Don't buy what the 2010 Wyoming Cowoys are selling [Team Preview]
Wyoming finished the 2009 season with a bowl win and a whole lot of help. Will that do them any good in 2010? After the jump, get a rundown of all things Wyoming, and weigh in with your thoughts on the Cowboys in the comments.
In a nutshell: Wyoming's magical 2009 was a season to remember, and good thing because 2010 could be one to forget. Close wins made UW look better than they were, which means the Cowboys are still a ways away from being the MWC contender they hope to be.
To get you ready for the season, OBNUG is previewing each team on Boise State's schedule, even the WAC ones. Today: Wyoming.
I know what you did last season
Wyoming beat Fresno State in a bowl, which was harbinger of very bad things for my bowl pick 'em results. For the Cowboys, though, the win was a triumphant exclamation point on a season that helped revive football in the state of Wyoming. If 6-6 regular seasons are all it takes, then those Wyoming folk must be easy to please.
Context for 2010
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Last year's record: 7-6 Returning starters: 15 total, 8 offense, 7 defense Strength of schedule: No. 42 |

By the time you are done reading this team preview, you are probably going to think that I hate the Wyoming Cowboys. That is not true. Well, it's not true until the week of September 18 at least.
Head coach Dave Christensen is the Mountain West's version of Robb Akey, sans moustache and affinity for Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader. Christensen seems to get along simply by believing in his players and willing the team to victory with the sheer force of his powerful belief in team. That's good and all if you're in a movie with Denzel Washington about football set against a backdrop of racial segregation, but if you're trying to invoke continued success in a Division I-A football program? That's not going to work.
Wyoming is going to need some big leaps from sophomore QB Austyn Carta-Samuels and WR David Leonard - two of the Cowboys' brightest offensive stars. They are going to need some more sturdy defensive performances from LB Brian Hendricks and CBs Marcell and Tashaun Gipson. And they are going to need to stop scheduling Texas because, seriously, what are they hoping to accomplish with that?
If Wyoming was a summer movie
Dinner with Schmucks. In this case, Wyoming is hosting the dinner, and everyone who thinks they are going to challenge TCU, BYU, and Utah at the top of the Mountain West are schumcks.

The five most important questions facing the Wyoming Cowboys
No. 1: Will Ausyn Carta-Samuels keep progressing?
Laramie folk have reason to believe that, yes, Carta-Samuels will keep getting better. He did so last year when he was thrown into the fire as a freshman, albeit with a considerably abridged playbook, and told to make plays. And plays he did make. He is a run-pass threat, which means he doesn't pass extremely well or often. Still, he found a way to complete 58 percent and throw fewer picks than TDs. If Christensen is the new Robb Akey, Carta-Samuels appears to be the new Colin Kaepernick. OBNUG temp, to the joke recycler! STAT!
No. 2: Close wins still count as real wins, right?
Sure, you can believe that if you want. Fact is that close wins sometimes create the false sense that a team is good when they are not. In Wyoming's case, the Cowboys won four games with fourth-quarter rallies. Now, you could say that this is a sign of perseverance and determination - both good skills to have as a football team. But football is too random to have so many close wins repeat themselves year after year. Good teams win going away, not coming from behind.
For that matter, the losses for Wyoming weren't exactly close ones. The six losses were by an average of 27 points. Seems to me that the Cowboys were a lot closer to a 2-10 team than a 10-2 team.
No. 3: Should I save money by pre-ordering my Las Vegas Bowl tickets now?
Not so fast. Wyoming will be in bowl contention on the inexorable will of Dave Christensen alone, but a surefire bowl bid is not cut-and-dry. The Cowboys have the same tough competition in the conference as usual, and combine that with dates against Texas, Boise State, and Toledo, and you have yourself another win-loss record that will come down to the wire. The schedule ends with SDSU, New Mexico, UNLV, and Colorado State, so if Wyoming isn't 0-8 by that point, you can start entertaining bowl thoughts.
No. 4: What in the world is Texas doing on the schedule?
I have no idea, but it is going to end badly.
No. 5: I heard something about Utah leaving the Mountain West. That means Wyoming is the new Utah, right?
You're funny. Wyoming is definitely a team on the rise, but give them at least another year before you anoint them the next Utah. The Cowboys should have lots of starters back for 2011, including up to nine on the defensive side of the ball and the whole front seven. 2011 will be the time for serious preseason bowl talk.
What other people think of the Cowboys
Pre-Snap Read: No. 76
Orlando Sentinel: No. 100
Best player
The senior safety led the team in tackles last year and provided a steady presence on an above average Wyoming defense. Expect Prosinski to get a lot of attention as a Mountain West DPOY candidate and certainly a consideration on the Mountain West First-Team.
Mark your motivational calendars
- September 11 - @ Texas
- September 18 - vs. Boise State
- September 25 - vs. Air Force
In addition to this trio of near certain losses, the Cowboys also get another three-pack of defeat when TCU, Utah, and BYU hit the schedule in succession. I pity poor Toledo stuck in the middle of these trios. Wyoming is going to want to get its licks in while it can.
