TCU upsets Boise State in a classic, 36-35; Bronco home winning streak, BCS bid come to an end
The TCU Horned Frogs did what no team has done in over a decade - beat Boise State on its home field. A 39-yard field goal attempt by Dan Goodale went wide right at the end of regulation, and the Horned Frogs - behind a 5-TD performance by Casey Pachall, including two key two-point conversions - pulled the upset.
Misery loves company in the comments. A full game recap will be available in a bit.
Well, that was something.
Just like it did last year, Boise State's perfect record and, in many respects, its season came down to a kick. And same song, second verse, Dan Goodale's 39-yarder went wide. Credit TCU for playing an outstanding game and making the most of its opportunities. If you wanted a blueprint for beating the Broncos, that was it - win the turnover battle, hit the deep ball when it's there, catch some lucky breaks, and hope you score enough to hold on. From an outsider's view, this was one entertaining football game. From a Boise State fan's view, this was heartbreaking. Last year was sad because the best team in school history missed out on a chance at a historic BCS game. This year is a different kind of sad, knowing that Kellen Moore won't go out the way he deserves.
There will be time to discuss the future in much more detail next week (possibly the Vegas, Poinsettia, or Independence Bowls), but for now ... how about that game? There was wall-to-wall drama and big plays and momentum swings, and just when the Broncos looked like they had it won, everything changed.
No doubt, everyone will be talking about two woulda-coulda-shoulda plays late in the fourth quarter.
- Drew Wright's fumble
- Dan Goodale's missed field goal
I'll tow the company line and say that no single player loses a game for his team. I might not agree with that right now, but I'll come around. The Broncos played bad enough pass defense and made enough other mistakes that there are plenty of places to point fingers, if that's what you're into.
Really, though, this isn't the type of game that deserves too much finger pointing. TCU is a great team and only a handful of points from being an undefeated, Top Ten squad just like the Broncos. We witnessed a classic college football game, the type that have gone Boise State's way for the past decade. The outcome sucks. The script is cruel. And sometimes that's just part of being a college football fan.
Big plays from the TCU - Boise State game
- The Drew Wright fumble and the Dan Goodale missed field goal, obviously
- Tyrone Crawford's 32-yard fumble return for a TD
- Casey Pachall long TD toss, pick 'em (75 yards, 74 yards, 69 yards)
- TCU pass interference penalty to keep the Boise State drive alive on fourth down. Real or not?
- D.J. Harper 17-yard TD run
- Lee Hightower interception of Casey Pachall
- TCU recovering its own fumble, pick 'em
Stats
Passing
Kellen Moore = 28-for-28, 320 yards, 2 TDs
Casey Pachall = 24-for-37, 473 yards, 5 TDs, INT
Rushing
D.J. Harper = 24 carries, 125 yards, 2 TDs
TCU, team = 26 carries, 33 yards
Receiving
Matt Miller = 9 catches, 73 yards, TD
Josh Boyce = 5 catches, 163 yards, 3 TDs
Brandon Carter = 4 catches, 120 yards, 2 TDs
Your turn
What do you think was the difference in the game? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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Feel bad for the Broncos, but....
this loss is 100% coach K’s fault. Pachall was not blitzed with any authority til the second half of the game. Putting the loss on a kicker is bull(bw). It should have NEVER came down to him in the first place. Thanks coach.
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by blue4areason on Nov 12, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry but a logic check is due here.
Blaming the kicker is no les bull(bw) than blaming a coach who didnt play in the game. Maybe he was counting on our front four to generate some pressure on their own. If we can give a kicker credit for winning a game with a kick, we sure as hell can blame him for a loss. I could argue the kicker was lucky for the team getting him into such good field position for a cake-a$$ field goal.
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by Xavier Malawi on Nov 13, 2011 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
I am sorry you all lost. I watched the FG attempt and was hoping it would go in.
I guess it is true that any team can loose. I am sorry you all lost.
by DougMugsDotCom on Nov 13, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
btw, I am a Dawg fan first and BSU fan second.
I hope you all do great next year. It is a shame that this blemish is now on this years record.
by DougMugsDotCom on Nov 13, 2011 7:53 AM PST up reply actions
Thank you, Doug.
Appreciate your sympathies, and know that you know just how gut-wrenching this feels. I’m excited for your team to keep on beating up on everybody. Tough night, but we’ll move on and improve, just like you guys did. Thanks for your support.
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by boiseblues on Nov 13, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You can’t blame the kicker for this anymore than you could for the Nevada game last year. The ENTIRE TEAM played like crap for most of the game.
The D was porous and the O put the ball on the ground too much. Kicker missed two kicks as well. The team never should have been in the position for having to hope for a kick to pull it out but they did because the TEAM played bad. Not just the kicker.
So yeah sucks that BSU lost on the Blue and worse yet, may not even win the MWC now. But those are the breaks.
by Kurgan the Lurker on Nov 12, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutely not true
This was an extremely well played game. The defense was outstanding and the offense did (almost) everything it needed to do. The problem was the decimation of the defensive backs, Gavin and Taylor both gone, they gave up big plays and that was the game. The TEAM played fine, and I’d be the first to say otherwise. The two fumbles were the difference, especially the last one, but again, you’re down to the third-team player when it happens. Very unfortunate, but these were two good teams and the best one (the one who could field enough uninjured players) won.
If you subscribe to the theory the blame goes to the kicker
THEN THE BLAME IS ON COACH PETE. I do not feel this way but coach pete has flat out said they were caught with their pants down in the kicking game. It was a recruiting error. I’ll give coach pete, and subsequently Dan a pass on this one
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 12, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
defensive backs
I feel are the most to blame. Getting torched for three deep scores and it could have been four had Waymon James not tripped on a 33 yard reception.
by Jeremy Mauss on Nov 12, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
I hate people who blame kickers
seriously. I will find you.
by Bring the HAMMER! on Nov 12, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
Why
Of coarse the kicker is going to get blame. He’s not good, period.
Maybe Not
But, like Kellen said, they weren’t very good in a lot of areas today.
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
Why
Have we not burned van ginkles red shirt, it’s obvious that Goodale can’t handle it
If you want to use the same logic
Would it be obvious a Brotzman couldn’t have handled it? No. He was seasoned and a reliable kicker, and the same outcome occurred.
Use the same logic and apply it to the team, it’s obvious they couldn’t handle it. Missed tackles, fumbles, etc.
Come on. We kicked to win and we lost. There is no data to suggest Van Ginkle would have made the kick. Nice hindsight.
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
so,
basically sounds like, why are we even kicking field goals anymore? i’m down for going for it every time, and going for 2, and heck, lets throw in onside kicks too.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
No, what it sounds like is...
We need to make a kick when it counts.
You kick in those situations. You don’t pass up straight on 37 yard kicks to throw on 4th down.
We need to make kicks, we didn’t. That’s not coaching.
Do you think Brotzman shouldn’t have been in on the last kick against Nevada? Should we have thrown or run on 4th down?
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
BUT
there was 20 seconds left when we decided to just fall on the ball in the middle. Why not try for a first? there’s still plays to be run. don’t waste that shit.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Brotzman
Is a completely different player when has Goodale ever looked like he was nearly the kicker Brotzman was? Brotzman made many clutch kicks for us before he missed that kick. And I didn’t say I know van ginkle would have made the kick but he is a highly touted freshman kicker that probably should be playing since we have a kicker who gets a standing o every time he actually makes an extra point.
That's My Point
It can happen either way – but, kicking the ball is the right decision.
Try another play and what might happen…interception, fumble, KM trips and loses 5 yards instead of 1…
Second guessing is worthless guys.
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
I would think
Km has built more trust than a kicker that has hit on 80% on extra points and has a long of 32 but I guess I’m wrong my bad. Your right kellen probably would have just thrown an interception like he always does in clutch time (sarcasm)
Right decision?
Ya if you have a decent kicker.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you
Thats all I’m saying. there are other options that would have had a much higher percentage. I’m not saying van ginkle would have hit it or that km would have thrown a td pass I’m just saying there was more of a chance of that than going with A guy who misses 20% of the time on extra points. When in trouble trust in Moore that’s my motto.
highly touted?
we dont use that phrase in Boise. Jake heaps at BYU was highly touted. He flopped. You never know. And even the best miss them (Alabama missed 4 and brotz missed 2!) In basketball if a player misses freethrows then goes to the line for a game winning free throw and misses you guna throw them under the bus?!
by Bring the HAMMER! on Nov 12, 2011 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
What your saying
Makes no sense, comparing missing free throws to burning a freshmans redshirt when we have a kicker who has done nothing to show he will be good.
Kyle was not reliable in big games in big moments. Don't kid yourselves.
Everyone got nervous when Brotz was lining up for an important field goal.
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by Xavier Malawi on Nov 13, 2011 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
Although I have to say
Congrats to the Horned Frogs on a game well played.
Agreed - Congrats to the Horned Frogs
Win like winners, lose like winners. Our team knows how to do that, let’s see if the fan base does.
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
They are now
TCU may come in at something like15th – and they deserve. I expect us to drop to 11-12, unfortunately.
Gang, it wasn’t about the kicker, it was about injuries – and credit TCU for doing exactly what they needed to do to take advantage and win the game. The defensive secondary is riddled at the same time as we lost our best pass rusher. It was a deadly combo.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
No, you are wrong. It is about the kicker, and you know it.
Not even arguable. Our secondary was completely dilapidated, and green, agreed. That said, Our kicker had a chance to win it, and failed. Simple truth, get with the program. Our kicking game sucks, and has for some time. The rest of the team is doing the best with what they have.
Our kicker wouldn't have been in that position...
if the secondary hadn’t given up THREE 60+ yard Touchdowns. I’m not one for blaming anyone, but definitely don’t put it on the kicker when all of us knew what we could expect from him coming into this game.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
No doubt.
Our secondary truly gave it up, but look at who was playing back there, we had 2nd stringers, and safeties at the cornerback position. They did their best, but obviously it wasn’t enough. Thats why this game is on the shoulders of the play callers, and the kickers. They failed, and honestly it didn’t surprise me.
if you wanna talk about dilapidated secondaries...
… come to Fort Worth. We’ve been reeling all season, waiting for our very young and very porous secondary to man up and quit acting like mi endzone es su endzone.
http://www.frogsowar.com
by Purple Wimple on Nov 12, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Great win....
We are reasoning out our lose here but don’t think that we don’t know that TCU was a hair better today!
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
by TooMuchYoung on Nov 12, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
Coach's Poll had TCU #24
Of course, all the media outlets only show their poll, the AP. Frogs lost at home to a now awful SMU team which killed our chances of being ranked again until this past week. BYU win on national tv helped.
Man, I cannot believe the number of fans that hate on y’all! That is the ultimate respect for a phenomenal coach and winningest QB! This has become a great, balanced rivalry.
by HornedFrog1992 on Nov 13, 2011 5:44 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree. And thanks for your input.
The TCU/BSU rivalry is shaping up to be spectacular if it would only continue. And because SMU/TCU have a much more vitriolic rivalry (much like the Idaho/BSU rivalry) those games are bound to be good most of the time no matter how good or bad one team is.
And you’re right, the number of haters out there is a testament to how far we’ve come in such a short time.We’ve still got a ways to go to be where we’d like to be ultimately, but that comes with time. Hopefully you guys moving to the Big 12 helps out with the respect your team deserves as well. Good luck to your Horned Frogs. And great win!
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"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 13, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
If only we had LSU's kicker...
Better to have play a mid-level schedule and potentially be the best team in the nation, than to play and lose on a hard schedule and remove all doubt.
by Mike Olsen on Nov 12, 2011 4:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Congrats, Horned Frogs...
but DAMN! THIS SUCKS!
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"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Nov 12, 2011 4:15 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Sup!
What makes this worse is that there’s no Blake Griffin dunkfests on the horizon to console myself with!
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"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
indeed
oh well, if it means the Miami Heat won’t win a championship this year, I’ll deal with it.
In the meantime, there’s always college basketball.
And the Washington Huskies are very sad.
I actually don't hate the Heat.
I have a lot of respect for their team, and they’re always fun to watch.
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"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Until now. :(
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"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
it has to be asked
why did Pete play for the field goal and not go for the TD?? Let Kellen be Kellen!
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Nov 12, 2011 4:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I have no idea.
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
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You don't understand...
how shaky Goodale is. I don’t care whether we’re #5 or #105, you don’t leave a game up to him.
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then this team is not complete
they’ve got some roles to fill in the coming years before they can reach a BCS bowl game again.
We actually have a really good redshirt kicker...
Van Ginkel.
