BlogPoll Week 2 Draft: Is Boise State the best team in the country?
by MKingery on Sep 7, 2010 5:35 PM PDT
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PrintWith so many cupcakes on the schedule and inevitable sloppy play in Week One, few questions that lingered during the preseason were answered. Boise State seemingly had the best win of the weekend, but is that enough to propel them to No. 1 on their own fan site? You'd think so, wouldn't you.
Weigh in on OBNUG's BlogPoll after the jump, see where the Broncos landed, and give your thoughts on how the final poll should shake out.
Alabama breezed by San Jose St., and the Crimson Tide remain at No. 1. Yes Boise State had the marquee win, but the Tide are the defending champs and should stay atop the poll until someone beats them or until they play a more formidable opponent that can provide a better barometer to measure Alabama's inexperienced defense. The second week of games - and a matchup with Penn State - should give us an answer.
OBNUG Ballot - Week 2
| Rank | Team | Delta |
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| 1 | Alabama Crimson Tide | -- |
| 2 | Boise St. Broncos |  2 |
| 3 | Ohio St. Buckeyes | 2 |
| 4 | TCU Horned Frogs | 2 |
| 5 | Iowa Hawkeyes | 2 |
| 6 | Texas Longhorns |  -4 |
| 7 | Oregon Ducks | 4 |
| 8 | Nebraska Cornhuskers | 6 |
| 9 | Virginia Tech Hokies | 1 |
| 10 | Florida Gators | -7 |
| 11 | Oklahoma Sooners | -- |
| 12 | Miami Hurricanes | 7 |
| 13 | Florida St. Seminoles | -- |
| 14 | Wisconsin Badgers | 2 |
| 15 | Auburn Tigers | -- |
| 16 | Penn St. Nittany Lions | -7 |
| 17 | LSU Tigers | -- |
| 18 | USC Trojans | 4 |
| 19 | Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets | -6 |
| 20 | Utah Utes | -2 |
| 21 | South Carolina Gamecocks | -- |
| 22 | Georgia Bulldogs | -- |
| 23 | Michigan Wolverines | -- |
| 24 | Oregon St. Beavers | -- |
| 25 | North Carolina Tar Heels | -- |
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Also Considered: BYU, Notre Dame, Houston, West Virginia, Oklahoma State Dropouts: Cincinnati Bearcats, BYU Cougars, Pittsburgh Panthers, Mississippi Rebels, Texas Tech Red Raiders, Central Michigan Chippewas, Clemson Tigers, West Virginia Mountaineers |
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SB Nation BlogPoll College Football Top 25 Rankings "
Moving Up:
- TCU - The Frogs also passed their season opening test relying on the legs of Andy Dalton and Co. to get past Oregon State. Ha, frog legs.
- Oregon - Even Justin Corr would not have a facial expression to explain the offensive show the Ducks displayed on Saturday. Hanging 72 is impressive, no matter who it is against. Wilcox and his Volunteer defense will have their work cut out for them this week. And just kidding about the Justin Corr face.
"72 points?! Sweet sassy molassey!" (via assets.sbnation.com)
- South Carolina - Maybe because it was Thursday night and it had been months since I last saw a college football game, but Stephen Garcia and the Gamecocks looked impressive in their victory over Southern Miss.
- Michigan/Notre Dame: Are either of these teams on their way back? RichRod seems to have found a quarterback and Kelly is changing the culture in North Bend. I couldn't rank both, so the winner of next week gets to stay in the poll.
Moving Down:
- Week one rust: Texas, Oklahoma, and particularly Florida didn't look sharp against what should have been overmatched opponents.
- Cincinatti: The Bearcats go from Sugar Bowl participants to two-touchdown losers in "The Valley." Get the motor on the Pat Hill bandwagon warmed up. Where is Graham Watson when you need her? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you, GW.
How would your poll look? Even I am not sure what I was thinking with Iowa at No. 5. Ummmm...did I completely forget about Arkansas? Anybody else? Give your suggestions and influence the final poll.
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I’d think about moving Oklahoma lower – partly due to sheer dislike and partly due to letting Utah State stay with them the way the Aggies did. I like them at No. 11, but I feel like they deserve to fall.
