Boise State to the Big East: Good, bad, or indifferent?
Boise State president Bob Kustra was granted approval by the State Board of Education yesterday to accept Boise State football's invitation to the Big East, and if all the Internet is to be believed, Kustra will do just that.
How does this make you feel?
Hop on the OBNUG psychologist couch and spill your thoughts. Are you in favor of the Broncos' move to the Big East? Are you vehemently opposed? Are you rather apathetic and just want to see this UNLV game? I explore each option after the jump and then open it up to you for your take.
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Boise State to the Big East is a good move. P.S. I have relatives in Storrs, Connecticut.
With the college football landscape rapidly shifting, the Broncos have to do something. Staying in the Mountain West is not an option, unless BSU enjoys the idea of playing in Las Vegas and Poinsettia Bowls from here to eternity. The Big East brings notoriety, cachet, money, access, and so much more. In one of the Big Six conferences, Boise State would have a better chance to survive a superconference merger or a BCS rewrite or a Jim Delany power trip. Geography and convenience are simply collateral damage in Boise State's quest to get the respect and access it deserves. Moving to the Big East would be a step in the right direction.
Boise State to the Big East is a bad move. P.S. I am Craig Thompson.
Apart from the obvious travel costs, geographical nonsense, forsaken tradition, basketball abandonment, recruiting challenges, and New Jersey smell, accepting a Big East invite is a bad move because there are so many unknowns. The conference may or may not be an AQ conference when Boise State enters in 2013, and isn't that the main reason for picking up and moving in the first place? If money was the motivation, shouldn't a TV contract be in place so you know how much money you're getting? While other conferences are moving on up by hoarding Top 25 programs, the Big East is scrambling to survive by collecting Conference USA teams and service academies. That is not a recipe for guaranteed AQ status.
Boise State to the Big East? Oh, I thought that was a joke.
Now help me find that CBS Sports Network station.
Official OBNUG take
For all the world I hope that moving to the Big East gives Boise State the TV money and BCS access that it desires and deserves. However, that's no guarantee. At this point, Boise State joining the Big East is like buying a house without knowing if your new subdivision has sewer and water hookups or whether people will even be living in houses a year from now.
So while I'm not hot on the idea of Boise State to the Big East, I'm more worked up that things even got to this point. Look at what the BCS has wrought. Teams are sacrificing everything to scramble for a seat at the table, and there never should have been a table in the first place. I'm not mad at college football, I'm disappointed. All of this could have been avoided.
For me personally, apathy is an easier road to take, but I'm afraid it runs right alongside the roads of over-reporting and Internet yelling and they are all about to merge. Whatever Boise State decides, I'll get on board with ... eventually. I love college football, but I don't have to like it right now.
Your turn
What are your feelings on a potential move to the Big East? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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I voted good.
I’ve always wanted to live on the East Coast.
I'm the 12 th man its my job its my duty.
by Dothework on Nov 4, 2011 8:42 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I voted good
I’ve lived on the East Coast and want excuses to go back
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Conference Championship in New York?
Now when is the next Delta Airlines sale? Might as well buy my tickets in advance.
by Bring the HAMMER! on Nov 4, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
If that's how it happens, I'm there
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm biased
I live in Utah, so no regional bias here, but I am biased because I submit to the almighty dolla dolla bill y’all
by choeger on Nov 4, 2011 8:48 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
It's good
It’s good just to shut up Mark May and Craig James. I can’t wait to see James’s head explode on ESPN when S U M gets whooped by BSU. Hows that “Body Of Work” work for you now James?
by skipit on Nov 4, 2011 8:49 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Although I don't think it will stop the talk,
I do think it will burn like acid for James to witness this year in and year out. I also think it will diffuse a LOT of the talk.
Look, I know I break the rules when making analogies a lot but I just don’t see how the spirit behind a lot of people’s steadfast stance against BSU ISN’T the same or very very similar to the spirit standing behind people who were against desegregation for example. After a while you start to see that it’s not that these people really believe in what they say, it’s that they are simply dead set against us because they want to be.
A person like that cannot be argued against, they are always looking for the next shred of evidence to bring against you so they can keep things status quo. Joining the Big East is going to shock people in how much it raises our overall SoS, I guarantee it. I’ve run the numbers already and it’s shocking. We may not stop the hate, but we are going to break down a LOT of the arguments and excuses being used against us and an entire segment of naively misguided haters will be won over yet again as in years past.
BSU’s primary fight is one against ignorance. It is ignorance that has held us back and ignorance that holds us down.
I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010
by pjohn56 on Nov 4, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Opps
I mean SMU. I was having too much fun thinking about James head exploding. At last the rest of ESPN land will get see what a pea brain he really is.
NO....don't do it so fast
I’d much rather see Boise State jump into the Big 12…work in that direction…
The Big 12 is not an option right now
By joining the Big East we are working in that direction in a sense. A successful BSU in the BE, especially if AQ status remains, makes us more attractive to the places we’d really like to be (Big 12 or Pac-whatever). Extra money will help the academic side of things as well, which the Pac-whatever values tremendously. Great news about the new doctoral program BTW.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
Agree
A couple good seasons in the BE distances us from the crappy SOS arguments we’re currently hammered with and makes us much more desirable.