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Why Second-Guess our Coach?
He coached the game, 96% of the time the guy wins…lose like winners people. Come on…
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
thank you K Wils.
Bronco Fans gettin unrealistic expectations. Welcome to College football.
by Bring the HAMMER! on Nov 12, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
mostly, I'm curious
I trust Coach Pete completely… just don’t really understand that one
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Nov 12, 2011 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
+1
We lost. Don’t gripe about it like some whiney AQ team fan. TCU took care of business and we didn’t. That’s how it goes.
Elway is in, Zimm is in, Little is FINALLY in but don't forget: Randy Gradishar, Steve Atwater & Terrel Davis
by BlueNOrangeNIdaho on Nov 12, 2011 8:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Good question
Why we abandoned the underneath passing game with a minute left and 2 timeouts is a mystery to me. 8-10 yards at a time all season and instead we go for 15-20 on 3 straight plays. With 14 secs left and one time out, instead of a sideline look and then a field goal, we have Kellen run the ball. A normal team might have done that, but our kicking game does not support it. Hmmm….
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
by HSridge on Nov 12, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
We are not a normal team and we all know it. Our kicking game is non existent. I was at the game and watched a fan kick a field goal for $1,000 during a commercial break. The kick would have definitely been good from 39. It was right down the middle.
"I do not like Nevada" - Myself
Ugh...
Why did we waste a down centering the ball, we had a bw time-out…I don’t mean to question Petersen, but wtf?
by Cougarflounder on Nov 12, 2011 4:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I guess we can start having fun watching Kellen's last year now
Rather than worrying about the BCS standings. Good job TCU, Casey was really good tonight.
This frog fan hopes there are more TCU-BSU matchups in the near future.
these have been outrageous, all of them. More, more!
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by Purple Wimple on Nov 12, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
BCS Bowl Game
So with one loss and a top 12 ranking, can we still make a bowl game?
Not unless TCU loses
And Houston. We have to be conference champions, at least according to the rules.
No, we don't HAVE to be conference champions to get a BCS bowl...
But a few more teams (Houston included but not TCU) need to lose.
The BCS selection process for an auto bis says that a conference champ of a non-AQ can get an auto bid if they are a conference champ in the top 12 OR a conference champ in the top 16 and ranked ahead of an AQ conference champ . Since we’re not a conference champ, we don’t fall into that category.
We could still fall into the at-large eligibility category. That states that if the 10 slots are not filled for all the BCS games, then any team is eligible for a BCS bowl provided that they are bowl eligible and A) have won at least 9 games and B) are in the top 14 of the final BCS standings.
Already, we TECHNICALLY qualify for a BCS bowl under those conditions but there are a few teams ahead of us who will steal a slot before us if they don’t lose.
LSU, Alabama and Arkansas are all moot. It doesn’t matter if they win or lose another game, they’ll likely still be ranked ahead of us but the BCS can only take two of them anyway.
However, a 2-loss Oklahoma (think OSU beating OU) would probably fall behind us. Another loss from either Oregon or most likely Stanford would drop them behind us as well.
If Houston takes a loss (and their toughest games are still ahead against SMU, Tulsa and a conference championship game against Southern Miss) then they’ll definitely drop behind us since they’re already neck and neck with us.
VaTech and Clemson are both ranked ahead of us. But one of them WILL lose when they meet in the ACC championship game. If Clemson could take a loss to South Carolina before that, that would also help and in my opinion is very likely. (Once again, S. Carolina is a moot point since only 2 SEC teams can go to BCS bowls).
It’s a lot of “what if” scenarios but it’s by no means outside of the realm of possibility and quite frankly, our chances of still making a BCS bowl are still better than our chances of making a BCS title game ever were.
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"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 13, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
But they were their conference champs. TCU is 1st in the MWC right now. If they finish out with no loses then we don’t even win our conference. The chance of getting an at large bid to a BCS bowl (assuming we are even still in the Top 12 after tomorrow) is very unlikely at that point.
by Kurgan the Lurker on Nov 12, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
That is why we go to the Big East
We won’t have to always be perfect.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
The question has to be asked...
Why put the game in the hands of an unproven kicker? I was a strong advocate for starting Van Ginkel from day one; he has a family pedigree for this stuff! Beyond that, I feel that the coaches should had let Moore win the game- he’s proven himself in clutch situations. Hats off to the Horn Frogs though, they wanted it more and they proved it on the field. Anywho, we still have a chance of going to a BCS bowl game if Tulsa upsets Houston, which I feel they will. Too bad, what could have been….(I don’t believe we have to be conference champions).
Looks like you have to be a champion, per rule #3
3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:
A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.
Penn State fans, you stupid m*****f*****s!
Why are you showing any support for a friggin’ pedophile!!?!?!?!!!!
Paterno wasn't the one that was raping the kids.
My grandfather was a Packers fan, my father is a Vikings fan, I am a Lions fan, and there is no way in hell I am raising a Bears fan.
Oh, and I hate the Philadelphia Eagles (but like the Phillies)
Yeah, he only looked the other way. Thats not a crime!
Come on , Its not like if I new about a kid being raped in my facility, by an assistant couch of mine, I should be responsible for calling the cops or anything? Whats wrong with you people?
Drew wright
I blame the lose completely on drew wright, all you have to do is cover up the ball and that game is over
QEB
Just knock the ball down. Interception does no good. I think there’s several people that can be blamed in the last few minutes.
Exactly - all he had to do was make the tackle or...
hit the ball. Instead he tried for a pick. But as the boss says, one play does not lose it. We fumble in the red zone (again) in the first half and the Frogs went the other way. It happened again on the winning drive.
Post game Peteresen said it was turnovers (ours and not grabbing more of their fumbles), weak secondary and weak pass rush.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
bsublu4life
You are an idiot! Drew was running hard and just had picked up another first down after coming in cold. He has been clutch all year, one fumble on their 26? How about a defense to make one stop? or not allow deep post routes to go for 6 all day long? If you watch the game you know drew is a hell of a runner who fumbled for the first time ever, no where near his fault, this was a team effort of not coming to play… if you remember mitch fumbled in the red zone earlier as well….
No need
For name calling, that was right after I got home after the game in a later post I said I wouldnt put all the blame on wright. But either way you gotta hold on to the ball in that situation. No excuse for fumbling when you are just tryin to run out the clock.
Guess we can head to the big east next year for only $5 Mil
Thats savings of $16 Mil. Ugh, this sucks….
by BSUbluNorange on Nov 12, 2011 4:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Screw the Big East.
Let’s stay put and make the MWC the AQ conference. They can suck a fart for all I care.
We are not tested enough in the Mountain West...
and this game proves it. Once again we falter late in the year… too accustomed to the starters coming out early in blowouts against bad teams. We need a big SOS upgrade.
Plus the increased money and better recruiting in the Big East would be invaluable, geography be damned.
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by 82-0 on Nov 12, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's a damn sight better than UNLV, Colorado State, New Mexico, et al.
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Not at the top, but the teams at the bottom are leagues better than the bottom teams of the MWC.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Nov 12, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
Great point...
I’ve been saying the same thing. The Big East doesnt have top ranked teams, but top to bottom there are no slouches (UNLV, etc…). These close games are starting to bite us in the BW, because are guys are coming out early.
the MWC will never become a AQ no one is good besides bsu and we lost so no hope for staying!
by boise00state on Nov 12, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutely right - MWC is done
Utah, BYU, TCU leaving killed it.
Dang the Frogs have got to feel great right now – and they should. they peaked, got most of the injured starters back and made it happen. We lost too many starters and as we all feared, it came down to a FG.
When is the last time we won a game based on a FG anyway? Brotz in the Nevada game on the Blue in 2006?
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
@freshbreff
Are you serious man. If nothing else this game proved exactly WHY we need to go to the Big East. The MWC WILL NEVER BE AN AQ CONFERENCE WITH 40% of it’s teams producing overall losing records. That’s right the MWC has 4 teams that in their entire history have lost more games than they have won. The proposed Big East only has 2 such teams out of 12 that barely miss the .500 mark (UConn and SMU). As such we can lose to a team that comes out of the woodwork to play a heck of a game and we lose a close one and our season is done as in the MWC. The C-USA merger won’t help any either, it will be worse with 10 of the 22 teams having overall losing records (45% of the conference). The BCS teams have it figured out. They can lose to the likes of Duke, Minnesota, etc. and still have more credibility and still get into a big money bowl game. Even the bottom feeders in the BCS Conferences have it better than we do. They can put up token effort as a football team each season with the occasional great season and still make millions for their schools to boot. Bottom line get us out of this smelly pile of poop conference with NO CREDIBILITY AND NO MONEY FOR THE SCHOOL/PROGRAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Furthermore
Consider that despite this year’s valiant effort to pull off an upset against the Broncos on the blue, TCU GETS NOTHING BESIDES SOME CRAPPY MWC CONFERENCE TROPHY!!!!!!!!!!! Because they lost 2 other games they will go to a mickey mouse bowl just like we will. On the other hand last year Virginia Tech proved that they could have 2 losses (including one to a 6-5 FCS opponent) and still end up in the Orange Bowl. The bottom line we need out.
by Jesterrace on Nov 12, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess my big problem is not with The Big East necessarily...
… it’s with the whole system in general. I will never buy into the idea that any Div IA team who’s a conference champion should be shunned the opportunity to play for the national title, undefeated or not. They’re all playing the same game, at the same level, and I’ve always liked standing outside the fence.
I can’t stand elitism. I can’t stand people throwing up hypotheticals (“if BSU played in ________, or against _________…”) We’ll never know, because those games will never be played.
I guess that’s my real stance.
I still think the game could have been hinged on a terrible no-call.
The helmet-to-helmet blow on Harper was pretty bad. Only put him out of the game, that’s all. I thought the NCAA was “cracking down” on hits like that. Don’t they want to “protect the player”?
Petersen
Maybe Petersens not as smart as everyone thinks. First let kellen throw the ball. We dont need Drew Wright running it in crunch time. Second, never rely on a kicker.
I think we should vote you off the island
Pete is great. He is the winningest coach in the history of college football. I think we’ll cut him some slack when he has lost three games in the last three years by a combined 5 points
by Kazzy on Nov 12, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree to a point,
But I don’t understand a lot of the moves Petersen made. I was at the game so I didn’t hear why Doug Martin didn’t play but he was suited up on the sideline like he was good to go. How did it go from “he could have went back into the unlv game” to not coming in for one play in a battle like the game against tcu my blame goes 50% Petersen, 25% DB’s, 15% drew wright and 10% Goodale. Petersen is awesome but he’s definitely not perfect, and I bet if he could go back he would change alot of the things he did in this game. With that said I will still root whole heartedly for bsu this year in the gummy worms pos bowl or whatever bowl we play in.
Doug couldn't play cause he was hurt
And Petersen said that he kicked because he thought that Goodale would make it. I think that’s a good call. He hits that field goal and we are singing his praises. That’s why I think he’s a great coach, he is confident in his team, even when they don’t appear to deserve it.
really?
would you believe your daughter was as smart as you thought if she kept going back to her battering law breaking boyfriend?
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
I don't have a daughter
And this is the first time Goodale’s lost a game for us. So next time I’ll agree with you.
but it's not the first
time he’s missed a kick.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe you missed my point but def not the first time he's missed a kick as we all know...or maybe we dont.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
No I didn't miss your point
OBNUG is great for humor, maybe you missed my attempts at humor.
It's alright
It’s pretty subtle most of the time. Except when I claimed (above) that I was handsome. That was an overt attempt at humor
I'm sure your much better looking then your mirror tells you!
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
My mirror does not talk
But that one in Snow White does, maybe I can get my hands on that one…
Dude, just stop trolling.
Go back to the blog for whatever SEC team you really root for.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Not an sec fan
Just an objective Boise State fan. You might try it sometime.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Different SEC
Securities and Exchange Commission, I mean seriously, who isn’t a fan of that SEC?
you
should try it some time…a real conference; what a novelty…nevertheless, what do you have to lose? after all, you’re boise ‘we can win the hugest game of our collective lives once per year’ state. ’nuff said. good luck in the meineke!
This
Is the first chance he had and it wasn’t even close, and Doug Martin didn’t seem to hurt on the sideline he was constantly jumping around and talking to coach pete trying to get in the game
Interestingly Enough
He was in the game on that 4th down penalty call
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Understand your logic, as well as your loyalty.
That said coach Pete made a few bad decisions this game. Thats really all I have to say about that, I am not a homer, and I only deal in truth. He may be the best coach that ever was, or ever will be, but this game he made some bad decisions, and BSU lost. It is what it is, that is all.