"Please put your fat finger down!" - Lars
congratulations boise on a great win and fresno can do you guys a favor in beating illinois and ole miss.
i think they would have 8 or 9 wins and beating them would be another quality win.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. Utah and Boise take care of business in week one. Don't be surprised if they both go undefeated.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Sep 7, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm
are those arrows on the right accurate? If not, do you have a link to your week 1 ballot? If so:
Oklahoma doesn’t seem to have moved down, and they definitely had a worse game than did Texas.
USC seems to have moved up – this also seems weird.
I dunno about dropping BYU and (adding?) Michigan.
Finally, lol @ VT moving up with the quality loss :).
Overall on the rankings: I’d consider Fresno State. By which I mean consider putting them in the “also considered” box, not actually in the top 25.
Finally, I guess I like that you are keeping 0-1 teams in the top-25 who faced quality opponents, its just a little jarring. And Auburn seems a little high. And, again, Michigan should not be ranked yet. But otherwise awesome!
The arrows are from the week 1 (preseason) ranking
but the preseason ranking was simply a rehash of the final 2009 AP poll so the movement is largely irrelevant.
I feel an 0-1 team that lost by 3 to the team ranked 2nd in the poll certainly belongs in the poll. Top 10 could be debated, but a team should not be penalized just because they did not schedule a cupcake the first game of the year.
Auburn does feel too high at 15. Teams 14 through 30 could are all close. I could see Auburn at #30, but that also goes for Utah, Michigan, Oregon State et al. Look for there to be a lot more movement over the first several weeks as more teams reveal themselves with their resume.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
ah cool
I didn’t even think you guys were doing the BlogPoll this year because I don’t remember seeing the first post, so I was unsure.
And ya, it actually seems fairly pointless to really be debating much of this when its only been one week, and only a handful of teams played anyone of any significance.
That said: still weird that BYU drops out while Michigan jumps in. Although, really, thinking about it, UConn is probably fairly comparable competency-wise to UDub, and Michigan had the better win. Ok, never mind. I still think Auburn is too high, but other than that, this is all good :).
after watching your defensive secondary last night
I wouldn’t put you at #2 in the nation
I’d put Oregon ahead of you, simply b/c they’re win was that dominant
they didn’t blow a 17 point lead in their game
You moved Nebraska up a lot after what Nebraska fans told me was a worrisome performance by their defense.
The winner of the FSU-OU and Bama-Penn State games will both be ranked higher than Boise next week, and deservedly so.
Aren't they already ahead of Boise State?
The two winners you are talking about are the number 1 team in the country and the number 2 team in the country. That isnt much of a point.
OU = Oklahoma. The team that is ahead of Boise State is the Ohio State University = tOSU (possibly OSU, if you aren’t reading a snarky blog).
well
Well, if Bama wins, they definitely deserve to be ranked higher than Boise. I suppose, by that same token, possibly also for Penn State, although that is much more arguable.
But thats just stupid about the FSU-OU winner. Its stupid because it won’t happen, and its stupid because it shouldn’t happen. I could go into detail, but its not really worth it.
I disagree
Niether FSU or penn State should jump boise
My outlook:
OU, out of the top 10. USC, out of the top 20. UF, out of the top 15, LSU, out of the top 25. First week jitters, I can understand, but not against the type of opponents these guys faced. You need to be more punishing against these teams, because they should be earning their ranks. Particularly LSU. Do you really think they should be ranked at all?
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
"It takes no talent to give great effort." -- Chris Petersen
"[Kellen] Moore is a walking Staples® button." -- Ivan Maisel
the trojans allowed 588 yards to hawaii. enough said.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. Utah and Boise take care of business in week one. Don't be surprised if they both go undefeated.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Sep 7, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Who would you add if LSU is dropped?
I am not sold on LSU either, but no one else below them had a particularly impressive win. I gave UNC a free-pass at #25 since I thought they were top 10 before the suspension and they nearly pulled off the LSU win.
I didn’t see the OU game, but I gave them the benefit of the doubt since I feel Utah St could be more pesky than Miami Ohio and Rice.
