Who will be Boise State's starting running back? [Season Preview]
Boise State's running back position is one of the deepest in all of college football and probably a good one-third of the pros. How will Bronco coaches pick among Jeremy Avery, Doug Martin, D.J. Harper, and others for the starting job on Labor Day night? Maybe they'll start by reading this post. (They won't.)
OBNUG's season previews kick off with a rollicking reflection on all things running back. Join Drew and I as we discuss, debate, and disagree on who will be Boise State's starting running back this season, and feel free to share your thoughts in the comments. Here we go.
In case you haven't heard, Boise State is going to win a national championship this year. OBNUG's season previews are here to explain why. First up: Running backs.
Boise State's running back roster
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Roundtable: Who will be Boise State's starting running back on Labor Day night?
Seems like an easy enough question, right? Wrong-o. Drew and I wrestle with the topic, things get said, feelings get hurt, and we wind up no closer to a conclusion than when we started. Kind of like an episode of College Football Live with Mark May and Lou Holtz.
Kevan starts things off:
The Boise State football team returns 20 of 22 starters off a Fiesta Bowl champion team, so how hard can it be to predict the starting lineup come September? Apparently very hard.
Nate Potter is a guard, Byron Hout is a linebacker, D.J. Harper is healthy, Brad Elkin has everyone's expectations exactly where he wants them. This is a team in transition just because. Boise State's infatuation with getting better every day is what sets it apart from the rest of the country. What other school would be gutsy enough to unguarantee everyone's starting spots off a BCS champion? That would be like telling the Apollo astronauts, "Well, good job up there on the moon, but we've got some other guys we're pretty high on. This is kind of awkward!"

So where does that leave us starter-wise? Only my favorite place: somewhere between reading between the lines and complete guessing. Who is going to start on opening night in Washington D.C.? I have as little idea as anyone, although probably a little more than Troy Oppie. I am almost halfway sure it will not be the same 20 guys who saw the field against TCU. I am at least 25 percent positive Derrell Acrey will be involved. I have no clue what to make of the third wide receiver position.
I'm glad we're starting off with something I do have a clue about: Running backs. Mark my words, OBNUG friends, Jeremy Avery will be running back No. 1 from the start of Fall Camp, through the middle part where Michael Atkinson injures an ankle somehow, and all the way up to opening night. Don't want to believe me? I don't want to believe myself either. I love Doug Martin so much it hurts, but I have come to grips with the fact that Martin is like an unattainable high school crush and Avery is the steady girlfriend I have come to tolerate. Would I like to see Martin starting? Yes. Do I live in a dream world where genies grant my every wish and peas taste like Skittles? Not yet.
Besides, I have convinced myself that Boise State is better off with the Avery-Martin RB dynamic. Start Jeremy Avery for the first couple quarters and save Doug Martin for later in the game to destroy tired defenses. I have no idea where D.J. Harper fits in here. Last year, I thought he was better than both Avery and Martin. This year, thinking about his knee cartilage keeps me up at night.
But allow me to fire the first salvo for the 2011 roster roundtable: D.J. Harper will be the starter. Oh wait, Doug Martin will still be here. And Malcolm Johnson will be a sophomore. Argh, this is hard!
Oh, and I almost forgot. Matt Kaiserman still exists. Nuts.
Drew's response:
I can't tell you how much I want you to be wrong on this one, Kevan. Don't get me wrong...Jeremy Avery is a fine running back and we're lucky to have him, and D.J. Harper, if healthy, could be an All-WAC performer.
The fact is, Doug Martin should be, and dare I say, will be the starter against Virginia Tech and here's why: Doug Martin can be a dominant running back. Avery is a home-run threat, no doubt, and D.J. Harper shows impressive speed around the edge. Both Avery and Harper could win games for the Broncos (especially games against Fresno State). Only one running back on the team can take over a game, however, and that running back, in my humble opinion, is Doug Martin.
Martin has speed, quickness, physicality, and most importantly—he runs downhill. You need only revisit the 2006 season to see what a downhill runner can do for a team. Heck, go back and look at Brock Forsey's entire career if you must...and Doug Martin probably has 30 pounds on Forsey. Martin attacks defenders, carries defenders, and simply refuses to go down on first contact. That is the type of running back we need against Virginia Tech on Labor Day...and it's the type of running back we need all season long if we want to achieve the unthinkable.