What bad decision ohter than setting up for the field goal at the end...
This is an honest question.
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
by TooMuchYoung on Nov 12, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Actually
I thought he stuck with 3 rushers far too long. In the second half CP was on his heels as we began to blitz and rush 4. No billy winn killed us on the pass rush, so you have to adjust. I thought it took him far too long to make the move….and we still killed their run game like no other team in the nation. Patterson found the weakness and exploited it all day – right side corner, until he won. It was a gutsy call to go for 2, but he had nothing to lose and CP put it right where he needed to – right side corner. CP himself scored a 2 pt on the right side corner.
the end of the game decision was curious. Let your Heisman guy have a shot from the 20 on 3rd down, if nothing else we get closer and then kick the FG. But Pete has watched DG in practice and must have seen somethng that gave him confidence.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
Coach Pete is BSU
Drew was in due to two injuries. He fumbled…
Tackling and D could have,been better.
We had the game if a,kicker makes a,kick. He should of made it, didn’t.
I don’t fault Pete at all.
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 4:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
hmmm
Well I dont let my love for the team blind my reality. You have the best QB in the nation, let him win it not the third string running back. Plus that was a horrible call to waste the last 25 sec. to rely on a kicker to make a 39 yrdr when he cant make 20 yrd etra points.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe You Should Apply for the Head Coaching Job
Second Guessing from the seats and at home is easy.
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
maybe
but easy? you seem to be blowing it.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure if I'm following your comment.
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Good!
Get some rest, sounds like you need it.
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Actually you're NOT the man
Petersen is as smart as everyone thinks. This is a guy that has won over 90% of his games as a head coach and YOU’RE going to try and tell him what should have been done. LMFAO. Shut the (bw) up you jackazz.
Actually I am the man, it even says so on my profile.
Dont let your zealous for the team over ride reality, those were some horrible calls. Don’t be a coolaide drinker.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, just get ready
Why don’t you just get ready for your 9:00 to 5:00 job on Monday that nobody cares enough about to try and tell you in hindsight what you could have done better. If you’re so smart why don’t YOU get yourself a coaching job… I didn’t think so. Until you’re ready to put yourself in Coach Pete’s position your opinion is meaningless and totally without merit. IMHO But this is American and you’re entitled to your opinion, even if it’s wrong.
9-5 Im not a banker, and I go to work much earlier then that. And nobody would try and tell me how to do my job better, because I handle my business and get it done right.
And if my opinions so meaningless, why do you comment on it? I’m a fan who cares how his team plays, maybe you have no passion for it. maybe I can argue I am more of a fan then you are. I will not stop rooting for my team because they lost, but I am also a realist and can acknowledge when they play bad and make bad calls. So you can get off your high horse and go back to slobbering all over your fellow cool aid drinkers like BluManU
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait what?
Like me? Handsome, that is like me.
Munson X two...
I believe you meant to use the word zeal and everyone remembers the “Hey KoolAid” commercials.
by Boise Blue Harvest on Nov 13, 2011 6:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Peterson is the man.
But you are the Jackazz, pull your deformed head out of your reamed ass, and realize that different fans have different opinions, you are not god, and this is just a game.
I'm the Jackass?
It’s not a deformed head, its called a hard hat! Now whose the Jackass?
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
Dirty mule calling me a Jackass...Ironic.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
I'm going to repeat this just to vent...
What the crap were those end of the game calls about???? Since when is Pete not aggressive.
Also, as I’ve been saying, Patterson was all class at the end.
by Broncostuckincinci on Nov 12, 2011 4:30 PM PST reply actions
TCU stole his aggressiveness
and used it against him. that 2 point conversion was priceless.
Ya great
Rely on a kicker that misses extra points all yr. thats great logic
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 4:31 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It was one bad call by Coach Pete...
but think of all the brilliant calls he’s made in his career.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Nov 12, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he always is positive and tries to instill confidence in his players.
The way he does that is to let them play. At least we scored TDs unlike LSU and ’Bama.
i don't really care what you all say
THAT was petersens fault. 100%. You don’t bench one of the best players in the game to put the game in the hands of someone who is totally unproven and fails at the simplest things in his position.
We still had a timeout and like :20 left. why run the ball and waste it? Just throw 1 more pass hope for the 1st. then spike and throw for the endzone. if you don’t make it, then sure, kick the fg. don’t just fall over with :20 left and rely on the kicker. HORRIBLE call. absolutely awful. Like I’ve said before, I don’t get why you all trust his judgement so much. Sure he’s a good coach, but come on. That’s one of the worst football calls I’ve seen in a long time.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 4:36 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
hate to agree
But it’s true. it’s also true on the last drive. Put it in Moore’s hands and try to drive it close, get a gimme kick or a touchdown, don’t just run it with four minutes left. And you’re right – 20 seconds is another couple or three plays, yet you’re going to give that up in order to trust in somebody you’ve had no trust in all season. It was really bad coaching. I’m sorry, but it’s true.
You Should Be Our New Coach
I hope you understand sarcasm as well as you do hindsight.
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
hindsight
my ass. EVERYONE in the student section was like. Why are we going for the kick? EVERYONE knew it was a terrible call.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
even had he made it
I still would have said it was bad. wasting that much time off the clock with a timeout to go for the kick, WHEN YOU HAVE ONE OF THE BEST QBS IN THE GAME! you make him kneel it? Just awful.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Student Section
Explains a lot
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 9:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
yes,
god forbid we realize when our kicker can’t kick well before our coach does.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
correction
coach pete took out the best player in the game, not one of the best. classic!
TCU earned this one.
Good job, TCU. Great game. Wish we could keep this rivalry going, because it is a doozy. Kinda glad we can’t, because it is a doozy. Ugh, I feel beat up.
by Spyder Mayhem on Nov 12, 2011 4:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm totally heartbroken.
My family had to restrain me from punching out my TV.
After Nevada loss I told my friend I'd never watch a game at his house again.
I just got back from watching my hs lose in state playoffs and brought him home and just thought I’d watch the rest of the game after halftime at his house. It’s my fault everyone. Boise is 0-2 when I watch any games at his house.
I knew it!
I’ve been blaming you all along!
by Spyder Mayhem on Nov 12, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
It's my fault too
My wife has never seen Boise lose, last year for Nevada she fell asleep, and this year our internet connection was down so I went into another room. I shouldn’t have left the room. As soon as I left Wright fumbled and then Goodale missed.
protective custody next time
nothing serious – just house arrest. – at your house :)
I am tossing my magic orange and blue flamingos – mojo gone.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
It is my fault
Lifelong Buffalo Bills fan that adopted BSU when my folks moved to Boise a while back…Obviously ‘wide right’ is not an acceptable term in my house. I attended my first ever BSU game today and was standing directly below the uprights as the kick sailed wide. I blame myself.
However…I am an overly optimistic son of a gun. What I will TRY to remember from this game was the dozens of fantastic BSU fans I met. The OBNUG tailgate I attended and the kind people I met there. I flew up for this game to visit my family and see my little brother who I hadn’t seen in quite some time. We had the best time possible (for a loss) at the game. I would much rather have won the game…but I will always remember screaming at the top of my lungs with strangers turned friends and my lil bro till the last second of the game.
And one more thing…I don’t understand the hate towards our own players and coaches. If your brother was Dan Goodale would you spew this garbage? It is a game. I follow this team everyday of the year. Anyone who wants to jump ship now…go ahead. We’ll be fine without you and it will be sweeter when we win it all
"I do not like Nevada" - Myself
The "end" of Boise State? Please.
Two BCS bowl wins. Constant media exposure. Winning. Excellent coaching. Possibly going AQ. A shiny new stadium with state-of-the-art facilities on the way.
These are the kinds of things that bring in blue-chip recruits. These are the kinds of things that will make us able to reload instead of rebuild, just like all the other big-time programs. We haven’t reached the “end” of Boise State’s winning ways… we’re only at the beginning.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Nov 12, 2011 4:42 PM PST reply actions 8 recs
Recruting is the problem
I can’t believe that with BSU’s rise in power that we can’t recruit better players in the secondary. If we want to continue to play with the big boys with thier star recruits we have to get some of these guys. Its great that coach Pete can coach guys up but the defence sucks with out better athletes. So don’t think we can compete with LSU or Alabama or any of the big boys with the guys we have.
Wilson. Scandrick. Johnson. Carr. Alexander.
Your argument is invalid.
Play Rugby - No helmets, no pads. Just balls.
by bronconationeast on Nov 12, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
invalid how?
those players aren’t here anymore. that’s kinda the point. theyre gone, now there’s no one?
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
Responding to your recruiting theory.
Recruting is the problem
I can’t believe that with BSU’s rise in power that we can’t recruit better players in the secondary. If we want to continue to play with the big boys with thier star recruits we have to get some of these guys.
Play Rugby - No helmets, no pads. Just balls.
by bronconationeast on Nov 12, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
yeah? and?
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
/heavy sigh
You base your rant in “BSU can’t recruit better players in the secondary”. The fact is we’ve recruited NFL caliber players in the secondary for years, so your argument is invalid.
If you’re complaining why we don’t have any NOW (noting that we’re very thin due to injury and lack of playing time), that’s a much better question.
Play Rugby - No helmets, no pads. Just balls.
by bronconationeast on Nov 12, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
where did I give this recruiting philosophy?
I was simply pointing out the people you named aren’t at BSU anymore. I think the original posters point is that, we’ve only gotten better since those players, so, why have we gone down at that position?
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Taylor and Gavins
Are great…It is tough to plan on ALL of your CBs and RBs getting hurt
"I do not like Nevada" - Myself (11/26//10)
"I do not like TCU...But I do like them more than Nevada" - Myself (11/12/11)
Ok, how about this...
Iloka, Gavins, Taylor. All 3 will play on Sundays.
Gavins and Taylor were injured. Iloka can’t do it all himself. The secondary isn’t bad, they were young and inexperienced. TCU exploited it as well as our injuries in the secondary. Great game plan if you ask me. Not a lack of recruiting by any means.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 13, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe?
But I noticed that our new recruits or commits are all 3 star, where as the SEC, OK, Tex, ect… were getting a lot of 4 & 5 star. Just sayin.. I think Coach Pete would do a lot better than most of those teams, with all those 4 & 5 stars. Believe me, Coach Pete kicks butt with what he has. That’s what separates him apart from all the other coaches. That’s why all the big schools want him…I’m sure our recruiting has improved over the years , and will continue to do so. No worries………
Freshman,
I wish people would just calm down. I’m not going to make excused, TCU beat us, but do to injuries we had true freshman playing at corner and some safety. The coverage on the last touchdown that TCU got was pretty dang good and it was the same true freshman for BSU that intercepted. You guys are down a team that has lost 3 games in 4 years. Holy Crap!! Get over it. This is still a great team and BSU will be just fine.
by BluManU on Nov 12, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Some teams go through this two, three, eight, ten times a year.
Us? We’re the lucky ones. We literally go through this less than anyone else. Yup, it sucks, Nope, it isn’t the end.
by Spyder Mayhem on Nov 12, 2011 4:47 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
but
our 1 costs us millions of $ no matter how we do the rest of the year. other teams can and do still make bank even after losing. us. we CANT.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
...And?
We were good before we ever got any of that money. We’ll be good after we get more of that money. This isn’t about money. This is about my favorite team and your favorite team playing a game. Sometimes, though not very many times, those games don’t go our way. Life goes on. Really. I promise. We can’t lose money we never had.
by Spyder Mayhem on Nov 12, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
being 'good'
isn’t good enough? I mean, personally I don’t really want to go through life knowing I can never make it to the top. Not because I can’t. because I don’t want to. What kind of philosophy is that? We just wanna be good, but we don’t wanna win championships. In CFB $ can only help. And It’s money that should have been ours is the point. It’s right there and we can touch it and smell it, then it gets taken away because we can’t handle our own business.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
What?
Look, our HC is 69-6. He is still on pace to win 100 games before he loses ten. THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH. That is better than everyone else. Seriously. Better than every single other team in college football. Sometimes, though, even great teams lose football games. It happens.
Football isn’t about money. It isn’t about the size of the stadium. It isn’t about the prestige of the bowl game teams go to. It is about football. I didn’t once argue against “winning championships.” Our team is the winningest team in the last eleven years. That is amazing.
by Spyder Mayhem on Nov 12, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
We do win. I never said we didn’t. Like I said, if you don’t think football is about money, youre just a fool. When on all those other teams when we’ve been ‘good’ have we had a shot at the title? really? last year? ok, so, we blew it then too, but it’s ok guys because we had fun. this year we certainly had a chance, we blew it again though. But, like I said, we had fun and looked cute in our new unis. Look, it IS about winning. It IS about money. It IS about prestige. If you don’t think that, then, you don’t know CFB.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
and...
