Chris Petersen coaching rumors: UCLA comes calling (again)
by Kevan Lee on Nov 29, 2011 8:00 AM PST
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Tis the season for hard luck college football teams to come a-courting for new coaches, and as per usual, Chris Petersen's name is at the top of pretty much everyone's wish list. To get things started, the UCLA Bruins are reportedly interested in hiring Petersen to replace Rick Neuheisel, like, yesterday, and to prove how serious they are, Bruin athletic director Dan Guerrero will be traveling to Boise with pockets full of cash to woo Coach Pete away.
We are currently at Threat Level Fat Chance.
From the sound of things, UCLA is prepared to offer Coach Pete $3 million in annual salary, promises of improved facilities, and a couple cool mil for his assistant coaches. They would also be offering a quality of life akin to Mordor. And if all this UCLA talk has you thinking deja vu, there's a good reason for that.
If and when Coach Pete turns down the Bruins, UCLA is expected to turn its attention to Houston coach Kevin Sumlin and Monday Night Football analyst Jon Gruden. Failing that, I hear Tom Cable - yes, that Tom Cable - is also a candidate. Oh UCLA, never change.
In other soon-to-be Coach Pete coaching rumors ...
Arizona State is looking for a new head coach. Any suggestions?
The Sun Devils fired Dennis Erickson this week and now turn their attention to someone other than Dennis Erickson. Seriously, I'm not sure if they had anyone else in mind when they fired him. They just really wanted Erickson gone.
Coach Pete's name has yet to surface as a serious candidate, and when or if it does, we will all be sure to have a communal belly laugh.
Threat Level Nope
Washington State is expected to fire Paul Wulff today. Hey, Wazzu is Boise-like!
Due to its proximity to the state of Idaho and its status as a Pac-12 school, Washington State will likely be connected to Coach Pete rumors some point soon after the firing of Paul Wulff is made official today. There is still a slim chance that Wulff will remain on the Palouse, provided he doesn't show anyone any film from any of his Wazzu teams.
A Seattle newspaper site is reporting that Mike Leach would be an excellent candidate for the Cougars job, so here's hoping that happens for WSU because the Coach Pete thing never will in a million years.
Threat Level Nope
(HT: Mikrino and others for the coaching rumor news)
Your turn
How likely do you think it is that Coach Pete takes an interest in the UCLA job? Are there any rumors out there that you worry about? Can you even imagine him going to Pullman? That's hilarious! Share your thoughts in the comments.
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what's dumb
is that people were saying (on Twitter) Wilcox was telling his players at Tennessee he was going to go with Pete to UCLA.
BUT WAIT. The detailed benefits are not just your average dollars-under-the-table, or some lameass "we let some players sleep at an apartment on the floor with a coach's help" allegations. No, you get the hell out of here, Boise.
--EDSBS
Twitter: @damienbsu
That's where the power of Twitter can be dangerous.
Nate Kuester started the fire storm with an overreation to “rampant rumors” and half the world retweeted. A few asked for his source and Murphy of all people kind of called him on the carpet, before he backtracked and emphasized that they were rumors.
Best I could tell, there was very little to no chatter about Wilcox on Twitter until Kuester chimed in. Not sure where he was hearing rampant rumors.
"It's hardly a groundbreaking thought, but defeat is when you know you're a fan. It's easy to clap and cheer when a team wins, but when they lose, that's when you know if you care or not." - Craig Robinson
Love the graphics, Kevan.
There should be one on the front page at all times during this time of year when everyone and their dog is trying to lure him away from home.
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Haha, yeah. Mad Photoshop skillz Kevan!
Love the play on the Threat Level graphic.
Yeh, I'm A Little Concerned
My only concerns are: (1) If UCLA came calling a second time, they must have sweetened the pot. There may be even more in their offer than we are aware of. (2) Coach Pete has seemed very unhappy this entire season.
We’ve all made choices we regret, so anything is possible. But, I expect Coach Pete will stay in Boise. I’m confident he won’t be going to Washington or Arizona.
I was thinking that too
They’re not going to come calling again without adjusting what didn’t work the first time. We should at least raise the threat level to “dubious”
by Adkoon on Nov 29, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
UCLA's AD Dan Guerrero is desperate this time -- (how many AD's get to hire three football coaches)
I would raise the threat level to sweating.
this coming from a bruin..ha
by AAFORS on Nov 29, 2011 10:16 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
recommended, but...
he has a point that we are desperate haha
Playing home games in the Rose Bowl would be kind of cool though...
Sorry. Just sayin’
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
Penn State active list
Thought I’d add a new name to the List of coach enticees. Penn State has started looking for fresh out of the area winning coaches.
Big whoop
It’s going to take more than a “fresh out of the area winning” coach to cleanse the stench off that program.
The battle for hierarchy is more intense the lower the class.
I don't know who is crazy enough to want to deal with the fallout there.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 29, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
This offends me in so many ways:
Failing that, I hear Tom Cable – yes, that Tom Cable – is also a candidate. Oh UCLA, never change.
Oh, they can have Cable if they want him. What offends me is that he is even on the same list as Pete.
The battle for hierarchy is more intense the lower the class.
if Tom Cable even gets serious consideration...
