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Preseason Blogpoll: Your guess is as good as mine, and probably better

Being a blogger has certain rights and privileges, none of which are monetary as I'm coming to learn. One of those benefits is voting in the BlogPoll, a Top 25 that typically makes more sense than the others. Unless you give me too much creative liberty.

OBNUG's second year in the much lauded BlogPoll begins much the same way that last year did, with a backwards-thinking, erroneous mishmash of teams. After the jump, take a look at my first stab at the BlogPoll, and then leave your thoughts in the comments about what should change, who should move, and what obviously tampered beverage I was drinking that made me leave USC in there. Help me out, I'm going to need it.

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About the BlogPoll and why it is awesome

Mr. Brian Cook of Michigan blogging fame dreamed up a way to outdo traditional college football polls by placing the polling power in the carpal-tunneled hands of bloggers. The best CFB bloggers vote weekly for their Top 25, but here's the real beauty: Each blogger is encouraged/required to seek reader feedback on the poll. So basically you guys are the ones voting in the BlogPoll from week to week. And yes, this is similar to the way that Craig James fills out a ballot then lets his hypothyroid pug make the final calls.

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OBNUG's BlogPoll method for 2010: Now with less Kevan Lee

Much to the betterment of the BlogPoll, I will not be handling polling duties week in and week out. That job will be professionally handled once again by OBNUG poll expert Mike Kingery, provided he never ever votes for Nevada under any circumstances.

Before you judge my preseason poll, know this

Let me start off by saying that preseason polls are dumb. They reward teams for doing stuff on paper, and their impact on the outcome of a season is disturbingly real. So to limit the horrors of preseason prejudice, my August poll is a reprint of the final regular season poll from last year.

Is it a perfect system? No, as you will see below. But does it at least make an effort to reward actual football playing? Yes.

OBNUG's preseason BlogPoll

Here is OBNUG's preseason BlogPoll ballot, cut and pasted directly from last year's final AP.

  1. Alabama
  2. Texas
  3. Florida
  4. Boise State
  5. Ohio State
  6. TCU
  7. Iowa
  8. Cincinnati
  9. Penn State
  10. Virginia Tech
  11. Oregon
  12. BYU
  13. Georgia Tech
  14. Nebraska
  15. Pittsburgh
  16. Wisconsin
  17. LSU
  18. Utah
  19. Miami (FL)
  20. Mississippi
  21. Texas Tech
  22. USC
  23. Central Michigan
  24. Clemson
  25. West Virginia

Teams that are missing: Oklahoma, Oregon State, North Carolina, Florida State, Arkansas, Georgia, Auburn,

Potential problems, of which there are many

  • No. 4 Boise State. What's the point of voting in a preseason poll if you don't vote your favorite team No. 1? I assume this is how Texas gets ranked so high in the Harris every season.
  • No. 8 Cincinnati. Does Cincinnati even have a football team any more?
  • No. 12 BYU. Hahaha, good one, self. 
  • No. 14 Nebraska. Fourteen just seems too low for the Huskers. But not as low as ...
  • NR Oklahoma. Yes, this is Phil Steele's No. 1 team in 2010. Yes, I did not rank them in the preseason BlogPoll. Yes, I'm strangely happy about it.
  • No. 20 Mississippi, No. 21 Texas Tech, No. 22 USC, No. 23 Central Michigan, and No. 24 Clemson. Seriously?

Disagree

The best part of the BlogPoll is getting feedback from readers and commenters. So let me know what changes you would make to the preseason BlogPoll, and I will factor them in before submitting the final draft to the BlogPoll machine.

Should I put Boise State No. 1?

Should BYU be anywhere near No. 12?

What left out teams should be put in?

Share your thoughts in the comments, and let me know what your Top Ten or Top 25 would look like. It can't be much stranger than mine.

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don’t really think BSU deserves #1 unless they prove themselves on the field this year against all comers. That is hard to say for a long time BSU homer [ I sat in the freezing fog that day When the guys took down grambling…. it was glorious, even if we couldn’t talk by the end of the game], but I would definitely go with them at # 2 as far as the rest of the poll goes…….yawn…….I only love the Bronocs all else is fluff

All the way this year
                        Go BRONCOS

 I am so so so so so excited for football to start, that first weekend of college football- the wait will be unbearable….waiting……………………………………………………..

by papaspud on Aug 17, 2010 8:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Perhaps I should rank the Broncos No. 1 through No. 25.