‘good enough’ to what? kind of every now and then make a bcs game, but never have any hopes of a national title? Because, that’s exactly where we are sitting right now. ‘the winningest’ team, a winning coach, the winningest qb, all for what? We’ll be lucky to win MWC. Glad good enough for you is 0 championships this year.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Time to move to the BE and hope to renew the AQ
Yea, this sucks, but we’ve still got things on the horizon…
Go Broncos…
"Your compliment was sufficient Lewis."
by Jeffkills on Nov 12, 2011 4:48 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Even if they do move to the BE
They still have to get the recruits and proove it on the field be for they get the respect of the BCS and the rest of the nation. Money and an AQ might help but they still have to earn the respect from the non believers.
Shun the Non Believerrrrrs!
Shhhuunnnnn!!!
by afoote on Nov 12, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
play a challenging schedule...
…..say, 5-6 TCU type teams a year and you will change the mind of the non-believers.
Jeffkills, I'm proud of you for your attitude.
A lot of these people could learn something from you.
GO BRONCOS!!!
We’re not losing to Boise freaking State. The rest of the country will thank us on Sunday for eliminating this perennial pretender from the outset. - Jman781
by Boise State of Mind on Nov 12, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
ME TOO
I’m gonna give you that noogie one of these days Kills Go Broncos!!!!
MrsDiggity.......NO DOUBT
Idaho skies are Blue and Orange
IT"S BW GAME DAY!!!
First (well, kinda second) Post
Sorry, fellow, but I am a lurker
Now, my friends, we can do what about 115 fan bases do every Saturday: have fun watching their team, win or lose.
We can watch in amazement while Moore throws perfect passes to his little, chippy receivers (BTW, he looked pretty human on that drive, Petersen might have been afraid of him throwing a pick)
We have a good team, a creative coaching staff, and a bright future. Lets have fun!
by Xorvat on Nov 12, 2011 4:49 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
what!?!?!
that’s loser talk.
how can you enjoy watching this team beat up on on some crap team after blowing the season again?
Dude... wake up.
This is our reality. We lost. Now we have to make the best of what’s left of our season.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
oh my god
you could say that exact thing after every Idaho loss as an Idaho fan!
no, it’s BSU’s reality, they have to try and make the best of this season, and next, don’t think this loss doesn’t have long term repercussions
No, the repercussions are pretty short-term.
Next year, we’ll be in the Big East, where we’ll be swimming in money and won’t have to be absolutely perfect just to have a shot at the Fiesta Bowl, and this loss will be forgotten.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
no
your whole post is about as accurate as “Next year, we’ll be in the Big East”
and hey, looks like you’re a Charger fan? did this loss not seem just like so many Charger losses? had it in the bag, many many chances to win, but blew it anyways.
I’m done with the Chargers, done with BSU, done with football till 2013 at the earliest
And every post you make
Either proves that you’re a fair weather fan or a Vandal fan in disguise. Losses happen, few as they may be around here… we just have to move on.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
what does that even mean?
losses happen… move on… you people sound like you’d be just as happy with 6-6,
if anything I am the one moving on, I’m going to do something else with my Saturdays
It means
It’s not the end of the world. Yes it’s nice when your team wins, but part of being a fan is supporting them when they lose too. I’m glad you’re going to do something else with your Saturdays, because negative idiots like you give fanbases a bad name anyway. TCU lost to Baylor and SMU this year, and did you see how well they turned out for the game today? They know it isn’t the end of the world just because their team lost, and so should we.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
Even more fun would be Georgia beating them.
Let the BCS figure that one out.
by freshbreff on Nov 12, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I can support this.
Editor @ Dawg Sports. 3rd degree Red 'n Black Belt.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
DB Struggles
Was a little frustrated that the Versus commentators never really mentioned that Boise was playing with there second and third team DBs. Freshman at that.
Actually they did
mentioned Gavins a couple times, how we miss him and how young the remainder. Even mentioned that Taylor was hurting.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
Congrats to TCU. They really exposed our weaknesses today.
Now I need to shower, I think.
by freshbreff on Nov 12, 2011 4:52 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
When the D plays that bad
Don"t expect to win. TCU did what it had to do. We didn’t. But I’m having a hard time picturing us playing in some NO Name Bowl game. It just seems like it isn’t worth the trouble ? LOL
I feel for the seniors. Kellen and the rest of the seniors deserved to go out on a better note than this.
Injuries
We tried to overcome a ton of injuries and just couldn’t get it done. We left our corners on islands…… often…… but we stopped the run.
I love me my Broncos, win or lose.
Everybody has to lose sometime. We can be perfect all the time. Better get used to it because we are likely going to lose a couple next season. recoils, waiting for the inevitable stoning
I agree that if this makes us miss a BCS bowl then we should pay the pay the exit fee and go to the Big East next season.
by B.D.Bronco on Nov 12, 2011 4:54 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I agree
TCU played one hell of a game. It’s tuff to loose one like this but we all have to lose sometime.
by bcshtr on Nov 12, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Slimmest of chances BCS
Houston loses to SMU or Tulsa, Ducks beat Stanford badly, we win out and they take us because the powers that be want to see Kellen one last chance in prime time.
But hey, if it doesn’t happen maybe we can get the Poinsettia Bowl again :)
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
preferably Tulsa
My grandfather was a Packers fan, my father is a Vikings fan, I am a Lions fan, and there is no way in hell I am raising a Bears fan.
Oh, and I hate the Philadelphia Eagles (but like the Phillies)
Dont we have to win our conference?
And doesn’t that mean TCU needs to lose a game so we can be co-champs?
"I do not like Nevada" - Myself (11/26//10)
"I do not like TCU...But I do like them more than Nevada" - Myself (11/12/11)
For an Auto-Bid, Yes
However, to be considered as an at-large team, we really only have to be listed in the top 14. If we make our way back into the top 10, I think we have a good chance to be selected, especially if Houston loses and we are the only at-large-eligible non-AQ.
"Maybe we should chug on over to Mamby-Pamby-land where maybe we can find some self confidence for you, you Jackwagon!"
by casketbase on Nov 12, 2011 11:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
just like me
we shake it off and move the bw on!!!!
MrsDiggity.......NO DOUBT
Idaho skies are Blue and Orange
IT"S BW GAME DAY!!!
Monday's blog
So will it be three goats and one star for this game?
by bhopefull on Nov 12, 2011 4:55 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Nothing like playing a good team to expose weaknesses
Too many injuries, too little depth.
I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.
Boise's BCS Bowl bid isn't over...
“One conference champion from the MAC, C-USA, Sun Belt, Wac and MWC will receive an automatic invite to a BCS bowl.”
Houston still has their toughest games ahead.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 12, 2011 4:57 PM PST reply actions
Yes, it is
It was a good run, but it’s over.
I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.
Whose going to take a one loss non AQ school
In a BCS bowl game after a loss to the non AQ conference champion.
Its not automatic- only if this happens
The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:
A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.
That's for an auto bid...
There is still an at large bid we can (and technically DO) qualify for… assuming we win out, that is.
The SEC is a moot point. They will send 2 teams to BCS bowls. Whether a 3rd team from the SEC is ranked ahead of us doesn’t matter.
The ‘at-large eligibility’ of the BCS states:
“If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers,” (which there will be) "then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. An at-large team is any Football Bowl Subdivision team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:
A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.
Currently there will be 6 auto qualifiers from the AQ conferences. That’s a given. The SEC will put 2 into BCS bowls.
What’s left are 3 slots to be filled. If Houston wins out, they’ll get a non-AQ auto bid. They, however, still have to play Tulsa, SMU and Southern Miss (in the C-USA championship game… IF they make it through SMU and Tulsa first). Those are all 3 games that Houston can very likely lose.
The Pac-12 and Big 12 MAY send a second team to a BCS bowl. If either Stanford or Oregon loses another one, they’ll likely fall behind Boise. If OSU beats OU (which looks more and more like a possibility) then OU will fall behind Boise State. The ACC won’t send another team besides the conference champ because the ACC #2 team will have at least 2 losses and also fall behind Boise. And if any of those conferences don’t send a 2nd team to a BCS bowl, it’s not likely the Big Ten will either since they don’t even have a single team in the top 10 much less ranked AHEAD of Boise State at this point. And we already know that the Big East won’t send a second one.
Honestly, the odds of it happening aren’t great but they’re still better than the odds of us every playing for the BCS title were even when we were undefeated. It takes another Stanford OR Oregon loss, OSU beating OU and a loss from Houston. Even 2 out of 3 of those make it possible for us to get into a BCS bowl with an at-large bid.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 13, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
This is not the end yet
This could be the year that everyone has a loss. Im not giving up just yet. Go Ducks. We should be like Kellen was in the post game press conference a class act, win or lose.
by skipit on Nov 12, 2011 4:59 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Amen
He is and was a class act.
I remember the same types of nay saying commentary after the OKLAHOMA win…and, the following year…then Kellen showed up…we wil be as good, and better!
Hey cmon fans...lets win out!!!
go 11-1, crush somebody in a bowl game, say goodbye to some amazing seniors and…
…come back and do it again next year. Its what we do.
Hope DJ is ok – he is unbelievable, heart and skill.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
Boise Is The Underdog
Don’t forget, we have always been an underdog; this game is by no means the end, it just shows we can never become complacent. We just need to get back to our underdog style, play every game like we have something to prove, and we will prove it.
Better to have play a mid-level schedule and potentially be the best team in the nation, than to play and lose on a hard schedule and remove all doubt.
by Mike Olsen on Nov 12, 2011 5:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The whole Bronco team is a class act.
That was a lot of pressure on a kicker. Just ask KB and he was experienced.
by bcshtr on Nov 12, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh Man.
We made a blog bet with Frogs O’ War, didn’t we?
Bleed blue every day, and bring the hammer every play
Yup. I don’t know if I’ll have the heart to look at OBNUG for a little while
by BlueBlackout on Nov 12, 2011 5:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
the only thing that came good out of this game is.....
How much work we have to do on defense. Recruit recruit and recruit. Go broncos.
Live like a champion.
by Mr.BombDonkey on Nov 12, 2011 5:12 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Great, great game
Hate to see it lost on a kick, but great, great game. Moore is the best QB in college ball.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman
"I'm not upset about the U allegations," tweeted Cleveland Indians closer Chris Perez, who pitched at Miami. "I'm mad we didn't win anything while we were cheating."
By the way...
no more orange uniforms. They’re officially cursed.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Nov 12, 2011 5:20 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
How can they be cursed?
It’s not like we’re 0-2 with them…
My grandfather was a Packers fan, my father is a Vikings fan, I am a Lions fan, and there is no way in hell I am raising a Bears fan.
Oh, and I hate the Philadelphia Eagles (but like the Phillies)
How?
We blew out Fresno last year 51-0 in orange uniforms? Should we not wear white anymore either because thats what we wore when we lost to Nevada? Or how bout blue because we lost to Washington State in our blue unis all those years ago? Seriously?
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
seriously though
they really do make the tv viewing experience so much better.
My biggest question of the game is
how is Kellen 28-for-28?
I know I definitely saw some incomplete passes on that last drive
My grandfather was a Packers fan, my father is a Vikings fan, I am a Lions fan, and there is no way in hell I am raising a Bears fan.
Oh, and I hate the Philadelphia Eagles (but like the Phillies)
Must be a BIFFF fail...
Yippee Ki-ya... MR FALCON!
by OBNUG Intern on Nov 12, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
didn't see that stat
but if you did, i am sure it is part of ESPN’s love fest and their attempt to keep BSU and Kellen relevant in the national picture
I don't blame any one person or position...
