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Hyperbole alert: Is Boise State - Virginia Tech "the biggest game in the history of Bronco football?"

With only 10 days until Boise State's season opener against Virginia Tech [Countdown spoiler warning], it is high time for OBNUG to start with some game previews. First up? Perspective.

The Labor Day opener is being hailed as Boise State's biggest game in the history of everything. Do you agree? After the jump, I'll share some thoughts on both sides of the debate and then open it up to your comments and opinion. Let's discuss.

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Just who exactly is calling this game "the biggest game in Bronco football history?" Well, the Idaho Statesman, for one. As a recipient of their Boise State football countdown newsletter (pictured above), I get a daily dose of hyperbole right to my inbox, or my spam folder depending on how many references to "your wife photos attached" there are.

The case for "the biggest game in Bronco football history"

The general consensus is that this 2010 season is the biggest season in Bronco football history because of the team's historically high preseason ranking and their opportunity to win a national championship. So it stands to reason that the most important game of the most important season could be the biggest in Bronco football history.

In addition, the game is the first Boise State visit east of the Mississippi since the 2005 Georgia debacle. It is a matchup of Top Ten teams, played in primetime on a Monday night. And it is on ESPN 3D, which is two entire dimensions greater than any previous Boise State game.

The case against "the biggest game in Bronco football history"

Boise State has played some pretty big games in its history: The 1980 Division I-AA national championship game, the 2001 game against No. 10 Fresno State, the 2007 Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma, the 2009 season opener against Oregon, and the 2010 Fiesta Bowl against TCU. I wouldn't blame you for picking any of those as the biggest games in Bronco history.

The Virginia Tech game is important, but if you were to ask Coach Pete, so is the Wyoming game. And the Oregon State game. And the New Mexico State game. And so on. If the rationale behind naming the VT game as the biggest in history is national championship implications, then you had better be prepared to call each and every game after the opener "the biggest game" as well.

Plus, the Broncos have played higher ranked opponents twice before (No. 7 Oklahoma and No. 4 TCU). They have played two BCS games. There are a lot of factors that the season opener is lacking. Like Joe Tessitore, for instance.

My take

I do not think that the season opener is the biggest game in Boise State's history. I would take the I-AA national championship, the 2001 Fresno game, and the 2007 Fiesta Bowl before I would consider the Virginia Tech game.

One big reason is that this game is a season opener, so you have no idea how good your opponent is and no idea how the rest of your schedule will impact the season. Plus, beating Virginia Tech will not put Boise State on the map or confirm the team's greatness to the media. The Broncos have already arrived, win or lose. At least, that's what I'm choosing to believe.

Your turn

Do you think this game is the biggest one in Boise State football history? If not, what other games would top it? Are you waiting to reserve judgment until after the season is over? Share your thoughts in the comments.

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Without a Fiesta Bowl 1.0 win, this game wouldn’t even be on the radar. But if we beat VT, come December, this could be the biggest one…until 1/10/2011.

Obviously you're not a golfer...

by ty_ol on Aug 27, 2010 8:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed, Without that Fiesta Bowl win, this would be yet another mid-major team trying to catch an AQ team off guard

and more inlikely would be played at VT, instead of landover, and wouldn’t me on national TV monday night.

Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano

by AParker on Aug 27, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

OU game much more important

Say Boise wins this game. Then they go onto the national championship and win or lose it. Then think in perspective which games will be the most important in their history:

(1) NC Game
(2) OU
(3-4) TCU and/or VT

This VT game is important, but only if they win all the rest of their games this year. I’d be surprised if they are even challenged by anyone they play besides this team, but OU will definitely be their most important game until they either play another BCS game against a BCS team in a BCS bowl finishing undefeated OR they play in the NC.

This game is in the top 3 games, but lets keep it in perspective.

And even then, pretend Utah or TCU goes undefeated. I know TCU’s loss last year will be used against them, but there will be an interesting debate at the end of the season if that happens. Especially if VT ends up being overrated.

Either way, the importance of this game is contingent on BSU winning 11 other games this year, and unless they do that, this game will be a side-note remembered by few.

I don't pour beer on Max Hall's family often, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by jim2 on Aug 30, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possibly the best quote ever.
I don’t pour beer on Max Hall’s family often, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

Obviously you're not a golfer...

by ty_ol on Aug 30, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Ranked in the top 5. Road game against a conference favorite. The road game is a de facto home game for Virginia Tech. Win this game and the Broncos set themselves up for a national title bid.

"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow

by 49er16 on Aug 27, 2010 8:08 AM PDT reply actions  

I hate to break the Hokie bubble but the answer is No

Every game this year could be the biggest in Bronco history. It may sound cliched to a Bronco fan but it’s true. Boise State may go ahead and beat Virginia Tech, only to turn around and lose to Wyoming in their next game. Woo Hoo! Boise State won their “biggest game” but that win didn’t put them in the NC game.