"Please put your fat finger down!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 17, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

if you saw college football live yesterday frank beamer said boise state was the 2nd ranked team in the nation

beamer knows best. it was the interview portion of the show.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 17, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

plus replace usc with houston and trade utah with byu's place and everything is dandy.

byu lost it’s four best offensive players hall, unga, pitta and a offensive lineman.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 17, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just steal Andy Staples’ top 25 and worry about this after some games are played.

by Red Ivan on Aug 17, 2010 8:50 AM PDT reply actions  

NR Oklahoma. Yes, this is Phil Steele’s No. 1 team in 2010. Yes, I did not rank them in the preseason BlogPoll. Yes, I’m strangely happy about it.

Rec’d

*Perfection is our goal, excellence will be tolerated*

by BroncocnorB on Aug 17, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Hit the blockquote button

Then paste the text in between.

Like this:

, total block quote FAIL.[]

Only without brackets, so it looks like this:

damn, total block quote FAIL.

by graybandit on Aug 17, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good god, a triple Munson

I need to stop posting from work…

by graybandit on Aug 17, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The rare triple munson

Take a picture, everyone. You may not ever see this again.

"Please put your fat finger down!" - Lars

by Kevan Lee on Aug 17, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know...

seems to me munson himself pulls off a rare triple munson just about each time he comments. Sometimes he even pulls the triple with a one and a half twist in the pike position just to show off.

by kcam on Aug 17, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's Starting to Look Like a TRIPLE Munson!

" . . . ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE SKY!!!! "

"I said, if I were smart then I would save up for a piece of string and a rock to wind the string around. Everybody wants a rock to wind a piece of string around."

by casketbase on Aug 17, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

SOOO AMAZING!

Excellent reference, btw.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson

by Loque on Aug 17, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

ROFL

that’s pretty awesome Joe. It’s sort of like stripes.

OBNUG Resident Mom and Bronco Nation Podcast Field Reporter.

by Crissie on Aug 17, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Giving too much credit

to Texas and Florida imo. I would go:

1. Bama
2. Ohio State
3. Boise State
4. Texas
5. Florida

OBNUG Resident Mom and Bronco Nation Podcast Field Reporter.

by Crissie on Aug 17, 2010 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I buy that

As long as no one is putting Florida and Texas ahead of Boise State, we’re cool. Oh yeah, and you can’t put TCU ahead of us either…..let’s wait till week 8 when everyone has forgot about our victory over Tech so TCU can jump us then.

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by JRig on Aug 17, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

What were you drinking?

Had to be pretty hard, like moonshine for you to put BYU at #12

by Vandal Hater on Aug 17, 2010 12:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Oops.

Ohio State is getting way too much hype for beating the second best WAC team in the Rose Bowl. And I’d lose CMU and Clemson for the Beavers and North Carolina. After last year Oklahoma has to earn their way back on the list.

by zatoichi on Aug 17, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah. Wait for the second poll.

His preseason poll is just a duplicate of last year’s end-of-season poll. Which seems as legit as any other way to do a preseason poll.

by Egnowit on Aug 17, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rank Navy.

Rank Navy. Do it. They are good, they have a cupcake schedule and you’ll be three weeks ahead of the party, looking like a fortune-teller.

by Spyder Mayhem on Aug 17, 2010 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree.

I was going to make a recommendation to rank Navy also but since you beat me to the punch I will just echo your sentiments. I am saying they should be ranked probably in the lower 5 spots somewhere.

by Mountngrown on Aug 18, 2010 5:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we forget the fact that our Broncos started D1 in 96, play on blue field, and play in WAC:

