New Carr smell: Will Fresno have a new QB to pin their hopes and dreams on in 2010? [Team Preview]
There was a time when Fresno State was the scourge of the non-BCS landscape. Pat Hill's mustache would take no prisoners and his "anyone, anywhere, anytime" mantra was quoted about 30 times during every broadcast. As Mike LaFontaine would say: Wha' Happened? Boise State...that's what happened. After Boise State abruptly ended Fresno State's star turn in 2001, they've been struggling mightily to locate their lost mojo. Their scheduling philosophy hasn't changed, but they aren't getting meaningful wins over the big boys anymore and some (read: everyone) are starting to wonder whether Pat Hill's still got it.
In a nutshell: Let's face it. Fresno State's biggest win in years was their 2005 loss to USC. Since then, the Bulldogs haven't even had a good grasp on second place in the WAC. Now, with a bit of a rebuilding year facing the squad, can Pat Hill pull out more mustache magic or will it be another disappointing year in 2010? Let's discuss.
To get you ready for the season, OBNUG is previewing each team on Boise State's schedule, even the WAC ones. Today: Fresno State.
I know what you did last season
After blanking UC-Davis in their opener 51-0, Fresno State proceeded to drop the next three contests in heartbreaking fashion—snatching defeat from the jaws of victory at Wisconsin, and then putting up valiant efforts against two ranked opponents, Boise State and Cincinnati, before ultimately falling short. So, what's the best way to rebound from a 1-3 start? Start playing the rest of the WAC schedule. Fresno ended up at 6-3 after playing their next 5 games, then stumbled badly, getting a shellacking in Reno, before finishing their regular season on a high note by beating Illinois of the Big Ten in an epic 53-52 scorefest (I didn't check, but I think 52 points is the most points scored by a Big Ten team in 35 years). Unfortunately for Fresno, Pat Hill still had an extra heartbreak for the squad that he'd been saving in his mustache, and the Bulldogs their second-straight bowl game to a MWC opponent—a double-OT loss to Wyoming in the Papa Murphy's Take-and-Bake brought to you by Coca-Cola Classic Bowl. Another 8-5 season, another perp walk back to Fresno.
My accountability group demands I bring up last season's preview
In the preseason, I showed much less concern about Fresno State than I did the entire 3rd quarter the game when we finally played them. I don't take back-to-back-to-back running back pwnage well.
I'm finished wringing my hands about Fresno...they implode year in and year out, and with no QB to speak of, I find it hard to believe they will even win their usual spate of OOC games. Ryan Mathews is a good back, but as far as I can tell, he suffers from that same disease that Samuel L. Jackson had in Unbreakable. Fresno will be lucky to finish 4th this year, although not having the crushing weight of high expectations on them this year might cause them to overachieve...but I'm not holding my breath.
Well, they kinda found a quarterback in Ryan Colburn, but it's the other Ryan I was wrong to be so cavalier about. Ryan Mathews, to put it mildly, drank Boise State's milkshake last year. I am not sad to see him go.
Context for 2010
- Last year's record: 8-5, 6-2 conference
- Returning starters: 16 (7 offense, 9 defense)
- Strength of schedule: No. 89
Most Boise State fans have a lot of respect for Fresno State. They have a colorful, straightforward coach...they play tough, hard-nosed football, and they have those cool green "V"s on the back of their helmets (it stands for "velociraptor, if you were wondering). What's not to like? Well, for starters, Fresno State is the one team that could consistently bolster Boise State's flagging S.O.S. but consistently crap the bed in conference and make our annual beating of the bulldogs into little more than a footnote. Is it too much to ask that you guys start pulling a little weight when it comes to propping up Boise State's schedule strength? We've given up on New Mexico State and San José...but you used to be different. How about this season you guys beat Cincy and Ole Miss before you come into Bronco Stadium and roll over, savvy?
If Fresno State was a summer movie
Knight and Day is a perfect analogy about the difference between Fresno State's expectations vs. their output.
The five most important questions facing the Fresno State Bulldogs
Will Derek Carr overtake Ryan Colburn?