Ultimately Pac16 is the goal and academically I think we’ll be ready in, dare I say, 5 years?… We’ve added two new doctoral programs this year alone and incoming freshmen GPA’s have hit their stride. Lets hope this provides a huge boost in graduation rate.
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
It's kinda like once you get into a relationship, you're suddenly more attractive to the opposite sex.
They want you more because someone else wants you too.
by Adkoon on Nov 4, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Haha
Rec’d
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
What Does "Work In That Direction" Entail?
Isn’t joining an AQ conference “working in that direction”?
by MooreWalksOnWater on Nov 4, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Remember...
The only prerequisite for joining a conference is desire. If we only wanted to join the BIG/PAC XII badly enough, it would simply happen. A magical invitation would scribe, and send itself in the mail and voila! We’re in that conference! So, by “work in that direction,” I think what he means is we need to want it more. Send out stronger positive vibes to the universe. Hey, it worked for this guy
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by Xavier Malawi on Nov 4, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
That movie always gave me the creeps!
Although the scene where Fred Savage, as the younger brother, rides around the block on his bigwheel is epic.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget about the squirt-gun...
…filled with piss.
Oh, I didn't forget it...
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Give up the Big 12
Cause it’s not gonna happen. They don’t want us. Small stadium, tiny TV market, the furthest out of their footprint, and we’ll whoop them and take their money and recruits. The Big 12 has never been interested in us and I’d be surprised if they ever will be.
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by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 4, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Big East
Money to expand the stadium and east coast exposure to expand our fan base/TV market will help with that. Honestly I’d prefer the Pac12 over the Big12 as far as travel to games and rivalries go, but that’s just me. We need that money to expand our academics too and that’d he’ll get a Pac invite as well.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
by Moto2.5 on Nov 4, 2011 11:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Or have a worse TV market?
I didn’t know Morgantown was that big….
"All we can do is win the games on our schedule" - Coach Pete
by givemesomemoore on Nov 5, 2011 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions
It is a no brainer.
I think the Mega-alliance between C-usa and MWC is a horrible idea that will be the laughed at for years to come, if it even happens. If Utah, BYU, and TCU would have stayed, or if even 2 of the 3 stayed it might be worth it, but now we need to look out for ourselves and no one will ever convince me that the MWC will be a more lucrative and viable option in the long run. I actually hope that Fresno, Nevada, and Hawaii bail on the MWC to stay in the Wac and then poach some of their schools, Craig T would love that!
"The only things certain in life are death, taxes and Boise State winning at least 10 games."
Mike Lopresti-USA Today
The mega merger deal sure reminds me a lot of the WAC
Before the Mtn West Split off… Become a HUGE conference to get some respect, and then take the best teams and start your own party…
I can see it now.
The WAC 3.0 Redoux
Idaho
Utah State
San Jose State
Hawaii
Fresno State
Nevada
New Mexico State
UNLV
Colorado State
Wyoming
San Diego State
New Mexico
CUSA takes Texas State, UTSA, and LaTech.
I think for the progression of the football program, the Big East is a necessary move.
I think there is something to the waiting to negotiate a TV deal, that will end up working out in the end. Whether with tWWL or someone else, the Big East with Boise State in it is going to be a draw. And we all should know and accept by now that if you want to see the Broncos continue to grow and move forward, then money is ultimately the vehicle. If you’re not writing checks yourself to support Bronco Athletics, I think you can hardly blame them for taking a leap here.
Second, the MWC is simply not the same conference it was when Boise State accepted the invite. The three teams giving the conference credibility left shortly afterwards. Look at this year. The MWC looks no better then the WAC and the conference and SOS arguments contiue to reign down on the program despite their own best efforts to improve. Those may continue in the Big East, but you can’t deny its still yet another improvement in competition. For me personally all the quirks of the MWC (including stepping on our tradition at home games) is just one more reason to get the hell out while we can.
AQ Status. Having it for the next few season is better than not having it at all. Big East teams have sucked wind in the past but still rake in the millions from AQ Affiliation. Now Boise State can get in on the loot. It’s only fair the winningest team in the BCS era should reap the rewards of it too.
East Coast Media and audiences. This is really an overlooked part of this move. Boise State football will constantly be in front of the eyes of all those detractors who continually count the Broncos out, simply becuase they’re way out in Idaho. Out of sight, out of mind and all that. Well, not anymore. Boise State football will benefit from that access.
Future Conference Realigment. Think about it. TCU was an outcast in the eyes of the BIGXII for the better part of a decade. Suddenly becoming a future Big East member changed that perception. It stands to reason that the same thing could, and may happen with Boise State. Look at the Big East as Boise State’s jumping off point to big time college football. The MWC had the opportunity to take on Boise several years ago and make it a formidable conference. They opted out on that. Oh well.
In the long run this will be Boise State’s transition into full on Nationally Known Football Commodity. It will be a good thing to see Coach Pete stay and watch the University build itself just as Florida State and Miami did years ago. The Olympic Sports will do fine in the WCC or the Big West, both of which are formidable in Basketball. I think this another step forward for Boise State University. I only wish Bleymaier was still around for it.
