WAC preseason poll: OBNUG's picks and your better ones
by Kevan Lee on Jul 22, 2010 7:58 AM PDT
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PrintBoise State's last hurrah at WAC media days begins on Monday when the conference's preseason poll and preseason players of the year are announced. It's about to get all obvious up in here.
Boise State is the clear-cut favorite and San Jose State is the clear-cut not, but how would you rank the rest of the teams in the middle? And should it be a clean sweep of preseason players of the year for the Broncos? Find out how Drew and I voted after the jump, and share your WAC preseason poll predictions in the comments.
Kevan's preseason picks:
In an obvious clerical error, the WAC allowed OBNUG to cast a real vote in this year's media poll, probably because they didn't realize I am on their mailing list and have access to a fax machine. Well, joke's on them. I do have access to a fax machine. And a label maker. What up, Karl Benson.
So what did I do with this newfound responsibility? Why homered it up for the Broncos, of course. Here's my preseason poll and POY picks.
- Boise State
- Fresno State
- Nevada
- Utah State
- Hawaii
- Louisiana Tech
- New Mexico State
- Idaho
- San Jose State
Offensive player of the year: QB Kellen Moore, Boise State
Defensive player of the year: CB Davon House, New Mexico State
I believe I have some explaining to do.
Let me start with my putting the Idaho Vandals eighth. How great is that, right? Dropping a bowl winner to eighth in the conference takes some moxie, covered in bias, and wrapped in passive aggressive personal agendas. But before you go thinking that I shirked my responsibility as actual WAC voter, know this: I have real reasons for picking them so low. Reasons like:
- Pythagorean wins. I wrote a terribly geeky FanPost about this the other day, which essentially boils down to the fact that the Vandals won more games last year than they should have. They were a paper tiger or, more accurately, a paper dung beetle. The maths don't lie.
- Offensive line. Idaho loses four out of five starters, including All-American Mike Iupati. That's not a good thing when you get your line depth from the Sizzler all you can eat shrimp challenge.
- The Vandals went 4-4 in the WAC last year. Of their four wins (NMSU, SJSU, Hawaii, LaTech), none were by more than two touchdowns. Of their four losses (Boise State, Nevada, Fresno, Utah State), three were by an average of 25 points. Idaho was clearly more competitive at the bottom of the WAC than they were at the top.
- Idaho is on the road for every WAC game they need to win this year (USU, Fresno, Hawaii, LaTech).
- None of Phil Steele's nine sets of power ratings call for a winning season. And I always believe Phil Steele when it is convenient for me.
But enough about the Vandals. The rest of my WAC picks deserve some attention, too. At the top of the conference I have the Broncos. Duh. I went with a slight curveball in the two and three spots, swapping Fresno and Nevada on the assumption that the Wolf Pack will screw the pooch at some point during the season since they'll be too focused on their season ender with Boise State.
I put Utah State way higher than they belong, picking them as the Idaho overachiever of 2010. Hawaii will be right there with the Aggies, competitive enough to challenge for a Hawaii Bowl and bad enough to give up 80 points to Nevada. Louisiana Tech will struggle with a new offensive system, New Mexico State will win a couple they probably shouldn't, and San Jose State will go winless.
Kellen Moore should be the WAC's unanimous OPOY, and if he's not, then I'll have some curt letters to write to the Nevada media. DPOY is anybody's game at this point, but probably not Davon House's game, even though I voted for him and at least a couple NMSU writers will vote for him. House is the Kyle Wilson of 2010, at least in my opinion. Although instead of a wrapped minivan, I imagine he'll get a wrapped GEO Tracker. That's how they roll in Las Cruces.
Drew's preseason picks: It's not homerism if it's the truth
Alright, to recap...I said:
- Duh
- Nevada
- Fresno
- La Tech
- Utah State
- Idaho
- Hawaii
- New Mexico State
- San José State
OPOY = Kellsy
DPOY = Jeron Johnson
Ok, so my pick for conference champ was literally a no-brainer. No homerism, eltisim, or any other -ism required to pick the Broncos to win their eighth WAC championship. They've run roughshod over the conference with lesser teams and the only game that should even be interesting will probably be in Reno...
Which is a nice segue into my pick for runner-up: Nevada. With one more season of the Angry Ostrich playing quarterback (and I say "playing" in the thespian sense), I can't help but think that hapless defenses will crash the middle of the field play after play while Kaepernick happily skips around the end for a 75-yard gain. Nevada's defense is godawful, but the offense will score enough points to win all but one of the Pack's WAC games.
Fresno gets the 3-spot because, well, Pat Hill may actually be coaching for his job now and maybe that will push them over the hump. Besides, they usually find a way to win against the dregs—but I do think they'll yet again lose to a team they shouldn't...maybe Hawaii? La Tech is at 4...I don't think they'll adapt to Sonny Dykes' spread offense as quick as they'd like to, but Ross Jenkins actually isn't that bad of a QB and I think they'll catch some teams napping. Utah State will once again get closer but go cigarless, but still beat up on Idaho yet again. Idaho will have their first successful trip to the islands since Kamehameha was running the show and kick around bottom-feeders NMSU and SJSU. Hawaii O-Five? Nah...they'll beat Charleston Southern, but a 1-4 start is a distinct possibility. I don't need to waste my breath on New Mexico State and San José State, do I? Pillowfight of the century on October 30th! Be there!
In conclusion: if Kellen Moore doesn't win OPOY honors, Mr. Fiskers will call up his cat buddies in the mafia, namely, Princess Fancybritches and Tabby Davis Junior. It could get ugly. Real ugly.