"It takes no talent to give great effort" -Chris Petersen

by JRig on Aug 27, 2010 8:26 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I have been having such a fun day

Watching this UNC mess and stupid Butch Davis. Man are they in some deep S and their fans are just up in arms.

No busting our bubble here as this is not our biggest game. It is a big one but we have played in the NC game and 6 BCS level games overall. Our ability to get to the BCS is still in gear win or lose this one.

by kicknchickn on Aug 27, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it's not your biggest game

Just saying I’m sure there’s plenty of Hokie fans who assume this is Boise State’s biggest game….among others.

"It takes no talent to give great effort" -Chris Petersen

by JRig on Aug 27, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly Munson

Like I said above. The Virginia Tech game doesn’t mean a damn thing if Boise State loses to someone else.

"It takes no talent to give great effort" -Chris Petersen

by JRig on Aug 27, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

No problem, just agreeing with you.

"It takes no talent to give great effort" -Chris Petersen

by JRig on Aug 27, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more.

Let the Media's excuse begin...again: "It was Boise State's first game of the year!" whilst completely ignoring that it was VaTech's first game, as well.

by TheShrewdOne on Aug 27, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?
And it is on ESPN 3D, which is two entire dimensions greater than any previous Boise State game.

Funny, I don’t recall any BSU games being broadcast in 1D.

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by D_Summit on Aug 27, 2010 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

You haven't been watching the KTVB feeds.

3D > HD > Any other TV > KTVB.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson

by Loque on Aug 27, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

If games on KTVB are 1D,

then what was the game that was broadcast from Hawaii? That was by far THE worst broadcast I’ve seen. It was like it was being broadcast from 1954…

I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!

by BSUFlyboy on Aug 27, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do I have my D's confused?

Loque is right. I’ve been watching too much KTVB.

"Please put your fat finger down!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 27, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

very well done.

Go, Orange! Go Big Blue!
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by Grindhouse on Aug 28, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine the blue field in 3D?

"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow

by 49er16 on Aug 27, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

This game all rides on the season outcome and voter opinion of whether Boise belongs in a national championship. If it has to depend on so much other than the game itself, it is not the biggest game of ever.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson

by Loque on Aug 27, 2010 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Depends on who you ask

I would say no, like Kevan listed above there are so many big games that BSU has played in. It seems that the media is the ones who are hyping this as the biggest game in BSU history, but so many games have already been hyped as that in the past. Others have said it, but Coach Pete would disagree, it’s just another game to him and his players. There are lots of supposed implications for BSU no matter the outcome of the game, so that is why it is receiving all the hype.

"All we can do is win the games on our schedule" - Coach Pete

by givemesomemoore on Aug 27, 2010 9:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes??..

Looks like I am going against the popular choice here. The only reason I think it is bigger then fiesta bowl 1.0 (by a hair) is the opprotunity we have to “proove” ourselves to the east coast. Remember last time we played over there, Georgia. There is such an east coast bias in college football. This will, in my opinion, give us an opprotunity to redeem our Georgia trip

by TriCityBronco on Aug 27, 2010 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Are you new here?

There was no game against Georgia.

by Boise State of Mind on Aug 27, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

There was only one.

And I think Hawaii played it.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson

by Loque on Aug 27, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s an angle I can buy. From an East Coast bias perspective, this is big.

"Please put your fat finger down!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 27, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

My sentiments exactly.
The Virginia Tech game is important, but if you were to ask Coach Pete, so is the Wyoming game. And the Oregon State game. And the New Mexico State game. And so on. If the rationale behind naming the VT game as the biggest in history is national championship implications, then you had better be prepared to call each and every game after the opener “the biggest game” as well

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by Mikrino on Aug 27, 2010 9:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Mine too

"Please put your fat finger down!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 27, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well stated

Every game after is bigger than the last for BSU if you beat VT

by kicknchickn on Aug 27, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

As an outsider

Who doesn’t know anything about Boise State football, I’d say this game is the most biggest game.

Yes, I know if they somehow lose later in the season, this game loses it’s importance.

But for right now… to me it seems to be the “biggest game of all time.” I guess I look at it this way: in a perfect scenario, what would be the biggest game of all time for Boise? The National Championship game.

This season, with the high preseason ranking needed in this day in age to stay relevant and in the hunt for a NCG appearance, the returning talent, the expecatations, etc… this season seems likes the best change for BSC to make the NCG game. So, to me, the VT game, seems like one of the major obstacles in BSU’s path this year. If they lose on Labor Day, the chance as the real “biggest game of all time” completely goes away.

That’s why I peg this one as the ‘biggest of all time.’ But, again, this is coming from a VT fan and a total outsider to BSU football.

by VT1996 on Aug 27, 2010 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

As stated above....

that’s the same reason every game this year is the most important.

Also, wasn’t Fresno #8 when we beat them in 2001?

And that's another.......conference realignment!

by ruffneck on Aug 27, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Were they?

I didn’t know for sure, so I ESPN’d it. The WWL said they were No. 10.

"Please put your fat finger down!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 27, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh ya, found it!