Sure we can use a dash of lightning with Jeremy Avery...a sprinkling of Thunder with D.J. Harper...but the starter needs to be the one who possesses the most terrible combination of the two: Thrightning. Doug Martin's got it. He also has a pet snake.
To recap: Jeremy Avery = slippery, D.J. Harper = balance, Doug Martin = demoralizing
Kevan's response:
Thrightning. I think that's what happened to my bowels during TCU's last drive in the Fiesta Bowl.
Drew, you are everything I hope to become because you are fearless in predicting the good for the Broncos. Coach Pete has made it very clear this offseason that no one's starting job is safe, yet I simply cannot fathom a Labor Day opener without Jeremy Avery starting off the game with a two-yard carry up the middle. It is predestined, and yet Coach Pete says predestination doesn't exist?
I refuse to believe that anyone other than Avery will be starting on September 6, but I cannot debate that point on the basis of "He's always been the starter even when he wasn't that good." Doing so would be lazy and, knowing what we know about Boise State's roster shuffling, just plain false.
Therefore, I believe that Avery will be in the starting lineup because he is legitimately the better starting running back than Doug Martin. Haters gonna hate, but that is the only way that Avery sees starting backfield time against VT. And as I said above, he will see starting backfield time against VT. I'm not going to go back on my word only 10 paragraphs from when I first said it, at least not until the defensive line roundtable.
So let's think about this. How and why and where and in what universe is Jeremy Avery the best option as a starter? Here's my theory: The Boise State running game is designed to increase in efficiency over the course of a game. It starts out sluggish while the line gets comfortable and while Bryan Harsin figures out which formations and shifts get the best matchups for the plays. By the third and fourth quarter, holes are bigger, gaps are wider, and runs are longer.
Think about it: Ian Johnson was the starter in 2008 and was not that great. Jeremy Avery was the backup and was amazing. One year later, Avery takes over at No. 1 and suddenly Doug Martin is the business as the backup (same with D.J. Harper). It's a product of the system.
Boise State likes having Avery start because he provides that home run threat where he can break one off even when the play isn't there. If you're resigned to getting two or three yards per pop in the first half, why not go with a back who can make something out of nothing on occasion? Of course, Martin can break big plays with the best of them, but like you mentioned above, home run hitting is Jeremy Avery's specialty. That, and having his lower legs mistaken for Go-Gurt.

I've said too much about this and probably lost my Doug Martin Fan Club frequent gusher card. Rebut?
Drew's response:
So you're saying that the coaches shouldn't and won't put the best back in early in the game for strategery? What makes Avery the better starter? Is it that he runs a 4.44 40 instead of Martin's pathetic 4.46? Martin can bench 385, squat 530, and eats Grape Nuts for breakfast. The dude is a freak athlete who can throw off hapless DBs and run over linebackers, and he doesn't need the line's best play to do it. Why wouldn't you start him?
Say your theory about the Boise State run game holds water. If the goal is to increase in efficiency as the game unfolds (which I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be)...why not start off with the bruiser and then toss in the juker when the linebackers' legs are burning? I can't see a reason why starting with Mike Tyson is a worse strategy than starting with Sugar Ray, unless we're talking about the band Sugar Ray...they fit every occasion.
So...while I don't believe your prediction is far-fetched...I think your logic behind it is fundamentally flawed. Doug Martin is a more complete back than Avery, thus he should and will be the starter. Oh...I forgot about DJ Harper. Guess knee injuries are directly related to blogger amnesia.
Kevan's response:
I don't like being wrong, so I'm going to be stubborn and drag this RB debate on unnecessarily. Then I will probably resort to namecalling. I won a debate in fourth grade doing exactly this.
If Boise State starts with Martin by plowing him into the backs of offensive linemen and gutting out four-yard gains that really should only be two-yard gains except that he is an Adonis, Martin will be looking like Jarvis Hodge come the fourth quarter. Avery, while less of a complete back (although I would debate that point too ... and probably lose), makes sense to start the game because you want to save your best (Martin) for last. Would you rather have the inferior back get the majority of his carries in the first quarter or the fourth quarter? I believe that Boise State prefers the first.