Not sure of what to make of USC. Their defense looked worse than horrible, but they are still uber talented. I would be comfortable moving them out based on the defense against Hawaii and let them prove something this week.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
the thing with this is
Florida completely shot themselves in the foot offensively against Miami. Their defense was pretty dominant. Rice may well be worse than Utah State (god, as an alumni of Rice, that hurts to type), but Texas was never in any danger of losing. OU could have lost that game against Utah State, and OU’s defense gave up 341 yards passing to Borel. In other words, Florida had a strength (defense) and Texas had a strength (never in danger of losing), while OU had neither of those strengths. USU might be slightly better than the other teams, but OU had the most complete team-wide failure of either of the other two “good” teams.
My wife is a Rice grad
From her I learned that Rice is higher ranked than Cal in US News college rankings.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
Everytime I make fun of Owl Football, she brings up baseball
Of course, Rice is one of the few in-conference teams that beat Boise State over the past decade.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
man
I was so conflicted when I was at rice when they played BSU. On the one hand, it was BSU. On the other hand, I was like a 19 year old from Idaho in Houston, and all my friends were adamant about tailgating and cheering on our football team (which I had also done, and continued to do, for every other game). To my credit (?) I did end up cheering for BSU and pissing off all my friends. But still.
OU struggled
The sooners were on te verge of losing that game. Wouldn’t that be sweet?! Getting beat by another WAC team LOL!
Bronco's Best Team in the Nation?????
Please winning 1 game against an overrated Virginia Tech and just barely pulling that out. Boise needs to play at least 5 top 25 teams with 2 of them being in the top 10 before saying they are the best team in the country. Granted they are good but could they remain undefeated in a real conference. Please the WAC. No wonder they go undefeated each year. The WAC is even worse than the MWC, which has 3 good teams being UTAH, TCU and BYU. I just don’t understand the hype. Look at your schedule Bronco’s it’s soft, no you should not be rated in the top 10.
yawn
Come back with a new argument please.
by hummerofdoom on Sep 7, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You fundamentally misunderstand what the rankings are ranking. Rankings are not based solely on records, but on which teams the voters believe are the “best” teams. Lots of voters think that the Broncos are one of the best teams in the country even though they play in the WAC. Deal with it.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
and what team does what you're asking Boise to do?
Let the Media's excuse begin...again: "It was Boise State's first game of the year!" whilst completely ignoring that it was VaTech's first game, as well.
by TheShrewdOne on Sep 7, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
What Teams
SEC, PAC 10, BIG TEN need I go on
Yes, please...
…who will be playing 5 ranked teams (with 2 of them in the top 10)?
As one Oregon Duck fan so graciously opined, Ice Water shall henceforth be known as Kellen Juice.
by TheShrewdOne on Sep 7, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
preferably without including a conference that has a member team lose to a 1-AA team...
…but if you can’t find any that suit you, go ahead and include the SEC with their mighty, mighty Ole Miss (question…when is the last time a WAC team lost to a 1-AA team?).
As one Oregon Duck fan so graciously opined, Ice Water shall henceforth be known as Kellen Juice.
by TheShrewdOne on Sep 7, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
1-AA
Most Teams in the WAC would be considered 1-AA.
nice non-answer...speaking of which, didn't Tennessee lose to Wyoming not too long ago, as well?
And how was Florida’s game this week against a 1-11 team?
As one Oregon Duck fan so graciously opined, Ice Water shall henceforth be known as Kellen Juice.
by TheShrewdOne on Sep 7, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Bronco Hype
I’ve seen this all before. BYU and the glory years. But you know what! Who did they really play in their conference? Answer no one. Yes they can get up for the big games just like Boise but could they sustain it week after week. Don’t think so.
The truth
The simple fact is that many teams have ducked Boise for years, They use the lame excuse that the Bronco’s stadium doesn’t hold emough people to justify their time to go and play there. Boise would gladly go on the road to play anyone anywhere. TRUTH is that they didn’t want to get beat!
Reality Guys
Look I am not bashing BSU. They are a good football team but look at the conference opponents. They stink. Why is the WAC and MWC not in the BCS? It’s called strength of Schedule.
It's called 6 votes to 5...simple as that.