"We gave up a couple of scores at the end of the first half and we don't like to let teams feel like they're really in it," - Tyler Shoemaker, on winning.
by Mikrino on Nov 4, 2011 8:57 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
An especially cogent point:
If you’re not writing checks yourself to support Bronco Athletics, I think you can hardly blame them for taking a leap here.
Big checks, I might add. Really big.
You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.
THIS
I’ve stated a time or two, if I ever win the lotto, a nice chunk of that money would go to the stadium expansion and athletic department, as well as the school in general. They wouldn’t even have to name the stadium after me, just season tickets for good seats would be nice.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
by Moto2.5 on Nov 4, 2011 11:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought about this too. I don't want the stadium to be named 4EverbleedBlue either
so what I came up with is this, make them name it Chris Petersen stadium and then he’d really never leave us!
by 4EverBleedBlue on Nov 4, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
This thread brought a tear to my eye.
But instead I would first replace the Audio and TV Screen, then rename it Kellen Vision, which of course means it’s crystal clear and catches everything.
by Bring the HAMMER! on Nov 4, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
If it catches everything, maybe we could call it "Miller Time"
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd both!
Kellen Vision is the most ridiculously AWESOME idea ever! Haha!
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
2nd on the rec's ...
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by Lestermeister on Nov 4, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Better than "Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets Stadium" though
Which by the way would only apply to hermaphrodite pets, right? Think about it for a second… :)
I would do the same thing. Except a condition of my donation would be that the school never sells the naming rights.
/still mad about the Pavillion.
//it will always be the Pavillion to me.
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"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation
I just wrote something about that...
…I think I was talking about how Gonzaga used to play us before they got too cool for school. It will always be the Pavilion.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
yeah, i saw that after posting this. lol.
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"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation
I agree with Kevan/Official OBNUG take
I hate the fact that it has come to this… but we dont really have a choice. The MWC is now a turd and if the other teams that are being invited leave and that whole C-USA MWC merger takes affect, there will be NO ONE left. So our choice is to stay and fall off the face of the earth or go and keep our fingers crossed. The situation is a crapshoot.
Correction: The MWC [has always been] a turd
Everything that’s gone down in the MWC has proven that Craig Thompson is a terrible AD. First bad choice, adding TCU over BSU. It’s gone all downhill from there.
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Had to go with good.
Maybe this isn’t ideal, but the MWC ignored us until it needed us, chased off the teams we came to play, banned our blue, and has a terrible tv deal. So yeah, not “best,” but “good.”
Well said. So we trash them for two years as payback...
bag a couple more conference trophies and a bowl games then ride off into the sunset…er…sunrise.
I would be even more happy if we get out of the MWC in only one year. Maybe the BE is anxious enough to pony up the exit fee :)
Bring Tulsa and/or Southern Mississippi.
’sides, Coach Pete says go.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
Would be ironically funny if
Big East won their counter lawsuit against WVU, got paid big in the Unspecified Damages category, and used that to cut a deal for 14M cash right now to buy BSU out early from the MWC.
I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010
You raise valid points, Kevan
for letting this bus pass us by. I think we’re all a little nervous about the unknowns, the “fear factor.” But you also make an astute observation:
the Broncos have to do something
Decisions in life are rarely clear-cut. Most of life is an uncertain gamble, and that’s why insurance companies are so wealthy. But President Kustra and his team of advisors, especially Coach Pete, has to act with the best possible information at hand at a specific time. It’s the headache that all commanders face (and it’s lonely at the top), but, when it’s obvious that inaction will do harm, one has to move with the plan that shows the most promise at that time.
For BSU football, the WAC is not an option. The MWC is already withering. The Big East may do so, too, but it seems to hold the seeds of a future for the Broncos. It may be a bad decision, but we won’t know that for a few years. By that time, the landscape will again have changed (that’s a guarantee!), and whomever our commander is will again make the best decision with the available intelligence at the time.
Regardless of whatever outcome, the sun will continue to rise over Tablerock.
by SeniorChief on Nov 4, 2011 9:03 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This is so what I have been thinking but lacked the context to frame and voice my thoughts
Thanks Chief.
I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010
If I remember 6th grade geography correctly,
Isn’t Colorado, Arizona and Utah all part of the West coast? Just curious.
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I always thought Idaho was in the Midwest?
You know, between Iowa and Ohio.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
So true...i hear that all the time.
That and, “I-dah-ho?…..you-dah-ho!”
No Adkoon...YOU-dah-ho!
Snap!
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Air travel and the internet...
it ain’t our grandaddy’s geography.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
I like the idea of us staying outside of AQ conferences.
Let our merits outside of the elitist club continue to upset the status quo. They can keep belittling us for being in a weak conference, and we’ll keep beating AQ teams brave enough to play us. I would rather stand as a symbol against not including deserving teams simply because of which conference we play in.
That’s just me, though.
I appreciate the point
To this end, I would say we should never forget where we came from. (I came from Boise!)
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Me too!
"We gave up a couple of scores at the end of the first half and we don't like to let teams feel like they're really in it," - Tyler Shoemaker, on winning.
Um, well actually I was born in Florida...