Way too early score prediction
Boise State 44, Wyoming 0
Boise State eats run-pass quarterbacks for breakfast. Austyn Carta-Samuels is a cinnamon and sugar Pop Tart if ever I saw one.
Will Wyoming help Boise State's strength of schedule?
Probably not. The Cowboys are considered better than most WAC schools, but by the time UW's 2010 schedule has its way with them, the Cowboys are going to look awfully feeble in the eyes of the national media. Craig James will probably try to vote them somewhere in the 200's.
OBNUG vs. a one-year-old child
To see just how fruitless predicting actual records are at this stage of the game, I enlisted a one-year-old child to challenge me in a win-loss prediction contest. She picked pieces of paper at random. I assumed the guise of research.
- My prediction: 5-7
- A one-year-old's prediction: 4-8
Looks like I suddenly have a rooting interest in Wyoming vs. New Mexico.
Best case scenario
Carta-Samuels turns into a super playmaker, the team pulls an upset or two over a top-tier Mountain West team, and the Cowboys finish in the top three in the conference.
Worst case scenario
Losses, losses everywhere, and the Cowboys are left to pick up the pieces for a rebound 2011.
Your turn
What do you make of the 2010 Wyoming Cowboys? Think they are better than I am making them out to be? Worried at all about Carta-Samuels' QB skills or Dave Christensen's mojo? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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I'd like to argue the nutshell
Wyoming was breaking a brand new coach, new offense, new defense, new QB… NEW EVERYTHING. And they still were able to overachieve. If you watched the New Mexico Bowl last year, you know that their FROSH starting QB is legit (see epic drive to send game into overtime) and that the defense has some heart (see overtime goal-line stand). Now, I just read the nutshell so you may have put this stuff in your post already, but from what I read, you haven’t watched the Wyoming Cowboys very much.
Mountain West Connection - The best site for MWC Sports.
UNLV is going all the way this year!
Cowboy Fan in 2010
Remember this Post! Wyo will win 7 games this year! They will be much more competitive with Texas, Boise, TCU, BYU, but will lose. They will knock off Air Force and Utah at home in 2010. Their progress will be to be much more competitive with the big teams and then continue to knock off the others! The key is the offensive line…can they protect and control the line of scrimmage???
Broncos-Cowboys are a scary team.
Lest we forget- the last time we were in Laramie it was spooky. Only 10 offensive points. Scandrick’s late pick came on a drive that was very solid. We werent tested like that until San Jose as I recall. Bottom Line: this is a solid program. I recall the team that faced Dinwiddie on th eblue; mostly frosh an dsoph, but exceedingly physical and gave a better game then the score suggests. I’ll do my best to appease the karma gods before this one.
P.S. Where did Weber get that helmet logo, off a Hellman’s mayonnaise jar?
P.P.S. I am not obsessed about helmet logos. No I’m not. No I’m not. No I’m not . No I’m not . No I"m not. No you are. No you are. No you sre.
tvmunson
I'm going to contradict myself
And say they’re better than you make them out to be, but I think your 5-7 prediction is likely accurate.
Reads like an article by an SEC fan written about Boise State
Wow. Uh…I hope this kind of attitude regarding Boise State’s opponents isn’t contagious. Making fun of WAC teams…fair game. Making fun of a small time college/program and their potential to upset some big caliber teams (hey Tennessee, what’s up?) not so much. I’m not saying the prediction is off, I’m just saying they’ve already proven they can get up for a big game.
by ThePhlipinSituation on Jul 7, 2010 4:02 PM PDT reply actions
The problem with Wyoming
is thephlipinsituation they are in. Too many tough teams, which means too many loses. I thought 5-7 was probably generous. You dont play Texas, BSU, Utah, TCU, BYU, and Air Force, all better teams, and not take a beating. Do i think they cold beat… one, two of those teams? Sure. Could it be BSU? You bet. But could they also lose to colorado state, SDSU, UNLV, or Toledo? Yes. Could they lose to New Mexico? Probably not.
Old enough to know better, too young to care.
Kudos
Well played sir…well played.
by ThePhlipinSituation on Jul 9, 2010 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions
To be totally fair to Wyoming,
they have a tendency to play big teams close but lose the game thanks to one spectacular quarter (usually the third). That Tennessee game was really an exception to the rule, as much as it pains me to admit.
Side notes
The Bowl Wins poster pic is great, and the victory by Wyoming over Fresno last year was the beginning of the end of my bowl pick’em too. I thought I’d have an edge on MWC/WAC picks over these self loving SEC nutjobs down here in South Carolina…not so much.
by ThePhlipinSituation on Jul 7, 2010 4:06 PM PDT reply actions
not so fast my friend...
44-0? i say there’s gonna be at least a 10 spot put on the board….
Noel.Diggity.....NO DOUBT!
pick em
Can you believe that Andre Ware picked Wyoming to go into Austin and beat Texas? He must be smoking the same stuff that Rob Akey has up in Moscow. The game between Boise St and Wyoming will be close for a quarter. Then Doug Martin starts to get his carries…. and then it will be all over.