I sure hope so...and not just because I feared for Colburn's very life in last year's Boise State-Fresno State game. I want to see if Derek Carr can back up his big talk with big play. Carr was allowed mop-up duty last season as a true-frosh, and attempted 14 passes—completing 10 of them (71%). The kid's got moxie and looks like he might be the real deal. It would be a shame if he didn't get a crack at Boise State before they head to greener pastures, especially after saying the following:
I want to beat Boise," Carr said. "I want to win a WAC championship and win a BCS game, but we first have to beat Boise to win the WAC.
Aw, how cute...he wants to avenge his brother. I for one hope that the Inigo Montoya of Fresno gets his shot.
Who'll replace Ryan Mathews?
That sucking sound you hear is the gaping, Ryan Mathews-shaped void in the Bulldog backfield. Mathews, who left school early and was rewarded with first-rounder money, was at times all the offense Fresno State could muster in 2009 as they asked him to tote the rock an amazing 276 times. Matthews repaid the favor by rushing for over 1,800 yards and 19 TDs (and that was just against Boise State /burn). To make matters worser for the run-first, run-second Bulldog offense, they also lose Mathews' wing-men Lonyae Miller and Anthony Harding to graduation and their speed-option QB Ebahn Feathers decided to transfer. So, the hopes and dreams of the Fresno State run game could rest squarely on the shoulders of 5'7" Robbie Rouse, who was the Bulldogs second-leading rusher in 2009. Rouse is a shifty lil' playmaker in the mold of Boise State's Jeremy Avery. He's certainly dangerous...but he shan't be rushing the ball nearly 300 times in 2010. Some other RBs will need to step up or Pat Hill may be forced to change his archaic game plan.
Will the offense get shaken up?
With Pat Hill running things? I doubt it. The Rushin' Bulldogs ran the ball 555 times last season and passed the ball only 321 times. That is not a balanced offense, but it really hasn't been since Pat Hill brought his special brand of boring smash-mouth football to the WAC. Look no further than our beloved Broncos to see what a balanced offense looks like. In 14 games last season, the Broncos had a 458/508 pass-to-run ratio. With the loss of Ryan Mathews, you'd think the Bulldogs would be forced to take a more centrist tack with the playcalling. Of course, they lose Seyi Ajirotutu and Chastin West from the WR corps, so they'll need some wide outs to step things up as well, but it's hard to imagine the Bulldog offense not taking a step back in 2010 with the losses they've suffered and the schemes anything but "plug and play".
How swiss cheesy will the defense be in 2010?
Fresno State better become seriously lactose intolerant in 2010 because that soup strainer that they call a defense has been horrible against the run of late. Horrible. The Bulldogs ranked 111th in the nation last season in stopping the run and surrendered 215 yards a game and nearly 3,000 yards to their 12 opponents. The only saving grace for the Bulldogs was a semi-good pass defense that ranked 32nd in the nation, but could not create turnovers to save their lives. Even arguably the best cornerback on the roster, A.J. Jefferson, had ZERO career INTs and he's since graduated. Fresno have a good linebacking unit and the D-line can play well, at times. They'll have to improve against the run by leaps and bounds and start getting takeaways or 2010 is going to be a LONG year.
Any newbs gonna step up?
SAM 'backer Travis Brown might be a very good one to watch. The true sophomore LB is the son of former Boise State linebacker and Fresno State D-coordinator Dan Brown. Dan sadly lost his battle with brain cancer last year, but his son Travis will continue the Brown legacy for the Bulldogs. Travis was a 4-star recruit for the 'dogs out of Fresno's Clovis West High School and the 11th rated player at his position when he signed on to play with the squad. Travis was a veritable tackling machine at CWHS, where he made 465(!) tackles over the course of his sophomore, junior, and senior years. If Travis can find his groove with the D in 2010, he and MLB Ben Jacobs will make quite a pair.