…but my family moved to Boise when I was 2 months old, so I think that’s good enough.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
Oh, you're one of those...
I kid, I kid.
Boise, Idaho born and raised right here! St Luke’s hospital baby!
"We gave up a couple of scores at the end of the first half and we don't like to let teams feel like they're really in it," - Tyler Shoemaker, on winning.
We used to go on field trips to St. Luke's...
…as an adult it seems that going to a hospital for a field trip is kind of weird though.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
An understandable stance
Noble, even. Nobility doesn’t pay the bills, though. And the bill for exposure and competition is and will continue to get larger.
You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.
If only we had Nike...
I guess in that case we would have never been on the outside looking in… I like that, as we enter the AQ world we should never forget where we came from.
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I think there is a Coach Pete/Phil Knight connection though, if I'm not mistaken...
Anyone on this? I remember this being part of the reason for fearing Coach Pete taking the Oregon job someday.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
Yes, he was the QB coach at Oregon under Belloti.
He and Phil Knight are friendly.
"We gave up a couple of scores at the end of the first half and we don't like to let teams feel like they're really in it," - Tyler Shoemaker, on winning.
Shush yo mouf!
You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.
But he's talkin' about Pete!
So we can dig it.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is a very noble idea.
But so is jumping on a grenade to save the life of a complete stranger, when it is all said and done you won’t be able to survive.
"The only things certain in life are death, taxes and Boise State winning at least 10 games."
Mike Lopresti-USA Today
by Acash1983 on Nov 4, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Money, Money, Money
I think we all have that same sentiment and in a beautiful perfect world that would be great, but unfortunately “symbols” don’t make money. BSU needs money to grow its institution and it will not happen in the Mountain West. Even if Big East looses their AQ, the new TV deal they are negotiating will make the change well worth it.
I never thought of it this way before...
BSU enjoys the idea of playing in Las Vegas and Poinsettia Bowls from here to eternity.
Not only does our chances of playing in a BCS NC game and a BCS Bowl game change, but here is what BSU’s other Bowls will look like depending on how high we finish in the Big E.
#1….. Random BCS Game….. $18,000,000.
#2….. Champs Sports….. $2,325,000… ACC#3
#3….. Belk….. $1,700,000… ACC#5
#4….. Pinstripe….. $1,800,000… Big12#7
#5….. BBVA Compass….. $600,000… SEC#8
#6….. Beef ‘O’ Brady’s….. $500,000 CUSA#4
Right now the MWC has two bowls that pay $1.1M two that pay about $700,000 and the others pay $500,000.
by Jay Weston on Nov 4, 2011 9:25 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Even though it would mean no BCS game in a given year...
…it would be awesome to see the Broncos play in Yankee Stadium (I have a 12 game plan for the Yanks, would love to have an excuse to go there for football).
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
P.S. My vote was for none of the above.
I think the jury is still out. How it looks right now the BigE is going to be a nice stepping stone for the BCS. The BigE has most of the benefits of a BCS conference, but it is weak enough that we could come in and contend in the conference every year.
The BigE is guaranteed a BCS spot until 2016 and it is not out of the realm of possibilities that BSU could be in the BigE championship game the four years between 2013-2016. That is four years of going great, building our stadium and biulding “depth” for a Big12/Pac16 invite.
Nice Stepping Stone...
If you said this is a nice stepping stone to getting BSU to where it needs to be, then you should have voted good because that means this is a good move. The only reason Kustra likes the move is because he thinks it gets BSU closer to the PAC-12. All moves that get you closer to a accomplishing a goal are good moves.
Maybe I should have voted good, because as I see it now it is a good deal for us.
But I didn’t want to get burned again.
When we joined the MWC I thought it was a great move. One that was going to bring in a new era for BSU. Then Utah left… It hurt, but I still loved the conference. Then, BYU left and it started looking gloom. Then TCU left and the moved seemed pointless. Then we were informed the MWC would not let us wear blue jerseys at home and I just left like I was kicked while I was on the ground.
Right now if things play out like what is being reporting then, yes I say this is a good move. But before I declare that, I want to know about the new ESPN Deal, who is staying in the conference, who is coming into the conference, how the divisions will be setup, will we keep the bowl tie-ins and how long will we have a BCS bid. But until some of those questions are answered I voted for none of the above.
Rec'd!
…forgot all about going 11-1 (or 11.95-.05) and having no other bowl options than the Sam Boyd Sin City vs Pac 12 Dregs Bowl or the Kraft Haigh Ashbury Soup Kitchen Last Chance Bowl. Sheesh. Yours is a great post!
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
NYBroncosFan is finally gonna get his!
Much like Nick, I am very stoked at the idea of actually getting to some live games now (last time I was at an actual BSU game was the 1990s). Note my signature.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 9:29 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, here I just moved from Kentucky back out west.
And they’ll be playing conference games just two hours from where I lived in a couple years.
"We gave up a couple of scores at the end of the first half and we don't like to let teams feel like they're really in it," - Tyler Shoemaker, on winning.
I'm seriously happy for you man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Since the distances from Boise
are going to be greater, and therefore not as economical for airfare, we’re going to have to rely on you more easterly members of Bronco Nation to represent us by traveling to the games in your neck of the woods (read: east of the Mississippi).
