-dah-ho!”

by Adkoon on Nov 4, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Adkoon...YOU-dah-ho!

Snap!

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Air travel and the internet...

it ain’t our grandaddy’s geography.

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.

I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies

by HSridge on Nov 4, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of us staying outside of AQ conferences.

Let our merits outside of the elitist club continue to upset the status quo. They can keep belittling us for being in a weak conference, and we’ll keep beating AQ teams brave enough to play us. I would rather stand as a symbol against not including deserving teams simply because of which conference we play in.

That’s just me, though.

by freshbreff on Nov 4, 2011 9:20 AM PDT reply actions  

I appreciate the point

To this end, I would say we should never forget where we came from. (I came from Boise!)

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Me too!

"We gave up a couple of scores at the end of the first half and we don't like to let teams feel like they're really in it," - Tyler Shoemaker, on winning.

by Mikrino on Nov 4, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Um, well actually I was born in Florida...

…but my family moved to Boise when I was 2 months old, so I think that’s good enough.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, you're one of those...

I kid, I kid.

Boise, Idaho born and raised right here! St Luke’s hospital baby!

"We gave up a couple of scores at the end of the first half and we don't like to let teams feel like they're really in it," - Tyler Shoemaker, on winning.

by Mikrino on Nov 4, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

We used to go on field trips to St. Luke's...

…as an adult it seems that going to a hospital for a field trip is kind of weird though.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

An understandable stance

Noble, even. Nobility doesn’t pay the bills, though. And the bill for exposure and competition is and will continue to get larger.

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Nov 4, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

If only we had Nike...

I guess in that case we would have never been on the outside looking in… I like that, as we enter the AQ world we should never forget where we came from.

by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think there is a Coach Pete/Phil Knight connection though, if I'm not mistaken...

Anyone on this? I remember this being part of the reason for fearing Coach Pete taking the Oregon job someday.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, he was the QB coach at Oregon under Belloti.

He and Phil Knight are friendly.

"We gave up a couple of scores at the end of the first half and we don't like to let teams feel like they're really in it," - Tyler Shoemaker, on winning.

by Mikrino on Nov 4, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shush yo mouf!

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Nov 4, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

But he's talkin' about Pete!

So we can dig it.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That is a very noble idea.

But so is jumping on a grenade to save the life of a complete stranger, when it is all said and done you won’t be able to survive.

"The only things certain in life are death, taxes and Boise State winning at least 10 games."
Mike Lopresti-USA Today

by Acash1983 on Nov 4, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Money, Money, Money

I think we all have that same sentiment and in a beautiful perfect world that would be great, but unfortunately “symbols” don’t make money. BSU needs money to grow its institution and it will not happen in the Mountain West. Even if Big East looses their AQ, the new TV deal they are negotiating will make the change well worth it.

by nicmo on Nov 4, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never thought of it this way before...
BSU enjoys the idea of playing in Las Vegas and Poinsettia Bowls from here to eternity.

Not only does our chances of playing in a BCS NC game and a BCS Bowl game change, but here is what BSU’s other Bowls will look like depending on how high we finish in the Big E.

#1….. Random BCS Game….. $18,000,000.
#2….. Champs Sports….. $2,325,000… ACC#3
#3….. Belk….. $1,700,000… ACC#5
#4….. Pinstripe….. $1,800,000… Big12#7
#5….. BBVA Compass….. $600,000… SEC#8
#6….. Beef ‘O’ Brady’s….. $500,000 CUSA#4

Right now the MWC has two bowls that pay $1.1M two that pay about $700,000 and the others pay $500,000.

by Jay Weston on Nov 4, 2011 9:25 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Even though it would mean no BCS game in a given year...

…it would be awesome to see the Broncos play in Yankee Stadium (I have a 12 game plan for the Yanks, would love to have an excuse to go there for football).

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

P.S. My vote was for none of the above.

I think the jury is still out. How it looks right now the BigE is going to be a nice stepping stone for the BCS. The BigE has most of the benefits of a BCS conference, but it is weak enough that we could come in and contend in the conference every year.