And anyone who does has problems and is most likely a fair weather fan. For those of you pissing and moaning and dropping F bombs left and right, grow up! I’m just as upset as the next person that my team lost a close game, but I don’t think I could do a better job than the coaches or any of the players on the field did, and for that, I have no complaints. We have a lot of injuries, this game had a lot of hype, and TCU was fired up there’s no doubt about that. This game was supposed to be on their home turf and it got moved, they were 15 point underdogs, and most of the fans and media were looking past this game as a guaranteed win for Boise. Our season isn’t over, not til the last second ticks off the clock in whatever bowl game we make it to. I’ll continue to support the Broncos just as I always have, win or lose. We’ve been spoiled the last decade, we’re not used to seeing our team lose, and when we do most of our fans turn on the team and each other like idiots. If you wanna play the blame game, let’s try it. You could blame Goodale for missing that fieldgoal (that was 6 yards longer than his season long, and had a lot more pressure on it than the 32 yarder he made). You could blame it on Drew Wright for fumbling the ball and giving it back to TCU. You could blame it on our secondary (mostly backups and inexperienced freshman) blowing coverages. You could blame it on our O line for letting the pressure get to Moore more than usual. You could blame it on Coach Pete or any of the other coaches for calling bad plays. Blame it on anything you want, and I’d like to ask you, if you went out there, in their positions, would you have done a better job? Honestly? If you said yes, you’re either lying or you’re a coach or player in the NFL or on another college team. Any coaches or players here? Didn’t think so. I’m sick of all that hatred and bad mouthing whenever we slip up (which isn’t very often). Yes, our team lost. That may have hurt some our pride and feelings, or wallets (if you’re a gambler). Aside from that, what did we lose from it? Not nearly as much as the kids out their playing. TCU is a damn good football team, and they showed up today. They wanted this game more and they took advantage of our mistakes. They capitalized every chance they got, and they beat us, plain and simple. Sorry to rant like this, I’m as big of a fan as the next guy, but I understand teams lose every now and then, and we as fans have to get over it and move on. So let’s rise up, support our team and move our focus to next week, just like the team already has.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
by Moto2.5 on Nov 12, 2011 5:26 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
I don't think TCU wanted it more
I don’t think it had anything to do with motivation or energy. BSU had a secondary that was down to its last choices, and they fumbled twice at terrible times.
Team loss, team win
Team loss by the very slimmest of margins. Team win for the Frogs by the same slimmest of margins I will be out there cheering the boys on the next 3 games, as usual. Does not matter which bowl they get – its the team.
I am crushed this morning but it doesn’t feel anything like Nevada for some reason. Time to get up, go to Church and look forward to next week. The Bronco’s are still hero’s.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
Hey, look on the bright side Bronco Nation...
We lost to a great team. Now we know what it’s like to build true rivalries against other great teams that could go either way.
We lost by one point. I know, a loss is a loss, but pick your heads up because we had some stellar moments in that game to be proud of. The game itself was nothing to be ashamed of.
We can STILL get into a BCS bowl. And even if we don’t… that makes joining the Big East next year that much cheaper, lol.
I’m still proud of my Broncos and I will still wear them proudly on my sleeve even in Eugene, Oregon.
I LOVE BOISE STATE!!! GO BRONCOS!!!
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 12, 2011 5:26 PM PST reply actions
One more thing...
WE ARE A HELLUVA TEAM! They should be continually congratulated for their efforts both on and off the field. There’s no other team like it in the nation, so wipe yourself off and pull your support for the team the rest of the season. There are still games to play and one of the best teams we will witness all year long… OUR VERY OWN BRONCOS!
Do you realize how much NFL talent is playing on our team? Cherish while they play for us… root them on and send them off with the most support your BW’s can!
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 12, 2011 5:29 PM PST reply actions
This Bronco team may not go undefeated
But they are still the pride of Idaho and when we wake up tomorrow still feeling the hurt just remember there’s next week and the week after and so on.
We will still get a bowl game. GO BRONCOS
I see lots of mentions of the Big East....but as far as I know, we haven't been invited yet.
Will we still be?
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
we're still better than anything else they got. I expect an invite and acceptance before the year is out.
I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010
Yup
After Cincy’s loss to WVU today the Big East is in serious danger of not having any ranked teams again. Even if we end up finished at #15-#20 this season, that is still better than anything the current BE has produced the last couple of seasons. Houston’s history is kind of erratic and none of the other mentioned candidates bring ranked teams.
I think if we had Gavins and Taylor we would have won this game going away
But that’s how the cookie crumbles. Our DL hasn’t looked the same as last year to me and we couldn’t get pressure with our front 4. When we blitzed our young corners were put on islands and they got torched, particularly Makinde.
I think all our corners are good athletes and will become good player but they lack experience and instincts right now.
I think our offense did what was expected. TCU has a stout defense and I alwyas felt they would be hitting on pretty much all cylinders by the time Nov. got here. They played very well and got more pressure than we did. Kellen was off on several throws from my point of view but didn’t throw any picks either.
This is what bigtime CFB is about and TCU plays us better than anyone else imo. Right now, I feel like we are not deserving of our current ranking due to the problems in the secondary and the depth issue we now have. I feel we would probably be outright embarrassed by either OU or OkSt. b/c I don’t think we have the depth at CB to cover 4 and 5 WR sets w/ their kind of talent and depth at that position. I do think we would play either LSU or Bama tough but we will not get that chance now.
Remember, we are overachieving as a program by a long shot. We have few 4 star recruits and have never recruited a 5 star athlete. We haven’t come close to reaching our ceiling yet. So we’ll finish out this year and see what happens in the years to follow, particularly if we can get into the BE and get the cash to really build our facilities up.
I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010
by pjohn56 on Nov 12, 2011 5:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Secondary absolutely cost us the game
I’m not going to call anyone out or lay the blame completely at their feet…we ran the ball well and passed well enough to extend drives. In the 2nd half we made the necessary adjustments to get back in command. The fumble late in the 4th killed us as did the 2 point conversion…but our young secondary was not ready for a game of that magnitude. I think our secondary is great…but too inexperienced at corner today to shut down a TCU passing game that was good but not as good as we made them look. I feel bad that Hightower, Makinde, and QEB got thrown to the wolves…but that is football. Our lack of depth at running back showed today at the end…but probably wouldn’t have mattered if DJ hadn’t got dinged. Sucks to lose period, but especially sucks to lose like that. That said—congrats to TCU on the win and when you are evenly matched with a team it’s a 50/50 proposition at best most times…that showed today.
by Drew Roberts on Nov 12, 2011 5:56 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
...and seriously...
we need to look into all of these season ending injuries in practice….it is getting absurd!
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
by TooMuchYoung on Nov 12, 2011 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Line play as well
I don’t think you can put it entirely on the secondary although I think the defense as a whole hurt. The long passes took time to develop and they got very little pressure on TCU’s QB. Although 35 points should have been enough to win the game, you have to hang on to the ball. I have no doubt that without the fumble BSU would have scored or run out the clock. But, that’s why they play the game.
Here is my thoughts....
Not that anyone feels much like reading them right now….but…I am not as upset as the Nevada game. We played on even terms with TCU all day and lost the game. We got beat because of one position, one fumble and one questionable coaching decision. That is all.
1) The corner spot opposite Talyor could not compete today. I feel like a BW but I am not sure that Makinde hurt anything but his pride on that 2nd TD he gave up and Hightower isn’t quite ready to play against a good WR full time.
2) Wright’s fumble was the worst possible thing ever! We were driving and killing clock and putting together a great seal the victory drive and the poor kid makes a great run and fumbles. Injuries caught up to us here…no Winn, no Gavins, no Dougie, no Malcolm Johnson, no Ajayji, down to Hightower at corner and it was just too much.
3) I can’t understand centering the ball with 21 seconds left and a timeout. I just don’t get it. Goodale’s long was 32 and it was a lucky bounce and we purposely line up for a 39 yarder? we have Moore and a group of recievers who want nothing more than to make a play for Kellen. I know we have the best coach in the whole wide world but I don’t understand the decision to play for the field goal….I never will. As far as blaming the coach though…..no, he called a good game and we both didn’t make enough plays and didn’t get the bounces (twice we should have had fumble recoveries and didn’t) to win….can’t win them all!
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
That was a fantastic game today, Broncos and your fans have been funny and classy throughout these four clashes. Part of me wishes we could just keep playing forever, but at the same time I don’t think the hearts of either fanbase could handle a yearly series with all of the games like this. Best of luck going forward, dominate the Mountain West next year and have fun in the Big East in 2013. We’ll see you in the 2013 BCS title game.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Nov 12, 2011 6:02 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Thanks....
tough loss and in a close one like we always play against each other it is so easy to just come up with fault in your own team but each team had a chance to win and TCU won….congrats!
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
by TooMuchYoung on Nov 12, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
I hate you with your not gloating and your damned perspective
Say ‘hi’ to Truff, I’ll be drinking and praying that Oregon loses.
I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.
Classy Frog
Thanks for the sentiment. 2013 it is!
"I do not like Nevada" - Myself (11/26//10)
"I do not like TCU...But I do like them more than Nevada" - Myself (11/12/11)
We will actually miss you guys
Class act, class team, class coach, class fans, interesting mascot…dang, we can’t let just 4 games be our legacy! 12 point separation in 4 games. Dang.
Good luck in the Big 12 Froggies!
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
I disagree with one point...
I don’t think the hearts of either fanbase could handle a yearly series with all of the games like this.
Siezures and heart attacks notwithstanding, games like this and rivalries like this and especially teams like these are what make this sport the absolute best in the world. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Otherwise, you’re absolutely right and I appreciate your team (coaches and players alike) and fanbase being gracious and classy winners.
Long live the Broncos/Frogs Game!!!
S/N: Do you think it’s a possibility that our AD and your AD talked after the game about more OOC games being scheduled between the two? I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE that to happen, whether we win or lose, it’s ALWAYS been a great game either team can still hang their hats on.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 13, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
It’s possible, but unlikely in the immediate future. We have marquee home and homes with LSU and Arkansas coming up over the next five years, and playing the teeth of the SEC as well as Texas, Oklahoma and Okie State is suicide. We do have an open date next year now that 0U is a conference game, but Boise’s schedule being full (and the lack of an open date the next few years for a return game) make it unlikely that we’ll see you outside of the BCS for the next five years at least.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Nov 13, 2011 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
I'm trying To watch Oregon vs Stanford
But I’m so upset I don’t think I can watch any football tonight
You're watching football?
Don’t think I’ll be doing any more of that tonight.
Metroid Prime for me…
"Your compliment was sufficient Lewis."
I knew I liked you Broncos for a reason. I played Prime after the Baylor loss for hours.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Nov 12, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
Alas, BroncoNation, it wasn't meant to be ...
Regardless, I am a Bronco Fan, and I am extremely proud of the program built here at Boise State University!!! Congrats to TCU and their fans for a hard fought victory!!
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
This sucks
Ive adopted Boise as my Northwest team which can win during the Dark Ages of Cougar football.
Was really looking forward to Boise playing in the Sugar against Bama and shuting up some SEC Circle-jerkers once and for all.
Alas it wasn’t meant to be. What bowl does Boise wind up in now anyways?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Good Game TCU
It was a hard fought game, I love the rivalry between our teams. I think this puts us tied…would love for a yearly rivalry, but alas it shalt not be. You guys have a great team and a great attitude! Here’s hoping to future meetings and close games. Looks like neither of us are BCS busters this year….
I think Boise should've tried to get ball to 1/2 yard line on left hash
That FG would’ve been sooooo money from there.
Had our chances and failed
The offense had a chance to ice this game and run out the clock. They failed. The defense had a chance to stop TCU from driving the length of the field. They failed. They had another chance to stop a two-point conversion. They failed. The special teams had a chance to pull out a miraculous victory with a very makable FG. They failed. When you fail that much in the last three minutes, you don’t deserve to win…
by Boise State Chris on Nov 12, 2011 6:32 PM PST reply actions
good stuff
This is all right on the money…still I will always second guess centering the ball with 21 seconds left…we didn’t deserve the win either way though, TCU was a little better today, simple as that.
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
by TooMuchYoung on Nov 12, 2011 6:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Thank you
for pointing that out. The field goal should be irrelevant anyway. TCU won when Moore threw an incomplete on 4th & 10. If TCU had lost because the refs decided to give Boise a 2nd chance, I’d be pissed. TCU was the better team today.
I agree TCU deserves the win BUT
There was a blatant non called pass interference on 3rd down of the same drive…..watch the tape…
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
by TooMuchYoung on Nov 12, 2011 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks....
You are an honest Boise State fan.
Of course, this game should have been played in Texas, to boot.
The better team won.
Just sad that KMoore didn’t get to go out with a perfect season. I was hoping that BS would somehow break into that Title game against LSU, then somehow beat LSU and then prove, once and for all, that the so-called ‘BCS’ is BS.
Alas, was not to be.
My heart goes out to BSU fans. Going into this game, Boise State was at the summit. It will never, ever be as good as it was. It will be a long, slow decent from here. But hey, you’ve never had to live with a crap team. Hopefully it doesn’t last for a long, long time.
by ConfofChamps on Nov 12, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
For somethings you're a fan of Oregon, but for others you're a fan of Oregon State?
That reminds me of a former partner I worked for who loved the Bruins at basketball and the Trojans at football. Screw that. Pick a school, dude.
