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Boise State depth chart versus Wyoming: Let the offensive line carousel begin!

The Broncos are back in action on Saturday night against Wyoming with a group that looks pretty much the same as the one that beat Virginia Tech. Does that mean that there isn't some speculative presuming to do with the team's newly released depth chart? Of course not. Speculation knows no season.

After the jump, discuss what's happening along the offensive line, give your take on the Boise State wide receiver situation, and debate whether or not Doug Martin has a fumbling problem. Perish the thought! Let's discuss.

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Z - 2 Austin Pettis 6-3 203 Sr.
20 Mitch Burroughs 5-9 188 So.
82 Geraldo Hiwat 6-4 195 Fr.

X - 1 Titus Young 5-11 175 Sr.
3 Chris Potter 5-9 160 So.
18 Aaron Burks 6-2 187 Fr.

H - 89 Tyler Shoemaker 6-1 215 Jr.
20 Mitch Burroughs 5-9 188 So.
29 Tyler Jackson 6-0 199 So.

LT - Nate Potter 6-6 300 Jr.
78 Charles Leno, Jr. 6-3 272 Fr.

LG - Joe Kellogg 6-2 299 So.
55 Chuck Hayes 6-2 289 Jr.

C - 66 Thomas Byrd 5-11 281 Jr.
79 Bronson Durrant 6-3 264 So.

RG - 59 Will Lawrence 6-2 291 Sr.
61 Joe Kellogg 6-2 299 So.

RT - 72 Matt Slater 6-4 267 Sr.
64 Brenel Myers 6-2 272 So.

TE - 85 Tommy Gallarda 6-5 259 Sr.
80 Kyle Efaw 6-4 232 Jr.
88 Chandler Koch 6-2 238 So.
87 Gabe Linehan 6-3 233 Fr.

QB - 11 Kellen Moore 6-0 191 Jr.
7 Mike Coughlin 6-5 221 Sr.
or 15 Joe Southwick 6-1 195 Fr.

RB - 22 Doug Martin 5-9 212 Jr.
27 Jeremy Avery 5-9 174 Sr.
or 6 D.J. Harper 5-9 208 Jr.

FB - 47 Dan Paul 6-0 241 Jr.
42 Jake Hess 5-10 227 So.

E - 98 Ryan Winterswyk 6-4 270 Sr.

96 Jarrell Root 6-3 257 Jr.
or 40 Tyrone Crawford 6-4 275 Jr.

T - 90 Billy Winn 6-4 288 Jr.
43 Ricky Tjong-a-Tjoe 6-3 292 Fr.

N - 97 Chase Baker 6-1 295 Jr.
99 Michael Atkinson 6-0 327 So.
50 J.P. Nisby 6-1 301 Jr.

SE - 92 Shea McClellin 6-3 254 Jr.
96 Jarrell Root 6-3 257 Jr.
or 41 Kharyee Marshall 6-1 212 Fr.

MIKE- 94 Byron Hout 6-0 223 Jr.
52 Derrell Acrey 6-1 238 Sr.
33 Tommy Smith 6-1 228 So.

WILL- 36 Aaron Tevis 6-3 232 Jr.
or J.C. Percy 6-0 217 So.

S 23 Jeron Johnson 5-11 198 Sr.
30 Travis Stanaway 5-11 191 Jr.

S 8 George Iloka 6-3 209 Jr.
16 Cedric Febis 6-3 204 Jr.

N 17 Winston Venable 5-11 220 Sr.
25 Hunter White 5-11 217 Jr.

CB 21 Jamar Taylor 5-11 191 So.
4 Jerrell Gavins 5-9 174 Jr.

CB 13 Brandyn Thompson 5-10 177 Sr.
37 Ebo Makinde 5-11 171 Fr.
31 Antwon Murray 5-11 170 Jr.

Kickers

Returners

PK - 35 Kyle Brotzman 5-10 197 Sr.

84 Jimmy Pavel 5-9 221 So.

KO - 35 Kyle Brotzman 5-10 197 Sr.
84 Jimmy Pavel 5-9 221 So.

HD - 2 Austin Pettis 6-3 203 Sr.

P - 35 Kyle Brotzman 5-10 197 Sr.
49 Brad Elkin 6-2 202 Sr.

SNP - 94 Byron Hout 6-0 223 Jr.
or 44 Chris Roberson 6-0 226 So.


KR - 4 Titus Young 5-11 175 Sr.
22 Doug Martin 5-9 212 Jr.

PR - 20 Mitch Burroughs 5-9 188 So.
or 1 Titus Young 5-11 175 Sr.

