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Boise State basketball versus Long Beach State: Five things you should know

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The Boise State basketball team gets its first real test of the season (no offense, Utah) with a trip to Long Beach State tonight to face a 49ers squad that has already pulled one of the biggest upsets of the college basketball season. Expect to learn more about the Bronco basketball team tonight than you learned against Colorado Christian.

Tip-off is at 8:00 p.m. MT, and you can listen live on the radio at 670 KBOI. To get you jazzed about the game, here is a preview of what to know about Long Beach State and the Broncos.

1. Long Beach State defeated No. 9 Pittsburgh last week to end Pitt's 58-game non-conference home winning streak. The 49ers followed up that win with an overtime loss at San Diego State, one of the Mountain West's best teams. So the lesson here is that LBSU is pretty good at the basketball.

2. Boise State started last season 6-0 before a home loss to ... Long Beach State. Creepy.

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3. Long Beach State point guard Casper Ware ranks sixth in the country in scoring, averaging 24.7 points per game. He is one of four senior starters and one of three 1,000-point career scorers on the 49ers team. Embarrassment of riches much?

4. The Broncos hit the road for the first time tonight, and they do so with some pretty impressive national statistical rankings. BSU is third in the country in scoring average at 92 points per game and 11th in the country in field goal percentage, shooting 52.9 percent. The Broncos aren't too shabby from three-point land, either. Their 44 percent shooting from beyond the arc is good for No. 22 in the country. Playing Cal State Northridges will do that to you.

5. Long Beach State plays its basketball in the Big West Conference, which is one of the potential landing spots for Boise State's Olympic sports should the football team get its rear in gear and join the Big East already. 

Bonus thing: Long Beach State plays in the Walter Pyramid, which is an actual pyramid.

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What are you expecting to see from the Boise State basketball team tonight? Do you think the Broncos can pull the upset? Can they keep it close? Share your thoughts and predictions in the comments.

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I'd like to see them pull off the win on the road.

I heard elsewhere that LBSU is a pretty good pick to make the NCAA tourney this season, so knocking them off may go a long way.

The Broncos have looked pretty good so far, let’s see how they can perform against some competition with a heartbeat.

"But Boise State is good. Really good. And not just the quarterback, their defense is good. And they deserve to be where they are..." - Vince Dooley, former Georgia Coach and AD

by Mikrino on Nov 22, 2011 3:11 PM PST reply actions  

Fortunately LBSU is a lot like us

They’re quick and like to move the ball fast and let up on defense. I don’t like our chances against a strong defense but going bucket for bucket against LBSU looks possible.

It’d be a heck of an upset! LBSU could lose two straight games to future WCC conference mates

by BSUbluNorange on Nov 22, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

BSU is much more defensively minded than they were in the Graham era.
Fortunately LBSU is a lot like us. They’re quick and like to move the ball fast and let up on defense. I don’t like our chances against a strong defense but going bucket for bucket against LBSU looks possible.

Rice certainly has a different defensive philosophy than Graham and he is not willing to trade baskets and hope to outscore opponents. From what I have seen of this year’s team, they put great defensive pressure on the ball and do a decent job of defending the high pick-and-roll. I have been most impressed by their help defense and rotation to cut off penetration.

I agree that a tough defensive team could give the Broncos fits. The offense relies heavily on outside shooting and they haven’t shown that they can go to the inside game if their shooting begins to let them down. Overall lack of size is a defense and offensive concern on the interior.

"It's hardly a groundbreaking thought, but defeat is when you know you're a fan. It's easy to clap and cheer when a team wins, but when they lose, that's when you know if you care or not." - Craig Robinson

by MKingery on Nov 22, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm keeping my expectations in check..

This is the most talented Bronco team I’ve ever seen, but they are very young. Keeping it close and competitive will give us a glimpse of how good they can be. Winning it might be the fix I’m looking for if the football team ends up in Vegas again..

by kburnem on Nov 22, 2011 3:16 PM PST reply actions  

Coach Rice has this team believing.

This will be a challenge to see if a team this young can hang with so many seniors. I wish them the best, but I will not be putting any money on this one. Go get em Broncos!

"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee

by blue4areason on Nov 22, 2011 3:19 PM PST reply actions  

Will any games be televised this year?

What kind of MWC TV basketball schedule is there?

by HSridge on Nov 22, 2011 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

Basketball is where The MTN pays off...