The BigE is guaranteed a BCS spot until 2016 and it is not out of the realm of possibilities that BSU could be in the BigE championship game the four years between 2013-2016. That is four years of going great, building our stadium and biulding “depth” for a Big12/Pac16 invite.

by Jay Weston on Nov 4, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice Stepping Stone...

If you said this is a nice stepping stone to getting BSU to where it needs to be, then you should have voted good because that means this is a good move. The only reason Kustra likes the move is because he thinks it gets BSU closer to the PAC-12. All moves that get you closer to a accomplishing a goal are good moves.

by nicmo on Nov 4, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I should have voted good, because as I see it now it is a good deal for us.

But I didn’t want to get burned again.

When we joined the MWC I thought it was a great move. One that was going to bring in a new era for BSU. Then Utah left… It hurt, but I still loved the conference. Then, BYU left and it started looking gloom. Then TCU left and the moved seemed pointless. Then we were informed the MWC would not let us wear blue jerseys at home and I just left like I was kicked while I was on the ground.

Right now if things play out like what is being reporting then, yes I say this is a good move. But before I declare that, I want to know about the new ESPN Deal, who is staying in the conference, who is coming into the conference, how the divisions will be setup, will we keep the bowl tie-ins and how long will we have a BCS bid. But until some of those questions are answered I voted for none of the above.

by Jay Weston on Nov 4, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd!

…forgot all about going 11-1 (or 11.95-.05) and having no other bowl options than the Sam Boyd Sin City vs Pac 12 Dregs Bowl or the Kraft Haigh Ashbury Soup Kitchen Last Chance Bowl. Sheesh. Yours is a great post!

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.

I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies

by HSridge on Nov 4, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

NYBroncosFan is finally gonna get his!

Much like Nick, I am very stoked at the idea of actually getting to some live games now (last time I was at an actual BSU game was the 1990s). Note my signature.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 9:29 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, here I just moved from Kentucky back out west.

And they’ll be playing conference games just two hours from where I lived in a couple years.

"We gave up a couple of scores at the end of the first half and we don't like to let teams feel like they're really in it," - Tyler Shoemaker, on winning.

by Mikrino on Nov 4, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm happy for me too!

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since the distances from Boise

are going to be greater, and therefore not as economical for airfare, we’re going to have to rely on you more easterly members of Bronco Nation to represent us by traveling to the games in your neck of the woods (read: east of the Mississippi).

It is my sincere hope, NYBroncos, that you can convince The New Yorker magazine to update their famous map and include the Blue Turf somewhere out there on the other side of the Hudson.

by SeniorChief on Nov 4, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not the distance that creates more expensive air travel...

It’s the availablility of large airports near your destination. It’s general cheaper to fly from LA to NY than it is to fly from LA to say Omaha, Nebraska. More passengers, more flights=cheaper airfare. And there are plenty of very large airports on the East coast. It’s not as expensive as you think, speaking from experience.

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by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 4, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tres cool!

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Nov 4, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yay!

You DO have friends in high places, don’t you? That was quick. Now, your task is to distribute this map to everyone on the east coast so they will know where to come see the games. We don’t want them stopping off in Iowa.

But I wonder why Utah is so far to the south of the Blue? Maybe the earthquake or something. Other than that, it looks pretty accurate.

by SeniorChief on Nov 4, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Utah is also south of Las Vegas...

New Yorkers aren’t much for geography. As for your other point:

Now, your task is to distribute this map to everyone on the east coast so they will know where to come see the games. We don’t want them stopping off in Iowa.

I might need a week or two on that one.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, from what I hear,

you probably have until 2013. But you can skip Georgia. I think they’re aware of where we are.

by SeniorChief on Nov 4, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same thing in Virginia.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget...

Syracuse is still in the league for the next two years, too. Yet another game close enough to travel to for you…

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude

"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen

by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 4, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point!

I know a lot of Syracuse fans (of course they pretend the football team doesn’t exist).

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just be sure to wear Blue instead of orange, lol

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude

"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen

by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 4, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with you!