LA will be filled with the laughter of trojans
Why so confident re: UCLA?
Not flaming, just curious why you are so confident that Pete will stay. From an outsiders perspective it seems like there is SOME chance what with the not-so-perfect-storm of Kellen graduating, Bleymaier getting canned, and a tumultous conference situation. UCLA is not an “elite” job but it does offer more $$, prestigious conference affiliation, fertile recruiting base, brand name recognition, and the Rose Bowl. So from an “insiders” prospective, why does Pete stay?
P.S. I’ve always heard one of the reasons was that one of his children was sick but have never really heard one story that matches the next and why Boise would be better than LA because of it, anyone care to extrapolate?
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
Because Pete isn't driven by money.
He’s not an “L.A.” type of coach and he actually believes that bigger isn’t better whereas Hawkins was just saying it for a soundbite.
Pete met with Florida and turned them down…met with Stanford and turn them down. Why would UCLA be a sweeter deal for him?
by Drew Roberts on Nov 29, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Pete met with Florida and turned them down…met with Stanford and turn them down. Why would UCLA be a sweeter deal for him?
Re: UCLA>UF- Florida is on the other side of the country and I don’t think Pete has any ties to that part of the country. Pete does have ties to California and the UC school system.
Re: UCLA>Stanford- Stanford is a small, elite, private school with next to no history of success in cfb. It’s had to win there due to recruiting restrictions and poof fan support. UCLA has at least some winning tradition and a large fan base.
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
by Ben Findley on Nov 29, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
"winning tradition"?
They haven’t been relevant in football in two decades, iirc.
The battle for hierarchy is more intense the lower the class.
Won the Pac 10 in 97 and 98. Went 10-2 in 2005. Plus I said “some” and didn’t say “recent.” History and tradition in cfb is about more than two decades imo.
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
by Ben Findley on Nov 29, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
How many BSC bowls have they been in?
The same number they’ve won.
The battle for hierarchy is more intense the lower the class.
They've been in 1
They were in the 99’ Rose Bowl and lost to Wisconsin, 38-31. Google is your friend.
But the BCS has only existed since 98’ so I’m not sure what you’re point is because once again I am talking about history, not the past 15 years.
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
by Ben Findley on Nov 29, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
your*
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
by Ben Findley on Nov 29, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
If we are talking about history...
…maybe he should go coach at Navy.
CFB is a totally different world post ‘98 and will likely experience a seismic shift post 2012. Any “history” for UCLA is long gone. They are a basketball school that has put very little emphasis into building the football program. Facilities, fan base and program prestige fall well below what UCLA might have been in the 1980’s.
"It's hardly a groundbreaking thought, but defeat is when you know you're a fan. It's easy to clap and cheer when a team wins, but when they lose, that's when you know if you care or not." - Craig Robinson
by MKingery on Nov 29, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Remember
I was just comparing UCLA to Stanford in response to Drew’s question. Not singing the praises of UCLA by any means.
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
by Ben Findley on Nov 29, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Stanford has more NCs
more BCS bowls (including wins), an 11 win season this year and a 12 win one last, a new stadium (on campus at that) Say what you want about Stanford, they have shown a recent commitment to winning at football. UCLA can only claim it. Right now Stanford > UCLA.
by ev on Nov 29, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Pete just got another raise in the last month
He is now making $1.5 MM in total compensation for this year. With Cost of Living adjustments that equates to about a $2.4 MM salary in Westwood, so the reported $3 MM contract is a $600,000 bump in salary to rebuild a relic and put his coordinators in a worse Cost of Living situation.
We were worried about Stanford because he is from Northern California. If he passed that job, which is a program in far better shape and prestige at this current point in time, then we are not worried about him going to the 2nd best program in LA.
by idaho_techsan on Nov 29, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
"Why"?
Can’t buy me love. Simple.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
Um...
It’s had to win there due to recruiting restrictions and poof fan support. UCLA has at least some winning tradition and a large fan base.
It’s even harder to win at UCLA because they have trashy facilities and a horrendous athletic department that regularly misleads their fanbase.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
I hope you're right Drew, but...
…there’s been a movement amongst the UCLA fans and alumni this year (and maybe longer) to oust both Neuheisel and AD Dan Guerrero. I think there was even a letter accompanied by a signed petition which basically called on the President to replace both Neuheisel and Guerrero and then actually make a commitment to building a football program complete with the facilities required to compete in the PAC 12, and a head coach salary that is necessary to acquire top talent. If I’m not mistaken, a $3M offer for Pete would represent more than double that of what they’re paying Neuheisel. If that is true, then its clear that UCLA is already making a shift in their perspective towards finding a coach and that may also mean a new commitment to facilities and recruiting. I just hope none of those problems were the reason why Pete turned it down the first time around because I’m guessing that UCLA is developing a plan that goes beyond just the coach.
BTW…the UCLA fans are already getting behind this on Bruin Nation: http://www.bruinsnation.com/2011/11/28/2595467/chris-petersen
As long as we are throwing out conspiracy theories...
Maybe UCLA could hire Coach Pete and Bleymeier in a package deal. I believe Gene was considered for the AD job when Guerrero was hired.