Every conference games is televised on The Mtn, CBS Sports Network or Versus. The Iowa game is on the Big Ten Network and I am not sure if the LSU game is televised.

"It's hardly a groundbreaking thought, but defeat is when you know you're a fan. It's easy to clap and cheer when a team wins, but when they lose, that's when you know if you care or not." - Craig Robinson

by MKingery on Nov 22, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

As soon as I posted this, they came to life.

Cut the lead from 18 to 9 going into halftime. Way to go, Broncos!

by Spyder Mayhem on Nov 22, 2011 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

33-24 at half...

Broncos haven’t been doing well so far, they did have a nice comeback at the end of the half though.

I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.

by BSU Guru on Nov 22, 2011 7:54 PM PST reply actions  

shooting 24%

at half, i think i’ll take being down 9 to a team like this. Means, imo, as long as we play our game in the 2nd, we have a shot. just can’t be turning the ball over and have to get some and1s down low.

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 22, 2011 8:03 PM PST reply actions  

just now?

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 22, 2011 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

ugh,

shooting terribly!

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 22, 2011 8:23 PM PST reply actions  

Crazy shooting.

Any team that shoots this many 3’s will lose for sure. Especially against Beach State. What the heck is the Boise players thinking. Horrible shooting so far. Too many jumpers.

'Trust me, i can protect myself. I'm a Boise State Broncos Football fan.'

by ItIsTime on Nov 22, 2011 8:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

has nothing to do with #

has to do with missing all the open ones.. if we made just half the open ones, we’re probably down 3, if not winning.

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 22, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Really could use a guy like Lashard Anderson.

Someone who could drive and get to the hoop. Marks is the only guy that can effectively.

by summitkopp on Nov 22, 2011 8:38 PM PST reply actions  

oh well..

just not our night :/? LBSU seems pretty good, but, we’re just flat out terrible tonight.

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 22, 2011 8:48 PM PST reply actions  

72-62 final...

That sucks. We played pretty good defense but had awful shooting most of the night. It was good to see that they refused to give up even though they were down by 25. This team is going to be pretty good this year and in the years to come.

I am the BSU Guru. I know everything and anything about BSU, just ask me. Although I may need a minute…and an internet connection.

by BSU Guru on Nov 22, 2011 9:04 PM PST reply actions  

Trouble penetrating.

Thanks IDCWBY for the tv tip.
Thanks to Kevan for making space for BB and getting us started.

If you can’t figure out how to penetrate, you will shoot jumpers.
As you get behind just shooting jumpers, you will shoot more 3’s.
Lowest percentage shot of all.

Rice’s problem in the long run is not going to be shooting, but a little guy who can get to the hoop and a big guy who can consistently dominate the post areas. Just consistently one of each would really make a difference.

by dgslc on Nov 22, 2011 9:05 PM PST reply actions  

i don't think we shot too many 3s..

like some might say. most of them were open, they just weren’t falling. and it’s not like 2s were working either.. shot just about the same % from there too.

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 22, 2011 9:05 PM PST reply actions  

Stats

I guess a good look at the stats would tell the tale.
Going to hop on another site.

by dgslc on Nov 22, 2011 9:07 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

Out of 54 field goal (oops, let’s change the terminology, not much liking that word these days) attempts…ur… rather out of 54 overall shots exactly half were three pointers (27)…half of our shots being three pointers seems to be a lot. I’m guessing the Rice would not prefer to see that.

by dgslc on Nov 22, 2011 9:15 PM PST reply actions  

yet,

9-27 from 2 is oh so much better?

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 22, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

basically,

it was just not a good night shooting period. I personally didn’t mind all the 3s, because down low was only working when they were calling fouls, when they stopped, we weren’t hitting anything. So, 27s? naw, I didn’t mind it.

last game 44%(29-66) of our shots were 3s.. making 13 instead of 8 certainly helps make it “acceptable”. like I said, we just simply missed too many open ones.. if we made 12-27 and won by 2 would we be complaining about all the 3s?

"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X

by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 22, 2011 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Well,

it’s not so much the 3’s, but the notion that we are not strong enough in other vital areas. We fall back to too many 3’s when we can’t post or penetrate. Three pointers are lower percentage shots on the whole.

This game we shot about thirty % overall and thirty % from the three line!

 

by dgslc on Nov 22, 2011 9:53 PM PST reply actions  

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