It is my sincere hope, NYBroncos, that you can convince The New Yorker magazine to update their famous map and include the Blue Turf somewhere out there on the other side of the Hudson.

It's not the distance that creates more expensive air travel...
It’s the availablility of large airports near your destination. It’s general cheaper to fly from LA to NY than it is to fly from LA to say Omaha, Nebraska. More passengers, more flights=cheaper airfare. And there are plenty of very large airports on the East coast. It’s not as expensive as you think, speaking from experience.
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by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 4, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Done.

BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Tres cool!
You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.
Yay!
You DO have friends in high places, don’t you? That was quick. Now, your task is to distribute this map to everyone on the east coast so they will know where to come see the games. We don’t want them stopping off in Iowa.
But I wonder why Utah is so far to the south of the Blue? Maybe the earthquake or something. Other than that, it looks pretty accurate.
Utah is also south of Las Vegas...
New Yorkers aren’t much for geography. As for your other point:
Now, your task is to distribute this map to everyone on the east coast so they will know where to come see the games. We don’t want them stopping off in Iowa.
I might need a week or two on that one.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, from what I hear,
you probably have until 2013. But you can skip Georgia. I think they’re aware of where we are.
Don't forget...
Syracuse is still in the league for the next two years, too. Yet another game close enough to travel to for you…
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 4, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Good point!
I know a lot of Syracuse fans (of course they pretend the football team doesn’t exist).
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Just be sure to wear Blue instead of orange, lol
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 4, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
When Greg Robinson was coaching the team
It really felt a lot better that way.
I'm with you!
I’ve got teh two florida schools about 35 mintues from my house! My three daughters are very excited about the opportunity to go to a bronco game, and to actually be able to drive there.
Party at YOUR house...
how cool would that be. Well played NY!
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
We can always pull a "TCU" if things don't look so good prior to 2013.
Hell, we’ll just take a better offer (ala TCU) if it comes along between now and 2013. Hate to sound so jaded, but this type of outlook is a necessity, based on how conference-switching is playing out.
Remember, it will cost 10 mil to leave
BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.
It's a yes and no. Yes I voted twice!
Yes because of the same old arguments which is exposure and money money money. But a No because of how basketball gets the short stick. Basketball is on their way up with Leon Rice (we went to WAC championship last year) The reported conferences would be big west ( 80% California schools) the WAC or the west coastal coference ( because of religious ties they already mentioned they are not interested) so our real options are a dwindling WAC or the big west who mentioned not wanting the travel to Boise Idaho. ……really going back to the WAC I hate to see Leon rice’s expression after hearing that….I feel bad for them.
"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- WG#99
by BustersBroncosBustsBCS on Nov 4, 2011 9:51 AM PDT reply actions
I am worried about basketball and the other olympic sports too...
..but I think something will work out. I would love to see the WCC send an invite but it doesn’t look likely.
I don’t understand why the Big Sky hasn’t been mentioned as a landing spot for BSU’s other sports. I would much rather see Montana, Weber, Portland State than the schools of the Big West.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
It's been mentioned a few times
If you look at basketball conference rankings though, the Big Sky is pretty low…definitely a downgrade.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Any of the aformentioned conferences...
Would be a step down for basketball, the MWC is a pretty good basketball conference, in the top ten conferences if I remember right.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
by Moto2.5 on Nov 4, 2011 11:39 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
being there
is half the battle… I am sure that BSU will get better opportunities to schedule Non-Conference basketball games with our new football rivals, and if we can actually get to the big dance again, be one of the 64 best teams in the country, then maybe we will have to opportunity to go to all sports in the Big East. Coach Rice has to like the idea of getting a better chance to play the Big East Basketball Schools based on the football relationship… Seriously they are going to have to schedule us just to save face… We kill them on the Blue, they return the favor on the court mentality…
Big West is PERFECT for Coach Rice and Team
Think about it. Coach Rice just came from the WCC. He coached (assistant all be it) one of the top teams in that league. For those unaware, that league is small and only has a couple good schools: Gonzaga and St. Maries. Sure Loyola Marymount does well every now and then but the rest of the league stinks. I think the Big West could be a great incubator for Coach Rice to get this program going and in a few years maybe we see ourselves stiff arming the BE into letting our BBall team in… Big West has some ok bball schools… Their conf champ beat us last year (Long Beach State). Long Beach State reached the NIT last season after losing to UCSB in the Big West final for the NCAA tournament berth. We could instantly contend for Big West Championships and NCAA or NIT Tourney berths.
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
The Big West is perfect
except they already came out and said they are not interested in a public school with no religious ties. bummer
"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- WG#99
by BustersBroncosBustsBCS on Nov 4, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that was the West Coast Conference, not the Big West
We used to be in the Big West before they dissolved as a football conference.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
I voted good because its the best option available to us
More money, more recruiting options, and hopefully will be a springboard to a future PAC 16
Oh, and because the MWC blows
by BKZ on Nov 4, 2011 9:52 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Have to make this move.