"It's hardly a groundbreaking thought, but defeat is when you know you're a fan. It's easy to clap and cheer when a team wins, but when they lose, that's when you know if you care or not." - Craig Robinson
Worst case scenario if petersen were to leave
Who would Boise go after to replace him? Or is there a " head coach in waiting" on staff already?
In light of today's announcement and your SB Nation name...
I would suggest that Dirk Koetter would return to Boise.
"It's hardly a groundbreaking thought, but defeat is when you know you're a fan. It's easy to clap and cheer when a team wins, but when they lose, that's when you know if you care or not." - Craig Robinson
Assumed the Jax is for Jacksonville
And given the firing there today, Koetter will likely be looking for work soon.
"It's hardly a groundbreaking thought, but defeat is when you know you're a fan. It's easy to clap and cheer when a team wins, but when they lose, that's when you know if you care or not." - Craig Robinson
ok I forgot about del rio getting the boot
I dont keep up too much with the jags, thanks for clarifying
That you, Chief?
Found a couple more here:
YNC Broke
MMCS Mountngrown
We’ve got enough to form our own Goat Locker.
Things must be looking up for you UGA fans. You’re certainly in a better mood than when I left you back in September! You shipping out soon?
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they, too, have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexations to the spirit.
Bryan Harsin.
I think they’d call him first.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
Agree 100%. Smart move if one is needed.
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by blue4areason on Nov 29, 2011 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
promote within
I think they would promote Coach Pease or Coach K to HC. Also heard coach Gregorys name thrown in there. I think it will depend on who would leave but I doubt Chris Petersen is going anywhere. He likes the Boise area and he’s a celebrity here, in LA there are already enough celebrities.
by broncoboii1 on Nov 29, 2011 6:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Petersen called Stanford to inquire...
Sounds like he may believe that bigger is better. As a bruin, i don’t see the Petersen deal as likely, but it’s certainly bigger than “fat chance.”
Especially considering he’s called other California programs in the past and… Dan Guerrero is going out there. I’m sure if there was no interest from Petersen, we wouldn’t be wasting our time. A phone call would suffice in such a situation.
Where are you getting your info?
Seriously.
"I don’t need a dictionary, I have an ipad, and an expensive large university education." - hrman7
"They're part pep rally, part freak show..." - Jim Rome, on Bronco Nation
by reflectivity on Nov 29, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
OC Register...
http://ucla.ocregister.com/2011/11/28/58803/58803/
It’s a pretty credible news source.
I’m not saying newspapers can’t be wrong…. especially since that link seems to not work and they’re reporting on rumors as well, but it is a respectable source.
Pete didn't not call Stanford.
He’s said as much in interviews. Stanford’s AD called and asked him his interest level, Pete asked Kustra and Bleymaier how serious they were about expansion and new facilities. They reassured him they would move forward quickly. He told Stanford he had no interest.
This has been talked about before. Stadium expansion is already under way.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
It also comes down to how his assistants are taken care of...
$1.5M is a lot of cash for Boise, so the bump to $3M is not all that enticing, but the biggest change would be how much funding is available for his assistants.
In Boise, the entire coaching staff can live within 10 minutes of the stadium. What is affordable and safe within 10 minutes of the UCLA facilities?
"It's hardly a groundbreaking thought, but defeat is when you know you're a fan. It's easy to clap and cheer when a team wins, but when they lose, that's when you know if you care or not." - Craig Robinson
Affordable and safe within 10 minutes?
Safe, maybe; affordable, no. Alternatively: safe, no; affordable, maybe.
The battle for hierarchy is more intense the lower the class.
Affordable: Westwood, Safe: Bel-Air, Beverly Hills
Hard to find the right combo, but the boosters are backing the pursuit this time. When you got millionaires pulling strings, I don’t think a house is really going to be the deciding factor.
Besides Rick Reilly tweeted he’s hearing rumors of a $20mil/5 year deal. At $4mil/year, it’s certainly looking a lot more affordable
Question is affordable/safe housing for assistants...not necessarily Coach Pete.
"It's hardly a groundbreaking thought, but defeat is when you know you're a fan. It's easy to clap and cheer when a team wins, but when they lose, that's when you know if you care or not." - Craig Robinson
I thought of this too
You wonder if the assistants are salivating at a cool $2 Million… Assuming Coach Pete would want to take them wherever he went and they weren’t looking to become head coach.
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 29, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
the draw
As a ucla fan you have to have hope but at the same time reality is there to ground you. the reality is ucla is a horrible program right now, but that is also and could also be a selling point. What we have seen since Boise State has joined the FCS is competitiveness and getting screwed in the end. They have given you one chance against Oklahoma and you won and began the conversation “why not us!?” since then you have been pitted against utah (now pac12) and tcu (now possibly big east or whatever they want). You guys get screwed by the BCS every year and I think is dumb if one cant recognize that.
Someone who definitely recognizes that would be Coach Petersen. With Moore’s graduation and the Mountain West being a question mark, we can see all around the face of college football changes in power and realignment. UCLA has a “cam newton”-esk QB in Brent Hundley who was just sitting behind Prince this year, UCLA has committed 160mil toward giving the Rose Bowl a “face lift”. Yes they are without a doubt a program in trouble in recent years but what a draw. If there was ever a coach that would be drawn to fixing a program it would be Petersen.
