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East-West Shrine game preview: Winterswyk, Johnson, Thompson, Venable in action on Saturday

If you need a college football fix, then you're in luck: One-third of Boise State's defense will be in action on Saturday at the East-West Shrine Game. Jeron Johnson, Brandyn Thompson, Ryan Winterswyk, and Winston Venable have been on display all week at Shrine practice, boosting (or not boosting) their draft stock, hazing Nathan Enderle, etc. Practice reports and game information are after the jump. Go Broncos! Go West!

Watch on TV: Saturday, 2:00 p.m. MT, NFL Network

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(Ed's note: This post originally appeared as a FanPost. Thank you to TooMuchYoung for compiling this information and making my job easier. I added additional information where needed. - Kevan)

Jeron Johnson

From CBS Sports' Rob Rang:

Monday: Boise State safety Jeron Johnson eclipsed five-foot-ten, which was no given in scouts' eyes.

From NFL Draft Scout analyst Chad Reuter:

Tuesday: Boise State strong safety Jeron Johnson had some issues in coverage, lacking recovery speed to track down receivers when they got a step on him.

From Sporting News NFL scouting department:

Wednesday: Boise State S Jeron Johnson disappointed throughout drills and did not play with competitiveness or urgency. He was sluggish in transition, repeatedly allowing separation to tight ends and running backs. He also lacks the explosiveness and burst to make plays in front of him.

From Draft Insider:

Tuesday: Looked stiff and struggled in drills as well as scrimmage.  We were told he is having issues with his hamstring.

Wednesday: Another disappointing day.  Was often beat in coverage during scrimmage and in drills.  Did not perform as we expected.

Brandyn Thompson

From Sporting News NFL scouting department:

Wednesday: Although his transition skills are only average, Boise State CB Brandyn Thompson does have a fluid backpedal and flashes the closing speed to make plays on the ball. He showed disciplined technique and is competitive when attacking the ball.

From Draft Insider:

Tuesday: Really looked good.  Quick pedal, smooth in his hips and made a number of really good pass defenses today.

Wednesday: Terrific and by far the best and most complete defensive back on the West. Terrific mechanics and top ball skills.  Broke-up a number of passes and came away with a pick, never getting beaten.

Ryan Winterswyk

From CBS Sports' Rob Rang:

Monday: Boise State Ryan Winterswyk looked stronger and quicker on a couple of snaps until LSU LT Joseph Barksdale used his length to carry Winterswyk around the pocket and into a crowd of scouts lined up behind the play.

From NFL Draft Scout analyst Chad Reuter:

Tuesday: Defensive linemen Ricky Elmore (Arizona) and Ryan Winterswyk (Boise State) gave Barksdale and Hawaii's Laupepa Letuli all they wanted. Though neither are exceptional athletes, their hustle and strength was evident at the point of attack.

From Draft Insider:

Wednesday: Not much of anything.  Could not get off a block in drills and unsuccessfully attempted to speed rush around lineman.  Lined up at defensive tackle during scrimmage.

SBN Vikings blog Daily Norseman reported that the Vikings have been talking with Winterswyk this week.

Winston Venable

From Draft Insider:

Tuesday: Made a few nice plays against the run today.

Wednesday: Showed skill in coverage- or better said, solid sideline-to-sideline range.  Needs work but has an upside.

East-West Shrine game information

Saturday's 86th annual East-West Shrine game takes place at the Florida Citrus Bowl in Orlando, Florida, site of the Champs Sports Bowl and Capital One Bowl. Dan Reeves (East) and Wade Phillips (West) are the coaches, so get ready to facepalm. The game can be seen on NFL Network at 2:00 p.m. MT on Saturday.

East players of note: Tyrod Taylor (Virginia Tech), Ricky Dobbs (Navy), Marvin Austin (North Carolina), Kenny Rowe (Oregon)

West players of note: Nathan Enderle (Idaho), Shiloh Keo (Idaho), Dontay Moch (Nevada), Vai Taua (Nevada), Chris Carter (Fresno), Ben Jacobs (Fresno) , Alex Green (Hawaii)

Fresno DE Chris Carter has been one of the bright spots at Shrine practice. Idaho QB Nathan Enderle has not.