Contrary to some newcomers...
…excellent read. Kevan always has a flare for comedy in his analysis of opposing team … or does he?..
So, what’s going to be excited for Wyoming when Boise joins the MWC? Boise State will need a new Bronco Stadium-East. Wyoming should do their best to try and make Laramie, and the rest of Wyoming via I-80 on the way there, appealing to travelling Broncos. Twice the distance than Logan with a whole lotta this isn’t going to help their cause:

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Not a newcomer
And see if you can close that gapin hole you call a mouth long enough to understand not everyone thinks being a pompous d bag is the best way to represent your team. I see your posts everywhere Loque. I know you understand the frustration of having bigger programs crap on our program’s accomplishments (SEC fans on ESPN blog). Listen…Get back to focusing on punking the Bamas, USCs, Floridas, and Ohio States of the world and stop being a (BW) arrogant d-bag. Some of you on here need to pull your heads off each other’s laps long enough to admit you’re starting to sound like the pompous elitists we’ve fought so hard to overcome. I’m a Boise State fan, I hate Mark May, and I hate fans that crap on smaller programs under the guise of “being clever”. It’s one thing to argue the quality of your program…it’s another thing to argue the LACK of quality of another program (out of conference). Boy, I didn’t realize that we had an honorary invite to act like a bunch of SEC tools (see how they refer to Boise State). Football is won on the field, not in someone’s blow hard mouth.
by ThePhlipinSituation on Jul 10, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
No worries!
I try to pick the fights I can win. It just so happens that Wyoming isn’t a pretty place. If you don’t like it, I’m sorry, but any fight I pick is going to be in fun. I could have gone the Mikrino route which I remind my sister (who’s lived/s in Gillette, Rock Springs, and Evanston), “If god ever forgot a place, it was Wyoming,” but I didn’t (unless mentioning that counts).
I can’t apologize for how I poke fun at the competition, especially if it is in jest and not related to college football. I hope you can understand that, sir! Besides, I really DO want Wyoming to become a well traveled Bronco spot. It’ll be nic to have some good Boise in-league competition.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
tell me more about Cowoys, Kevan
What is a cowoy and why did Wyoming pick it as their mascot?
by hummerofdoom on Jul 8, 2010 6:13 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
A Google Search on "Cowoy" Returns 31,300 Hits
So it’s a common mistake.
And a bad omen. We need this game just as much as a win in D.C., dang nabit.
And that's another Bronco... FIRST DOWN!!
This Is My Trap Game
Especially after this article.
It’s like that corny old movie line, “Its quiet… Too quiet”
Sure, 44-0 on paper. Or The Blue. But at Laramie sandwiched between our two marque games… I don’t like it.
And that's another Bronco... FIRST DOWN!!
It's too bad football games have two halves then.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
You Fellas Are Right. No Need to Get Up For This Cupcake.
We’re Goliath and they’re David.
Wait a minute… nevermind.
And that's another Bronco... FIRST DOWN!!
Slow down, Turbo.
Nobody said anything of the sort.
Playing Texas close for a half means nothing. Especially a year later. you can play all your opponents close for a half and go 0-12. But hey, at least you played them close for a half?
You call it a “trap” game solely because it sits in between two BCS opponents? I don’t buy that. There’s a full twelve days between the Opener in D.C. and the stop in Laramie. Win or Lose on Sept. 6th, the Broncos will “get up” for the Cowboys. Trust me on that.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
Trap games don't exist for Boise
Unless you’re vacationing in December in Hawaii and you realize you have a conference game to play tomorrow.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Oh, to continue my thought...
Boise State never has any games held in between 2 games. They always have one game, and one game after that, and one game after that… Boise won’t know anything about Boise State until the bus/plane trip back from Laramie.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Besides,
I’m a fan, I can overlook whoever I want. SO there!

Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
The last game there was ugly.
Looks like a trap to me too.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jul 8, 2010 7:27 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
So let me get this straight. Last time we had Boise in Laramie was 2006 when they went undefeated and beat Oklahoma. In that game, which I was at, they put up 10 points on our D and won by 7 on a pick-six in the fourth quarter. 44-0? hahaha. Seriously.
Well, we're angry.
Our coach wasn’t flipped the bird when we scored that pick-6. Ever since, we’re wanted revenge.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
we’ve*
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
by Loque on Jul 8, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Loque is referring to their Coach Glenn flipping off Utah that year
for the onside kick with the score 43-0.
but making your point JP (and mine-see above) we didnt score in 2nd half
Broncos beware the karma gods do speak!
tvmunson
Do you think we will put up 10 this year?
You made some good points, we’ll have to see if this turns out to be a good rivalry in the years to come. (I personaly don’t see the 44-0 score in Wyoming, now Bronco Stadium that would be quite differnt).