I’ve got teh two florida schools about 35 mintues from my house! My three daughters are very excited about the opportunity to go to a bronco game, and to actually be able to drive there.

by AdaminFL on Nov 4, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Party at YOUR house...

how cool would that be. Well played NY!

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.

I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies

by HSridge on Nov 4, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

We can always pull a "TCU" if things don't look so good prior to 2013.

Hell, we’ll just take a better offer (ala TCU) if it comes along between now and 2013. Hate to sound so jaded, but this type of outlook is a necessity, based on how conference-switching is playing out.

by typhoonblue on Nov 4, 2011 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Remember, it will cost 10 mil to leave

BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.

by Belexes on Nov 4, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a yes and no. Yes I voted twice!

Yes because of the same old arguments which is exposure and money money money. But a No because of how basketball gets the short stick. Basketball is on their way up with Leon Rice (we went to WAC championship last year) The reported conferences would be big west ( 80% California schools) the WAC or the west coastal coference ( because of religious ties they already mentioned they are not interested) so our real options are a dwindling WAC or the big west who mentioned not wanting the travel to Boise Idaho. ……really going back to the WAC I hate to see Leon rice’s expression after hearing that….I feel bad for them.

"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- WG#99

by BustersBroncosBustsBCS on Nov 4, 2011 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

I am worried about basketball and the other olympic sports too...

..but I think something will work out. I would love to see the WCC send an invite but it doesn’t look likely.

I don’t understand why the Big Sky hasn’t been mentioned as a landing spot for BSU’s other sports. I would much rather see Montana, Weber, Portland State than the schools of the Big West.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Nov 4, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's been mentioned a few times

If you look at basketball conference rankings though, the Big Sky is pretty low…definitely a downgrade.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any of the aformentioned conferences...

Would be a step down for basketball, the MWC is a pretty good basketball conference, in the top ten conferences if I remember right.

"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com

by Moto2.5 on Nov 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

being there

is half the battle… I am sure that BSU will get better opportunities to schedule Non-Conference basketball games with our new football rivals, and if we can actually get to the big dance again, be one of the 64 best teams in the country, then maybe we will have to opportunity to go to all sports in the Big East. Coach Rice has to like the idea of getting a better chance to play the Big East Basketball Schools based on the football relationship… Seriously they are going to have to schedule us just to save face… We kill them on the Blue, they return the favor on the court mentality…

by AdaminFL on Nov 4, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Big West is PERFECT for Coach Rice and Team

Think about it. Coach Rice just came from the WCC. He coached (assistant all be it) one of the top teams in that league. For those unaware, that league is small and only has a couple good schools: Gonzaga and St. Maries. Sure Loyola Marymount does well every now and then but the rest of the league stinks. I think the Big West could be a great incubator for Coach Rice to get this program going and in a few years maybe we see ourselves stiff arming the BE into letting our BBall team in… Big West has some ok bball schools… Their conf champ beat us last year (Long Beach State). Long Beach State reached the NIT last season after losing to UCSB in the Big West final for the NCAA tournament berth. We could instantly contend for Big West Championships and NCAA or NIT Tourney berths.

by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Big West is perfect

except they already came out and said they are not interested in a public school with no religious ties. bummer

"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- WG#99

by BustersBroncosBustsBCS on Nov 4, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that was the West Coast Conference, not the Big West

We used to be in the Big West before they dissolved as a football conference.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I voted good because its the best option available to us

More money, more recruiting options, and hopefully will be a springboard to a future PAC 16

Oh, and because the MWC blows

by BKZ on Nov 4, 2011 9:52 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Have to make this move.

The money and the level of competion is much better than what a TCU less MWC can simply offer us. If that mythical Big 12 invite comes to us, we can do what TCU did (chip off the Big East 5$ million and say ‘thx but no thx’) and jump there. We have to be short sighted and try to get the most money and best opportunitites we can get at the moment and hope that something better opens up.

East
Rutgers
UConn
South Florida
Central Florida
Navy
Temple/Villinova

West
Cinncinati
Houston
SMU
Air Force
Loisville
Boise State

I can get into a conference like that.

Chris Petersen is in the dictionary next to the word AWESOME.

by warriorsscore110 on Nov 4, 2011 10:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Don't forget WVU, Pitt and Syracuse...