The money and the level of competion is much better than what a TCU less MWC can simply offer us. If that mythical Big 12 invite comes to us, we can do what TCU did (chip off the Big East 5$ million and say ‘thx but no thx’) and jump there. We have to be short sighted and try to get the most money and best opportunitites we can get at the moment and hope that something better opens up.
East
Rutgers
UConn
South Florida
Central Florida
Navy
Temple/Villinova
West
Cinncinati
Houston
SMU
Air Force
Loisville
Boise State
I can get into a conference like that.
Chris Petersen is in the dictionary next to the word AWESOME.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 4, 2011 10:42 AM PDT reply actions
Don't forget WVU, Pitt and Syracuse...
For the next 2 years at least.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 4, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
For all the posturing by the Big East offices (and by WVU and the Big 12)
I’d bet a lot on WVU to the Big 12, Mizzou to the SEC, Pitt and SU to the ACC, and a ton of newcomers to the Big East all happening for the 2013 season.
The reason the Big East is holding them...
Is because if they were to leave, the Big East would only have five teams next season, which isn’t enough to field a conference. Once all the new teams enter in 2013, I think the Big East will let them go.
I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.
I think they'll try to hold them regardless
WVU helps bolster their BCS credentials and so does Pitt, who was pretty good a couple of years ago. Syracuse is another story (although they’ve improved the last two seasons), but you can’t let one go and keep the others. Plus Syracuse’s basketball program means money for the Big East as well.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
While
It’s definitely a no-brainer to get in to a big 6 conference now while you can.
I don’t follow BSU football really so I don’t know who you guys have lined up next for QB, but I can easily see you guys running the table in the Big East for the foreseeable future.
Each year you’ll probably get at most 2 road games that you might be a little worried about. The other half of the road games you guys will be easily favored. Any games played at Boise I don’t see you guys ever being less than a 2-score favorite.
Appreciate the respect and kind words...
We’ve got a stable of QBs lined up for next year. Everyone familiar with the team and our recruits is figuring it’ll be a 3 or 4 way battle for starter, which I can live with as long as the right guy comes out on top, regardless of who it is.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
by Moto2.5 on Nov 4, 2011 11:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The big difference is that
1 loss in the MWC and WAC means obscurity and failure. In the Big East we can still probably get to a BCS game with 1 loss and even with 3 losses (god forbid) we still get BCS money and a decent bowl game.
Chris Petersen is in the dictionary next to the word AWESOME.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 4, 2011 2:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I like it for you guys
Obviously not the best-case scenario but it is definitely an improvement over MWC:
-Better TV $$$
-Better competition
-East coast exposure
-Better Bowls
-AQ bid (most likely)
-I also really think it will be good for your recruiting in Texas and Florida playing SMU, Houston, UCF, & USF.
Keep winning games, make improvements to your facilities and academics and BSU should continue to climb the ladder and look more desirable come the next wave of expansion.
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
Probably most of this list worked for TCU as well when you guys were planning to go to the BE
So I’m sure it’s not tough to relate. Of course, if we got a Big 12 invite, we’d probably do the same as you did too.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, you're right
Here’s what I wrote when TCU accepted the bid to the BE- http://www.mwcconnection.com/2010/11/29/1843502/wagons-east-my-thoughts-on-tcus-impending-move-to-the-big-east Strangely similar to the BSU invite
The Pro’s were mostly what I listed above with the cons being travel and conference instability, boy what an understatement that was.
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
Big 12,
looks stable(relative to what they were looking like a month ago) at the moment. Hopefully TCU can find some success there for your sake and will not act like snobby doucebags like Utah and schedule a home and home with Boise State in the future for our sakes.
Chris Petersen is in the dictionary next to the word AWESOME.
by warriorsscore110 on Nov 4, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love to see BSU basketball land in the WCC
Just the thought of Gonzaga rolling into Taco Bell Arena gets me pumped.
Leon Rice doesn't share your "pumped"
You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.
Leon himself
j/k. I was listening to Dumb and Dumber on the radio yesterday (now in FM!), and they seemed to think Rice didn’t want to do it. Now, can you quit making me embarrass myself any more?
You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.
Funny thing about Gonzaga...
I remember seeing them play in that place you call “Taco Bell Arena”, which I will refer to as the “BSU Pavilion.” We used to schedule them as a non-conference opponent back before they suddenly became the “next big thing” in college basketball.
This was during the Bobby Dye era, which I remember looking through rose-colored goggles (goggles in honor of Tanoka Beard, who wore them his freshman year).
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 4, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't really embarrassed
You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.
Wouldn't happen anyways
WCC is all private schools, why would they go through the administrative hassle of working with a public school for Boise State? They’re all religious school as well. It isn’t going to happen. Big West is just as good.
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 4, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
There's really no other option.
Boise can’t leave that kind of money on the table end of story.
However, I don’t think Boise was ever in a situation that felt so temporary going into it.
Not even going into the MWC?
You cannot reason a man out of something he didn't reason himself into in the first place.
When we first entered the MWC...
It felt like a conference that we were going to be in for awhile. The Big East seriously just feels like a marriage of convenience that we will bail on the second we get a better offer. I seriously cannot see us in the Big East for the long term.
I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.