What other people think of the Bulldogs
- Sporting News: No. 81
- Orlando Sentinel: No. 46 (take this one with a grain of salt—he ranked Idaho 38th)
- Pre-snap Read: No. 52
Best player: LB Ben Jacobs
Jacobs was THE defense for the Bulldogs in 2009, registering 106 tackles on the year. No other Bulldog defender had more than 65 tackles last season, so Jacobs is far and away the bright spot for the D. Jacobs may want to tutor some of his mates on the finer points of tackling, because if he can get the others up-to-snuff, the Bulldog D might not be quite so anemic.
Mark your motivational calendars
- November 13: vs. Nevada
- November 19: @ Boise State
- November 27: vs. Idaho
Way too early score prediction
Boise State 45, Fresno State 24
Last time the Bulldogs played at Bronco Stadium, they went home with a 61-10 loss. I think Fresno might be more game this year and a lot more Brandstater-less. I think it'll be close til halftime and then Doug Martin will start trucking worn out linebackers.
Will Fresno help Boise State's strength of schedule?
A bit. Fresno is always good for 6 conference wins and should represent another bowl-eligible team on the Bronco schedule. They could really scratch Boise State's back if they notched wins over Cincinnati or Ole Miss. Sorry, we're not going to return the favor and scratch Pat Hill's.
OBNUG vs. a one-year-old child
- My prediction: 8-5
- A one-year-old's prediction: 11-1
I think you got into some tainted milk, baby.
Best case scenario
Ryan Colburn turns colossus, shakes off the loss of star running backs and wide receivers and goes 7-1 in conference and wins 3 out of 4 OOC games.
Worst case scenario
The spectre of a Ryan Mathews-less season weighs heavy on the Bulldog squad and they limp to an 0-3 start. 3 more losses in early November put the team in do-or-die mode to become bowl eligible.
Your turn
Can the Bulldogs make do without Ryan Mathews? Will Derek Carr get a chance to eat his tasty, tasty words? Will they have what it takes to ruin the Broncos' season?
Previously on OBNUG's season previews:
- Virginia Tech: A defense away from NC contenders
- Wyoming: The Idaho of the Mountain West
- Oregon State: The Virginia Tech of the Pac-10
- New Mexico State: Not as bad as usual
- Toledo: Your token MAC team
- San José State: Getting out the old man smell
- Louisiana Tech: It's always Sonny in Ruston
- Hawaii: Have a gay old time with the Warriors
- Nevada:: The skinny on Colin Kaepernick
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Derek Carr the Inigo Montoya of Fresno
That’s classic!
Thankfully there is no Westly or Fezzik in Fresno for support.
Fresno State
I would love to see Fresno beat Nevada. Our win over Fresno would sure mean more. It will be interesting to watch in the future who will take over in the WAC. I’m sure Akey has a false sense of security on that topic, but I’m confident 4 or 5 or 6 teams will stomp a mud puddle in the middle of the Seagulls.
by Phlapp on Jul 30, 2010 7:59 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Is it wrong that I have absolutely no fear of Fresno coming into Boise and leaving with a win?
Because I don’t.
All time against Fresno State in Bronco Stadium the average score is 48.6 (Broncos) to 13.8 (Bulldogs). I see no evidence that this changes at all this year. In fact, I see he spread being far worse.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
It won't be close at halftime.
Maybe at the 13 minute mark in the 1st quarter…maybe.
Pat Hill is Hulk Hogan’s grandpa.
Dull wit aside, Fresno finishes 7-6.
BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.
Hill-stache v. Akey-stache
When we first started playing FSU, I disliked Hill. No reason…other than being the coach of an opposing team. Then I realized I hated his Fu. I mean, c’mon, who still sports one of those? But I came around on him because he at least respected BSU and gave us some major props at times while winning exactly one game against us. Pretty good class.
Now contrast this with another coach with an ugly stache who has NO wins against us and still disses our program. No class.
61-10
That game was close at halftime too. Then, in about 8 football minutes, it was over. Ah, good times.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
Nice write up
I am glad to see Fresno St exposed. They get too much credit.
Losing to anyone, anywhere;
The hall of mediocrity (autographed helmets for big wins);
An unimaginative offense that allows them to lose games in the fourth quarter on a single big play;
Playing down to crappy opponents ……ugh.