As a bruins fan I hope, as a realist i speculate. remember it wasnt to long ago when you guys were competing for division 2 championships. Much like Jim Harbaugh with USD. if given the right opportunity and in the right situation
coach's child special needs
One of the LA sports guys was peddling a rumor last night that a child of Coach Pete had special medical needs, and the child’s physician had relocated to UCLA. Sounds like blarney to me, but wondering if there was any truth there.
Depends on your definition of "special needs"
Pete’s son had a brain tumor when he was little (Petersen was still at Oregon) but they dealt with it and he’s now cancer-free. I know that they do some yearly checkups to make sure that there’s no new issues…but this is a moot point if you ask me. His son doesn’t require constant care and his family is happy here.
by Drew Roberts on Nov 29, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
This is what I had heard as well. Son's medical issues no longer exist therefore this is not a reason to keep him here
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 29, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
OK.. can somebody PLEASE clear something up
I read many of the posts and such over at the Blue Turf board (scout.com)..
What is the deal with Coach Pete and this Scientology thing they keep talking about???
by East Coast Broncos Fan on Nov 29, 2011 10:36 AM PST reply actions
It's nothing
It came from this 2006 Deadspin article where they made up tidbits about teams and said that Chris Petersen is an avid Scientologist. They also said that Zabranskey was born with a Z shaped birthmark on his bicep.
http://deadspin.com/191503/four-tiny-tidbits-on-the-western-athletic-conference
ahhh
So it was a big joke and the ignorance of the masses(non Boise State fans) want to believe that this is actually true..
(well the Boise State fans use it as a running joke, just didn’t know about this)
Gotcha.. thanks..
by East Coast Broncos Fan on Nov 29, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
"I can be on the lake in 20 mins"
Coach Pete once said. You can’t get to the gas station in 20 mins in La La Land.
Again, a nitwit AD of a basketball school with substandard football facilities in an awful city in a weird state rapidly heading south in every way you can measure it except maybe weather…I just don’t see it. Now if UCLA was located somewhere around Santa Rosa or Napa, maybe.
The biggest incentive for him to move would likely be his family and what kind of deal he can get for the coaches.
Take Sumlin – he is facing severe depression in the post Keenum days ahead. Keenum has been there so long nobody can remember what it was like :)
Take Sumlin – he is facing severe depression in the post Keenum days ahead. Keenum has been there so long nobody can remember what it was like :)
This is funny stuff right here.
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
by Ben Findley on Nov 29, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
UCLA is west LA...
I get your arguments about traffic, state decline, et cetera, but UCLA is located in west Los Angeles, which is miles above most parts of LA. Bel-Air is literally across the street from campus, it’d take me two minutes to get there. Beverly Hills is right here too. One of the most amazing beaches in SoCal, Santa Monica, is like 5 miles away.
LA gets a bad reputation, and deservedly so, but UCLA is underrated by many from other parts of the country.
So what job openings would worry you guys re: Petersen?
Or is he staying at Boise forever?
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
by Ben Findley on Nov 29, 2011 10:51 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I think he'll stay until some sliding scale combination of
1) thinks Boise State program has peaked; and
2) wants a new challenge
becomes greater than the comfort and security he has in Boise, where he could probably stay as long as he wants even if he never makes another BCS bowl.
I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.
by marktgarten on Nov 29, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know if any job takes him away from Boise right now...
…maybe Oregon if it came open.
I believe Pete means it when he says he is happy in Boise. He doesn’t have to do an extraordinary amount of public appearances or endorsement deals. If Boise ever becomes a place that the coach is expected to do things well beyond his role as a football coach then he may start to look elsewhere.
Otherwise, he is already coaching an elite program (Top 15-20 in years before Kellen) and has relative autonomy over his program with very little media or fan scrutiny. (He has also seen the “failures” of Hawkins and Koetter before him and knows he has a good thing in Boise.)
"It's hardly a groundbreaking thought, but defeat is when you know you're a fan. It's easy to clap and cheer when a team wins, but when they lose, that's when you know if you care or not." - Craig Robinson
He has said before that he already has the best job in the country.
I agree, I don’t see him wanting anything else right now.
Stadium Expansion and new football facility is under way. He just got a raise, and he’ll continue to get them. Can’t think of anything outside of money that would be of influence.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
Yep, Coach Pete's quotes go beyond the trite phrases coaches usually spit out....
Some quotes from Coach Pete that should make you more comfortable on his desire to stay. These are a couple of years old, but I doubt his character has changed much in that time frame.
“I look at that situation and say ‘How does that make my life better?’ It’s really that simple. The job is the job. It’s not going to change. In a lot of ways, if it does change, it probably gets worse for me in terms of the things I like about the job or don’t like about the job:”
“What’s important in coaching isn’t the size of the stadium, or the conference, or even the paycheck. None of that is gonna determine my happiness,"
"We’ve got a very good situation here, if the situation … continues to move with the times, this is a great place. As good as Boise State has been in the past, as good as it is right now, we just really feel that there’s a lot more here."