I was able to dig this old headline up.

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/parleyr/014.jpg

And that's another.......conference realignment!

by ruffneck on Aug 27, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

How ironic...

just below the pic it says," Boise States biggest game ever".

And that's another.......conference realignment!

by ruffneck on Aug 27, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

every big game against a big opponent is the "biggest game of all-time" for us

this game is obviously no exception. we’ll see… i think Fiesta Bowl v1 has been the biggest game in our program up to this point. could that change this year? absolutely. and could this game against VaTech be a part of that change? of course.

but I don’t think our entire program hinges on winning or losing this game.

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Aug 27, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

does anyone else think that VT fans....

Are not NEARLY as obnoxious and lacking in self awareness than other (looking at you, Oregon) opponents? Maybe it comes from having been where we are at more recently… There are a few 14 year old basement goblins, but everyone has those and VT fans in general are really pretty good dudes. That doesn’t mean I don’t want to ruin their lives for just one weekend this year, I’m just sayin..

by Polynikes on Aug 27, 2010 10:08 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Nothing compared to Oregon. I have not feared for my life once this offseason.

"Please put your fat finger down!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 27, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Boo!

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Aug 27, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's be fair...

you didn’t beat Vatech the year before that included a concussion to the qb and a sending off of your player. Likewise, we are regional. One thing is for sure though: the Vatech vs. BSU game won’t be the most infamous game in your history. If someone can one up the game last year in that deparment, then I feel sorry for them.

by BisonDucks on Aug 27, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey

At least we cheapshot _during) the game!!! Blount has to wait until after he gets whooped.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson

by Loque on Aug 27, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, for sure,

that was a horrible day for Oregon football. Of course, my point was that the dialogue between fans was a little more heated because of the concussion Masoli took and the Jeron Johnson’s hit on a defenseless player.

by BisonDucks on Aug 28, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love you Ducks!

I really miss the heckling.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson

by Loque on Aug 28, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I miss it too...

you make sure your team win and I’ll make sure mine does too, so we can meet again this year. Let’s just will our teams to victory and then we can have part 3 of the BSU/Oregon with really high stakes. I

by BisonDucks on Aug 28, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely agree Poly. Clear case of more level headed perspective and failure to over-identify with a team

of superior athletes who happen to play for an organizatin you attended or adopted. Soccer-style hooliganism, even in print, is distasteful, and its nice to know there are those who can keep things intense, but fun (or vice versa).

tvmunson

by tmunson on Aug 27, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

We appreciate your comment

and I do for sure. If you are going to the game or know someone who is I will bet they say the Hokie fans there are cool and respectful. Nebraska fans last year raved about the great treatment they received at our stadium and that is something most Hokies pride themselves on for sure.

That said I want to win this one soooooo bad!!!! August is the longest month of the year!!!!!!

by kicknchickn on Aug 27, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

I’m not convinced some of the obnoxious ones are really VT fans either.

And that's another.......conference realignment!

by ruffneck on Aug 27, 2010 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

So this is like the question of, 'does size matter?"

To the ones “getting it”, i hear it makes all the difference. The routine response is, “it’s what you do with it that matters”…but that’s only for them as ain’t got it.

Can the Broncs ’give it"?

Have you ever seen a stallion at work? He does not differeniate from the prettiest or scruffy filly to the odest mare..when it’s time to mount..he goes at it with all he’s got!!!

This is a big game for the bank accounts of the media and BCS, but the stallions here are the Broncs and it’s as big as every stud session he ever had before!!!

To the right...my future brothers-in-law working hard on one of the trifecta of a Black & Gold birthright..."inebriation", yet before they acquired "nastiness" or "vandal-phrenia"

by NotsoSchizo on Aug 27, 2010 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes, biggest game so far

Biggest because we travel east of the Mississippi. Entering “football country” at their doorstep and none of these guys believe BSU is legit. They only remember what happened in Georgia. So, there is much to prove and we are far away from anything definable as “the west” or home country. Kind of like entering the lion’s den for real. Huge stadium packed with Hokie fans, east coast humidity, and that darned East Coast elitism or whatever else you want to call it…they don’t like us being there; we don’t belong.

Enter Boise State on Sept. 6th. GO BRONCOS!

by Broncogirl55 on Aug 27, 2010 11:21 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Dang!!

 That is well written. That would make an awesome introduction for Boise State in the pre-game chatter.
 You said that well, Broncogirl.

by TitoRay on Aug 27, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is a good argument

One that I haven’t heard in the 4-5 typical answers.

I still don’t think it’s the biggest game EVER, but this is as good of an argument for that I’ve heard. Playing on the East coast makes a difference because EVERYONE gets to watch it, as opposed to playing in USC or something. (Assuming they aren’t on probation and are national contenders)

I don't pour beer on Max Hall's family often, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by jim2 on Aug 30, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but only if BSU runs the table and (by a miracle) ends up in the NC game

If the Broncos win all regular season games this season and because of losses to teams in BCS conference the Broncos get to the NC game, then this game will have become the most important game in school history. If the team suffers a loss, or even just ends up in a non-NC BCS bowl game, then it will not have been the most important game. A big game, yes, but not the biggest.