… all of which are completely irrelevant to how well a team actually plays

1. Boise State (returns 20 of 22 starters from best team in 2009)
2. TCU (runner-up to last year’s “true” nat’l champ)
3. Florida (coach & raw talent puts them over the rest of Top 10)
4. Iowa (they’re still underappreciated & have the experience to continue to surprise)
5. Virginia Tech (only the #1 defense in nation can stop their running attack)
6. Ohio State (good, but will fail against Iowa)
7. Oregon (#1 PAC-10 again – controversy will give team something to prove)
8. Bama (too tough for any team to repeat)
9. Pitt (best Big East team that is overshadowed by Big 10, SEC)
10. Wisconsin (return entire offensive line; will finally live up to potential)
11. Stanford (it won’t be long ‘til Harbough is scooped up…)
12. Miami (will find more consistency in ’10 than ’09)
13. Florida State (team will begin to break free of the old man’s shadow)
14. Penn State (team will continue to be shackled by JoPa’s conservative approach)
15. Texas (fans will begin to appreciate just how good Colt McCoy actually is/was)
16. Oregon State (will lose Civil War again… still no Roses for the Beavs)
17. Navy (much better than many give credit for… run system to perfection)
18. Georgia Tech (ACC is a difficult conference to get momentum in)
19. U of South Florida (So much talent in the state of Florida…)
20. North Carolina (Get used to baseball-like final scores)
21. LSU (they’re tired of being overshadowed by Florida & Bama, but have a ways to go)
22. Nevada (the WAC is not a D3 conference)
23. Connecticut (watch out for another rising program)
24. Houston (get used to basketball-like final scores)
25. Michigan (RichRod will be coaching for his life)

"On your way up, don't let me down" - Bob Marley, on his deathbed to his son Ziggy

by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Aug 17, 2010 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

les miles new coach of michigan wolverines in 2011.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 2 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 17, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

In fact

Texas typically ranks lower in the Harris than coaches or computer polls where the BCS is concerned. There are many, many, many anti-Texas Harris appointees. See 2008.

With that said, I think you need to sprinkle in a set of Carolinas (North and South) in the top 15 and an Auburn in the 18-22 range.

Agree with your 20-25 AP ouster list except USC. If we are to include them (which we should since they are fielding a team), they are definitely a top 8 squad. I don’t care who is coaching them.

I also think Wisconsin is not getting enough top 10 run. I’d put them in there ahead of Penn State.

As for the Broncos, yep, you guys are a top 5 squad. Good luck this year.

by TXStampede on Aug 17, 2010 5:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks - good luck to you as well

Maybe we’ll meet in Glendale!

"On your way up, don't let me down" - Bob Marley, on his deathbed to his son Ziggy

by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Aug 18, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's fine exactly the way it is.

I have the exact thinking you have Kevan (or MKing, whoever is writing this article).

You should earn your ranking, and that’s what BYU did by going Whatever-2 last season. If were us and we did that well the previous season, I would want to be ranked that high as well.

The ONLY thing I would change is have BSU #3 over Florida, because we all know it was Craig James who put them there at the end of the season.

I know MKing may disagree with me, but throughout the season, I would do my rankings something like this:

excuse the big-televen refernce… they had a lot of teams in a conference division to show as an example, that’s the ONLY reason why they’re dispalyed
Just like in conference play, except rank them via division now. If 120 Div 1-A teams play for the first week (they don’t, some have byes, some play Div1AA opponents), then half of them will lose. The highest any losing team would be ranked after that week would be 60th. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. It will be confusing at first, but that’s why we shouldn’t be ranking teams until the 4th week of college football anyway. If you heave 8 undefeated teams by week 4, then they’re ranked 1-8. that’s the only time judgement would come into play… ranking those 1-8.. then ranking 9-13 for the 1-loss teams, etc, etc, and so forth.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson

by Loque on Aug 17, 2010 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

actually you have a new enemy and his name is brian griese.

said va. tech will beat you guys easily. jesse palmer went the other way.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 2 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 17, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did see that

Didn’t he say they were too big and strong?…. Last I checked, big and strong doesn’t win games against teams that are good. I will take the football players at BSU over the Athletes anywhere else.

R.I.P. John Wooden, Wizard of Westwood

by bsu415 on Aug 17, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep he did.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 2 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 18, 2010 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Without his last name

Griese would have been forgotten years ago. But, apparently you can wash out of the NFL while struggling with daddy issues and still land a gig on ESPN. Come to think of it, I don’t even remember his college years as anything special, either. Same with Palmer. Y’know…The Bachelor.

Anyhoo, these are the same jackanapes who were assuring a TCU win in the last F-Bowl.

by kcam on Aug 18, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bad week to only have mobile internet.

Loque – I also believe wins should be the driving factor but schedule has to account for something. I have a formula that I created that gives teams credit for wins but also factors losses on a weighted scale to prevent a complete cupcake schedule allowing a team to be highly ranked. Hawaii 2007 was ranked 21st after an undefeated regular season with the formula. BSU was 5th at the end of the regular season last year.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Aug 18, 2010 2:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

sounds sweet.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson

by Loque on Aug 18, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for the dog pic

you know me… :-)

"On your way up, don't let me down" - Bob Marley, on his deathbed to his son Ziggy

by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Aug 18, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

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