“I kind of chuckle a bit when people talk about other jobs. Many people would give their right arm to be coach at Boise State and that’s why I appreciate where I am.”
"It's hardly a groundbreaking thought, but defeat is when you know you're a fan. It's easy to clap and cheer when a team wins, but when they lose, that's when you know if you care or not." - Craig Robinson
by MKingery on Nov 29, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Timberline High?
When his kids are in high school?
He just doesn’t seem like the kind of guy that is seeking the next bigger thing…
When Hawkins left he was hesitant to take the head coaching job…don’t see him wanting to deal with the media scrutiny that comes at the bigger AQ schools. Especially the LA market.
by ce'sped azul on Nov 29, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
His kids are already in high school
His son plays bball though. His son and Coach Grahams’ son were on the same team the year Graham got canned. Going to those games was probably pretty awkward.
Media is a huge issue in this. He gets a lot of respect here and our media knows not to press him. LA media will be all over it, he’d hate them.
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 29, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Last year.
I was really surprised he didn’t entertain Stanford. He Qb’d at UC Davis, right around the corner from there. Great academics, school mission. I really thought they’d have a play at him. But they called him and he said he had a nice chat with them but didn’t even consider it was an option. Even we don’t get Coach Pete, sometimes.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
"It takes no talent to give great effort." | "We’re not going to play to the outside noise." -- Chris Petersen
"[Kellen] Moore is a walking Staples® button." -- Ivan Maisel
If he didn't take Stanford, he sure wouldn't take Cal
The battle for hierarchy is more intense the lower the class.
Already making more money than you want to spend in Boise and
offered offered less money than it takes to want to live in LA if your a family man.
What?
Is there a rumor that he could replace Bob Stoops in Norman?
I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.
by marktgarten on Nov 29, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
No, that would be Gary Patterson.
sigh
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
by Ben Findley on Nov 29, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Coach Petersen said in 2007
“I’m not interested in that place,”
Why would it be any different now?
Also, scout recruiting rankings for 2012:
UCLA 47th, 7th in Pac-12
Boise 50th, 2nd in MWC, 4th if Big East.
Yeah, I guess that makes us number one next year huh.
(bw) conference realignment…
by ce'sped azul on Nov 29, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Although UCLA had a good recruiting year in 2010...
most of those guys have underperformed. Their last two years have been mediocre recruiting…It would be a sidestep in player talent with a more difficult in-conference schedule.
by ce'sped azul on Nov 29, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah they got P-Diddy's son.
Big Pappa must be rolling in his grave! That’s some East Coast/West Coast Treason right there!
http://blog.sfgate.com/sportsevents/2011/11/29/diddys-son-commits-to-play-football-at-ucla/?tsp=1
What is different now?
BS has a new QB
BS has a new AD (please correct if I’m wrong on this)
Another conference realignment
Tired of going undefeated without a national title shot (potentially?)
Money is over 2 times what Boise is paying (cost living differences don’t scale as fast at high incomes)
Big East not on solid footing
The PAC-12 landed a giant media deal for giant wads of cash, more than SEC teams make
UCLA has more money for assistants than 2007
UCLA is now allowing donors to contribute directly to a new coach’s salary
UCLA has committed to new on campus facilities, a 100 million + Rose Bowl renovation.
UCLA has an offensive line and a 5 star QB with 4 years of eligibility
UCLA has more talent than 2007
Nah, nothing much is different.
You forgot one...
UCLA has Chianti Dan in charge of athletics.
IMHO no f…ing way Petersen leaves boise for westwood as long as the UCLA braintrust continues to keep Guerrero employed as AD.
by ConfofChamps on Nov 30, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
that's a similarity to 2007
not a difference :)
As a Bruin, the smugness of this article irks me
I get that you’re fending off the wolf-pack, so to speak. But the writer seems to deny any possibility of your coach ever leaving. Also the “a quality of life akin to Mordor” comment, while amusing, is simply not true in the least bit (and therefore a little more comical).
I have no doubt that Petersen is very happy in Boise State, but people move. I would start any rumor of an impending visit at threat level “dubious.” After all, Boise State fans were worried about Stanford and that was only a phone call.
I don’t think it’ll happen, but it is a possibility. And there are some decent reasons why UCLA is the most applied-to school in the world: location, weather, campus. All of which are pretty important factors in determining a place to live.
You have to understand from our point of view...
Coach Petersen is probably the most honest and humble coach in all of college football. And he’s also the winningest active coach (%). He has said time and time again that he loves Boise and raising his family here. It just doesn’t make sense to Boise State fans that he would move to Southern Cal.
Two reasons worry me however:
1.Our AD was fired earlier this year and I’m not sure what Pete’s relationship is like with the University President Kustra. As long as there is no bad blood here I don’t see him wanting to leave.
2.Chris Petersen is the Anti-Lane Kiffin and the angels (divine kind as in Los Angeles, not the baseball kind) need to summon up all of the earths forces to balance good with evil and have polar opposites in the same city.
by ce'sped azul on Nov 29, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
In the recent past UCLA’s looked for really clean candidates, though. So it might be a fit.
your points are all very good, though. I was just saying it’s a possibility, and many Boise fans commenting agree with me on this possibility, but the author of the post seems to think no one will snatch Coach Petersen away from you. I was simply saying I think UCLA could potentially work. Never discount anyone… especially a school from your coach’s home state.