Also, if Doug Martin were the starter and history repeats itself (a la Johnson and Avery), we will be clamoring for Matt Kaiserman by midseason. And unlike Tom Scott, I am not ready for that.
Drew's response:
O ye of little faith. You have been fleeced by the notion that Doug Martin is human. This is like people calling for Mike Coughlin to start in 2009. Sure, it was fine to make that judgment call before the '08 season began...things were different then. But then we saw what Kellsy was capable of and there was no turning back. I'm not advocating for Martin for any strategic or sentimental reason...it's that I've seen what he can do. It is terrifying.
Doug doesn't need to hit the holes quickly...he'll just create holes. He's the Kool-Aid Man of the Boise State team.
Avery was our 1,000 yard rusher in 2009, but I guar-an-tee that Martin could have achieved the 1,000-yard mark easily if he'd been given the carries. Besides, I'd rather have wanton destruction from my running back (speaking of which, it's time for some wonton destruction at Quik Wok). Martin should be the starter, Avery should be the change-of-pace back, and Doug Harper should really talk to Max Corbet because his name still isn't on my roster.
Kevan's response:
Agree to disagree? When in Rome. I cannot argue with the obvious - Doug Martin was a better running back than Jeremy Avery last year. I know it, you know it, Mark Johnson has no idea what we're talking about. Yet as sure as I am that Doug Martin was sent to earth to deliver us from the impending robot singularity, I am just as sure that Avery will be starting against Virginia Tech. If it's not because of my possibly flawed theory above, then it will be for some other reason. Pass protection? Playbook knowledge? Receiving skills? I don't know, which is why I'm writing about the team from the comfort of my Bronco boxer-briefs and Coach Pete is on the field making decisions that will shape my life.
Now watch D.J. Harper win the starting job and make us all look like doofuses.
Other questions plaguing the Boise State running back position
- What will Matt Kaiserman's role be?
- What does Jarvis Hodge do with all that free time?
- Is Malcolm Johnson really the future of the Boise State running back position?
- Will the Wild Avery formation return?
- Can Boise State get three running backs on the field all at once?
The state of Boise State's running back position, on a scale of Paul J. Schneiders
With five Paul J. Schneiders being good and one Paul J. Schneider being San Jose State.





Your turn
Who do you think will be Boise State's starter at running back? Think my theory about saving the best for last is inane? Share your thoughts in the comments, and vote in the poll.
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Great stuff
Do the wild Beavis formation. 5 on the line, QB, 5 running backs. Crazy but effective. Confuse the heck out of them.
PENALTY! Yellow Flag!
Illegal formation! 5 yards….
Good idea, but bsubuff, you know better than that.
I know. Huddle. Let’s line all 3 of these great backs in an old “T Formation”
When this formation debuted, the Chicago Bears beat the Washington Redskins 73-0.
73-0!
Harsin hasn’t returned my call yet.
And that's another Bronco... FIRST DOWN!!
Although Pete says the best will play
I have to think that there is a little seniority bias. At least with a very good Jeremey Avery. He IS very good but not at all as good as Martin for reasons already stated above. I think Avery will start but once the game starts, I see Martin being much more effective against VT’s D and will get the majority of the carries as the game plays on. I if Harper is really healthy save him for the second quarter, they wont know what hit them.
There was no category listing Harper & Avery (kinda' sounds like a fancy facial soap) as "or".
I think, and apparently the OBNUG readership agrees with me, that mere inertia will have Avery as starter. I think in the Bronco scheme its not all that. If you ask me (or anyone else probably) who is the best runner on the Broncos, a 100% DJ would be near unanimous. Martin has been surpassing, but somehow the depth chart genie leaves him behind Avery. Johnson’s “academic” issues- often the melanoma mole re status with team. Just read “4ever” while posting; agree with “seniority bias”. 4ever has the handle (sounds like a mediocre Prince song complete with numeral standing for “for” as in “I would die 4 u”).
tvmunson
Harper is the true homerun threat
He is probably faster than Avery and hits the hole almost as hard as Martin.