See, there’s a the funny thing about history: it’s only written after the actual events have happened.

We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross

by marktgarten on Aug 27, 2010 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

BSU needs some help to get into the NC

I absolutely hate that this is true, but any undefeated BCS conference team (Yes, including the Big Easy) will jump in over BSU for a #2 spot. It is the BCS making the decision, so why would they let a non-BCS team in if they have any excuse not to?

Pretty much the pecking order is this:
(1) Undefeated SEC champ
(2) Undefeated Notre Dame
(3) Undefeated Big 10 champ
(4) Undefeated BCS conference team
(5) 1-Loss SEC champ
(6) 1-Loss Notre Dame
(7) 1-Loss Big 10 champ
(8) 1-Loss of either conference champion OU, Texas, or USC**
(9) 2-Loss SEC champ***
(10) 2-Loss Notre Dame****
(11) Undefeated Non-BCS Conference Team
(11a) If between MWC champ and WAC champ, possibly MWC champ, unless between TCU and Boise St.

Any other year
*
Half-Serious
****Not serious at all, but wouldn’t be terribly surprised

If BSU goes undefeated, I would love to see them in the NCG and win it. So I will be rooting for you guys, unless Utah by some miracle also goes undefeated, and for some reason is getting respect by being ranked in the top 3. (Not counting on it)

I don't pour beer on Max Hall's family often, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by jim2 on Aug 30, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

asterix don't transfer well apparently.

USC = Any other year
*****2-Loss SEC Champ = Half-Serious
******2-Loss Notre Dame = Not serious at all…

I don't pour beer on Max Hall's family often, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by jim2 on Aug 30, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the VT game is the most important game in school history because it makes a NCG possible

Then, using that same logic, you could say that last years Fiesta Bowl was the most important game in our schools history. Had we lost last that game, we would hopefully be ranked at No. 10 where TCU is ranked and our conversation would be “if we can just beat VT and the rest of our schedule, we may get into another BCS game.” If we didn’t get the preseason ranking we have, we would have never been able to jump a 1 or maybe even 2 loss SEC/Big 12 team. We wouldn’t even be able to jump TCU (assuming they win all their games).

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 27, 2010 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes

Events are made more or less relevant from a historical perspective by what follows.

We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross

by marktgarten on Aug 27, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES!!

Oklahoma game seen by outsiders as a cute story.
Fresno game no one cared about outside of the WAC
Oregon Games, no one cared outside of the West. Only good team out west? USC
1AA championship, who won last year? uh huh, no one cares.

I would argue that this is the biggest game for any non-auto qualifier school in history due to perception.
Everyone already respects VT and doesn’t question their ranking. Everyone else is questioning BSU’s ranking and hype.
If you win, you take a huge step forward in making believers out of east coast media, east coast fans, east coast schools and east coast coaches!
You loose and you take a big fat I told you so, and a healthy dose of you never belonged with the big boys and you were over hyped and overrated.
This will be the biggest game in BSU history in terms of how many viewers will be watching and how our program and non auo qualifiers are perceived nationally.
They have never played on this big of stage before. They have never been ranked 3-5th to start a season. they have never been considered national championship contenders before.
YES, it is the biggest game in school history. More is at stake than ever before.

Voters back east think less than nothing of the WAC schedule and don’t think much of Oregon State either.

Go Broncos! Time to put up.

by Broncsfan4life on Aug 27, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

In addition, the game is the first Boise State visit east of the Mississippi since the 2005 Georgia debacle.

Are you sure this game actually happened? I have my doubts.

Let the Media's excuse begin...again: "It was Boise State's first game of the year!" whilst completely ignoring that it was VaTech's first game, as well.

by TheShrewdOne on Aug 27, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Well they did play in bowling green last year and hattiesburg the year before both east of the mississippi, so kellen moore has never lost east of the mississippi.

by afoote on Aug 28, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some people might doubt there are football teams to play in these places.

by Egnowit on Aug 28, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES

Coming from a VT fan I don’t see how this could not be the biggest game in your history. When you beat OK it was great for you to get a BCS win, but was looked at as a fluke trickery game to the masses. Then you went undefeated two regular seasons in a row. The more time passes and the more you win, the more relevant you become, finally culminating to this #3 ap ranking. Everything is on the line with this game, and this win would be the only reason to hang your hat on the NC. The fact that you are facing arguably the best running game—even better than BAMA—and being able to stop it would show the balance of your team, even if it turns out our defense couldn’t reload like we thought. Jusst so you understand, we VT fans expect a lot from our team this year, moreso than any year since 99 when we went to the NC game with Mike Vick. This year and next year are two seasons we’ve been waiting for due to our recruiting progress, so if you come out and embrarass us it says a lot about your team. I truly can’t call this game, I’ve watched all your games on Youtube and I think most of your success is scheming and coaching over talent—yes Moore is good but I think most success goes to your coaching. Even if you stack the box on every single down and expect our run, I would be surprised if you shut it down anywhere close to Oregon. If you get up early in the game, don’t expect to stop sith a 3-3-5 defense…I promise VT will run all over you with the physicalness of our tight ends and fullbacks to open things up. Heres to a good game!

by EddieRyan on Aug 27, 2010 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Really?