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jul 8, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The best D on the field that day was the weather...
they put up 10 points on our D
As I recall, and it may be fuzzy because I believe that game was the last BSU not to be televised locally, it was an unseasonably cold, wet and windy day (in the 30’s?). Neither team could throw and both defenses loaded up on the run. There was something like 13 punts in the game and other than the three combined scoring drives, neither team threatened in the opposing team’s side of the field. I am not sure BSU even threw for more the 100 yards.
Unless your farmer’s almanac says the weather will push the freezing mark once again on September 18th, I think it is safe to say the Bronco offense will put up more than 10 points.
Normally I would point to Laramie as a possible trap game, but with a 12 day gap from the Va Tech game, I see the team being rested and well prepared going into the Wyoming game.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
Check this out.
The ESPN box score doesn’t mention anything about weather, but check out where it was played!!
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
I am not sure what the weather was like in Little Rock....
but best I can tell, game time temperature in Laramie was mid-forties with 20-30mph winds with gusts up to 40mph.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
temperature in Laramie was mid-forties with 20-30mph winds with gusts up to 40mph.
You just described Wyoming, 300 days of the year.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
Ok, well last time we played in Boise it was 2007 at it was 24-14. AND we weren’t very good. Look, of course you guys are favored, and you are the better team. If you weren’t playing us I would leave to see you run the table and be natty champs. I’m just glad someone had to open their big fat mouth and talk uneeded smack right about a formidable opponent inbetween two of your biggest games. Karma gods indeed, because we play you guys tough, and now Coach DC and our whole team have probably read this article. Looks to be all the makings of a good rivalry.
Just wanted to thank you for posting.
It adds a little flavor to the site to see fans from other schools put in their 2 cents. I know the Pokes play hard, and it should be a great game. It hasn’t happened yet, but it has that trip to Ruston feel for me. It never seemed like a sure win down there, and I think visiting Cowboy land will have that same feeling.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jul 8, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Wyoming has the Montana thing going. Kids in that state just want to play there.
Plus your helmet log has Message & Myth, unlike ours, which has neither. Ignore bleedblue below; its very hot in boise and that coupled with Broncos-jonesing is driving us a little batty.
tvmunson
Dont let them tell you I'm obsessed with helmet logos. You're new here and they'll tell you that.
I’m not. I’m not. dont listen to them. they’ll tell you I’m paranoid. oh here thye come-no more shots!
tvmunson
This also happened back in 2007. Look for more of it this year.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
Coach DC and the whole team has probably read this?
This is how they spend their summer? Reading a blog? This is their posterboard material?
A guy (cant remember his name) on ESPN College Football Live predicted Wyo to beat Tex this year. What does the team think about that? What do they think about their preseason rankings of 73 and 100?
You had better hope kids on the team aren’t reading OBNUG during their spare time.
Old enough to know better, too young to care.
This article
just made me extend my DC trip by a few days so that we can stop in Laramie on the way home. Anyone else going to be there? It should be a good game.
OBNUG Resident Mom and Bronco Nation Podcast Field Reporter.
and you were right about the pick-six, if I recall correctly we did throw another pick in the 4th when we were driving down the field.
Yes as I noted above in warning my fellow OBNUGers about the redoubtable Cowboys you guys were
putting together a very threatening drive when your qb overshot anf got picked by scnadrick (now with the cowboys of dallas). We msut concentrate on VT first but anyone who pencils in the Cowboys as a “W” incurs the flames of the karma gods IMO.
tvmunson
Its only a trap game cuz...
well Wyoming is just so boring. Not much excitement on the way there ya kno?
And those putrid jersey colors…can we say yuck!?
Shake It Kid
All the newspaper editors cheer Wyoming bc they want to write COWBOYS BUST BRONCOS. karma gods rarely so obvious.
tvmunson
I-80 is a dump, ill definitely give you guys that. Broncos, orange and blue? Very original. I can’t think of any other team like it.
by James Purdy on Jul 8, 2010 10:46 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't get it...
…what colors are you referring to?
#thetrapisset
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
I'll take this one Loque.
We were the orange and blue broncos before the other orange and blue broncos were orange and blue broncos. As a matter of fact, well I think its fact, they were brown and yellow. Well now, where did Wyoming get their color scheme?* Very Original. I can’t think of any other team like it.
*I have no idea where Woming came up with their color scheme, just found it interesting how that all worked out.
Old enough to know better, too young to care.
They match the state.
You ever drive through it?
From any direction you get to Wyoming, it gets worse:
1-80 from Utah: red rock and green sage → brown and boring.
West Yellowstone from Idaho: Teton beauty → smelling sulfur.
from Montana: Montana singing → choir of dirt
from Colorado: majestic mountains → barren hills (although they probably call them mountains)
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Hey Loque
Don’t talk me out of that trip. Wyoming is definitely looking like it’s going to be the hardest part of the drive, followed closely by Western Nebraska.
OBNUG Resident Mom and Bronco Nation Podcast Field Reporter.
Nebraska is just as boring as Wyoming is. Trust me.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
Wait wait!! Busters!!
I answered this question up above, let me post it here!