For the next 2 years at least.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude

"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen

by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 4, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

For all the posturing by the Big East offices (and by WVU and the Big 12)

I’d bet a lot on WVU to the Big 12, Mizzou to the SEC, Pitt and SU to the ACC, and a ton of newcomers to the Big East all happening for the 2013 season.

by drothgery on Nov 4, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The reason the Big East is holding them...

Is because if they were to leave, the Big East would only have five teams next season, which isn’t enough to field a conference. Once all the new teams enter in 2013, I think the Big East will let them go.

I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.

by BSU Guru on Nov 4, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they'll try to hold them regardless

WVU helps bolster their BCS credentials and so does Pitt, who was pretty good a couple of years ago. Syracuse is another story (although they’ve improved the last two seasons), but you can’t let one go and keep the others. Plus Syracuse’s basketball program means money for the Big East as well.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

While

It’s definitely a no-brainer to get in to a big 6 conference now while you can.

I don’t follow BSU football really so I don’t know who you guys have lined up next for QB, but I can easily see you guys running the table in the Big East for the foreseeable future.

Each year you’ll probably get at most 2 road games that you might be a little worried about. The other half of the road games you guys will be easily favored. Any games played at Boise I don’t see you guys ever being less than a 2-score favorite.

by VT1996 on Nov 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Appreciate the respect and kind words...

We’ve got a stable of QBs lined up for next year. Everyone familiar with the team and our recruits is figuring it’ll be a 3 or 4 way battle for starter, which I can live with as long as the right guy comes out on top, regardless of who it is.

"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com

by Moto2.5 on Nov 4, 2011 11:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The big difference is that

1 loss in the MWC and WAC means obscurity and failure. In the Big East we can still probably get to a BCS game with 1 loss and even with 3 losses (god forbid) we still get BCS money and a decent bowl game.

Chris Petersen is in the dictionary next to the word AWESOME.

by warriorsscore110 on Nov 4, 2011 2:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I like it for you guys

Obviously not the best-case scenario but it is definitely an improvement over MWC:

-Better TV $$$
-Better competition
-East coast exposure
-Better Bowls
-AQ bid (most likely)
-I also really think it will be good for your recruiting in Texas and Florida playing SMU, Houston, UCF, & USF.

Keep winning games, make improvements to your facilities and academics and BSU should continue to climb the ladder and look more desirable come the next wave of expansion.

"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator

by Ben Findley on Nov 4, 2011 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Probably most of this list worked for TCU as well when you guys were planning to go to the BE

So I’m sure it’s not tough to relate. Of course, if we got a Big 12 invite, we’d probably do the same as you did too.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you're right

Here’s what I wrote when TCU accepted the bid to the BE- http://www.mwcconnection.com/2010/11/29/1843502/wagons-east-my-thoughts-on-tcus-impending-move-to-the-big-east Strangely similar to the BSU invite

The Pro’s were mostly what I listed above with the cons being travel and conference instability, boy what an understatement that was.

"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator

by Ben Findley on Nov 4, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big 12,

looks stable(relative to what they were looking like a month ago) at the moment. Hopefully TCU can find some success there for your sake and will not act like snobby doucebags like Utah and schedule a home and home with Boise State in the future for our sakes.

Chris Petersen is in the dictionary next to the word AWESOME.

by warriorsscore110 on Nov 4, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to see BSU basketball land in the WCC

Just the thought of Gonzaga rolling into Taco Bell Arena gets me pumped.

by BT Blue on Nov 4, 2011 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Leon Rice doesn't share your "pumped"

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Nov 4, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Leon himself

j/k. I was listening to Dumb and Dumber on the radio yesterday (now in FM!), and they seemed to think Rice didn’t want to do it. Now, can you quit making me embarrass myself any more?

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Nov 4, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny thing about Gonzaga...

I remember seeing them play in that place you call “Taco Bell Arena”, which I will refer to as the “BSU Pavilion.” We used to schedule them as a non-conference opponent back before they suddenly became the “next big thing” in college basketball.