 Disclaimer: Depth charts mean as much as you want them to mean. Keep in mind that things change over the course of a game week and that game situations, injuries, and performance will render some of this depth chart moot. Still, it's fun to speculate ... with hyperbole! Matt Slater is the second coming of Tad Miller!

Boise State now two-for-two with games and offensive line combinations

Not that fans should expect any different, but the Broncos are well on their way to continuing the trend of never having the same offensive line start consecutive games. Those poor fairweather fans aren't going to be able to keep up at this pace.

This week's change comes at right tackle with Matt Slater stepping in for Brenel Myers. I have no problem with Slater getting the start, especially after his smooth performance in relief of an injured Myers on Labor Day night. What concerns me is this: Wasn't Brenel Myers the next Ryan Clady? 

The question might be irrelevant if the switch happened due to the lingering effects of Myers's injury against the Hokies. But media reports aren't spinning it that way. Myers is healthy, according to those in the know, so it would appear that Slater has passed him up on the depth chart based on effectiveness. Keep in mind, Slater was toiling at guard during spring and fall camp because there was no room for him at tackle. My how quickly things change.

Of course, if I'm wondering what has happened to people, I should probably be asking about Faraji Wright who was left off this week's depth chart entirely after finding himself as the starting tackle on the last version. Wright missed the Virginia Tech game with an injury, although not a serious one if I remember right. For someone who had passed Charles Leno by the end of Fall Camp, it is strange to see Leno's name as Nate Potter's first backup and Wright nowhere to be found. Let's hope it's injury-related and that Wright gets to have an impact before long.

Nate Potter with rare trifecta: Sack allowed, fumble forced, Boise State offensive lineman of the week award

Quick: Name the best Boise State lineman from the team's win over Virginia Tech. Would you have gone with Potter? Chances are that you are like me and distinctly remember Potter coming out of his stance like Dick Tomey when he allowed a first half sack to Virginia Tech's Steven Friday. Well, you and I are wrong because Boise State coaches thought so highly of Potter's play that they named him the lineman of the week. An award like that speaks to the great effort Potter had on the offense's other 60 plays. Because if it's mistakes that get you awards, then Thomas Byrd has an especially egregious fumbled snap planned for next week.

Not even poorly timed fumbles can keep Doug Martin from being Boise State's No. 1 running back

When Doug Martin put the ball on the turf against Virginia Tech, I thought to myself, "Oh, so this is why Martin hasn't been the team's starting running back until now." Fumbles are a ticket straight to mop-up duty, and this was Martin's second in as many games.

"Whatever," said the Broncos. Coaches obviously think highly enough of Martin's abilities to overlook his Adrian Peterson syndrome. If it happens for the third time in a row this weekend, though, I bet we start hearing some folks getting restless. Brian Murphy, perhaps?

Here's something to impress your friends with: The Big Four

If you think special teams are a big fat waste of time, then you probably won't like this new concept. It is called The Big Four, and it refers to Boise State's kickoff coverage, kickoff return, punt coverage, and punt return teams. When I re-watched the Virginia Tech game, I did my best to chart who showed up on what unit. I thought it might give us fans a little better taste of the Bronco players who go unsung on special teams.

Here is the list of players who were on three units of The Big Four.

A haiku to Tommy Smith

Special Teams demon

Linebacker of the future

I want to be you

Where does Boise State turn for its extra defensive back?

When Boise State needs an extra defensive back on obvious passing downs, where does it turn? You would think that the Broncos would call in Jerrell Gavins who was the team's nickel corner last year and competed with Jamar Taylor for the starting corner spot all fall. But did anyone see Gavins on the field on defense against the Hokies?

I saw more of Cedric Febis than I did Gavins, but I couldn't tell if Febis was on in relief of Jeron Johnson or if Febis was playing as a third safety to help against the pass. It could be that Febis was a better fit against the bigger receivers of the Hokies. It could be that Febis has passed Gavins on the secondary depth chart. It could be that I wasn't watching the game properly and am way off base on all of this.

Thoughts?

So long, Kirby Moore. Hello, Mitch Burroughs?

The Broncos would like to redshirt Moore this season because the depth at wide receiver is about as deep as they come. Part of that depth: Mitch Burroughs, the one wide receiver whom fans have had the toughest time embracing. With Moore's departure, Burroughs steps in as the No. 2 receiver behind Tyler Shoemaker, the same position he holds behind Austin Pettis. Looks like we'll be seeing more of Burroughs in coming weeks.