No but in all seriousness, I’m just saying the colors aren’t the best GoWyo. Brown and yellow don’t mix well, just look in the toilet next time =0
Shake It Kid
Thats why they play the game
Say what you want Kevan. I hope when Wyoming gets to enjoy the success Boise has had, our journalists and fans won’r run around pointing fingers and saying how lucky the other teams were to win, or how ugle their surrounding area is. Just remeber one thing after the game this fall in Laramie….You will have to back this kind of smack up every year. I remember the days when BSU wasn’t very good on the gridiron. Seems as though your memories of the 90’s have faded. Good luck to your team and show a little more class when you come visit my “ugly” state.
well...
There’s smack talk, and there’s analysis. Sure, Kevan took a few cheat shots, but that’s mostly from the jest in his writing. But analyzing that your wins were closer to losses that your losses were closer to wins is just that. It’s truth in observation.
I will take Wyoming more seriously when they prove that they’re to be taken seriously. Know who else gets jilted by us all the time? Nevada and Fresno State. Both of which have been doing more than WY the past few years.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
I remember the days when BSU wasn’t very good on the gridiron.
WAIT… you do?
Because I sure as hell have a hard time remembering that considering that they only have FIVE losing seasons in 42 years as a four-year school. And when I think of the fact that their all-time record is 354-144-2 (.710) which is good enough for 6th in all-time winning percentage, I really begin to wonder if you know what your talking about. Which must be the 1996 & 97 seasons in which they went 2-10 and 5-6, respectively. Keeping that in perspective, you’ll remember those were their first two seasons as a DIA school.
Let’s be realistic. Wyoming is 0-4 all-time against the Broncos and that’s what really matters here. The average game score is 27-14. Look at it however you like, but I think what Kevan intimated is that this Wyoming squad is not much different than the teams of yesteryear in Laramie; lots of potential, with absolutely nothing to show for it.
Look we’re going to be biased. This is after all a Boise State fan blog.
44-0? What are you smokin’ Kev?
When the Broncos shut people out its 58-0!
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
by Mikrino on Jul 8, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
The King returns!
L-B-J has nothing on Mi-Kri-No
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Your Welcome.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
42 years as a four-year school
Nice…42 whole years as a four year school. Rich history. And how much of that was Division I football? Oh, right, 14 years. Almost the same.
by high_plaiins on Jul 10, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
It must be nice to be a Wyoming fan.
You get to pick little tiny bits of pieces from an argument you were totally wasted on to just submit 1 reply.
/clap-clap-clap
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Plus you get to cover yourself in (BW)
day in and day out with those awful, awful colors =)
42 years is a long time. You or I might be dead in 42 years.
Shake It Kid
by BleedBlue75 on Jul 10, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you hear that?
That was the sound of the air made by the point of my comment sailing right over your head. Le’me ‘splain. No, is too much, le’me sum up.
You guys have had about ten years of relevant success. A few years were pretty phenomenal. Kudos. A lot of folks would argue a lot of the others were against mediocre opponents. Not to say you can’t be ridiculous on your own message board. That’s what they are for, no?
But using “42 years” as a reason why BSU has some kind of gilded history, or is some kind of national powerhouse, is just silly and misleading. Plus, in terms of universities, even 42 years is very short.
As to the game itself, I think you guys are really underestimating the difference a really good coach can make. DC is a good coach and a high character person. Talent level is on the rise at Wyo. Wyoming is going to give BSU a run for its money in Laramie this year and for years to come.
by high_plaiins on Jul 10, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I understand.
But 10 quality years of 14 D-1 football is really good.
What Mikrino was adding to that was our overall record is above 70% .. in any division that is dominant. PS. We’ve won a national championship at the Div 1-AA level. And before those 42 years? We’ve won Jr. College championship, too.
Regardless what span of time Boise State football has been around, you can’t just sarcastically say that their rise to prominence hasn’t been impressive.
I’ll give you that Boise is on an excellent streak right now — and that may not be the case in a few years. We really don’t know that. But Wyoming hasn’t been having any of those moments.
I think Christensen will be a great coach for Wyoming and even if it doesn’t work out, will get the program moving in the right direction. With the position he was at, he obviously saw something he liked about the program. But only time is going to tell that, not hyperbole and suggestion.
But listen. We can’t compare the Boise/Wyoming matchup from 2006 to this years matchup. Both teams were different; your coaches were different. To think practically the same Boise team which played well and defeated TCU in a major bowl game last year, in which that TCU team defeated Wyoming 45-10 in Laramie last year, will put up a challenge this year? I’m just not buying it. But, I’m also a Boise fan, so I can imagine we’ll never see eye to eye on this.
For all purposes, I hope Wyoming goes out and nails their OOC schedule and picks up their game in conference, too. But a long history in mediocrity does not beat out a short history in success.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
BUT!
Someone reminded me I do need to be respectful of our opponents position. I do want to thank you for explaining your initial comments. It really did sound like you were just picking and choosing against Mikrino’s great rebuttal, as there was not much to your argument. I do, however, stand on my comments just above.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Wyoming fans... THIS IS SO GREAT!