You mean Stanford, amirite?
Yuba City to Palo Alto = 151 Miles
Davis to Palo Alto = 81 Miles
These are important places to Coach Pete, I guess those heartstrings to get back to California will finally win out when he accepts that UCLA job. Harumph.
by idaho_techsan on Nov 30, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
Boise State is an elite program...
BSU has been ranked in the top 10 the past few season…and the top 25 the past decade. Why do you assume that BSU is a “farm” team for UCLA coach development? Boise State is not a lowly program that a coach should treat as a stair step to bigger and better jobs, but a destination point. Only one coach has won the Bear Bryant “Coach of the Year” award twice…Boise State’s coach. BSU has played in 2 BCS bowls in the past 5 seasons. How many has UCLA played in? Why would UCLA fans be so arrogant as to suppose that a coach of an elite program would want to leave to for a program that struggled the past few years. UCLA would be a HUGE step backwards for Coach Pete.
A counter-argument
UCLA is 6-6 and yet is theoretically one win from the Rose Bowl. Boise is 11-1 and is banished to the Vegas Bowl vs. the 5th place team from the PAC. The path to a MNC is definitely more realistic here because playing in a major conference, fair or not, has big advantages.
And how is supposing that a coach would leave for UCLA “arrogant”? It’s arrogant of you to look down your nose at our once proud but now struggling program. No one is saying that our program is somehow better than yours, the fact that we are clamoring for CP shows how much respect Bruins have for the program and CP.
honestly?
I respect your opinion, but you’re the one being arrogant, not UCLA fans. We know our program is in shambles right now, but UCLA also has a lot going for it that you are ignoring. We know it’s not likely that Petersen leaves for UCLA, but assuming that UCLA is a “HUGE” step backwards is what’s arrogant.
by bucknellbruin on Nov 30, 2011 5:57 AM PST up reply actions
One win from the Rose…one loss from no bowl. And, only because of USC not being able to play in the Championship game. UCLA will never see a Rose Bowl with USC in their way and a Championship game to boot.
Big East changes our situation next year…does your situation change? No.
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 29, 2011 7:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
It's about comfortability and winning for Pete.
He has both in Boise, they have neither at UCLA.
It isn’t personal, it’s the truth.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
Seconds guesses
We want to hope coach pete stays, but no one can ever second guess what is in his best interests. We all can sit back and hope we’re right about his decisions. Just Dreaming.
Is Guerorro worried about his job so much...
……that he or a member of his staff leaked this trip? If I were Pete I might look at how RH was treated (culminating in “you’re fired but please beat Oregon”) and everything else surrounding this program and say no, again.
Unless Coach wants the challenge…sheesh.
A great leader considers every opportunity if it might positively affect his people, so its no surprise to me that he will take a call or even a visit.
bruin point of view
Guerrero should be worried about his job. A good number of fans and alumni want him gone….
I don’t like Guerrero, but I agree with the way Rick was treated. He said after practice yesterday that the rumor somehow leaked out of the chain of command that he was going to be let go and he called Dan to set up a meeting. Rick also said Guerrero was going to wait until after the championship game to let Neuheisel finish up the year with his team. I dislike our AD, but he treated RN well in the final days if you take Rick at his word.
If Neuheisel’s time here gave the impression that he was treated poorly, it’s simply a matter of pressure to perform in the large market. UCLA needs to not only compete with USC, but be in the top 15 to be considered a good program by most fans and alumni since virtually every other sport is successful here.
We all still love RN and really wish it would have worked better for him (and us).
We all love coach Petersen, but Boise State will be in good hands regardless...
With each passing coach Boise State has only continued to improve…with the departure of each coach fans wondered what now. BSU has thrived through numerous coaching changes the past 15 years:
Coach Nutt
Dirk Koetter
Dan Hawkins
Chris Petersen
If Pete leaves…Harsin would make a fantastic head coach (with solid BSU ties). Future coaching dream team…HC = Bryan Harsin…OC = Kellen Moore (screw the NFL…if Pete leaves make Moore the new OC).
by csf68 on Nov 29, 2011 4:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Weren't all 4 of those guys hired by your recently departed AD?
Dude had the midas touch, wonder if your next AD will have those same skills?
"Football is a violent game played by violent people, so put a smile on your face, murder in your heart and lets go kick these f***kers in the mouth" -Dick Bumpas, TCU Defensive Coordinator
Excellent points.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Nov 29, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
Really????
“Guerrero also said that upgrades to UCLA’s practice facility, where currently there is no 100-yard field, are in the works.”
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/story/_/id/7294551/fired-ucla-bruins-coach-rick-neuheisel-says-school-finance-high-expectations
So do they just practice half field football? What did they do with the other half of the field?
Stay at Boise, Coach!
It's short...
there’s two fields there, but they’re not 100 yards. Literally every square foot of UCLA’s considerably large campus is designated for some particular use. It just happens that Spaulding field is too short to fit a full size football field on.
90 yards actually...