I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.
by marktgarten on Nov 12, 2011 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
Nonsense
We don’t thing that way, and have to reeducate ourselves every year. Becauuse we don’t decline, and there won’t be a long slow decline. Too much Coach Pete, too much talent, too much desire, too much legacy. Every time we jump a level, after having won its national championship, we just keep rolling.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
and the 4th TD pass hit the ground, I swear
either the refs had no good angle or just not enough to overturn, but it hit the turf – you could could see Carter pick up the ball.
But the call on 4th down should have been holding, not PI. He had Miller by the jersey as Moore was fighting for his life. That should have been the call but the ref picked PI.
Teams were as evenly matced as possible – we just didn’t grab enough of your fumbles and fumbled twice near your red zone, losing the ball both times.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
Double move, double move, double move, double move...need I say more?
UGA fans are eligible twice: once for the uniforms, and twice for the involuntary surgery at the hands of Dr. Kellen Moore.
by SWATTeamMentality on Nov 12, 2011 6:35 PM PST reply actions
We really missed Winn.
We could have really used Gavins too.
In Order
Secondary, last Fumble, decision to kick, kick>>That’s the order in which the Bronco’s lost. Come on though, what a game. As usual, if there going to lose, why not do it with some controversy. TCU has always played BSU tough.
As much as it pains me to say this, I think it is fortunate that we lost this afternoon. Why? Because the way we played today; The way we allowed UNLV to score three TDs; The way we barely escaped Air Force; The way we struggled to stop Toledo’s run. I really think that we would have been seriously embarrassed in the Sugar Bowl by whatever SEC team we played. I think a lose now to a decent TCU is better than a dismantling by Bama.
This is true.
If the secondary played in a BCS bowl the way they played today, it wouldn’t have come down to a field goal. We’d have been run out of the stadium by a deeper team, whether it be Bama or LSU or Okie Lite or even Clemson.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Disagree
We just played the best offense we would play all year. And we shut down one half of it while being crippled. I think our offense can beat any defense. LSU or Bama would score on us, but not like Pachal and his weapons did. Besides, you have an entire month to heal going into a BCS bowl. We get Bill Winn Back and Doug, etc….we hang in the big one (Sugar Bowl, whatever).
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
Agreed
I think that this years team, is still really good, and even in a loss, it was fun all the way to the end, but we had a little more fire power the last couple years. Doesn’t mean we couldn’t play with Bama, I think at this point in the season TCU and there newly confident qtrbk(after edging us), would beat Bama. Maybe will see that happen. Bama has a great defense but they have a good running back, thats it.
from the sounds of it all
Players were free lancing and not listing to what the coaches were telling them to do.
BSU stopped the run game but forgot that football is also a passing game. No kicker ever should have been placed in that position IF our defense would have done it’s job. United BSU stands divided BSU fell
by Mr.BombDonkey on Nov 12, 2011 7:12 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
I'm consuling myself by:
A: wishing hateful stuff on stanford
B: watching BYU thump dUI
by Bluelikeyou on Nov 12, 2011 7:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions
A One Loss Season = A GREAT SEASON!!!
This is college football…we are dealing with 18-23 year old young men. Teams lose games…it just happens. The fact that we had not lost a season home conference game since 1998 is insane. We still have a great season and bowl game ahead of us!!
TCU is a great team and the game could have gone either way. We should hold our heads high and be proud of these young men! GO BRONCOS!!!
by csf68 on Nov 12, 2011 7:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
This is still a season and a team to be proud of. Boohoo we won’t make the national championship game or possibly even a BCS bowl. Get over it people. I’m beyond sick of all the whiners and finger-pointers, it’s ridiculous. Unless you bet your house on the game, you have no reason to be so upset. We lost, I’m past it already. It stung a little bit but those of you who are snapping into a psychosis must not be long time fans. That or you’ve become far too comfortable with our winning ways. My mother-in-law put it best this afternoon, “If I loved them when they were 1-10, I can love them when they’re 10-1.” All is not lost, and we’re far better than we have been in years past. If this loss is a reason for anyone not to be a fan/not watch their games anymore, then good riddance, we don’t want you fairweather fans around anyway. If this thins out the herd, so be it, I’d rather the fanbase be half the size it is now but with committed fans who will still applaud our boys in a close hard fought loss, rather than blurt expletives off about individual players and coaches, or make death threats to kickers. Just my two cents, I’ll be a Bronco fan forever, win or lose… they don’t have to win the crystal trophy for me to know that they’re a good football team.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
by Moto2.5 on Nov 12, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Its OK
I get all that, but come on, any passionate football fans going to go a little nuts, especially when its all that close. Just get on a Bama site, there in total nuts & in denial. Didn’t you see the Penn St fans this week. Doesn’t mean their going anywhere soon. Were suppose to be a little upset, maybe even a little traumatized. If you feel like your part of a team, your going to feel the same pain as the team sometimes, and this is where we vent..
I understand what you mean,
believe me I do. I was beyond upset when the ball went wide right tonight. But I’ve mellowed out and let reality set in (not in a negative way). I’m just trying to make a point to those who are so negative about the whole situation, whether it be ranting about specific players, the coaches, or the team in general. We’re still in a very fortunate situation as Boise State fans, do you know how many fanbases would kill just to have their team have back to back 1 loss seasons? Or to watch their team be ranked in the top 25 for longer than all but a handful of other teams. I’m just sick of hearing people go crazy over one loss and fans fighting with each other over who’s right about why we lost. Does it matter? Will that change the outcome of the game that’s already been played? No, it won’t, it’s all for personal gain for that particular individual making the argument. It’s just ridiculous. I’m upset about the game, but I can’t change the outcome, and all I can do is be positive for the future, and I’m just trying to get a few others to join me.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
by Moto2.5 on Nov 12, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ok.
sign me up. /sigh
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
Me too.
Everyone seems a little crazy right now.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 12, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
I will place the blame
A. Dan Hawkins was there
B. Winsten Venible wasn’t playing (he was there too)
C. And any 11-1 team is still bad ass to me.
I you don’t like it root for dUI and learn what losing feels like
by Mr.BombDonkey on Nov 12, 2011 7:18 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
LMAO and rec'd
Freaking Dan Hawkins… go back to whatever hole you crawled out of. You jinx every team you go near! Lol
And I’ve been saying since the beginning of the season that the one player I miss the most is Venable… man some of his hits were hard to watch. He brought the stick.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 13, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
only from the
Basement. Hawkins blows like the pole you love
by Mr.BombDonkey on Nov 13, 2011 5:46 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Consolation prize? Now we can go to the Big East next year rather than 2013 and only pay $5 mil instead of $21 mil. Yay!
Can we please
Learn to recover some fumbles! It’s not just this game but it seems to be a constant theme for BSU this year. And I do not understand not trying to get the ball closer with 21 seconds left, and a TIMEOUT!!! That makes zero sense to me
"All we can do is win the games on our schedule" - Coach Pete
by givemesomemoore on Nov 12, 2011 7:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions
how about
Learning to make tackles? continuous problem this year. Or putting a safety in over the top to guard against those deep passes? Horrific play calling today. We earned this loss.
by Broncoernicus on Nov 12, 2011 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
Do you think the defense went back to the sidelines after not recovering the fumbles...
And got yelled at by Coach K? I HIGHLY doubt it. In fact, I’m positive he was singing their praises and congratulating them for their amazing play and high-intensity effort. Please give credit to the defense for at least that…
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 13, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry that last one was intended for...
givemesomemoore’s comment, not yours. Comment fail.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 13, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Ok, let's get this straight...
WE FORCED those fumbles. None of those we didn’t recover went for any extra yardage, in fact TWO of them went for negative yardage AFTER the fumble… and on of those was a 21-yard loss! The other fumble we DID recover went for a TD! You cannot be mad at that aspect of the game when forcing those fumbles (as many as there were and that doesn’t happen often at all) was a blessing. The defense DID THEIR JOB in forcing them.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 13, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
I guess it is just a point of frustration on my part. I LOVE that face that we are forcing so many fumbles this year. I really do. I just wish we would recover more. I am in no way blaming this loss on the fact that we didn’t recover 2 forced fumbles, or Drew Wright’s fumble. If I remember right there were at least a couple forced fumbles against Air Force that weren’t recovered either.
It just sucks when a fumble is in Jonathan Brown’s hands and we can’t come up with. It also just seems like with as many balls as have been put on the ground (forced and coughed up by Bronco’s) that just by sheer numbers they would recover more of them. I’m not blaming them, just wishing we could get more.
If Brown hold’s onto that 2nd forced fumble, the pace of the game would have completely changed. I know it didn’t and they still had chances. It’s just frustrating to watch. I know it’s football and the ball bounces crazy ways. Just me I guess. Sorry you don’t agree.
"All we can do is win the games on our schedule" - Coach Pete
by givemesomemoore on Nov 14, 2011 1:41 AM PST up reply actions
KM just alright!
Kellen took a beatin today, the Tank creamed him helmet to helmut, and he kept on tickin. Keep in mind,’ Kellen did again, just like last year, put them in a position to win. I’m only upset the kicker let Kellen down on that drive, not that he lost the game…
To be fair
KM did his best to lose the game for us too. He was uncharacteristically shaky on that last drive. The KM I know would have methodically driven down the field 8-15 yards at a time, instead of throwing three terrible passes and a PI gimme that wasn’t a PI at all. He made some terrible decisions today.
by Broncoernicus on Nov 12, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
Misccomunication
when KM misses that bad, something is wrong. Shoe went one way and the ball the other on two plays – that normally does not happen.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
People make mistakes...
One bad call every now and then doesn’t make him a bad coach. There’s plenty of coaches out there who do far worse. We don’t know what he was thinking. Maybe Goodale had been doing well in practice this week and they thought he could make it. There could be multiple reasons why he decided to call that instead of something else, we’ll never know, but someone who’s just a regular fan like you and me can’t say for fact that if we were in his shoes we would’ve made a better call. Maybe we could’ve for that last 21 seconds, but could we have for the entire game? Doubt it. How bout you guys stop trying to point fingers and finding someone to blame and just get over it. We lost, we’re not gonna keel over and die because of it.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
Every loss like this
is a massive setback for national perception of BSU. Continue having seasons like this and instead of plateauing at 4-5 we wont even be able to break into the top 10, because we will inevitably lose a game down the stretch. sickening.
by Broncoernicus on Nov 12, 2011 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
If losing one game a season
Is sickening for you, then sports just aren’t for you my friend. If being a non-aq and being consistently ranked in the top 25 for longer than most aq schools isn’t enough for you, then college football, and more importantly, Boise State football isn’t for you. Yes we all get tired of the disrespect from the media and the voters and blah blah blah, but if you give up or get too upset about it, you’re letting them win. They’d all love nothing more than for Boise State to fade back into oblivion, but I’ll tell ya something, it ain’t happenin. We’re still a team on the rise, and you can quote me there. Our recruiting has been getting better consecutively, as well as our coaching staff… not just over the past few years (ie Post-Fiesta Bowl I) but over the past few decades. We’re a great program and can only get better, and if fans aren’t patient enough to stick around and watch that happen, that’s their loss.
"Moore took a knee. It was an act of mercy. Boise State didn't need style points. It had proven itself the superior program long before." - Andy Staples, SI.com
Never said he was a bad coach
and never said I could coach a better game. But you are right on one thing, Maybe I could have for that last 21 sec. and btw I was over it 10 min after the game.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
You're pathetic, dude.
Even the all-time great coaches make mistakes occasionally. Coach Pete’s playcalling was questionable at times today, but you know what? Think of all the times he had outstanding playcalling. Think of both Fiesta Bowl wins, for example. I’ll gladly take one badly-called game like this in exchange for all the wins Coach Pete has coached us to.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Pathetic?
because I express my opinion? didn’t realize this was a communist blog.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
Nothing wrong with expressing your opinion...
but the WAY you’ve been expressing your opinion is blatantly inflammatory.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
No, because you're calling out other posters.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
example?
disagreeing with other posts and defending my point of view is not calling out. saying meet me on the playground at 3:00 is calling out. if I have said anything like that an example would be appreciated.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
Example? Sure...you come off as a creeper. Delta Bravos belong on Bronco Country or the Statesman web blog...not here
Delta Bravos?
not sure what that means, guess I don’t log enough computer time, but I’m guessing it is meant to be derogatory. Maybe name calling is a requirement for this blog? Creeper, pathetic, Jackass.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
Delta Bravos
= D.B = BW summers eve get it
MrsDiggity.......NO DOUBT
Idaho skies are Blue and Orange
IT"S BW GAME DAY!!!
no problem just here to help
I highly suggest not being a DELTA BRAVO for some people it seams like hard task
MrsDiggity.......NO DOUBT
Idaho skies are Blue and Orange
IT"S BW GAME DAY!!!