MWC felt permanent for about a week
Or however long it was before Utah bailed.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
Anyone notice
that in the first picture the person just above the G has their face “censored” out by a snowflake?
Too bad he didn’t get his moment of fame =/ It’s like Mike Wazowski from Monsters Inc.
2013 season?
Boise would be added for the 2013 season? As much as I think they’ll go undefeated in the Big East, I’m definitely anxious to see how it pans out. Maybe I’m too used to seeing them pound their conference opponents the past 6 or 7 years that I assume it’ll continue.
L’ville, UCONN, Rutgers, South Florida are very average football teams. Still, facing those teams 4 or 5 weekends in a row should be interesting.
All depends on the QB situation
I feel confident with our depth at every other position, but whoever wins the Hedrick/Southwick/Laughrea/Patti battle needs to impress next year if we want to be favored to win in 2013
BTW, that will be a GREAT battle
Not that it makes up for a post-Kellen world…
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
For what its worth
My money is on Hedrick, he just seems like he has the most intangibles, but I haven’t seen Patti or Laughrea play at all, so take my opinion for the nothing its worth ;). I just think he is better the Southwick and that the year in a backup role will give him a leg up on Laughrea and Patti
LOUD NOISES!
I always go full retard
ಠ_ಠ
by sczmbz on Nov 4, 2011 1:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Good move IF...
1] TV money pays for the stadium expansion and my BAA & season ticket costs don’t have to go up any more.
2] The new alliance of teams in the Big East stay together for a while… so that Fresno, New Mexico, and San Jose State aren’t invited to join next year.
Not going to happen
They’d add Temple and Villanova first. No way the Big East would expand to Cali like that. The only reason they came as far west as us is because they needed the credibility that BSU gives the conference. SJSU and Fresno don’t add that credibility.
There is only one California team I wouldn't mind
Other than Nevada or SDSU I wouldn’t want any of the others in the Big East unless they make a massive turn around in their on field performance and they do it consistently.
Re: While I respect the views of those who want to continue on in the MWC
As cool as it would be to continue to be the perennial BCS Buster, that boat can only sail for so long before people get tired of it. We have to think about growth potential and need to use the media and rankings to our advantage and strike while the iron is hot. The University needs money and the ability to grow and develop as a program. Staying in the MWC offers little to no growth potential for Boise. Even though it’s risky and not ideal the Big East gives us an opportunity at least.
The Big East is a good stepping stone, but ...
… I’m hoping (if it actually happens), that they will be able to pull a TCU and accept an invite from the Big 12, as they attempt to get back to 12 teams … I am still hoping for a road trip every other year to watch the Broncos destroy Iowa State (and get me an excuse to get back to visit my folks, who live 30 miles away from Ames) …
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
Greed.
This feels like greed to me. We’ve been successful with what we’ve been doing, so let’s keep at it. I don’t want Boise football to become manipulated by money and turn into some commercialized product. Boise football is about the underdog rattling the cage, representing the little guy, not about becoming part of the establishment. Blegh to everything about this.
In a perfect world
I would agree with you, but Boise State cannot continue to grow and develop as a program or as a school and play at the highest level without funding. We can either stay where we are and for a time continue as a little guy sticking it to the Big Boys but as soon as the media novelty wears off, we fade into obscurity (We have already seen Boise State hurt by the MWC’s media deal as they get less national coverage). So do we make like the U of I and regress as a football program or do we want to see them continue to work their way up and play more and more Big name teams, that is only going to happen with increased funding, expanded stadium, etc.
Yes, but don't forget what the football money brings to the school and community
It’s real easy to think only about football here but that money pays for things well beyond football. If you want BSU academics to continue to get better, that money can help tremendously.
We are all learning to embrace the greed...
…as dirty as that feels. Mo money for lockers,seats, recruiting, etc., and blue and orange signs across the good ole’ USA.
And the great bottom line – mo money for BSU beyond the blue.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
I think it's a good thing
It is more frustrating to win most of your games and still not make it to a decent bowl vs losing your games and not making it. This move will definetly give bsu more opportunities and lastly I live on the east coast so will get to see them live more.
by sidfromsbnation on Nov 4, 2011 3:29 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
Good Point
I’ll bet you guys get tons of BSU games on the Mountain Network over there.
THink of the children!
"you miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- WG#99
by BustersBroncosBustsBCS on Nov 4, 2011 4:04 PM PDT reply actions
You are correct
It’s about building a quality university, better facilities, stadium, etc. That would take about 30 years in the MWC or the MWC/C-USA merger.
My biggest concern and the biggest concern of all of Bronco Nation is...
If BSU goes to the Big East: does this mean that Fresneck will never win the Milk Can? It would be sad to end the “rivalry” with Fresneck never actually winning this piece of crap that we’ve been lugging around for years. If we don’t plan to play them again, we should get 1/2 of the shipping costs back.
by 43-42_Stop_Crying on Nov 5, 2011 5:00 AM PDT reply actions
Sometimes life gets boring and you need to shake things up.
This is one of those times.
Voted BAD (but I am an Oregon fan, so my opinion ain't worth s^^^)
Still,
it is silly to have a team from the NW playing in the ‘Big East’ conference.