Spaulding field is missing one of the 30 or 40 yard lines, so it’s only 90 yards long, which makes it annoying for the marching band to practice on it. In all fairness, there was really no where else to put the extra ten yards, unless they wanted to take out the walkway.
I would like to start by saying I have an enormous amount of respect for Boise St.
and everything your University has accomplished. I would just like to add, and I think this is actually from a respect, standpoint, (and this really means nothing in our current search, but I always found interesting) your Athletic Director over the past 30 years, until recently, is a UCLA alum and was Assistant Athletic Director at UCLA prior to coming to Boise. we do have a history of creating, as well as finding talent, in all athletic competitions beyond Basketball, we lfootage of our sports and have always fielded competitive teams. that being said, i think CP is beyond a long shot, because of how much he loves Boise. Btw, Ive been rooting for the Broncos since I was 13 years old, as my best friends father is a passionate grad, and so it was really my first College to root for.
Nice points
We have respect for UCLA tradition and tradition is appealing….so our connections. UCLA should be pursuing Bleimeier! And it would make sense to get a 2 for 1 with Pete…but its doubtful
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 29, 2011 7:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Let's compare recruiting
I researched BSU’s recruiting classes from ‘08 to ’11…only found 1 4-star commit, the rest were about half 3-stars and half 2-stars. UCLA normally lands about 5-10 4-stars and also an occasional 5-star every year. This is a compliment to the incredible job done by the BSU football program. This begs the question…what happens when Petersen is given a more fertile recruiting base. Plus, the Pac-12 has not been as deep the last couple of years, and with the graduation of Andrew Luck and USC’s scholarship reductions for the next 3 years, this could be a good time for Petersen to go. As far as turning down Stanford, who in the world would want to follow the job that Harbaugh did, with the stringent academic standards, etc.
Coach Pete doesn't care how many stars are next to a guy's name.
He recruits players based on heart, drive and desire. These are the types of guys that have made our football program so successful at every level.
I don’t think having access to 4 and 5 star players will have any impact on his decision to stay or leave.
"Whatever happened to just winning games."
How many games have all those stars won for UCLA?
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
That's the point
Right now, UCLA is either getting over-rated recruits, or isn’t getting the most out of those recruits. They want that to change. Petersen and his team develop players well, and they want him to do that for UCLA.
I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.
by marktgarten on Nov 30, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
In most cases regarding Scout.com and Rivals the difference between a 2-Star and 5-Star recruit is who is offering a scholarship.
Sure, there are measurables they look at too. Forty times, and all that play a role, but the whole recruit ranking process is loosely governed and I’ve seen unheralded, unranked prospects receive offers from an Alabama, USC or Texas, and become a 5-Star prospect almost overnight.
Coaches like Pete, Saban, Miles and a handful of others, seem to be able to take their recruits and actually coach them into quality football players, regardless of recruiting rank. It seems to me maybe UCLA, and Neuheisel thought simply recruiting highly regarded prospects was all that was needed to win loads of games.
My point, and this is to anyone touts their recruiting classes as a potential lure for Petersen; Is that it would seem obvious that he is not all that concerned with recruiting rankings of his classes. He evaluates talent, along with his staff irrespective of what Scout.com tells him. They recruit from the Netherlands and Canada for goodness sake.
I realize that is the impetus for his popularity; his ability to find and develop talent. So why worry about wooing him with 5-Star prospects? If that was enough, he’d have left four years ago.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
So why worry about wooing him with 5-Star prospects?
Didn’t know that I was worried about that.
I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.
It was in reference to the original post from a Bruin fan/alum/troll?
And the many other comments like it.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
you said it
< it’s simply a matter of pressure to perform in the large market. UCLA needs to not only compete with USC, but be in the top 15 to be considered a good program by most fans and alumni >
Coach Pete does not want outside parties setting his team’s expectations, coach Pete barely tolerates talking to the Boise media week to week, Coach Pete does not want the pressure of a big city, its media, or its fans. If you had ever talked with Coach Pete then you would know that football is #4 on his priority list for students he recruits.
- getting your college education
- being a accountable person to the university
- being a good role model & citizen to the city of Boise
I can see Coach Pete in three different jobs in the future; still coaching at BSU, coach at Oregon, BSU President
based on your list
then Oregon is not a place he would even consider. And based on those 3 things, he is a perfect candidate for UCLA. Now, I’m not saying he leaves; it is unlikely. But if he wants to coach at a school that shares those values, there may be no better place for him than UCLA (other than Boise, obviously).
Now, the pressure aspect of big market media and LA fans may be a different story. However, for everything he’s said, I just want to make one point. He’s a football coach. A very successful one. I refuse to believe he does not relish challenges and competition. If pressure from outside forces – especially at UCLA (we may be passionate but not like a lot of schools – see the SEC and most of the Big 10) keep him from taking a job, then I would question his competitive drive and confidence in himself. And I don’t think in any way that those things are an issue with him.
If he came to UCLA and turned us into a perennial top 15 team as he’s done in Boise, he’d be an absolute hero
by bucknellbruin on Nov 30, 2011 5:31 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
BSU coaching
Coach P is busy making history with the BSU program. He is not finished and no doubt will time his exit carefully. When BSU wins a NC he may move on. Much more to this game than money for this guy, we are lucky.
by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Nov 30, 2011 6:09 AM PST reply actions
How did this turn into a Boise State versus UCLA debate?