We’ve beaten the WAC into quietness numerous times and we just don’t get this smack-talk anymore! If it weren’t for Oregon last year, I almost wouldn’t know how to deal with it. I’m looking so forward to playing in the MWC where other teams can presume they will beat Boise and not have us laugh about it!!!
EXCELLENT!
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
HAHAHHA...yes indeed we have forgotten how it is to actually get a response back.
How exciting!! I wonder what TCU, UTAH, and BYU would have to say about all this “smack talk”?
The only reason were talking about Wyoming is bc we are definately not underestimating you guys, but that also doesn’t mean we give you any chances of winning =)
Shake It Kid
Agree Completely. And We Have Literary Disputatious Heavyweights at OBNUG
Let ’em bring it…
Munson, you take the first one. I’ll cover ya.
Hold my coat on the next one.
And that's another Bronco... FIRST DOWN!!
We have never heard that one before !
" Ok smurf turf " Your right, in our world, blue IS the only correct color ;)
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
Above posting for 'GoWyo'.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
the brown and gold colors are from the brown eyed susan. I actually didn’t like them at first either when I got to UW, but they do grow on you.
well...
You could never cheer against your team, nor their colors.
Maybe there’s a joke somewhere about Boise blue and orange being mixed up to make the Wyoming brown .. not sure who the joe would be on :o
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Schedule is real tough
They may have a worse record but they have a tough schedule. Their OOC is @ Texas, Boise State, @ Toledo and SUU the last two are nothing. But then they play 4 good MWC teams @TCU & @BYU. 6-6 will be tough unless they can get an upset, because Texas, Boise, TCU, BYU, Utah, and possibly AFA are built in loses. Also, included SDSU who will back for revenge after last years debacle against the Pokes.
I think they will be a better team but the W/L will not be there.
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44-0!!
Wow, I expect Wyoming to be able to get at least 13 on the board, even if it is in garbage time.
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To think I almost missed this thread.
First, an aside. I knew of the Denver Brown and Yellow long before the throwback games last year, but I hardly think that’s news to anybody anymore. The whole bit about getting the unis secondhand, etc. Those original Broncos colors had nothing to do with Wyoming, just as the current colors have nothing to do with Boise. I’m pretty sure they have everything do to with looking better on color televisions and being different than uniforms of other pro football teams (check and check).
Ok. As for the Boise/Wyoming game: On every normal front, Boise has the obvious advantage. It helps when you have good coaching in place for a long time. (See the rest of this post.) Wyoming’s one advantage is the climate: 7200 feet with no serious wind shelter available for the field. When it’s hot, the players dehydrate very quickly. When it’s cold, it’s really, really cold. Given that it’s the second game of the season, snow is not likely but not unrealistic; it snowed at least once in every calendar month when I was there. Either way, the lack of air is hard to anticipate. At 2700 feet with mostly California players, it’s a potential concern. But you should still win.
As for this:
If 6-6 regular seasons are all it takes, then those Wyoming folk must be easy to please.
Back in the ‘90s when I went to school at UW, we had some pretty darn good teams, thank you very much, though nobody ever cared to admit it. In fact, in 1996, UW went 10-2 and got passed over for any bowl consideration at all, even though that was the year that Notre Dame refused to play a bowl game because they weren’t ‘prestigious enough’. (For that, I fully sympathize with Boise’s quest for respect because we were on that road long before you.)
But after Tiller went to coach at Purdue, Wyoming went through a series of increasingly disastrous coaching hires. (Imagine replacing Petersen with Twiddles the Clown, then replacing Twiddles with a side of bacon. Opposing teams love bacon.) The first coach thankfully ended his term with a roaring bender that ended up with him and a co-ed on a pool table. (Wife = not happy.) The next was a defensive coach who decided he was the next great offensive mastermind. 2-loss seasons became 2-win seasons in a hurry.
Another aside: I hope your AD has Petersen’s replacement in mind. I know it’s not on your mind at the moment, but it’s amazing how fast a team can fall. We thought we had it all going for us as well.
Good stuff, good stuff.
Kind of a funny write up. But do yourself a favor Kevan, start making fun of BYU and their fans now. You’ll want Wyoming fans buying you drinks at the MWC Basketball tournament, any bowl game where you’re lucky enough to attend where the Cowboys are playing and in Laramie itself.
Also, since I’m full of sanctimonious crap, when you hear the phrase “It’s hard to recruit to Laramie, Wyoming”, just mentally add the word “pussies” between “recruit” and “to.” The last ten years haven’t been kind to the football program.
Looking forward to reading your future installments and having Boise State in the MWC.
Here's what's really funny...
yuck it up all you want about the big blow out in Laramie everyone is predicting. What’s really funny is that Wyoming is likely your 2nd or 3rd toughest opponent all season (trust me, I looked). So I’d like to read big Kev’s other predictions…let me guess….