This was during the Bobby Dye era, which I remember looking through rose-colored goggles (goggles in honor of Tanoka Beard, who wore them his freshman year).

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't really embarrassed

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Nov 4, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't happen anyways

WCC is all private schools, why would they go through the administrative hassle of working with a public school for Boise State? They’re all religious school as well. It isn’t going to happen. Big West is just as good.

by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's really no other option.

Boise can’t leave that kind of money on the table end of story.

However, I don’t think Boise was ever in a situation that felt so temporary going into it.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Nov 4, 2011 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Not even going into the MWC?

You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.

by kcam on Nov 4, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

When we first entered the MWC...

It felt like a conference that we were going to be in for awhile. The Big East seriously just feels like a marriage of convenience that we will bail on the second we get a better offer. I seriously cannot see us in the Big East for the long term.

I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.

by BSU Guru on Nov 4, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

MWC felt permanent for about a week

Or however long it was before Utah bailed.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

It felt permanent until Utah bailed and BYU fled for independence. I think we all knew it was a matter of time at that point because things were so unstable.

by choeger on Nov 4, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone notice

that in the first picture the person just above the G has their face “censored” out by a snowflake?

Too bad he didn’t get his moment of fame =/ It’s like Mike Wazowski from Monsters Inc.

by Bdiddy11 on Nov 4, 2011 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

2013 season?

Boise would be added for the 2013 season? As much as I think they’ll go undefeated in the Big East, I’m definitely anxious to see how it pans out. Maybe I’m too used to seeing them pound their conference opponents the past 6 or 7 years that I assume it’ll continue.

L’ville, UCONN, Rutgers, South Florida are very average football teams. Still, facing those teams 4 or 5 weekends in a row should be interesting.

by VT1996 on Nov 4, 2011 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

All depends on the QB situation

I feel confident with our depth at every other position, but whoever wins the Hedrick/Southwick/Laughrea/Patti battle needs to impress next year if we want to be favored to win in 2013

by choeger on Nov 4, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW, that will be a GREAT battle

Not that it makes up for a post-Kellen world…

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

For what its worth

My money is on Hedrick, he just seems like he has the most intangibles, but I haven’t seen Patti or Laughrea play at all, so take my opinion for the nothing its worth ;). I just think he is better the Southwick and that the year in a backup role will give him a leg up on Laughrea and Patti

by choeger on Nov 4, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOUD NOISES!

I always go full retard
ಠ_ಠ

by sczmbz on Nov 4, 2011 1:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

Good move IF...

1] TV money pays for the stadium expansion and my BAA & season ticket costs don’t have to go up any more.
2] The new alliance of teams in the Big East stay together for a while… so that Fresno, New Mexico, and San Jose State aren’t invited to join next year.

by adopted bronco on Nov 4, 2011 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Not going to happen

They’d add Temple and Villanova first. No way the Big East would expand to Cali like that. The only reason they came as far west as us is because they needed the credibility that BSU gives the conference. SJSU and Fresno don’t add that credibility.

by choeger on Nov 4, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is only one California team I wouldn't mind

Other than Nevada or SDSU I wouldn’t want any of the others in the Big East unless they make a massive turn around in their on field performance and they do it consistently.

by Jesterrace on Nov 4, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: While I respect the views of those who want to continue on in the MWC

As cool as it would be to continue to be the perennial BCS Buster, that boat can only sail for so long before people get tired of it. We have to think about growth potential and need to use the media and rankings to our advantage and strike while the iron is hot. The University needs money and the ability to grow and develop as a program. Staying in the MWC offers little to no growth potential for Boise. Even though it’s risky and not ideal the Big East gives us an opportunity at least.

by Jesterrace on Nov 4, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

I couldn’t have said it better myself

by choeger on Nov 4, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Big East is a good stepping stone, but ...

… I’m hoping (if it actually happens), that they will be able to pull a TCU and accept an invite from the Big 12, as they attempt to get back to 12 teams … I am still hoping for a road trip every other year to watch the Broncos destroy Iowa State (and get me an excuse to get back to visit my folks, who live 30 miles away from Ames) …

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by Lestermeister on Nov 4, 2011 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Greed.