Patty Hill taking a pay cut—delightful. Making more $$ that Boise State coaches suggests that he should have given up some cash for an offensive coordinator long ago.
What a joke...
These types of comments are what makes boise fans look so big-headed. Talk about getting too much credit, boise is hyped for playing with the big boys when, in reality, boise has only won ONE BCS-conference road game EVER!
How’s that for a reality check?
Go ahead, compare that state with Fresno State…
Check out the latest Fresno State chatter on the Bulldog Bounce blog at http://www.BulldogBounce.blogspot.com.
Check the head to head totals
Beating your chest when you play BCS teams tough (and lose), and then crapping your pants in the WAC might make Boise State fans appear ‘big-headed.’ You have more than a decade of data and the Bulldogs always fail to help our SOS.
Losing to Wisconsin and Cinci, and then getting beat by three scores at home (thank Mathews for keeping you within 4 touchdowns) doesn’t give me ‘a reality check.’
Past 10 years:
Wac championships—was the shared championship even in this decade?
Number of undefeated WAC seasons: 0
Number of one loss seasons: 0
Victories against Boise State: 1 (2005; with 9 losses)
2005 Note: Beat Boise State, lost to USC, wet self against Nevada, La Tech and Tulsa to finish with four consecutive losses. YAY!
The win at Autzen, the two Fiesta Bowls, ~5 wins at Fresno State….in a head to head comparison, I will take BSU’s resume over FSU’s. The head coach gets the big check, and gets the blame.
At any rate, the VaTech and OreSt games this year, and the Ole Miss game next year are as impressive a schedule as anything FSU has played.
And we will see you on the blue this year—-we can see who needs a reality check—on the field, where it really matters.
by ElPepeGrande on Aug 2, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Pay cut
Hill taking a pay cut was pretty classy, actually. California and its university system are having big time budget crises right now. Guys like Hill (and Coach Pete) are some of the highest paid public employees in the country. Taking a pay cut like Hill, or staying for less money like Pete, allows athletic programs to maintain continuity without forcing schools to fire adjunct profs just to have a good football team.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
It actually stands for "Vanilla"
The flavor of offense ran in the Valley.
by Drew Roberts on Jul 30, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know...
Did anyone check to see if that skin is real? There could be scales underneath.
BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.
Thank you.
For saying “old”
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Pat Hill is a Class Act
Fresno State could be getting ready to take the WAC back. They have certainly had a lot of problems the past few years and most of it has nothing to do with Pat Hill’s coaching. Unlike the Idaho Vandals, he and his team have come to Boise and showed a lot of poise and charisma over the years, showing good sportmanship and yet without a loss in pride as BSU defeated them year after year and stopped any dreams of winning the WAC. This year I think they will go 8-4 and next year perhaps regan the WAC title. I for one would like to see them in the Mountain West with us, as they have all the facilities, potential, and fan base to be like their coach: a class act unto themselves.
by bluesyourdaddy on Jul 30, 2010 2:37 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
Minus one flying battery tool.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
I think Loque is referring to the comment about Fresno's fanbase...
They aren’t exactly known for being “class acts” or even “non-violent”. Read: throwing batteries/tools (am I reading that right, Loque?)
Hawaii and Fresno can be dangerous places for fans. Maybe Kustra picked a fight with the wrong fanbase.
by Drew Roberts on Jul 30, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno
When I was downtown at bars before the human bowl when FSU was playing, their fans were all really cool, actually.
by killtacular on Jul 30, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Travelling fans being cool and home fans being unruly are definitely two different things.
Maybe them taking the booze away has improved the environment
by Drew Roberts on Jul 31, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
fan base a problem?