I promise to be understanding when you come back here Sept 7th appologizing for having no idea what you were talking about.

I promise VT will run all over you with the physicalness of our tight ends and fullbacks to open things up.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 27, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

And what are the odds that the Broncos are sticking with just one defensive look? :)

by hummerofdoom on Aug 27, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will be here win or lose

Nobody should talk smack and not be there to take it if you lose so I am really hoping not to have to do that!

Go Hokies

by kicknchickn on Aug 27, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, Really

I watched your games, you guys use 3-3-5 scheme a lot because you get up early in games forcing people to throw, causing you to sack lots of quarterbacks. What I meant by the post is that if you get up early, which could happen, you will not continue your success running that scheme like you have against other weaker opponents. The rushing attack is simply too physical and fast…and with the size and physical play that our tight ends and fullbacks, along with our line, bring to open up the run for someone like Ryan Williams, Darren Evans or David Wilson, you will be surprised when we run the ball down the field. Did I come on this board and say something retarded and talk smack about were gonna dominate Boise? No. Do you honeslty believe you will shut down the run completely? Are you that ignorant? Im not saying we win here, it could go either way. Im saying theres no way you shut our run down like Oregon, atleast pull your head out of your ass and admit that much

by EddieRyan on Aug 28, 2010 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why such bitterness and determination to prove your point?

Nobody (that I know of) has slighted your running game. Ryan Williams is undoubtedly one of the top backs in CFB, as is Darren Evans. In terms of clock control, VT’s running game is what scares me the most. However, you act as if there is absolutely no answer to that. Both teams will have answers to schemes as the game progresses. I expect the planned flow to change mid-2nd quarter. And from there, it is anybody’s guess as to where the yards will be won. Our passing game can be neutralized (Fresno State), just as your running game can (Duke). Both teams will have questions and answers.

You gonna be at the game?

Obviously you're not a golfer...

by ty_ol on Aug 28, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Responding to smartass post from bleedblue

is where the bitterness came from there. I agree with your post ty_ol, both teams will have answers to the games progress. I was suprised at how little Oregon ran the ball against you—(without looking I wanna say less than 15 carries??) for about 20 yards for the day. I mention that game just because they did run the ball well last year and were top 5 or 6 in rush offense and it was a hyped up game similar to this one. I know we run probably close to a 3-1 ratio in the first half even if were down two touchdowns. I’m curious to see what formations Boise uses if they are up on us. I’m not expecting a shootout here, but who knows, everyone says Tyrod has made strides since last year—(sean glennon split time with tyrod first two years so i dont really count them) but if he is more accurate than last year (he was most efficient passer in ACC) it could end up a game decided in the air. I am really excited about this game and I don’t think any expert can accurately predict it—-you guys could spank us and it wouldnt surprise me—-or it could go the other way…just don’t know. God I can’t wait!!

by EddieRyan on Aug 28, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I looked it up

Oregon ran 17 times for 31 yards. Passing: 14-27 for 121 yards.

Time of Possession: 17:28 to 42:32 in favor of Boise St.

Oregon ran the ball so little because they rarely had the ball, and when they did try to run, they failed. They didn’t really give up on the run even in the 4th quarter. In the fourth they ran 4 times, with results of:

(1-10) Six yard gain, fumble, turnover
(3-3) Two yard gain
(4-1) One yard loss, turnover on downs
(2-10) 3 yard gain

I think we have a reason to be confident, although another Oregon-type game is unlikely. Hopefully it will be a good game (not a blowout) with a good outcome (Boise St. FTW).

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by marktgarten on Aug 28, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

EddieRyan...

Oregon’s running game progressed throughout the season. They had all new starters on the oline except for one guy that had a handful the season prior. Likewise, Blount was out of shape. The reason Blount went undrafted, more than the infamous punch, was his work ethic. He ballooned up to 260 in the offseason and did get back down to 240 or so but he was definitely a step slower than ‘08 playing at 230. There were concerns going into fall camp last year about Blount being the #1 back as a powerback in the read option. Many thought that he was a better change of pace back. LaMike exploded on the scene last year but he took a few games to get acclimated. The run game last season at this time was a shell of the Oregon run game today. Now that is not to take anything from BSU because they stopped what was in front of them. However, I did watch BSU give up a ton of yards against Fresno State on the ground, so it wouldn’t surprise me if Vatech did run on BSU. Conversely, I wouldn’t be surprised if you Vatech gets completely shut down, a la Oregon and TCU. I tend toward the later just because the defenses are ahead at this juncture of the season. Thank God we get a practice game against the LOBO, which were one of the worse defenses in the FBS.

by BisonDucks on Aug 28, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

EddieRyan...