Derrell Acrey is back, but Byron Hout is starting

The Hout-Acrey debate was answered soundly in the season opener when Acrey did not even step on the field due to an ankle injury. Byron Hout made the best of his opportunity with a solid performance (and Tommy Smith played pretty well, too), and he was rewarded with a spot in the starting lineup this week - a spot that I don't see him giving up any time soon.

Derrell Acrey will be back this week against the Cowboys, but how much of an impact will he have? How much playing time do you think he'll see? Boise State's linebackers looked pretty excellent against the Hokies, and it's hard to mess with a good thing. Then again, you have to assume that a full speed Acrey makes the linebacking corps even better. Scary thought, no?

Yes, Winston Venable still exists

Venable did nothing against the Hokies, and I mean that in a box score kind of way. He is still the starting nickelbacker this week, so that rules out any injury worries. Expect him to have more of an impact against Wyoming.

Injury update

There isn't one. Thanks, local media.

What keeps special teams coach Jeff Choate up at night? Adrenaline and field goal protection

When you miss a gimme field goal and give a team second life with an unnecessary penalty, it is not hard to find stuff to work on the following week. Jeff Choate's thing? Field goal protection.

The Broncos had an extra point stuffed (seemingly by big guys up the middle, but it was hard to tell), which is not something you see every day. Hopefully, the fix is something simple, like sticking Michael Atkinson and Ricky Tjong-A-Tjoe in the middle and having them stand there.

Miscellaneous

  • Is Ryan Winterswyk 100 percent? Boise State's not saying. Winterswyk had a relatively quiet night against the Hokies, made even quieter by the rock concert of Shea McClellin at the other defensive end. His bright blue leg wrap made him appear to be not at full strength. We'll see if a couple weeks off has made the difference.
  • Is Jeron Johnson 100 percent? He was the bigger worry prior to the game, but he looked solid all night and led the team in tackles. I'm sure he'll play against Wyoming. How much might be the better question.
  • Michael Ames is done for the year after having shoulder surgery. So go ahead and pencil him in for starting tackle in 2011 because that's how the Boise State O-line rolls.
  • Kyle Brotzman did not come out for Boise State's final kickoff of the game against the Hokies. Jimmy Pavel did. Whether that was due to Brotzman's kickoffs getting shorter and shorter as the game went on or a potential injury that he suffered when he was steamrolled on the punt block prior to halftime, no one's saying. It will be interesting to see if Pavel takes the field for any kickoffs on Saturday.
  • I'm not sure if this is the place for this, but I'll say it anyway. I expected the Broncos to come down harder on running backs coach Keith Bhonapha and his DUI. Bhonapha is back to normal duties already. Perhaps the school handled it harsher internally, but no one knows. DUI's are serious stuff, especially when you are a leader of young men.

Your turn

Happy with the Broncos' offensive line group against Wyoming? Think Brenel Myers will win back his starting job eventually? Any worries about Doug Martin's fumble problems? Share your thoughts in the comments.

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by tmunson on Sep 14, 2010 9:01 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought we switched Young and Pettis on one play.

Missed Young, but announcers noticed VT was confused. Couldn’t see it, but Pettis was at X and Young at Z

tvmunson

by tmunson on Sep 14, 2010 9:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Doug M off kickoff / punt coverage?

I did not notice 22 (ball seeking missile) on coverage during VT game? Product of being the starting Tailback?

by HammaT on Sep 14, 2010 9:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Tommy Smith-my "sleeper" on D; killer on spec teams. I think 'Swyck was "dinged" for game not 100%.

Missed Pavel on final kickoff; given significance of that kick, one wonders. Acrey-best all around IMO, 2nd on depth may reflect slightly “dinged” status or Coach Pete’s prove it on the field mentality. You note when someone’s out, whether for injury or whatever, replacement often (not always) remains ahead on depth chart. acrey was out; Hout did well (penalty was close IMO). If Ames plays next eyar we need special award for him; going on mission, returns, puts in weight room time to get on O-line, gets hurt, plays, gets hurt (repeat-I don’t know how many times). I dont’ recall anyone this persistent in Boise State history, made more so because the linemen, and especailly O-line types, have most difficult rehab IMO. They cant’ workout as a rule,so they lose muscle, then once rehabbed have to gain it back w/o putting on “fat”. Tall order; few make it in my experience.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Sep 14, 2010 9:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Febis-big, hard hitting safety-type; Jarrell clearly CB-he's maybe 5' 7" if you count some air.

My gut says Cedric’s being in was a VT deal. Although given Broncos penchant for designing D based on personnel maybe Febis will be the extra; he’s fast, and when he hits, you stay “hit”.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Sep 14, 2010 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

A few thoughts...