I’m an FSU Alum living in Southern CA. Believe me these fans your talking about are much fewer than you’d like to imagine. And even we hate them but catch a UCLA-USC game and then tell me about unruly fans. Wisconsin came in last year and had nothing but praise regrading our fan base. The unruly folks are a part of every program at every level. And believe me you have them to. It doesn’t I mean I assume that every BSU fan is represented by them. We’ve had the privilege thanks to Coach Hill of playing big conference teams and against their fan bases. Try playing at LSU (we have) and then talk to us about unruliness, CAL, Oregon, Oklahoma, Rutgers, Texas A&M and Oregon State fans take the cake. Go into Camp Randall Stadium, the Shoe, into the Delta, the Coliseum among other places and evaluate fan bases. You’ll see that there are far worse. Of course, it’s something you’ll never get to experience because that will mean you’ll have scheduled teams that just might pop your bubble (literally). I can understand that the fan bases of the Holy Are Thou Catholic school girl teams that you put on the BSU schedule aren’t as unruly as some… but when the BSU program finally decided to raise the bar and travel beyond. Then talk to me regarding fan bases. The last time I checked it was UCLA advertising in the Fresno papers discounted seats to games versus FSU and others. They manage to love our fan base. I can’t believe I actually read a post questioning if FSU would help the strength of schedule for BSU? Really??? Putting Fresno City College on the schedule would help BSU.
We're talking about if Fresno State will help Boise State's SOS this year.
Since no one knows how things will play out, it’s all a guessing game. Fresno is one of the only conference teams that can be counted on to bolster Boise State’s SOS on a yearly basis (2006 excluded, of course), but just how much they bolster it depends on how they perform in OOC games and if their conference losses are reasonable.
Also, the fanbase comments are relative to the WAC, not other schools. I’ve heard a lot of horror stories from Boise State fans that head to Fresno, but I’ve heard worse about those that travel to Hawaii. Fresno getting rid of the booze probably helped—I don’t think they’ve made that decision in Hawaii yet.
I have always liked Pat Hill.
He coaches with passion, and seems to really care about the Bulldog program, and players. Akey coaches with passion too, but in my opinion lacks a great deal of class. I wish coach Hill luck winning the WAC after we have gone to the MWC. Class act.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
Hey, I like Pat Hill too.
Favorite coach in the WAC easily behind Coach Pete. I just think the natives have to be getting a little restless. If he can start winning titles when BSU heads to the MWC, it will do a lot to de-stigmatize the guy (and the mustache)
by Drew Roberts on Jul 31, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
FS actually a fan of BSU!
I’m a FS alum and season ticket holder and I have to say that we have a love/hate relationship with BSU. I hear nothing but good things about BSU fans and Boise, I wish the same could be said about our fans. Yeah, it only takes a few idiots to give a fan-base a bad rap, but that’s where FS is at. It was a smart idea to move the student section from behind the visiting bench (hopefully no more batteries and screwdrivers, sorry for that). The real FS fans respect the heck out of BSU football, but that does’t mean that we don’t want to stomp you guys when we play you. BSU helps our SOS too, don’t forget that, but for it help we have to beat you guys. People in Fresno claim that BSU is our biggest rival; I disagree. You have to actually beat someone more than once in eight tries for to be considered a rivalry. BSU may be the team that FS fans want to beat the most, but it is far from a true rivalry. You’re right about the FS fans getting restless. It would be one thing if FS went 7-1 and lost to BSU every year that they went to the Fiesta Bowl, but FS can’t even beat Nevada and occasionally lose to Hawaii and La Tech. I think there was more to Pat Hill’s extension, than saving the school money. Once BSU leaves the WAC there are no more excuses and Pat Hill knows it, he needed to get an extension now or he won’t see one if they don’t win. I’m a huge Pat Hill supporter and I think he has taken this programs to a level it has never seen before, but I’m not sure if he has the ability to take FS to the next level like Coach Peterson does. Sure Fresno doesn’t have the talent to draw from like Pac-10 schools do, but it can’t be much worse than Boise or surly Nevada. FS cheers for BSU like crazy when they make it to the BCS and we wish were headed to the MWC with BSU, but a bunch of 3rd place WAC finishes aren’t exactly eye popping. Someone commented that “FS biggest win was a lost USC” that is so true, and FS fans know it. That loss was deflating way beyond 2005. The program has not been the same since!





