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Kind of a mixed bag

Surprised to hear Thompson is doing the best out of all four. Good for him.

"I did not send you to go-kart camp." - Maury Garner

by Kevan Lee on Jan 20, 2011 9:08 AM PST reply actions  

Where was this guy in the Nevada game.....
Terrific and by far the best and most complete defensive back on the West. Terrific mechanics and top ball skills. Broke-up a number of passes and came away with a pick, never getting beaten.

Head Pounding Desk…. Yep, I guess the scab is still raw and the wounds are still there.

Boise....... State!!!!!!!!!

by rjohnson_jl on Jan 20, 2011 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

Dr. Brandan is apparently playing

and not Mr. Thompson

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Jan 20, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I thought the EXACT same thing.

I’ve resigned myself to thinking that the coaching staff instructed Thompson to play soft. I’ve never seen him continually give that much cushion to ANY receiver.

"Shiloh Keo got a MOUTHFUL of Doug Martin!" - Joe Tessitore

by D_Summit on Jan 21, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Update:

Boise State’s Jeron Johnson were the cream of the crop at the safety position( EDITED OUT ALL REF. TO THAT U of I SAFETY DUE TO RISK OF ILLNESS HERE AT OBNUG). Johnson is the classic free safety who patrols the middle of the field. At the corner position, Boise State’s Brandyn Thompson often blanketed his receivers and picked off multiple bad throws (see: Enderle) by the West team quarterbacks.

—From someone at the practices from the sb nation Jaguars page….

"As soon as they're in the open field, nobody is going to catch them. Doug, even if somebody is right in front of him, he might run him over."
- Travis Stanaway

by TooMuchYoung on Jan 20, 2011 3:58 PM PST reply actions  

This is probably from the same Jaguars blogger..

..he lists MVP for each position and has comments on Swyk, Thompson and Johnson
http://jac.scout.com/2/1041489.html

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Jan 21, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Poor Enderle.

Now the whole world will get to see him be mediocre.

How again did he get the invite?

Championships should be earned on the field, not in newspapers or computers.

by Mikrino on Jan 21, 2011 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

Because he has "NFL size and arm strength"

I so sick of hearing them evaluate every college QB based on size and arm strength. Success at that position, probably more so than any other, is predicated on the use of the gray matter between ones temples.

by Mountngrown on Jan 21, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Right.

But size and arm strength should mean little when even though you can fire a ball through the side of a barn, you only 1 of 10 in actually doing so.

Championships should be earned on the field, not in newspapers or computers.

by Mikrino on Jan 21, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

The amount of minor league baseball pitchers who have fastballs ranging from low 90’s to triple digits is considerable. Very few of these, however, will ever see a Major League roster and even fewer will actually prove to be effective at that level. Just like in a pitcher, a QB’s is more dependent on intelligence, work ethic, accuracy, and any number of other skills.

by Mountngrown on Jan 22, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

In all honesty.

I’ve always thought Thompson had a real chance to make an NFL roster. I really think his skills were overlooked playing along side Wilson most of his collegiate career.

Say what you want about some single game performances, but Boise State still ended 2010 with the 4th ranked passing defense, and Thompson is a big reason why. Besides, If Scandrick was able to work his way into a draft pick, there’s no reason Thompson can’t.

Swyk should have no problems making a team. Maybe in Free Agency, but he will find his way to a roster.

Johnson and Venable will take some angling I think. Johnson to me, is an undersized Taylor Mays, he’ll lay you out and make big hits, but lacked elite skills he’s probably gonna need in th NFL. Not saying he can’t do it, but it will be work. Even so, his upside is huge just like Mays was, so I think he’ll go in the 2,3, or 4th rounds, if not by then, he may go undrafted. Venable will probably make a spot through free agency unless he lights up this game and the combine, I don’t think he gets drafted. I say this becuase I was positive that Ian Johnson would be picked up in later rounds, only to be letdown. I hope Venable is drafted, but I’m preparing for the worst.