I am predicting Harper. He’s been my guy since he got here.
BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.
by Belexes on Aug 10, 2010 8:53 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Not much on Van Morrison so that went over my head.
I don’t own any Van or Jim.
BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.
I voted Harper
Granted Martin did a great job for a converted backer. and Avery is shifty, but if Harper is a 100% it will be his job.
P.S. I’m getting ancey, the trip to DC is occupying my ever other thought right now!
by Darth Prophet on Aug 11, 2010 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions
If being able to turn a pass into something big plays into it, I'll go with Avery.
I can’t see Pete going with someone other than the senior to start.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
Mark Johnson would have them...
1 – Jeremy Martin
2 – Doug Harper
3 – D.J. Avery
by bhopefull on Aug 10, 2010 9:05 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
HA!! This Is Going GREEN. Definitly.
I was responding to the first post when this came in. Rec’d. Too funny.
And that's another Bronco... FIRST DOWN!!
Wrong order
1- Doug Harper
2 DJ Avery Jeremy Martin
3
Doesn't matter
As long as the bulldozer that is Dan Paul lines up in the backfield I think the holes will open up very nicely. I think Avery gets the start but we see early healthy doses of Martin and Harper. I almost feel like we could win this game just running the ball if something happens at Quarterback and we have to depend on Coughlin. We are very lucky to have this kind of depth. Remember when we had Lee Marks and that was it?
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
I was prepared to defend Avery's spot as the starter...
but as I looked deeper at the stats it is hard to defend his position as the #1 back based on rushing performance alone. As much as BSU uses subs and different packages it doesn’t matter who the starter is. Weren’t there a couple of times last year that Avery would be announced as the starter, and as soon as his name faded from the starting lineup graphic, DJ would come out and get the first carry?
For you statheads, small sample size aside, Harper was the best among the three with 6.5 yards per carry which was skewed by some big runs on only 43 carries. Take out gains of 30 or more and he averaged 3.9 YPC – Avery also had 3.9YPC with the big gains removed. Martin averages 4.55 in the same scenario.
As far as Avery being a home run threat, he did have three huge runs of nearly 70 yards or more. But Avery only had 11 rushes of 15 yards or more. Doug Martin had 12 rushes of more than 15 yards on 79 fewer carries.
Martin appears to be the more well-rounded rusher, but each back brings different things to the table and BSU’s offense is more versatile as a result. My sense is that Avery is the better receiver out of the backfield. The other intangibles such at blitz pickup may be the deciding factor in which back sees the field the most.
If there is no runaway leader coming out of fall camp, Avery will likely still be the starter even if it is just the seniority bias mentioned above. In the end, the carries will probably be fairly equal and each will have games where they get hot and get more reps.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
Make no mistake about it...
Boise State will bust out the Wishbone formation in the first drive against Virginia Tech. This is why all the practices are closed and there is only one public scrimmage.
Boise State will find a way to use ALL THREE of our monster running backs in the first drive of the game. All at once. And they’ll stay in just long enough to allow Kellen Moore to throw a deep strike to Titus Young, breaking the iron will of the Hokies with trickeration and dirty cheap plays.
Who throws a fade route deep out of the wishbone?
The best team in the history of the universe.
Ooh...
I’ll take some of that Spyder. I like it.
by Drew Roberts on Aug 10, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
rec'd
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Aug 10, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Avery is versitle.
At the beginning of the game, you want to get that defense second guessing. Avery does that by not just runs, but by misdirection, outside sweeps, and flat screens (not the TVs). He’ll be the starter because of that. Doug Martin is the man that gets us out of a stagnant rut. So if we hit it, he’ll be there bulldozing 70 yards down the field.
If we were Alabama or Ohio State, Martin would be our starter. But we’re not. Boise State likes it loose and flexible. Thus, Avery will be the starter.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Also.
Can we get the “Doug Mad Doug Smash Formation” going?