Oregon’s running game progressed throughout the season. They had all new starters on the oline except for one guy that had a handful the season prior. Likewise, Blount was out of shape. The reason Blount went undrafted, more than the infamous punch, was his work ethic. He ballooned up to 260 in the offseason and did get back down to 240 or so but he was definitely a step slower than ‘08 playing at 230. There were concerns going into fall camp last year about Blount being the #1 back as a powerback in the read option. Many thought that he was a better change of pace back. LaMike exploded on the scene last year but he took a few games to get acclimated. The run game last season at this time was a shell of the Oregon run game today. Now that is not to take anything from BSU because they stopped what was in front of them. However, I did watch BSU give up a ton of yards against Fresno State on the ground, so it wouldn’t surprise me if Vatech did run on BSU. Conversely, I wouldn’t be surprised if you Vatech gets completely shut down, a la Oregon and TCU. I tend toward the later just because the defenses are ahead at this juncture of the season. Thank God we get a practice game against the LOBO, which were one of the worse defenses in the FBS.

by BisonDucks on Aug 28, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your O was BETTER without Blount so his weight holds little weight

LaMichael is a beast and although I’m sure he got better as the season went on, you can’t tell me that he got THAT much better as the season went on. He is and was at the time we played him, an awesome athlete however Boise’s D played lights out. There’s no way that you can chalk the difference in your offenses poor outing in Boise to the rest of their season to needing to get acclimated. The BSU game and the rest of OU’s season were black and white in comparison.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 28, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am dumbfounded...

we were better without blount but he was featured in the game against BSU but with LaMike we would have fared the same??? Now I am wondering why EddieRyan takes you seriously.

by BisonDucks on Aug 28, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have been founddumb

When Blount was not on the team your offense was much better than the game where he was on the team. how does that not make sense to you?

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 29, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

The whole offense needed to acclimate...

we may have done better with LMJ instead of Blount but not that much. LMJ was coming off of a redshirt season. BSU was his first game. The oline was in disarray during the game, Masoli was terrible, Blount was slow and overweight, etc. It was not a night and day comparison. Our second game against Purdue was not that great. They out gained us and if not for pick six and a special teams td, we lose that game. Likewise, the following week masoli was 4-16 for 80ish yards in the air. It was not until the 4th game against Cal, that we actually started playing well. BSU’s defense was part of the reason but that defense game up a lot of rushing yards to Fresno State and Nevada later in the season. Part of the ineptitude that day was due to the Ducks.

by BisonDucks on Aug 29, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Moore played his first....

game against the Ducks also. Time to acclimate is a little lame but understandable. VT is already sneakin that one in on us. We’ll see if that planted seed was neccessary or not on the 6th.

And that's another.......conference realignment!

by ruffneck on Aug 29, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He means that it was LMJ’s first game EVER. Moore had 2 home games before facing Oregon in 2008. Granted his first ever AWAY game was at Oregon.

Obviously you're not a golfer...

by ty_ol on Aug 29, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't let this get to your heads

but Moore is an extreme outlier. You ask a 1,000 football players to play after a redshirt season at qb and 999 struggle.

by BisonDucks on Aug 29, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

see:

Forcier, Prince, Barkley et al. Luck at Stanford is the only one I can think of that has replicated Moore.

by BisonDucks on Aug 29, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we will hold VT to just over 100 yards

with a bulk of those coming in garbage time. Why? Why not? Look how efficeint OU’s O was last year. I hate the crap about them miraculously becoming a completely different team just 2 or 3 games after ours. That makes no sense. OU WAS that good and VT’s running game is a little better (hence the 100+ yards and not 30+ yards). The 3-3-5 isn’t a run defense so what makes you think we’d go to it if you guys are running the ball? We don’t switch to the 3-3-5 and as a result of that the O starts throwing. Are athelets are on par with VT’s and I think that fact is going to be the #1 lesson learned by VT fans come 9/6. Although I respect Beemer and the VT coaching staff, I don’t think there is a coaching staff in the nation that schemes like Boise State’s cs. This game may look like a close one if our offense doesn’t click.

I do think it will be a good game, but I’m tired of doubting our team based on the respect I have for the opposing team. I’m sure that Alabama’s fans respect LSU but there’s no way they think they’re going to lose to the program.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 28, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow... i'd agree with Eddie Ryan

Maybe I have not seen enough Boise State football in my life, but I am just dying to see this Boise State defense in action on Labor Day. Just over 100 yards.. “mostly in garbage time”.

Seriously?

The best defenses we faced last year didn’t hold Tech to “just over 100.. mostly during garbage time..”