Your telling me.
Have a different point of view and they come out of the wood works
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
Here's an example, verbatim.
No questioning Pete!
BluemanU, kylewilson01, and Kazzy won’t have it.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Kevan...Please kick this guy out of here! The one thing we never do here is speak ill of Coach Pete. Go to Bronco Country to bitch and moan!
seems like the devensive ones are the ones not yet over it.
by I'm the man. on Nov 12, 2011 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
You're still here?
Guess what, you’re still NOT the man.
When Coach Pete Walks
I hope you can fill his shoes…
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 8:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
kick the coach
If coach Pete put Goodale in in any number of thost 4 th down situations all season it might have been easier. E.G. instead of the knee at Ga. why not let him have a chance at a field goal???
Grumpdad...
Really? Can’t find any other areas of the game to complain about?
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 8:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hey, please calm down. grumpdad is only throwing a new twist on what many of us have said all season
We complain when he takes out our 1st string and puts in the backups for garbage time, and now, when grumpdad points out that Coach Pete didn’t have Goodale in there getting real-time real-pressure kicking practice, folks are jumping on him.
I agree with Grumpdad. You can’t become a good pressure-kicker if you never kick under pressure.
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
Yeah, lose once at home, ever and . . .
Fire the coach!!!
Jesus, you should be an SEC fan, one loss and it’s full on stupidity and hatred of one of the finest coaches in college ball.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."--John Heisman
"I'm not upset about the U allegations," tweeted Cleveland Indians closer Chris Perez, who pitched at Miami. "I'm mad we didn't win anything while we were cheating."
Hey, would you please calm down, as well? or were you being sarcastic and I missed it?
Grumpdad didn’t write out of stupidity or hatred. Jeesh. He made a simple (and I believe correct) observation about Goodale’s lack of kicking time in tough situations. Why jump on Grumpdad? He has a right to write.
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
Cant gripe about pete's choice to kick
That’s the no brainer playing the odds versus a long pass, particularly when tcu was doing very well playing in an obvious pass situation.
Tougher calls on:
- unneeded trickeration on second and short
- conservative d in first half
- running that same damn bubble screen twice when you ran it four times against unlv.
To me, those are only gripes with hindsight. Coach Pete and staff cant be reasonably criticized on this one.
by Head of Bone on Nov 12, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Disagree with all of this...
1) don’t need a long ball….just twenty yards closer in two plays.
2) the trick play was a good call, just didn’t work….bet you did’t gripe in the fiesta bowl.
3) our corners got burnt because they were on an island which is about as non-conservative as you can get.
4) You going to complain about an inside dive running play that gets run 12 times a game too?
Those were the only gripes, in hindsight, I had with your post.
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
by TooMuchYoung on Nov 12, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like you forgot to read the last sentence
If you thought that kick might go through from a few yards closer, you were watching the Wrong kick. If you didnt see more blitzing in the second half, then you were watching the wrong game. If you’re talking about 12 “dive” plays, you’re watching the wrong team. More importantly, you missed my point, which is that it is ultimately not reasonable, to question the play calling in this game.
by Head of Bone on Nov 12, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
sorry about the reception you have received here on OBNUG for your first post, grumpdad.
Folks are a little testy this evening. Downright cranky. We are not ususally this unwelcoming, really.
I hope you will consider posting your comments again, perhaps on a less volatile night. Seriously and sincerely.
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
True.
We shouldn’t play badly in the sandbox
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 9:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wide Right
Coaches generally don’t care much for kickers, their to hard to coach. They either have it or they don’t. Some kickers are really consistent until the games on the line. Others miss a bunch but then thrive on the pressure "Game Winners’ and totally redeem themselves. Its to unpredictable, and coaches hate that.
Noel.Diggity says 12,13
I say 15 it may be worse
MrsDiggity.......NO DOUBT
Idaho skies are Blue and Orange
IT"S BW GAME DAY!!!
10
I’m only comparing this loss to last years. They better bump TCU up 8 or 9, because they just beat a really good team, where they haven’t been beat for a long, long time…
i don't think TCU
will make it that far.. they are not even ranked
MrsDiggity.......NO DOUBT
Idaho skies are Blue and Orange
IT"S BW GAME DAY!!!
If we stay in the top 12 and Houston loses to Tulsa...could you still go to a BCS game?
Doesn’t the top non-AQ team in the BCS top 12 automatically go a BCS team?
I dont think so
I think we need to win our conf champ…so we need TCU to lose to CSU or UNLV…Then we would be co-champs. I think. Not sure on that.
"I do not like Nevada" - Myself (11/26//10)
"I do not like TCU...But I do like them more than Nevada" - Myself (11/12/11)
That's not true...
We DO NOT have to win our conference to go to a BCS bowl game. Check the BCS “at-large eligibility requirements”. No conference championship necessary, not even for a non-AQ
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." -The Dude
"If you're always worried that something could blow up on you, you're not going to push the envelope and not going to try new things. Some of the stuff does blow up on us, but the tradeoff is the problems we're creating for defenses when it works." -Chris Petersen
by BroncoInDuckLand on Nov 13, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
I may have missunderstood the comment first time
they may come up the cesspool 8 or 9 spots…
MrsDiggity.......NO DOUBT
Idaho skies are Blue and Orange
IT"S BW GAME DAY!!!
Won't be pretty
It was a close loss, but TCU was unranked with two losses. I’m thinking it’ll be like K State after its second loss – something around 15 to 20.
I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.
Im thinking 12-15
"I do not like Nevada" - Myself (11/26//10)
"I do not like TCU...But I do like them more than Nevada" - Myself (11/12/11)
Underrated
TCU, not being ranked, is just more AQ bias. Their a lot better than their record at this point in the season
On losing
I was at the game and, like most there, lingered long after the final second, stunned by the loss.
But that said, this did not feel nearly so bad to me as last year’s loss to Nevada. Why? Because I believe that last year we really were one of the very top teams in the country and that loss cost us a chance to show that on a national stage.
After this loss, by contrast, I felt that the game pointed out the weaknesses that have plagued us all season and which caught up to us in a big game with a strong opponent. We haven’t played a great home game yet this year. The secondary has been vulnerable, we’ve made costly mistakes, and of course, we have missed kicks. Those flaws were not fatal against lesser teams—against a good one, they proved to be just that.
We’re still a terrific team and will learn a lot from our mistakes, as good teams do.
And I have never been one to blame the kicker—I played high school football with Scott Norwood, who was wide right on the kick that would have won the Super Bowl for the Buffalo Bills in 1991. Whole teams win games and whole teams lose them.
On to San Diego State, which will be a test of our character, coming back after a loss.
Go Broncos!
by Ravdbf on Nov 12, 2011 8:39 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
ABSOLUTELY
THIS THIS THIS !!!!!!!!
MrsDiggity.......NO DOUBT
Idaho skies are Blue and Orange
IT"S BW GAME DAY!!!
LIke I said
The BCS rankings everybody pays so much attention to, is exactly why a lot of fans though it was going to be a walk in the park, Coach Pete, gave no such impression, he knew this was going to be a battle to the end, just like the last two years. Looking forward to a good fight with San Diego St. They can be very dangerous at times
Good comment by Coach Pete
“We don’t watch films of records, we watch films of teams playing.” In other words, he knew how good TCU was going to be.
Anybody notice how much better we are on the road this year than at home? Maybe we should have played TCU in Fort Worth!!
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
Copy that
Here’s a thought: Maybe we should have played the receivers both ways. Its one thing to get burnt once, but twice, I mean three times, e-gad. It’s also true, the Kicker didn’t lose the game, but he did have the opportunity to win it . I don’t see any comments on the punter, oh that’s right, he did what he was suppose to. Maybe we should let him kick PAT’s. None of these things lost the game. They just didn’t help win it. What beat the Broncos was a ballsy call, and I mean the size of Basketballs type of call. A 2 point conversion for a win/ loss instead of a chip shot tie for overtime. Wow, the last time I saw that play was 1983/4 Orange Bowl Neb/Miami and it failed, costing Neb the national title, and handing it to Miami. The difference though, is there was no overtime. For me, it was a “No way there going to go for it moment”, and they did!
It’s something that Patterson picked up over the course of this season. He chose to play for overtime against SMU this season (kneeling the ball with a minute left) and he got burned- I imagine that’s what was on his mind when the opportunity to go for two presented itself.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Nov 13, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
I'm going to San Diego....and it will be a test of my fan-character to be "cheerful".
But 65 degree weather with an ocean breeze will work wonders for my post TCU funk.
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
I have to be cheerful in front of my wife's friends
Yay.
I don't believe in dibs, or love at first sight, or love, or best friends, or doing things.
by marktgarten on Nov 12, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Again...
Comes down to a kicker. And yes you can hold the kicker accountable. He didn’t do the one thing he was put on the field to do. He doesn’t play 60+ snaps a game. He doesn’t run, throw, catch, tackle, block, get hit. He kicks. Maybe 1,000 times a week, and he failed. It’s not throwing the guy under a bus it’s pointing out the obvious. Those young db’s and safeties that got burned 5 times also made tackles,picks, and coverage sacks/stops. I still do not understand how a top 10 program cannot find a guy to make a 27 yarder and now a 39 yarder. DO YOUR JOB!
Sure, I guess....
but I think 90% of us knew he was going to miss it….he isn’t a good kicker and I can;t fathom why we didn’t use the 21 seconds and a timeout to present a more makeable kick or even score?
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
by TooMuchYoung on Nov 12, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
It does not come down to the kicker
and this game would not have if the rest of the team did their job and did not put him in the position to do so. That’s what happened to Brotz last year. REMEMBER a game is never lost by one player it is lost by a team
MrsDiggity.......NO DOUBT
Idaho skies are Blue and Orange
IT"S BW GAME DAY!!!
agree here too
but Brotz had proved over and over again that he could make a 26 yarder and never has Goodale proved he could make a 39 yarder in a game. This is even less on Goodale as it was on Brotz. You are correct in saying that this is a team loss though, in the words of Coach Pete, no question
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
by TooMuchYoung on Nov 12, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
In pain for sure, but props to TCU. Last guy on my sour grapes list is Drew Wright
Dude was kicking ass, and fumbles just happen. Instead:
- was QEB really going for the pick 2 on the last conversion??? How tf does that ball go through your arms? Bat that shyte down!
- was it jonathan brown (much respect) that couldnt hold a fumble dropped softly in his damned lap???? Same to fall on mcllelan’s sweet pitch intercept?
Those are the 2-3 that hurt me most.
And we all pretty much knew the drill on a needed three. We’ve all been worried about that scene all year.
Love my obnug and my broncos. Fandom unfazed.
We have the BEST
coaching staff in the country, and it’s not even close.
Running back depth
Im going to say that my biggest worry is the fact that Doug Martin is still kind of hurt, and dj Harper has an ankle injury. Drew wright as our only option? Also the fact that 3 of our corners were out.
by feelinblue on Nov 12, 2011 8:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Dont blamre drew
Fumbles happen. Ask mitch. And remember when drew was averaging 6 yds a carry on known- run plays, when pulled off the bench in a split second? Oh and am i right that he doesnt (didnt) have a freakin scholarship???
by Head of Bone on Nov 12, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for yet another great game.
Y’all treated us well. Good luck in the future. A lot of us Horned Frogs will be rooting for BSU in the future. And please don’t blame the kicker. He’s just a kid. Anyway, we appreciate the hospitality y’all showed!
Thx, this bsu fan roots for tcu too on any other day
by Head of Bone on Nov 12, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
just like we root for Boise on every other day.
Maybe we’ll meet in Glendale against next season. That’d be sweet.
http://www.frogsowar.com
by Purple Wimple on Nov 12, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
Some of you so-called Bronco "fans" are pissing me off.
Yeah, because of this one game, Coach Pete isn’t good. That’s why AQ programs are lining up every offseason to try to hire him away from Boise, right? Think before you post.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
I question the call to just set up for the field goal
but seriously Coach Pete is the best coach in the world bar none….
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
by TooMuchYoung on Nov 12, 2011 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
we all know how some of the
posers like to stir the pot and drive us lifers NUTS.
MrsDiggity.......NO DOUBT
Idaho skies are Blue and Orange
IT"S BW GAME DAY!!!