Boise 91 Utah State 3
Boise 64 NMSU -18 (on the road if wondering why the offense was well contained)
Boise 102 Neveda 45 (oh…a close one)
I hope this isn’t what passes as any level of real football analysis in Idaho. If so, I’m really surprised at the level of insecurity of the BSU fan base after crushing the mighty WAC for a decade some big bowl wins. I would like to take a moment to thank the author for the following:
- Making it 100% clear that he know absolutely zero about Dave Christensen. As O coordinator, his teams have only rewritten the offensive record books everywhere he’s gone. Win one for the Gipper speeches didn’t do that and it’s not who he is.
- Not bothering to provide any context about WYO fans’ satisfaction with a 7-6 record (get it right!) If you had been 4-7 for he last three years, you’d be happy to with any bowl win too. Especially for a team that lost two of the top rushers in the history of the school and started the second most freshmen in the nation, with a new coach! Fundraising is up, recruits are bigger and faster, we actually recruit receivers now, we have a cohesive offensive strategy, and we actually play real teams (see next). The trend line is up…WYO fans have reason to be excited.
- Really…taking a shot at WYO for scheduling Texas. This, from a writer representing a school who definition of tough schedule is opening with (choose any Oregon school). The real question is…why aren’t you scheduling Texas? BSU scheduling strategy…play one real game each year (usually in week 1), play 17 cupcakes in the WAC, then prepare for a month and try to knock off the big boy. Then cry about no shot at a national championship…We’re all impressed.
- Insightful comments about what it will take for WYO to have a chance this year such as…the star players on offense and defense will have to play good…thanks, Kev
It will be a good game that BSU should win. A WYO upset would not shock me. I’ve seen crazy stuff in Laramie.
Kev, time to do the cut paste analysis for your next features on Louisiana Tech and Hawaii.
by SLC Poke on Jul 8, 2010 5:51 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure Christensen is a fine coach.
But since he chose to move to Laramie, he clearly is fighting some inner-demons. If he is as good as you say, he will be gone to less brown greener pastures by this time next year.
Obviously you're not a golfer...
Sour apples?
Gosh jolly, I wish I knew how to use bulletins so my posts would look more impressive!
1) Doesnt take much to rewrite record books when in the past years WYO only scores over 35 once in the past few seasons. But yes scoring 37 ONCE in the 2009 record book is rewriting those history books in WYO.
2) We RARELY ever have losing seasons so its hard to make a connection with WYO fans about how giddy and danddy they are about a 7-6 record.
3) Its not that we dont schedule Texas, its that Texas doesnt schedule us! Im baffaled as to how WYO’s AD lured Texas into WYO…do they have a secret love affair? Or did the players from Texas just want to play in the snow?
3a) Scheduling is changing, we will gladly show you in this upcoming season, the next one after that and so on..plus I like cupcakes. MWC here we come!
3b) TRY??? to knock off the big boy??? Uhm….I think we actually DOOOO it.
3c) SUCK OUR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHY, the plastic one for now!!
4) Kevan was being generous saying that the players have to play good. What I would say is the only way WYO has a chance this year is for them to….hmm hell I don’t think they have a chance this year. WAIT, let me check my crystal ball………nope, no such luck my friend, my balls say noooooo
=)
Have a nice day, this off season is a long oneeeeeeeeeeee!
Shake It Kid
Seriously?
Wyoming is definitely a team on the rise, but give them at least another year before you anoint them the next Utah. The Cowboys should have lots of starters back for 2011, including up to nine on the defensive side of the ball and the whole front seven. 2011 will be the time for serious preseason bowl talk.
We’re insecure? Kevan Lee basically says that Wyoming will challenge for the MWC championship and you get all bent out of shape because, what?, he thinks that will happen in 2011 and not 2010? That sounds rather insecure to me.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
I've never heard one cowboy fan say that WYO is the next UTAH...this year or next, or the next
Yes, Kev provides 3 lines of props after insulting for about 10 paragraphs. Noted.
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Kevan likely won’t respond to your comments, especially since he seems to be out of pocket today.
Seriously…you just signed up today, so I know the “rules” and general schtick of OBNUG should be familiar to you since it was presented when you clicked “join.” A recap is available on the front page if you need a refresher:
One Bronco Nation Under God (OBNUG) seeks to provide a source of relevant BSU news, mature BSU perspective, and biased BSU commentary with wit, reason, timeliness, and irreverence. That, and Vandal jokes.
Stick around and you will see that there are not many bloggers more knowledgeable than Kevan and the rest of the contributors here. Better yet, browse through the archives and get caught up on the general scene here. You’ll find out that this is a summer filler piece that is over 60 days away from kickoff. Be sure to come back closer to game week for a little more in depth analysis.
I like the spunk I see from Cowboy fans and I hope you guys stick around. One word of advice: Don’t bring the tired “you only play one game a year” argument unless you are prepared to back it up with any proof that shows BSU was ducking anybody. There are plenty of examples of teams avoiding BSU, including the mighty Florida Gators choosing Wyoming for an opener when BSU was available.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
They just don't know.
Kevan’s stomach will be in knots before the game with Wyoming. Why? Because his stomach is in knots before every game. He has more ulcers than anyone I know on this blog.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
I would VERY much challenge that !
I thought my sister, and I had that dept. covered !