It’s merely an issue of known versus unknown to Petersen. And yes, he has shown no signs of shopping around for other offers behind Boise State’s back in the past as he seems to prefer the known.
However, we may hope that he is a lifer like Paterno or Bobby Bowden, but that expectation is too much in my opinion. Remember, everyone has a price. It’s not bad, just a fact. His price may be way too much for anyone to afford, but I do believe there is a price.
by Nick Kroes on Nov 30, 2011 12:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That.
And his repeated statements that he’s happy in Boise, and most other offers probably make his life/job more difficult.
He has the reigns in Boise. And almost no one outside of Boise can probably comprehend how important that might be to him. Or how good of a spot he’s really in.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
this is the key here
And his repeated statements that he’s happy in Boise, and most other offers probably make his life/job more difficult.
I don’t think UCLA fans take any issue with that, because obviously it’s true. I think this turned into a debate because we Bruins clearly have differing opinions than you guys on the quality of the UCLA job and of southern california in general.
The overriding issue is, if Petersen means it when he says he has no interest in leaving, then he’s not leaving. I’ve been posting here – and other Bruins have as well – to defend UCLA, because honestly a lot of us were a bit offended by some of the stuff being said about our school.
by bucknellbruin on Nov 30, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
So this is where all the bruins came from
One bruin’s comment:
Ugh
There’s no stronger proof of the importance of a strong football program, than these Idahoans looking down their noses at UCLA.
I’m sorry we haven’t bene the most welcoming to UCLA fans on this thread and for the insults to their school but when you’ve got people throwing money at your coach you’ve got to do something… I respect UCLA but for Coach Pete it isn’t as good of a place as Boise
But yet...
there’s nothing wrong with UCLA fans on there and on here acting like Petersen is already their coach and the actual hiring process is a mere formality? Seriously?
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"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
It's not acting like he's going to be the coach
in fact, most of us don’t think it’ll happen, but we’re hoping and praying out of respect for the guy and what he’s done here.
how are any of us acting like he's our coach here?
Most of us have said repeatedly that we don’t expect him to come. We’re just defending UCLA because, quite honestly, a lot of your posters here have been incredibly disrespectful towards what is without debate one of the most prestigious schools in the country (football program aside).
If you want to attack people, attack the LA/ESPN media. We don’t like them either
by bucknellbruin on Dec 1, 2011 7:30 AM PST up reply actions
I hate UCLA as much as the next guy who has a degree from USC
But that’s not how I interpret their comments here. I mean, sure, FUCLA and all that, but we can’t get upset when somebody says that their university is a good university and worthy of CP, even if that university is in Westwood and totally isn’t.
I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.
2011 is much different for Peterson
Peterson is in a good place to leave BSU:
1) 2011 was his 10th yr at BSU, so he is vested in the Idaho ST retirement program and will have $4- 600,000 per year retirement at age 65.
2) Guerrero said UCLA booster contributions will allow UCLA to pay $3.5mill a year range for top football coach - so he would be doubling his total pay.,-
3) Mike Leach at WSU will go after same recruits as BSU
4) Right now he could get 2 ex-BSU coaches to be his Coordinators.. Wilcox has been at U Tenn for 2 yrs and Harsin has been at U Texas for 1 year… Peterson could leave BSU staff in place so they could promote Pease to Head Coach…
5) His son’s main Dr is now at UCLA Med Center.
6) UCLA boosters will find him a sweet deal on a house close to UCLA.
But yet...
1) Boise State is rapidly becoming an elite, brand-name program in the here and now. UCLA has devolved into a mediocre program that lives off the past, like Notre Dame.
2) Chianti Dan is still in charge. Your athletic department is beyond dysfunctional. Your players found out about Rick Neuheisel’s firing by watching ESPN. Neuheisel himself was basically told “Beat Oregon, then GTFO.” Why would any coach worth their salt want to go to that toxic environment?
3) Meanwhile, Boise State’s athletic department has been pretty professional and business-like compared to most schools.
4) Coach Pete has given a lot of game experience to the backups this year to aid in their development as future starters. If he was going to leave, why would he be so concerned with the current backups’ development?
5) Boise State is committed to upgrading Bronco Stadium and expanding the seating to an acceptable size that may entice big-name programs to come to Boise. This includes new team facilities.
6) Coach Pete turned down Stanford and Florida last year. What makes you think UCLA is a better job?
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
What UCLA fans don't get
I’ve lived in So Cal most of my life and have been a long time (40 plus years ) Bruin fan/ That being said I’ve be a BSU fan for over 10 years. I now live in Idaho, and the quality of life here is better than So Cal. Ok I do miss the beach, and Trader Joes, and in & Out.
What matters to coach Pete is not 4 or 5 star players bit if they are OKG’s = Our Kind of Guys. Guys who put team first, and play with a chip on their shoulders. Sorry Bruins I don’t see many of them on your team.
by skipit on Dec 1, 2011 10:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
YOU DOWN WITH OKG'S?
(Every last Coach Pete!)
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