The top defenses we faced last year:
Alabama: 121 yards rushing, 2 TD
Nebraska: 191 yards, 1 TD
Miami: 296 yards, 2 TD
North Carolina: 131 yards, 2 TD
Tennessee: 247 yards, 4 TD

Seriously? “Just over 100”… Count me in on someone just anxious to see the Boise State defense in action. I know they are coached better than any other players on the planet, and the defense is as good as the Steelers teams in the 70s… but oh my goodness.. I’m just dying to see this now.

by VT1996 on Aug 28, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you can't wait to see it

check out a preview of what’s to come, watch OU @ BSU 2009. You’ll love it.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 29, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think we played Oklahoma last year.

by Egnowit on Aug 29, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Come on now...

Oregon did not have the running game of VT last year and they play in the WEAK Pac 10 and if you consider our SOS last year not even close. That was a home game for BSU too.

I predict 250 yards rushing and more if David Wilson gets the nod over Darren Evans which is looking like the case. Bad news for BSU for sure.

by kicknchickn on Aug 29, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Help me understand this correctly...

According to you, there’s only two strong football conferences, which is the
SEC and of course the ACC?

There’s no strong teams at all in the west coast since the PAC 10 is weak. The only strong teams are in the south and on the east coast? Interesting.

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by JRig on Aug 29, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was referring to a strong SOS

For the Hokies last year – Alabama, Nebraska and Tennessee. Who did the Ducks play outside of BSU?

the Pac-10 is a decent conference like the ACC. We are all behing the SEC.

Take a chill pill dude

by kicknchickn on Aug 30, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your reversing you statement by saying

Pac-10 is decent after using WEAK in uppercase font. The Ducks scheduled @BSU, Purdue, and Utah. Alabama, Nebraska and Tennessee was the hardest OOC in the country but Oregon’s was nothing to scoff at.

by BisonDucks on Aug 30, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both Oregon and VT each played 6 of the top 50 rush defenses last year

Yet Oregon ran for more yards and had more rushing TDs

Obviously you're not a golfer...

by ty_ol on Aug 29, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because Oregon plays out West

those stats you speak of are nullified. BSU, Purdue and Utah made for a soft SOS and Ohio State’s rushing defense sucked as well. Ohio State is out east but everyone knows that they don’t count.

by BisonDucks on Aug 29, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny how that works

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by JRig on Aug 30, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did Oregon play Alabama, Nebraska and North Carolina?

I don’t think so and those defenses were three of the top 10.

by kicknchickn on Aug 30, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

No...

VaTech scheduled an impressive OOC. However, Oregon’s slate of @Boise State, Purdue, Utah, the Pac-10 round robin, and Ohio State is no exactly minced meat though.

by BisonDucks on Aug 30, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

3-3-5

You ran this formation a lot because you were up alot. I noticed two times you were actually down last year—thats an astounding positive for you guys. When you’re up I noticed you do run that formation a lot and my point is its a bad idea to run that against VTECH even when youre up considerably. I dont mean to toot the horn to hard here, but Ryan Williams, in his first ever start, scored 2 touchdowns against BAMA and had nearly 80 yards and wasnt even given the ball much. Darren Evans and David Wilson are also two backs that would be the starter in ANY TEAM IN THE NATION and they are just back ups….so my point is that you’re facing a very strong running attack that will be relentless. Obviously the 3-3-5 isn’t designed to stop the run, so you will likely be using a 4-3. Tyrod had decent numbers last year for someone that didn’t throw the ball a whole lot and just had an epic scrimmage today so don’t sleep on the passing game even in the event we somehow get shut down.

by EddieRyan on Aug 28, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buddy Ryan's 46!

That would surprise everyone

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by marktgarten on Aug 29, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

This gives me a lot of hope for our Offense
Tyrod……had an epic scrimmage today so don’t sleep on the passing game even in the event we somehow get shut down.

by 4EverBleedBlue on Aug 29, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dont sleep on Tyrod

He is a real player and will prove his point on the field.

VT’s recruiting in the last four years has gone up a couple of notches and you may not know our players but they are studs that BSU doesn’t recuit. The talent, team and coaching will lead the Hokies to victory. Our D coord is the best in CFB and we only reload. Expect to see your offense on the ground all night.

VT 31 BSU 14

by kicknchickn on Aug 29, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus, the Broncos have played higher ranked opponents twice before (No. 7 Oklahoma and No. 4 TCU).

Fresno was #8 when we decided to make them our bit concubines for life.

Let the Media's excuse begin...again: "It was Boise State's first game of the year!" whilst completely ignoring that it was VaTech's first game, as well.

by TheShrewdOne on Aug 27, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Whoopeee!

Congratulations. That makes this automatic then for a BSu victory.

by kicknchickn on Aug 29, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

2010 Fiesta Bowl

I think that was the big one, we had to redeem ourselves from the poinsietta bowl,had we not done that there would be no talk of the importance of the VT game or NCG hopes.