I've said it before
I don’t hate the guy and I’m glad he’s our coach, but i’m also not going to treat him like a god. when he screws up. I’m going to point it out. He screwed up today. end of story.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 12, 2011 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody knows
As much as people would like to believe they could do better, no one on the board knows why the call at the end of the game was made. Was somebody dinged up, had the kicker been performing enough better in practice to indicate he could make it, WHO KNOWS. Certainly not any of us. Till you know all the facts you cannot make an intelligent decision. end of story.
no
it’s pretty intelligent to want the ball in your playmakers hands with 20 fucking seconds left! and a frigging timeout! there was no reason to just fall on it and rely on an inconsistent kicker. Pretty sure EVERYONE on this board would pick Kellen Moore in a last minute situation. They’d all say, put the ball in his hands! he makes plays. What do we do? we take it out of his hands. Pure genius. Get off coach pete’s balls already. he fucked up.
"And don't you think it sounds stupid, When some one's treated different cause there not the same as me or you?"
"As time passes by, regrets for the rest of my life."
"I want it, I need it, Revenge is dripping from my teeth."
"Everywhere we turn more hatred surrounds us."
"Too many talk down on things they don't know."
-A7X
by Ihavenofriendzz on Nov 13, 2011 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
Depth in general
This is what all the so called Big Boys are always preachin. BSU is still going through growing pains. It kinda, and I mean Kinda, caught up to us today. We should be saluting the coaches for keeping us as tough as we are. A lot of teams would have had major melt downs. 1 point, and a chance to win is not a melt down.
I would buy this more if
other “big” programs had tons of injuries and then still won games….South Carolina lost after losing Lattimore, if their depth was so much better than BSU then they would have just kept on winning. All programs can succumb to injury, even in the SEC.
The Bulldogs had no answers, so they called timeout. And at that moment, every single person in the stadium knew that Georgia was in over its head. It was instant singularity of Boise State's greatness.
-Kevan Lee
by TooMuchYoung on Nov 12, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Silver Lining
We all should be looking at the bright side. The younger players are getting some game experience, which is crucial when building depth
What Did I Tell You?
OK we lost by one point, Luck just got his Butt kicked by the Ducks it wasn’t even close. So what are bitching about. ? They will drop more than we will.
i wish i could agree....but
Stanford will be ahead of us. They lost to Oregon, #7…whose only loss is to the top ranked team in the country….we lossed, at home, to TCU who is unranked and lossed to SMU…AND Baylor.
Stanford will be ranked above us tomortow.
by KyleWilson01 on Nov 12, 2011 9:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
meh. they were ranked ahead of us before today's game.
"Grateful to the friends and the circumstances that enabled me to be a Bronco. I'm just glad I lived to see these days." SeniorChief
No way Stanford drops more than us.
They’re AQ. That alone will save their butts.
Meanwhile, I’m fully expecting to drop below Houston, just so the establishment can really rub it in.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
I think we should have known this was coming
btw…this is meant tongue and cheek…I love both these kickers.
"I do not like Nevada" - Myself (11/26//10)
"I do not like TCU...But I do like them more than Nevada" - Myself (11/12/11)
First game not having Harsin and Wilcox really hurt us I think.
Pete is a great coach but those two are great coordinators and the loss of them really hurt this team.
It's always interesting to read team blogs after heartbreaking losses like these
For the most part, though, you guys seem like levelheaded fans (I honestly loved the whole “Bronco Nation Loves Kyle Brotzman” thing last year) and you’ve got a lot of class. This is why I’ve got so much respect for Boise State football and Boise State fans as a whole. You’re good people, for sure.
Always sucks to lose like you did today, but you guys have it pretty darn good. I’m a Tennessee fan and I’m sitting here hoping my team can do enough to make it to 6-6 and a bowl game. I miss competing for BCS bowls every year.
"I don't think it's me personally, I really don't." - JaMarcus Russell after losing 38-0 to the Jets
by WhiteWinterHymnal on Nov 12, 2011 9:17 PM PST reply actions
Thanks!
Finally, a classy SEC fan! Maybe you could teach the Georgia troll upthread a few things about class and decorum on another team’s blog.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
I read that post and I am sorry someone with uga in their screen name did that.
I think if you played TCU 3 more times, you all would beat them each time.
I was really hoping for a chance for UGA to get a shot at you again. I think we would have a 50/50 chance at beating you, but I am bias.
I am sorry you all lost. Best wishes for the rest of the season.
by DougMugsDotCom on Nov 13, 2011 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
WhiteWinter
I was just researching something on the SEC the other day and noticed that Tennessee is one of the only SEC teams, that always schedules home & away with good teams. I totally respect that!!! I’m pretty sure LSU will never leave the south this year. I don’t respect that….Go Vols
Either you are a sick f@@@, or
Or it is a sign of respect that you are following a bsu blog. I’ll go with the latter and say cheers!
by Head of Bone on Nov 12, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks man
We have loved the emotional cycle of GA this year and have all followed the Vols since Wilcox joined Dooley (and we watched Dooley give us good gamea a couple of times in the WAC). Bray will heal, the young kids will grow up and you guys outta be pretty good in the following years!
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
I live in hope
Stanford still has to play the big game with Cal next week and Notre Dame, after what I saw tonight they could lose both games.
Speaking of Stanford...
We are so similar to them, it’s scary. I was just reading their blog, and they were talking about injury problems and lack of depth being a major reason they lost. Sound familiar? Plus, we’re both west-coast teams with highly-regarded quarterbacks and good offenses…. although our defense is better than theirs.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Gators // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Of course, it could be that Stanford lost to a better team....
but why let little trivialities get in the way of a good excuse.
by ConfofChamps on Nov 12, 2011 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Hey Nuggies...
…losses bring out the lurkers, huh?
This is the second time I’m writing this…my computer restarted for no reason…so now my long detailed analysis will be short and meaningless because I’m tired and want to go to bed. I only just finished watching 45 minutes ago because I had to DVR the game. So now I’m tired and annoyed.
1. Secondary was bad. Pretty much we’re playing with backups there and we have no depth there as compared to the rest of the team. Weakness was exploited and it cost us more than anything.
2. Lay off Goodale. It shouldn’t have come down to that…but I will say I’ve feared it coming down to a kick all year.
3. Injuries…led to using a 3rd string running back whose inexperience led to a fumble…led to using cornerbacks of the non-shutdown variety…
4. Don’t blame the coordinators…I don’t see that as the problem, especially not on offense. Credit TCU for their athleticism and ability to figure out the weakest links in our defense.
5. Cheer against Houston…we have an outside chance at a BCS bowl if Houston is ranked lower than us. I hate cheering against other non-AQ’s though.
6. Kellen will always be deserving of a Heisman in my book.
7. Tank Carder will always be deserving of armbands in my book.
8. I want out of the MWC. The Big East may give us more losses overall, but one loss won’t eliminate us from the BCS altogether either. Plus it’s fun watching close games, even if the result sucks.
9. I like Tyrone Crawford.
10. Goodnight.
BSU at Rutgers or UConn? I am SO there.
by NYBroncosFan on Nov 12, 2011 9:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Tyrone is a beast
DJ was awesome
Besides a nice catch or two, efaw had a crushing block on tank
Mclellan’s blocked pitch was, shall we say, athletic
Hout’s blitz, you know the one i mean, was quick and deadly
Hightower — freshman safety made to play corner, wtf — had a nice pick
Dallas stepped up and made me dance
Kellen was kellen and matt was matt.
Love my broncos.
by Head of Bone on Nov 12, 2011 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
Your right
What Coach Jim did with Stanford is like what coach Pete did here. Stanford was the doormat of the Pac 10 for years .
#1
Hey, I bet were still the best in the Mountain West Region. 8 states. Kinda makes us big fish in a HUGE pond… :)
I know it is of little consolation...
but, great game, Broncos!
Before the game, I tried to think positively and imagine that the Frogs could win, but I always had a nagging feeling in the back of my mind that it was very likely that it wouldn’t happen. The game was, as Hawkeyed Frog posted, "typical TCU-Boise State" (or Boise State-TCU, depending on where your loyalties lie). I thought TCU might be pulling away in the second quarter. But the Broncos came right back in the second half. And, at the end, I was trying to steel myself to accept defeat just before I watched the kick sail wide right (that’s gotta be just incredibly hard to take for you Broncos, for a second straight year.)
I’m immensely proud and relieved that the Frogs won. I am very impressed by their performance when it really had to happen. Since I don’t get an opportunity to watch the Broncos on a regular basis, other than highlight shows, I am also really impressed by the Broncos’ performance and how they just wouldn’t go away and came close to putting US away. As usual, great game, Broncos. It’s a shame we won’t be able to do this every year but, then again, I think that neither my heart nor my blood pressure could stand this on an annual basis.
Fear the Frog!
don't blame the kicker
I am probably stating the obvious but BS University shouldn’t have even had a chance to kick that field goal. that pass interference call to keep that last drive alive was a horrible call. Congrats to the frogs for playing a heck of a game against a heck of a team. That was a great football game. Oh, and congrats to the BS University fans for staying in the stands for the entire game. I bet there was some serious alcohol withdrawals two minutes into the 4th quarter.
The kicking game
We lost the the game due to injuries to starters and mistakes, but we could of won the game with an easy field goal that our kickers can’t seem to make. Extra points have been a struggle as well. We have a scholarship kicker named Jake Van Ginkel. I can understand not wanting to burn a redshirt, but our other kickers are terrible. Not once has Goodale proven reliable in a game. A football team needs to be able to make field goals. This team has had to go for it on forth downs all year because of lack of kicker faith. This is an unnecessary burden to be placed on our team. You’d think after the Nevada experience, that you’d try to avoid that situation again. This has been a very bad decision. I want to understand, but I don’t. This is a strike against Coach Pete, and I love the guy, but it is what it is!!!!!!!
Eat flaming death ESPN
Your boy gooned it up (Luck) so the Heisman media campaign is shifting back to…James? Your Heisman winner lives in Boise. He makes better decisions, has way better numbers and has been doing it right for 4 years, longer than anyone up for the award. There is nobody who has accompished more against tougher opponents. Call it lifetime achievement if you have too…but he has earned it.
- for Heisman.
I will root for Alabama or Ohio State if they play the Chinese...maybe.
I will root for Auburn if they play Al Qaida, Hamas or the Phillies
Craig Thompson Sunday morning hangover.
BW! Maybe that blue on blue ban was a bad idea? That just cost the conference a bunch o money.
"Kellen Moore has shown the difference between best in the SEC & and best in the Nation" - pjohn56
Kickers and BCS
As I agree the game should not solely blamed on our kicker (looking at you secondary), it’s still heartbreaking, but I also have to point out that I’m wondering if it really is our kicker that is struggling or the kicking GAME. Watch the replay if you can bring yourself to do it. The holder held the laces in. Goodale kicked the laces. I want to know how many kickers out there could kick it straight if you kick the laces. End rant on that.
As far as the BCS goes… the next month will be interesting as we are not officially out. All we have to do is be ranked in the top 12 and above any other non-AQ, we could even be as low as 16 and as long as we’re ahead of the Big East champ we win the automatic non-AQ bid. Last year we dropped to around 10 after the Nevada loss, I figure we’ll do about the same this year. My guess is Houston jumps us and they then control their own destiny, but if they lose one of their last three games against the best competition in C-USA outside of themselves and we win out it is still very much possible that we could still claim that BCS spot, even with one loss and even with potentially not winning the MWC.
We definitely don’t control our own destiny as far as the BCS is concerned, but we still have a chance. Great game Broncos. It was tough and heartbreaking to see, but we will push forward to fight another day. GO BRONCOS!!
I was slightly mistaken. We do have to win the Mountain West conference to be eligible, which would require I believe TCU losing not one but two games because even losing one they’d be tied with us by record, but would have the head-to-head tie-breaker. So here’s to hoping Houston loses one and TCU drops two. Only a minor miracle needed.
Still I say GO BRONCOS!
by BroncoBrad86 on Nov 13, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Blame the kicker?
Well, he missed a FG that other kicker might have made, so you can blame him for that. But didn’t every Bronco fan in the country know he was going to miss? How can you blame him for missing a kick that he simply can’t make? If the coach asks you to do something you can’t do, and you fail, whose fault is it? I put this in the same category with the Alabama -LSU game. After their kicker proved he wasn’t going to make 50 yard kicks, it was Saban’s fault for continuing to run him out there, not the kickers fault for missing them. There were a lot of factors that went into this loss, but I would give Goodale about a 1 in 10 chance of making that kick, so personally, I don’t fault him for missing it.
by Blue and Orange on Nov 14, 2011 7:34 AM PST reply actions

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