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
I've got the MRI ready
Custom made, though. I got a RaBe source, some aluminum foil, and a Polaroid.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
I challenge it too
I’m a mess before every game. I was even a bit nervous before the UC Davis game last year. I can’t help it. I remember trying to explain that to someone on here and they didn’t get it.
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
What does Coach Pete say?
…." we should all be very paranoid " or something like that.t.
Soooo we have permission to be FREAKED OUT AND/OR SICK TO THE STOMACH BEFORE GAMES ! I feel much better already. Thanks Pete.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
Agreed
Wyoming will probably stay mediocre. /j
The review wasn’t that bad. You just can’t get over 44-0. And that’s fine, it’ll probably be more like 27 – 13.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
Okay, this is going to be fun...
•Making it 100% clear that he know absolutely zero about Dave Christensen. As O coordinator, his teams have only rewritten the offensive record books everywhere he’s gone.
Fair enough, but the highest scoring team in the last ten years resides in Boise, not wherever Dave Christensen lives. Let’s be honest though, setting records at Wyoming for offensive scoring won’t be much of a task. I imagine if they score above 25 three times in a row he’ll be voted governor.
What’s really funny is that Wyoming is likely your 2nd or 3rd toughest opponent all season (trust me, I looked).
That’s a matter of opinion, saying, (trust me, I looked) and the end of your sentence doesn’t make it fact. I’m happy for you and your bowl win against Fresno, but consider this, 98% of the people in ESPN’s bowl pick’em, didn’t pick Wyoming. That’s because Fresno is categorically viewed as a better team. I’d say Toledo is right up there with the mighty Cowboys too. Nevada is easily your equal and Hawaii is still just formidable in my opinion. But hey, we can dream can’t we?
•Not bothering to provide any context about WYO fans’ satisfaction with a 7-6 record (get it right!) If you had been 4-7 for he last three years, you’d be happy to with any bowl win too.
I can’t speak for Kevan, but nobody here cares about the struggles of WYO fans. This is a Boise State blog. Our Boise State writer endorsed Boise State? Wha?! Did he belittle your team? Awww…/wipes tear from eye.
Stick around, because every other team on the Broncos schedule is going to get the same treatment.
It will be a good game that BSU should win. A WYO upset would not shock me. I’ve seen crazy stuff in Laramie.
I’ve seen crazy stuff in Laramie too. Like the lack of an organized city street department. I swear those roads haven’t been tended to since Wyoming became a state.
In all seriousness, you’re being far too dramatic for me to laugh at. It isn’t a stretch to think that a Boise State blog would predict a Bronco blowout and take a few jabs at the opponent at the same time. Quit acting like somebody kicked you in the tenders and man up a bit.
See you in September…
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Wow...116 comments.
Gotta say, I’m impressed with the Wyoming fans already. This is the kind of back and forth we’re missing on this blog from our current WAC brethren.
They even showed up much better than any Hokie fans. Props to the “cowoys” (I could be a nice guy and fix Kev’s typo…but Mr. English Major will have to live with that one muhahahahaha).
Exactly
I’m honestly happy there’s some Cowboy fans here to represent their team. We haven’t hardly heard from any Hokies or Beavers.
I’m not gonna lie, I don’t know where 44-0 came from. I think Wyoming usually plays us pretty hard. With that said, I still think it’s going to be a blowout.
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
I sort of like the Cowoys.
It’s fun to participate in some intelligent back and forth. We’ll see you in September and I’m bringing my 5 children. You should be very afraid…
OBNUG Resident Mom and Bronco Nation Podcast Field Reporter.
I'mnot too happy with the older generation.
I grew up a Cougar .. and Cowboys in the late 80’s/early 90’s were not good people. Vandalism to our cars when visiting Laramie and drunken abusive language… If I had a better memory, I would almost equate it to a trip to Moscow. However, maybe that was then and this is now. ?
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
It all makes sense...
only a cougar fan would make similar generalizations of our fan base and state.
I look forward to a good game and one that will be closer than the Bronco might like. The drive to Laramie isn’t bad either…..just avoid Utah…..or I-80 west of Rawlins.
Um loq
Did you think the Wyoming fans would be sober??
by 4EverBleedBlue on Jul 9, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Back in that time, there was a lot of bad blood between fans of a lot of (then) WAC schools.
BYU-Wyoming was just one such rivalry; Wyo-CSU, BYU-Utah, CSU-Utah, CSU-USAFA, CSU-BYU, Wyo-Utah, and others all had incidents like that happen far to regularly. As is usually the case, the vast majority of people were well-mannered, but the jerks went largely unchecked.
I’m not going to comment on other fans, but I will freely admit that Wyoming fans could have handled themselves far better back then. I haven’t been around recently, but I assume that’s changed somewhat, given the lack of news reports.
Yes, too true.
Remember when players would clear the sidelines to fight in between the hashes? A small part of me misses that. maybe I should be a fan of the U…
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
A few years of being coached by Dimel and Koenning will do that to you.
I’m a broken record on this, but it still astounds me just how quickly things fell apart there.

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