This feels like greed to me. We’ve been successful with what we’ve been doing, so let’s keep at it. I don’t want Boise football to become manipulated by money and turn into some commercialized product. Boise football is about the underdog rattling the cage, representing the little guy, not about becoming part of the establishment. Blegh to everything about this.

by kbyes on Nov 4, 2011 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

In a perfect world

I would agree with you, but Boise State cannot continue to grow and develop as a program or as a school and play at the highest level without funding. We can either stay where we are and for a time continue as a little guy sticking it to the Big Boys but as soon as the media novelty wears off, we fade into obscurity (We have already seen Boise State hurt by the MWC’s media deal as they get less national coverage). So do we make like the U of I and regress as a football program or do we want to see them continue to work their way up and play more and more Big name teams, that is only going to happen with increased funding, expanded stadium, etc.

by Jesterrace on Nov 4, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but don't forget what the football money brings to the school and community

It’s real easy to think only about football here but that money pays for things well beyond football. If you want BSU academics to continue to get better, that money can help tremendously.

by Adkoon on Nov 4, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are all learning to embrace the greed...

…as dirty as that feels. Mo money for lockers,seats, recruiting, etc., and blue and orange signs across the good ole’ USA.

And the great bottom line – mo money for BSU beyond the blue.

I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.

I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies

by HSridge on Nov 4, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's a good thing

It is more frustrating to win most of your games and still not make it to a decent bowl vs losing your games and not making it. This move will definetly give bsu more opportunities and lastly I live on the east coast so will get to see them live more.

by sidfromsbnation on Nov 4, 2011 3:29 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Good Point

I’ll bet you guys get tons of BSU games on the Mountain Network over there.

by Jesterrace on Nov 4, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.

by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

THink of the children!

"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- WG#99

by BustersBroncosBustsBCS on Nov 4, 2011 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Amen

because it can’t be all about……………………..

by papaspud on Nov 4, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are correct

It’s about building a quality university, better facilities, stadium, etc. That would take about 30 years in the MWC or the MWC/C-USA merger.

by Jesterrace on Nov 4, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

My biggest concern and the biggest concern of all of Bronco Nation is...

If BSU goes to the Big East: does this mean that Fresneck will never win the Milk Can? It would be sad to end the “rivalry” with Fresneck never actually winning this piece of crap that we’ve been lugging around for years. If we don’t plan to play them again, we should get 1/2 of the shipping costs back.

by 43-42_Stop_Crying on Nov 5, 2011 5:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Voted BAD (but I am an Oregon fan, so my opinion ain't worth s^^^)

Still,

it is silly to have a team from the NW playing in the ‘Big East’ conference.

Not that Boise State is silly. Far from it. Rather, the NCAA and the pig Presidents of the member universities who clearly get payoffs in order to keep this insane ‘Bowl Championship Series’ albatross alive, have created the necessity of a team from the NW playing in a conference like the Big East (the Beast!) in order to hopefully, someday, having a shot at playing in the so-called ‘National Championship’ game (when this year really, truly, should be Boise’s year to do so if the deal wasn’t rigged from the start).

The System is due to implode soon.

When it does, Boise State can give the middle finger to the Big East and return to playing teams from the Pacific and Mountain time zones.

But until that day comes, the only logical choice for y’all is to hold your noses and join that Atlantic Coast conference of basketball and (a few) football teams.

by ConfofChamps on Nov 5, 2011 10:51 PM PDT reply actions  

why

why would boise st. want to part of the big east . i see it as a lateral move . is there really any more credability in the big east than the mountain west. a move to the pac 12 (if there is room) would be great creating regional rivalry and travel in their own time zone.

by mrwhite1 on Nov 6, 2011 10:07 AM PST reply actions  

How is this a good move?

Sorry, folks, but let’s speak heresy here for a moment or two. According to Sagarin, the Big Least is one of the worst of the six AQ conferences. Over the next couple of years, their “best” teams are all bailing for much better AQ conferences. My opinion—ESPN and Fox will very likely NOT negotiate any kind of decent TV contract with the new "conference", the Big East is going to lose its AQ status by 2015, the other AQ conferences will NOT, in fact, extend an invitation to the Broncos, and we’ll still be seen as a pack of peasants who only play cupcake teams.