I too didn’t notice a whole lot of Winston Venable against VT. Perhaps it had to do with VT’s style of offense?

Was surprised to hear that the coaches going to try and redshirt Kirby Moore. It makes sense with all the depth we have a wide receiver – but still it’s still surprising to me.

Glad to hear the coaches are keeping Doug as the #1 back. I think he is the most consistent & hardest runner of the three. Avery and Harper give a nice change of pace from Doug.

Lastly, it’s easy to jump on Potter for allowing the sack and helping to cause one of our fumbles, but I’d like to give the kid some credit. He’s been playing guard all spring and fall camp and then gets tossed back to tackle the week before the Virgina Tech game and had to face their best returning defensive lineman.

by Drofdarb23 on Sep 14, 2010 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Kirby-Moore I think about it Moore I like it.

He had frosh year with brother to motivate and focus him. Will still have Ke’s senior year. With what he brings to the table he probably has a better chance of getting Moore quality palying time next year when depth chart empties out with departure of AP and TY. We have a surfeit of bigger WRs with good hands. If he was a TY type I’d question it Moore.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Sep 14, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Moore puns

Is there an end to the Moore puns? I think not… Do they ever get old? I think not!

Someday I hope to look in a mirror and see something special... something like a coach pete protoge'.

by BigBaloo on Sep 14, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Notes from the game

From the Diago Dream seats at the VT game;

Winston & Jeron both appeared to have ankle issues during the VT game. Winston actually sat on the sideline allot. Jeron got re-taped but sat out a few series. Winston’s injury appeared worse than Jeron’s during the game. WInston was limping all game on the sideline.
Corner Back play from my field level seat both Brandon & Jamar were beaten on 80% of the pass plays. Jamar kept letting his player run by him like he expected the safety to always be deep. QB Taylor lofted too many of his throws for there not to be an interception. Didn’t those passes just seem to hang in the air forever? I think the CB competition for both spots opened back up to everyone last week & this week.

Review the game again – Shea had an excellent game but a few times he benefitted from Billy destroying his man up the middle which forced Taylor to start moving to the outside. Billy Winn was fired up from the start of the game.

Martin & DJ’s running style of hitting the hole is why both are getting the nod over Avery. You hit the hole fast you are more likely to run through arm tackles – YAC. Go back and look at the YAC. BSU will need this against Wyoming’s Defense which is very hard hitting & disciplined.

by Bluesport on Sep 14, 2010 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Good analysis
Didn’t those passes just seem to hang in the air forever?

Yes, they did, which further magnifies just how far away Boise State’s coverage was from the receiver. Closer coverage, more intereceptions, probably.

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by Kevan Lee on Sep 14, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

McClellin is a stud

No doubt both defensive ends benefit from BSU’s unprecedented strong tackle play (well, maybe ‘06 with Browning and Ellis—much better depth in ’10). McClellin, however, showed his amazing agility and speed on one play when he ran down Taylor for a sack after pursuing him from the opposite side of where he lined up and the QB ran. Joe Southwick, a very mobile QB, can probably give us an idea of McClellin’s quickness after trying (and rarely succeeding) to avoid him in the spring and summer camps.

by statguy on Sep 14, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now imagine...

what it is going to be like for opposing QB’s when Swyk gets back to full speed and they have a crazed animal with blood in his eyes in relentless pursuit from both DE spots. Nathan Enderle is going to be rolled up into a fetal position, sucking his thumb, and having nightmares for weeks after the game this year.

by Mountngrown on Sep 15, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not That Doug is on Thin Ice Or Anything

But he NEEDS to nip this fumble thing in the bud. As stated above, this is his 2nd fumble in a huge game.

Hold onto the ball. We are too deep at the position to put up with that.

by MooreWalksOnWater on Sep 14, 2010 10:19 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

But...

Watch the replay, I’d chalk that fumble up to a great defensive play. It’s not like it was stripped. The dude missile dove into the ball! He was pretty solid the rest of the night.

Someday I hope to look in a mirror and see something special... something like a coach pete protoge'.

by BigBaloo on Sep 14, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Doug gets 100+ yards on Saturday and no fumbles...

The “Doug Mad, Doug Smash” tee-shirt will be added to the OBNUG store.

by Drew Roberts on Sep 14, 2010 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

What if

He rushes for 160 and 3 Tds but fumbles then recovers it in the endzone?

"You don't play against opponents. You play against the game..." - Bobby Knight

by bsu415 on Sep 14, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

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