Championships should be earned on the field, not in newspapers or computers.

by Mikrino on Jan 21, 2011 8:19 AM PST reply actions  

Not sure if you watched the Steelers-Ravens game last weekend

Pittsburgh DE Brett Keisel was making plays all over the place, in particular rushing from the interior (Pittsburgh’s 3-4 OLBs typically rush from outside). Keisel is 6-5, 285 and played college ball at BYU. Winterswyk’s 6-4, 270, but for whatever reason I just got a very Winterswyk vibe from Keisel. The right coach could find some interesting ways to use him.

"I did not send you to go-kart camp." - Maury Garner

by Kevan Lee on Jan 21, 2011 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you're right

He’ll probably start off on a practice squad, but get him coached up and with his work ethic, I’d be very surprised if we aren’t seeing him on Sundays in a couple of years from now.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Jan 21, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I did watch that game.

Not a bad comparision of the two either.

Swyk has a great “motor”, as they say. Being tenacious goes along way if you don’t possess speed and lack a bit in strength. Although I think Swyk does have enough size to play off the end, he probably lacks top level speed. I say probably becuase I don’t really know. But his motor is like Freeney, Jared Allen, or Julius Peppers. He doesn’t stop coming. Now those are some great defensive ends, and Freeney, aside they have both size and speed, Freeney is small by comparison.

Swyk only needs the opportunity to fit in the right spot. He walked on at Boise State with no scholarship and left an ALL-WAC First Teamer. There’s no reason to think he can’t rise to the challenge again. Maybe I should sit with through the interview process?

Championships should be earned on the field, not in newspapers or computers.

by Mikrino on Jan 21, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

You can be his plus-one at the combine

I love the idea of bringing in a DE to rush from a DT tackle position on passing downs – think New York Giants teams of the past five years. I believe Winterswyk can carve out a niche early in his career in a role similar to that.

"I did not send you to go-kart camp." - Maury Garner

by Kevan Lee on Jan 21, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh I'm not saying he can't make it in the NFL

I just got the shakes thinking about all those nearly uncontested out patterns that were completed to Rishard Matthews after the near miss on the pick six at the end of the first half. There was some soft coverage there, and I’m not quite sure why they didn’t cheat it to the outside and make them go across the middle. I don’t thick the Pack completed a pass across the middle all night. That last touchdown was especially a weak effort, I thought, given that it was in the red zone and there wasn’t that much ground left to cover.

Really, I’ll get over it someday. I’m sure the Rose Bowl wasn’t that cool. My credit cards are thankful that it happened the way it did…..

Now, about those dropped passes on third down, and inability to make one stop in the 4th quarter,…. and Brotzman!!! (Like Seinfeld used to say “Newman”).
The pass to Young at the end might have eclipsed Circus and Statue Left with a straight 26 yard kick.

Boise....... State!!!!!!!!!

by rjohnson_jl on Jan 21, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Somebody explain this to me

East players of note: Tyrod Taylor (Virginia Tech), Ricky Dobbs (Navy), Marvin Austin (North Carolina), Kenny Rowe (Oregon)

by kcam on Jan 21, 2011 8:55 AM PST reply actions  

Whats the problem....

The geography works for me!

Besides counting and geography is for High School… This is College we are way past that.

by Jay Weston on Jan 21, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

lol... I don't know.

But that would explain why a kid from Maryland plays for the West.

And that's another Bronco... FIRST DOWN!!

by FirstDown on Jan 21, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks for gathering these nuggets

I love to see this stuff, but don’t have the time to chase it all down.

Keep it up for Pettis/Young please……

by ElPepeGrande on Jan 21, 2011 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

DVR is set for East West game

As well for all the Senior Bowl practices and game. Damn I love football. I’m ready to watch some BSU players show off what they can do.