As one Oregon Duck fan so graciously opined, Ice Water shall henceforth be known as Kellen Juice.
by TheShrewdOne on Sep 7, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Said for you but true
BSU won’t be in the Title Game.
Strength of Schedule
First off I understand that BSU could probably not go unscathed in most of the BCS conferences. However, BSU would be more than happy to play in those conference but those conferences refuse to let them in. Also, last year BSU talked with 15-20 of YOUR BCS schools about playing games and didn’t get any takers.
SOS issimply computers and people who make up who the media say are the best teams. SOS like RPI is a bunch of garbage.
So there are a few issues here. First they would play more BCS teams if those teams would play them. However, those team won’t because if they lose to BSU and then lose a conference game they are toast. Read Gobbler Country and you will see how VT feels about the loss. Second, BSU can only do what is given them. They would play a tougher schedule if they could but who prevents this? BCS conferences.
So quit your whining and tell YOUR schools to man up. All of your arguments point to YOUR own schools in the BCS being at fault for what has occurred. Time and Time again with one game on the line BSU has taken care of those BCS schools.
What yall played was a basically 3-4 loss VT team....(Frank Beamer isnt the world's best big game coach, kinda like Bob Stoops)
Got all the love in the preseason, just like Ole Miss did last year for some reason, and they weren’t a good football team, and on top of that, nor were they a well coached football team.
The reason most teams won’t play a home and home is money. Why spend money to go play in front of 30k fans, when you can play for well over 100k fans, week in and week out?
I didnt see why a middling ACC team is the gauge of anything special. When we were coming off a 7-5 season and Clemson was ranked number 3 of all things, we found out really quick how “great” Clemson turned out to be. Lets let things shake out til about Oct 16th and then we will see how good this “win” over VT turns out. I know Boise St fans will be pulling for VT to go undefeated the rest of the way to prove how “good” this win is, but more times than not, VT will let you down, about 3 more times with Georgia Tech, Miami and Virginia, possibly Boston College….Enjoy the win, and hopefully we will see ya in the BCS.
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain
by mrpelicanpants on Sep 8, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
the why didnt they do this?
http://www.examiner.com/nebraska-cornhuskers-in-lincoln/will-boise-state-accept-osborne-s-offer
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain
by mrpelicanpants on Sep 8, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I didnt click on the link but if its the 2 for 1 offer...
Boise is looking for a home and home series, our AD has said he will pay anyone as much money as they will pay us to come and play in Boise.
The problem is no team wants to, or I should say the AD’s of those schools dont want too.
Why would you? (BCS teams play Boise) Its not a given that you will lose but there is certainly a higher statistical chance that a team like, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, will be more worried about losing than they would be when facing a FCS team. Losing to Boise, right now, in the current perception of the media is about as worse as it gets for a AQ team.
Now I think that if that perception changes (Saying Boise becomes a continual top 10 team) then teams will be more willing to play us. That way if they were to lose it would be “They lost to Boise, consistent top 10, so its okay” and not Oh its lil ol’ Boise State, the team that could.
Shake It Kid
Pay attention
ONCE again! You can’t blame the team because noone wants to play them
haha
ask cincinatti if fresno state stinks, ask usc if hawaii stinks, ask oklahoma if utah state stinks haha, with all due respect, you smell like a georgia fan sir. if we can get a big team to play us, we jump at the chance. We dont even require a home game to reciprocate! and i gotta say that we do sustain things week after week regardless of opponent. its been 111 years since any team has had a better 8 year run than us, quit hatin sir.
Been smokin that Blue since '00
Smoking to much of that stuff.
You have got to be kidding me. If you think for one minute the teams you have mentioned are even considered contenders you need to do some research my friend
So now we're talking about contenders...not just good teams...
…so 8 SEC now don’t count…7 BIG10 Teams, 8 PAC-10 Teams…the entire ACC and Big East…and 9 Big 12 teams.
As one Oregon Duck fan so graciously opined, Ice Water shall henceforth be known as Kellen Juice.
by TheShrewdOne on Sep 7, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Big East< MWC
the AQ situation can’t last much longer as it makes no sense.
Been smokin that Blue since '00
Bowl Teams
Let’s see how many of those teams go to a bowl this year.