Hope I’m wrong, but I’m not as sanguine about this move as everyone else.

by akviste2005 on Nov 6, 2011 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

It's a matter of options

Honestly I’m sorry but the people who are voting no, don’t understand the politics of FBS football or the way the BCS works. There are tons of “What ifs” in either scenario. We can sit here and argue back on speculation. Here are the tangible facts:

1) The Big East has a BCS Bid until the 2014 BCS bowl season.
2) The BCS has stated that there is no guarantee that the MWC/C-USA merger will ever get a bid.
3) The media payout alone in the Big East is almost double what the MWC is (at least under current arrangements)
4) Under the MWC there are 4 teams that have overall losing records in their entire history. Under the MWC/C-USA alliance there are 10.
5) In the proposed big east of the 12 teams only 2 (maybe 3 with the 12th) have overall losing records in their history and those 2 are just barely missing the mark and are on the upswing. 1 team is sitting right about dead even and the rest all post well over .500 overall winning records. The bottom line is that although we can’t count on a bunch of ranked opponents as additions we also wouldn’t have opponents that regularly end up on the who is who list of the worst of college football teams. Very frustrating to beat an opponent by 50 only to be jumped by a BCS opponent that barely squeaks by in one of their games with a win over a “so-so” team.
6) NO OTHER BCS CONFERENCE WILL PICK UP BOISE STATE FOR THEIR MONEY/MEDIA MARKET OR OVERALL ACADEMIC RECORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Although that could change in the future we are still probably talking another 20 years down the road before that could start becoming a reality.
7) Houston and UCF have already been given approval to explore other options, which is generally the first step taken when leaving a conference. Yeah, not guaranteed that they leave but they have taken that first step. Losing 2 teams with good overall records IS NOT something the MWC/C-USA can afford as they need all of the teams with winning records that they can get.
8) Even with a bid in the MWC/C-USA merger they would have to share the proceeds between 2 conferences and 21 mouths versus one conference and 11 mouths. So they would need to be getting significantly more than the Big East currently has in order to offset the additional payouts.
9) The Big East and the Mountain West are the ONLY viable options for Boise State for now and the not too distant future. The Big 12 is staying put at 10 for the next season at least, the ACC content with 14 and SEC with 14 and the Big 10 with 12 and the PAC12 WILL NOT go beyond 12 (neither will the Big 10) unless they get a really big name school with a large media market and academics (ie Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma, etc.)
10) The MWC has a super crappy media deal that although on paper looks good with extra revenue for the schools, ultimately kills the teams’ media exposure by putting half their games on versus and the mtn. The Mountain Network in particular is a killer since out of the mountain region the only way to get it is for someone to pay for a premium package with direct tv. Good luck getting it for the folks who have dish network or one of the local cable systems. They actually had better media coverage with the WAC with 7 of their games last season on ESPN. Anyone in the country with a basic cable or sat package could see them (or those with access to Watch ESPN streaming online).
11) Even if the Big 12 does expand again next season there are 2-3 other schools would would have to turn down offers (highly unlikely) before Boise State would be given an invitation (ie Louisville and Tulane).
12) This gives Boise more shot at exposure at the coveted Texas and Florida markets
13) If the Big East did lose AQ status how hard do you think it would be for Boise to find another non-AQ conference? I promise you it would not be difficult as long as they can keep on doing what they have done.
14) Air Force has also been mentioned as a target and with Nevada, Fresno State and Hawaii coming on board, the only thing Boise State has gained over the WAC is a slightly higher paycheck and Air Force and maybe SDSU, with Air Force gone that would essentially leave them right back to square one with a schedule that is virtually indistinguishable from what they had in the WAC.

The bottom line is that there are a whole bunch of what ifs in either scenario but ultimately the advantages and risks are greater with the Big East than their current deal and there are no realistic options elsewhere for the next several years.

by Jesterrace on Nov 6, 2011 8:56 PM PST reply actions  

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