"It takes no talent to give great effort" -Chris Petersen
"It's hard to imagine a more complete football team than Boise State" - Kirk Herbstreit

by JRig on Jan 22, 2011 7:17 AM PST reply actions  

Yay! I get to watch football

thought i was gonna be without it until tomorrow….

Noel.Diggity.....NO DOUBT!
Bronco Nation...where the heavens and our hallowed ground are both BLUE!

by Noel.Diggity on Jan 22, 2011 8:07 AM PST reply actions  

Has any one come across a live stream for this game?

I’m at work today but was hoping to catch some of the game on the computer.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Jan 22, 2011 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

Can't find one ANYwhere.

And that means I’ve gone to sites I wish I never had…

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"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
"It takes no talent to give great effort."
"We’re not going to play to the outside noise." -- Chris Petersen
"[Kellen] Moore is a walking Staples® button." -- Ivan Maisel
"I’ve been around football a long time and I’ve never seen a better prepared team than the Boise State Broncos and it was a privilege to watch them play." -- Lou Holtz

by Loque on Jan 22, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The BSU guys have made a few plays

The announcers are impressed with how well the four BSU players are coached. However, they really want us the viewers to know Swyk, Venable, Thompson, and Johnson don’t have an ounce of athleticism.

"It takes no talent to give great effort" -Chris Petersen
"It's hard to imagine a more complete football team than Boise State" - Kirk Herbstreit

by JRig on Jan 22, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

This is right up there

With all those reports of Petersen leaving us to go to an AQ program. He gets a lot of well-deserved props for being an amazing coach, but the press degrades the abilities of our student athletes far too much.

Congratulations TCU for winning the 2010 Rose Bowl
-Little Sisters of the Poor

by TCJohnnyHotPocket on Jan 22, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Winston Veneble

With the interception! I love that guy!

"As soon as they're in the open field, nobody is going to catch them. Doug, even if somebody is right in front of him, he might run him over."
- Travis Stanaway

by TooMuchYoung on Jan 22, 2011 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

Jeron Johnson????

Where is Jeron? I saw him early in the game, but why isn’t he playing? Great interception, Winston! Swyk is in there and pushing hard, as is Brandyn…but what happened to Jeron?

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it. Maya Angelou
BSU changes the BCS! 2011

by boiseblues on Jan 22, 2011 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

dunno if you heard

But after Venable got the INT, the announcer said “Finally somebody from Boise St. does something” and then proceeded to tear down the INT saying it was Dobbs’ fault and Winston was only in the right place. Ugh, may the NFL Network burn for their lack of vision

Congratulations TCU for winning the 2010 Rose Bowl
-Little Sisters of the Poor

by TCJohnnyHotPocket on Jan 22, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Venable had a good game

Made a great open field tackle on an east RB…and instead of lauding him, the idiot announcer said he should have been blocked. The pick was a similar phrase. Venable was always around the ball, as was Keo (whom the idiot loved). No worries – the scouts noticed. Not sure what the idiot’s beef was against BSU players – good coaching doesn’t make a non-athlete into an athlete – an amazingly stupid statement. Swyk was up against a seriously good OT but was always around the ball as well. He almost ran down Taylor from behind at one point and did run down an RB from behind and wrap him up well.

by HSridge on Jan 22, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

He tweeted that he didn't play all that much.

Several reports that his hamstring is bothering him…hope he has a good combine showing!

"As soon as they're in the open field, nobody is going to catch them. Doug, even if somebody is right in front of him, he might run him over."
- Travis Stanaway

by TooMuchYoung on Jan 22, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Indiannapolis Colts blogger comments on Bronco's

From “Stampede Blue”:

Perhaps the most visible player on the night, though, was Boise State linebacker Winston Vernable. I saw Boise State play a handful of times this season and Vernable made noise every time. Again, this is a player that probably doesn’t have a future as an NFL starter and won’t be mistaken for Patrick Willis any time soon, but he’s just a fundamentally-sound, playmaking linebacker. Sometimes, you just have to invest in good football players. Vernable is one of those.