I envy you.
It takes guts to show your true fear of Boise’s inclusion into the national discussion by getting onto an internet blog to try to downplay their success. Cheers to you, my friend.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
"It takes no talent to give great effort." -- Chris Petersen
"[Kellen] Moore is a walking Staples® button." -- Ivan Maisel
this guy
hahaha sir, since you sound like a plain old hater, i will not take you seriously anymore, especially after you use research as your platform! If you knew your history and did your research, you would see the signifigance and magnitude of the best 8 year record since 1898. you would also recognize the pimp juice that BSU has and the opportunities they create for themselves. silly guy, you cant imagine how nasty we would be if we could recruit whoever and were in a larger conference since the 1800s. We dont let that be an excuse however and we cream every conference we join. I hope you are still around when boise state is a repeat champion of a large conference and a title contender year round. I say that because you sound a bit dated sir
Been smokin that Blue since '00
big oskey joined yesterday
was born the night before. unabashed hater is all.
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
Just bitter because his team is never going to go anywhere
I would be bitter too if my team was middle of the pack in whatever conference and never got any props for anything. We only can do what the big boys will allow us to do. And so far that is WIN. We would take an invite into a bigger conference anytime. We could probably improve any conference more than his team is improving the conference
Amen
For the record I am a lifelong Longhorn fan. HOWEVER if they played Boise I’d have a really serious piece of advice for them. The second you don;t respect the Broncos you can turn around watch the officilas raising their arms as boise scores on you. Either that or turn around and see your QB laying flat on his back! ( I wonder if Dalton is still feeling that hit ?)
We've seen this movie. We know how it ends.
I shall remind the readership that this game was originally to be played the first part of October, and almost all of us were (bw) when it was moved to Labor Day. Why? Well, consider. We beat Oregon, who want on to prove their mettle. What did the media say? we beat a good tem? No, Oregon wasn t ready. If Oregon ha dgoen on to be lousy, they’d ahve said we beat a lousy team. Same with Va Tech. If they win, we will have played them before they were ready (on nat’l tv, in front of 70k+ of Hokie fans).TCU was getting all props last year incl NCS talk. We beat them and -meh.
I’m not bmad; just bored with this same old same old. (bw) Mark May
tvmunson
Pretty soon, the headlines will read....
“Boise St. under NCAA investigation for PED scandal.” Simply because they have fast white guys….
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain
by mrpelicanpants on Sep 8, 2010 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Hadn't thought about that Mrpel. Did they kick to Burroughs because they saw his pale white (bw) and figured "slow"?
Last year I’m convinced that Wilson, he of the chiseled look, dreadlocks, they just looked at him and said “kick away from that dude”.
tvmunson
I hadn't thought about that in all reality Munson, we should start to see better punt returns
from opposing teams now that they arent scared to kick it back there, or at least a greater chance of having a big return like burroughs did.
Now if TY gets back there, thats a different story.
Shake It Kid
Beavers
I love that you got the Beavs in your Top 25 – their close loss to TCU was the second best game of the weekend and the defense looked good
And shame on you for not putting Boise at #1 – no one would fault you for it, and if Alabama loses to Penn State I will be very disappointed if the Broncos are not your #1.
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Hey USC fans!
In case any of the fans of the Univ. of Spoiled Childen are here. Its a good thing you’re on 2 years probation. You guys damn lost to Hawaii! SC looked really bad. Can’t wait till they play a good team LOL I think Minnesota will beat them
James Madison beat VT
So how does your win look like now.
Still epic, if you ask any lover of college football
But if you’re a big hater looking for excuses, then I guess I can see your perspective (ie. get a life).
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
"It takes no talent to give great effort." -- Chris Petersen
"[Kellen] Moore is a walking Staples® button." -- Ivan Maisel
Boise, No Respect
Lou Holtz said it best today. Boise gets no respect. He doesn’t think you guys can sustain week after week against the big boys.
Schedule Last 8 years
I have looked at your schedule for the last 8 years and I am wondering who you have played. Most Decent Teams you have played which isn’t many you have lost too. I don’t see one top 10 team in your last 8 years of regular season.
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