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Doug Martin
Doug Martin once beat up Bill Brasky in a barfight.
by Art Pennypacker on Aug 10, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions
the stooges
If Doug Martin, Jeremy Avery and DJ Harper were the three stooges, Doug Martin would be “Mo”.
by Art Pennypacker on Aug 10, 2010 11:45 AM PDT reply actions
Doug Martin should be the starting back. He can block, he runs tuff between the tackles, and grinds up yards. He alone has the ability to wear down defensive lines and linebackers. His skill set would allow him to soften up the defense setting the stage for DJ and Jeremy. That being said, I seriously doubt he acually is the starting back (mostly because I am not nearly as football smart as Coach Pete).
DJ Harper would be my second choice. He was the starting back last season and if his ACL injury is healed and he is 100% as it appears, he will be a force to be reckoned with. He started last year and if he is back to form you have to give him a realistic shot at it again this season.
Now that I have officially torpedoed any chance Martin and Harper had of starting you can likely count on Jeremy Avery being the starter against VT. I actually prefer the skill sets of Martin and Harper early in the game but what do I know.
Regardless of who starts Kevan has one thing wrong. The first offensive play of the VT game will not be an Avery run up the middle for two yards. Instead I am anticipating a play-action pass with Moore connecting deep with Titus Young on the fist play from scrimmage.
I think back to my youth watching Godzilla and I think King Ghidorah best represents our backfield.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/cb20090711153303/godzilla/images/d/d3/KingGhidorah_Neo.jpg
If I was any good at photo shop I would put the players heads in but I suck so here you go.
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
I hate to try and void an entire article...
But I’m gunna.
Does it matter who starts? Mikrino hinted at it up there ^… I say it doesn’t.
But for sake of choosing: I see Jeremy Avery starting, and here is my reason why:
We will come out in a no huddle the first possession, with scripted plays. One of them will undoubtedly be some sort of screen or flare to a runningback, and Avery is our best reciever out of the backfield. Boo-yah.
Old enough to know better, too young to care.
Emmit Smith could line up back there
but without the propper blocking schemes and disciplined athletic offensive linemen the RBs will run straight into the ground.
"...I want everyone to think here for a second. How much does this game mean to you? If it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast. You play strong. You go out there and dominate the guy you're playing against, and make his a** quit. That's our trademark. That's our M.O. as a team. That's what people know us as..."
Even if it was Dancing With The Stars Emmitt?
by Rand McNalley on Aug 10, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, this is very concerning.
Thank you, Alabama fan, for letting us know how BIG TIME FOOTBAW works. Perhaps there are some other fundamental pointers you’d like to give to the winningest college football program in the last decade? Maybe there are some other basic skills that might be overlooked by the only two-time Paul “Bear” Bryant Award-winning head coach? I’ll make sure to pass this on to the four returning offensive linemen on our roster so they might finally know what, exactly, offensive linemen are supposed to do. “THIS COMES STRAIGHT FROM AN SEC FAN!” I’ll scream as I approach them. And they, like I am right now, shall be humbled.
I’ll have to read your words very slowly, though. The sheer natural speed of your SEC comments makes them hard to hear.
by Spyder Mayhem on Aug 10, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
You better believe it!
When an SEC RB runs a 4.42 forty? It’s actually faster than a non-SEC RB’s 4.42 forty. It’s scientific!
Starter
The truth is you could make a solid argument for any one of the 3. But, I don’t think the coaches are going to do that. It’s wide open going into fall camp. The one that preforms the best EARNS the starting spot and the majority of the carries. All will get their time in the backfield, but one will rise to the top in fall camp.
If you ask me who will that back be at the end of camp?
DJ Harper-Watch it happen!
(PS-I reserve the right to be completely wrong)
Doug Martin
There’s a rumor that Doug Martin once crushed a coconut with his bare hand, looked down at it and with a fiendish chortle proclaimed “you know, a human skull is easier to crack”….. I’m just saying that’s what I heard…
by Art Pennypacker on Aug 11, 2010 12:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Mythbusters should look into that
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
Screw this year.....
I think this is a no brainer. The coaches are going to use the one with the biggest home run threat. In every sense of the phrase, Avery is that threat.
Now, on to better discussions….. (not that this isn’t fun, because no matter who starts, the other two will get just as many series during a game, if not more)……
The real question is who will start next year: Martin or Harper??? Let the ball carrier wars begin!!!
It's only fitting Doug Martin is not a dog guy or a cat guy
But rather a snake guy.
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."

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