Not that Boise State is silly. Far from it. Rather, the NCAA and the pig Presidents of the member universities who clearly get payoffs in order to keep this insane ‘Bowl Championship Series’ albatross alive, have created the necessity of a team from the NW playing in a conference like the Big East (the Beast!) in order to hopefully, someday, having a shot at playing in the so-called ‘National Championship’ game (when this year really, truly, should be Boise’s year to do so if the deal wasn’t rigged from the start).
The System is due to implode soon.
When it does, Boise State can give the middle finger to the Big East and return to playing teams from the Pacific and Mountain time zones.
But until that day comes, the only logical choice for y’all is to hold your noses and join that Atlantic Coast conference of basketball and (a few) football teams.
why
why would boise st. want to part of the big east . i see it as a lateral move . is there really any more credability in the big east than the mountain west. a move to the pac 12 (if there is room) would be great creating regional rivalry and travel in their own time zone.
How is this a good move?
Sorry, folks, but let’s speak heresy here for a moment or two. According to Sagarin, the Big Least is one of the worst of the six AQ conferences. Over the next couple of years, their “best” teams are all bailing for much better AQ conferences. My opinion—ESPN and Fox will very likely NOT negotiate any kind of decent TV contract with the new "conference", the Big East is going to lose its AQ status by 2015, the other AQ conferences will NOT, in fact, extend an invitation to the Broncos, and we’ll still be seen as a pack of peasants who only play cupcake teams.
Hope I’m wrong, but I’m not as sanguine about this move as everyone else.
It's a matter of options
Honestly I’m sorry but the people who are voting no, don’t understand the politics of FBS football or the way the BCS works. There are tons of “What ifs” in either scenario. We can sit here and argue back on speculation. Here are the tangible facts:
1) The Big East has a BCS Bid until the 2014 BCS bowl season.
2) The BCS has stated that there is no guarantee that the MWC/C-USA merger will ever get a bid.
3) The media payout alone in the Big East is almost double what the MWC is (at least under current arrangements)
4) Under the MWC there are 4 teams that have overall losing records in their entire history. Under the MWC/C-USA alliance there are 10.
5) In the proposed big east of the 12 teams only 2 (maybe 3 with the 12th) have overall losing records in their history and those 2 are just barely missing the mark and are on the upswing. 1 team is sitting right about dead even and the rest all post well over .500 overall winning records. The bottom line is that although we can’t count on a bunch of ranked opponents as additions we also wouldn’t have opponents that regularly end up on the who is who list of the worst of college football teams. Very frustrating to beat an opponent by 50 only to be jumped by a BCS opponent that barely squeaks by in one of their games with a win over a “so-so” team.
6) NO OTHER BCS CONFERENCE WILL PICK UP BOISE STATE FOR THEIR MONEY/MEDIA MARKET OR OVERALL ACADEMIC RECORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Although that could change in the future we are still probably talking another 20 years down the road before that could start becoming a reality.
7) Houston and UCF have already been given approval to explore other options, which is generally the first step taken when leaving a conference. Yeah, not guaranteed that they leave but they have taken that first step. Losing 2 teams with good overall records IS NOT something the MWC/C-USA can afford as they need all of the teams with winning records that they can get.
8) Even with a bid in the MWC/C-USA merger they would have to share the proceeds between 2 conferences and 21 mouths versus one conference and 11 mouths. So they would need to be getting significantly more than the Big East currently has in order to offset the additional payouts.
9) The Big East and the Mountain West are the ONLY viable options for Boise State for now and the not too distant future. The Big 12 is staying put at 10 for the next season at least, the ACC content with 14 and SEC with 14 and the Big 10 with 12 and the PAC12 WILL NOT go beyond 12 (neither will the Big 10) unless they get a really big name school with a large media market and academics (ie Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma, etc.)
10) The MWC has a super crappy media deal that although on paper looks good with extra revenue for the schools, ultimately kills the teams’ media exposure by putting half their games on versus and the mtn. The Mountain Network in particular is a killer since out of the mountain region the only way to get it is for someone to pay for a premium package with direct tv. Good luck getting it for the folks who have dish network or one of the local cable systems. They actually had better media coverage with the WAC with 7 of their games last season on ESPN. Anyone in the country with a basic cable or sat package could see them (or those with access to Watch ESPN streaming online).
11) Even if the Big 12 does expand again next season there are 2-3 other schools would would have to turn down offers (highly unlikely) before Boise State would be given an invitation (ie Louisville and Tulane).
12) This gives Boise more shot at exposure at the coveted Texas and Florida markets
13) If the Big East did lose AQ status how hard do you think it would be for Boise to find another non-AQ conference? I promise you it would not be difficult as long as they can keep on doing what they have done.
14) Air Force has also been mentioned as a target and with Nevada, Fresno State and Hawaii coming on board, the only thing Boise State has gained over the WAC is a slightly higher paycheck and Air Force and maybe SDSU, with Air Force gone that would essentially leave them right back to square one with a schedule that is virtually indistinguishable from what they had in the WAC.
The bottom line is that there are a whole bunch of what ifs in either scenario but ultimately the advantages and risks are greater with the Big East than their current deal and there are no realistic options elsewhere for the next several years.

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