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by 2blueforU on Aug 27, 2010 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes because of the spotlight

Id say yes, mainly because you have all the eyes trained on you this year. Last years win over TCU was really lackluster because us east coasters couldnt guage how 2 non-AQ teams would stack up against the AQ league schools. We all assumed one team most likely did, and it turned out to be BSU. Since the TCU game, more of us have started doing on homework and now we are ready to see what you got!
      Unfortunately everything you have done in the past only amounts to a lofty preseason rank and a lot of buzz. But thats not a bad thing because buzz means eyeballs, and now you have EVERYONE ready to watch you and see what you can do. You win here and you demonstrate value to EVERYONE. I mean come on, what poll does not have this as one of the top games to watch in college football this entire year? Win this game and you may win enough supporters to tip the scale to your favor of a NC bid. Lose this and im not sure you will get another chance for 5 or so more years.

by prophicVT on Aug 27, 2010 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

You win here and you demonstrate value to EVERYONE.

Oh, if that were only true! Even if Boise State wins, there will be rationalizations about it. Trust me. That’s what happened after we beat Oklahoma, Oregon, Oregon again, and TCU. That is the way of the mid-major.

Win this game and you may win enough supporters to tip the scale to your favor of a NC bid. Lose this and im not sure you will get another chance for 5 or so more years.

It’s going to take a lot more than an undefeated season to get into the NC game. A one loss Big East team would get there before an undefeated Boise State no matter what the preseason rankings suggest, I’m pretty sure.

On the flip side, Boise State went 10-3 in 2007 and here we are. I doubt a loss to Va Tech will ruin Bronco football hopes for five years.

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by marktgarten on Aug 27, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd agree with that....
Lose this and im not sure you will get another chance for 5 or so more years.

If VT wins this game in convincing fashion, Boise could kiss goodbye any hopes of making the NC game for years.

by VT1996 on Aug 30, 2010 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

5 years is a bit of a stretch

We won the first Fiesta Bowl at the end of the 2006 season. We followed up with a “bad” 2007 season going 10-3, losing to Washington along the way. Then we went undefeated in 2008 only to get shutout of a BCS bowl. Part of me blames Utah for this. Then of course back to the Fiesta Bowl at the end of 2009.

So after a bad 2007 season, we went undefeated in 2008 but was shutout of a BCS bowl, only to go undefeated again in 2009 and get the invite. So, not 5 years, maybe a couple years but not 5…..as long as we go undefeated.

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by JRig on Aug 30, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

5 years for a crack at the NCG

I don’t think that’s a stretch. Not 5 years for another BCS game… but 5 years minimum for a crack at the NCG.

Again, that is if the loss is a “bad loss.” A bad loss will dump BSU down into the mid teens in the rankings. Even running the table the rest of 2010, they’ll maybe crack the top 10 by the end of the year – and I think that would be a surprise. Next season they move into a new conference and it wouldn’t shock me to see the years of undefeated seasons come to an end. And there is no way a 1-loss non-BCS school will get a crack at the NCG again.

by VT1996 on Aug 30, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stadium Expansion

Was there supposed to be a stadium expansion announcement today? Or is it expected next Friday?

by BSUoverU on Aug 27, 2010 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I love the logic

But consider that a win against Va Tech sets the stage for a possible BCS National Championship run. This is the game everyone is talking about, nationally. By no means is it the biggest, but an important game in the evolution of the Boise State Football Program.

Then again a win over Va Tech means that the next game against Wyoming would be the next most important game. In the eyes of Coach Pete they all are important and big for that matter.

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by Bronco Nation Podcast on Aug 27, 2010 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

two sides of the coin

Generally I buy into the “the next game is the biggest game” mentality. The program has built each victory on top of the last over several years. This is how they’ve gotten the media to finally accept them as a powerhouse. It’s been a long slow process, and the Broncos have gotten here by treating each game like the biggest.

That said, it IS a matchup of top-10 teams, generally recognized as BSU’s biggest chance to falter in the quest for the title, a LOT of eyeballs will be watching, etc. I’ll just call it a BIG game and leave it at that….

by hummerofdoom on Aug 27, 2010 11:39 PM PDT reply actions  

No it's not

Though the game is huge this season, it’s not the biggest in the school history.
Either of the 2 BCS games are bigger.
Although BSU has a short D-1 history, it has compiled games that have brought it to this place, while placing BCS conference schools in suspended disbelief.

by Darth Prophet on Aug 28, 2010 8:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Biggest

Even before I knew who your coach was, I was always a big fan of the idea that every (or the next) game is the biggest – I’ve never understood how some schools get passes for a losses, particularly crappy losses. To me, Florida did not belong in their “BCS” game and neither did LSU, and those two “SEC National Championships” are purely manufactured.

Unfortunately, BSU does have a lot of perception questions, sort of – but I do think the eyeball comment is correct. More folks will likely watch the VT/BSU game on Monday than any other game ever (although more folks CLAIM to have seen Fiesta 1.0). But most fans (see ESPN college football polls which have some 50% plus of 60K voters wanting to see the Broncos — myself included — play for that “BCS ‘National Championship’”) will accept a Branco victory than some of you guys are thinking, it’s some of the media and some others that still need their arms twisted (and brains reconfigured).

I'd rather be surfing.

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