Finally, Idaho SS Shiloh Keo had a beautiful blocked extra point, prompting one of the announcers (forget who) to claim: “he reminds me of Jamie Silva.”

He goes on to say that Thompson played well and that he was really looking forward to the Senior Bowl and Pettis and Young. He opines that Pettis would be a great pickup for the Colts but is afraid he will be gone by mid second round.

by HSridge on Jan 22, 2011 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

More on Pettis from Colts blogger

“Pettis is one of my favorite prospects in this draft. I’ll write more about him later, but it’s just a shame that the Colts probably can’t afford to spend their first-round pick on him, because I’ve rarely seen a player that just screamed “future Colt” more than Pettis did at Boise State. He’ll almost certainly be gone by the time the Pacers pick in the second round, though, so I highly doubt he’s a realistic target."

by HSridge on Jan 22, 2011 9:48 PM PST reply actions  

Decent showing by the Broncos

I am in complete agreement with the comments above how the announcers downplayed the talent of the BSU players.

Venable had the best game out of the four. The kid is just a straight baller. He was always around the ball just like he always is. He had the pick and had a nice return off the INT. Venable deserves a shot somewhere in the NFL. He can play the game. A team just needs to decide where he fits and plug him in.

Thompson did pretty well too. He played pretty much the whole game and played tight coverage on the receivers. You can see the talent is there with Thompson. But we all know the other Thompson can show up and ruin plays. I read on SI “a good forty time at the combine could push him into the draft’s top 100 selections.”

I think Winterswyk did okay. Swyk plays 110% on every single play and that has led to some good success in college. I can’t believe I’m about to say this, but I’m not sure Swyk is quite athletic enough for defensive end in the NFL. He is definitely capable of making some plays here and there and I think he’ll catch on with a team initially….I just don’t know how long it will last.

And last there’s Jeron Johnson. The kid played one series, maybe two. He rode the bench almost the entire game. According to Johnson’s Twitter, he wasn’t hurt, he just didn’t play. Lame-o.

All right, I’m done pretending to be Mel Kiper now.

"It takes no talent to give great effort" -Chris Petersen
"It's hard to imagine a more complete football team than Boise State" - Kirk Herbstreit

by JRig on Jan 22, 2011 10:25 PM PST reply actions  

He said on his twitter account

That he was trying to get his hamstring right…they probably kept him out as a precaution.

"As soon as they're in the open field, nobody is going to catch them. Doug, even if somebody is right in front of him, he might run him over."
- Travis Stanaway

by TooMuchYoung on Jan 25, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I watched the whole game...

but slept through the third quarter. I’m pretty proud of the Bronco players. the fact that the game’s rules didn’t allow press coverage was kind of disappointing. and the cover 1/cover 3 defenses made it pretty basic for any of the qb’s. kind of a boring game after the 1st quarter.

Noel.Diggity.....NO DOUBT!
Bronco Nation...where the heavens and our hallowed ground are both BLUE!

by Noel.Diggity on Jan 23, 2011 9:55 AM PST reply actions  

Basic defense

Typically, that’s how these all-star type of games are played, which I’m sure you know. But the funny part is, despite these basic defenses, none of the quarterbacks were any good. I personally thought Pat Devlin from Delaware was the best and still wasn’t that impressive. From a passing standpoint I thought Jerrod Johnson, Ricky Dobbs, and Scott Tolzien were horrific. I thought Tyrod Taylor looked okay but his game won’t translate to the NFL. Nathan Enderle came in and the announcers credited him for driving the West down the field. The announcers failed to credit the run blocking and running back for driving the West on that one series. Enderle did have a nice touchdown pass to complete the drive but he looked terrible on every other play otherwise.

"It takes no talent to give great effort" -Chris Petersen
"It's hard to imagine a more complete football team than Boise State" - Kirk Herbstreit

by JRig on Jan 23, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

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