Jeron Johnson is a bit of a darkhorse, I'll admit, but I think he'll once again lead the best defense in the league in tackles and have at least five picks. I got nothin' else.
Drew out.
Your preseason poll
You've heard from the OBNUG team, now the OBNUG team wants to hear from you. What does your WAC preseason poll look like? Is your offensive player of the year anyone other than Kellen Moore? Would you take Johnson, Ryan Winterswyk, Winston Venable, or someone else as your DPOY?
Share your thoughts in the comments.
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My picks...
1. Boise State
2. Nevada
3. Louisiana Tech
4. Fresno State
5. Hawaii
6. Utah State
7. Idaho
8. New Mexico State
9. San Jose State
OPY- Kellen Moore
DPY- Jeron Showoff Johnson
No homerism here. Boise State isn’t just the elite of the WAC, they are right up there with the elite of the rest of the country this year. Nevada, if they choose to show up, will be very good. Louisiana Tech is close to being a real team. Fresno State has lost some mojo over the years, and I don’t see them finding it again this year. Hawaii is able to field a football team with players who probably deserve to play at the FBS level, giving them an advantage over the bottom of the pack. Utah State just seems to be missing something, and that something is depth and talent at multiple positions. Idaho’s offensive line issues won’t help them this year. Both NMSU and SJSU are just terrible, and the race for ninth will be more tightly contested than the race for first.
Kellen Moore has been amazing the past two seasons. The idea that, as a Junior, he might finally hit his stride and be totally comfortable on a college football field is terrifying. If he even progresses a little bit, things are going to be great. If he follows the path of most college players and improves significantly (Looking at you, long ball) then he deserves more than the WAC OPY.
Jeron Johnson makes my cold black heart warm. I haven’t seen a single defensive player on any other WAC team that can totally change the mood and outlook of the opposing offense so quickly and dramatically as Johnson can. One moment, everyone is playing college football, the sun is shining and things are good. The next, murder most foul takes place and one half of the field is gripped with terror for their own lives. Balls start getting dropped, quarterbacks panic and rush things and recievers stop running over the middle. That, more than anything, seperates Johnson from his peers.
by Spyder Mayhem on Jul 22, 2010 8:29 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
murder most foul
Love that line. Rec’d.
LaTech at No. 3, huh? Do you think that is more a result of a new coach and offense or the fact that most other WAC teams just aren’t that good?
"That was very sneaky of you." - Josh
Great post but
To say that Kellen is just now getting comfortable playing college football is silly. See Boise State @ University of Oregon 2008. The only time you’ll see him uncomfortable is in front of cameras and maybe when he receives my weekly hand written letters that are signed “Give me some Moore.”
by 4EverBleedBlue on Jul 22, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
right on 4Ever-remember him throwing to Childs on an out route, getting hammered so bad he got turned around,
and then, obviously reacting to his teammates on sideline and the concomitant silence of Auzten, gesturing he knew the pass was complete? He as more “ice water” than the Titanic.
and right re uncomfortable; when I told him at Winco he’ll be the best to play here, and I’d see everyone, he looked like a told him his fly was open.
tvmunson
That was EXACTLY
The play I had in mind Munson. He released that ball a split second before he took a huge hit and celebrated his completion from his stomach.
by 4EverBleedBlue on Jul 22, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also got nailed on his pass to Vinnie for the 70+ yard TD
arguably the biggest single play all year. There were great hits, but when VP ran in unopposed even on tv you could feel the air drain out of Auzten. They had just gotten a pick , then a Td and were only down 24-13 when we hit that one.
tvmunson
Oh, I know.
What I am saying is that most mortal college quarterbacks really settle down and get comfortable with their offense, the pressure and their teammates in their Junior year. Kellen already seems to have done this. I know that. You know that. Many college football publications also know that.
But imagine for a moment that he hasn’t. Imagine that the 26-1 Kellen Moore finally feels good and comfortable in his position as our team’s leader because the previous two years he didn’t and maybe we just didn’t know it. What would that even look like? Boggles the mind.
by Spyder Mayhem on Jul 22, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I did a little math last night, and this is what i discovered!
Colt McCoy is the NCAA most winningest QB with 45 wins! Kellen Moore has 26. If for the next 2 years Kellen and the broncos were to ONLY win only 10 out of even 12 games each year, Kellen will pass Colt as the winningest QB ever!!!
I can definitely agree
That he improved last year from the year before and if there is room for improvement this year from last year, yes, scary! Nervs have just never seen to be an issue which is one of the reasons he’s so great. He’s confident but not cocky.
by 4EverBleedBlue on Jul 22, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
1. Boise State
Heads and Shoulders
In alphabetical order;
2. Fresno State
3. Hawaii
4. Idaho
5. La. Tech
6. Nevada (take that!)
7. New Mexico State
8. San Jose State
9. Utah State
OPOY: Kellen Moore
DPOY: Kellen Moore
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
by Mikrino on Jul 22, 2010 8:34 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Kellen Moore for DPOY is a bold choice.
I like it.
by Drew Roberts on Jul 22, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
While we're being honest with ourselves ...
Moore could probably finish No. 9 in this conference by himself.
"That was very sneaky of you." - Josh
by Kevan Lee on Jul 22, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Kellen and Doug Martin would finish sixth......
And Chuck Norris’ beard would finish seventh.
by ElPepeGrande on Jul 26, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Picks!
No homerism needed, but I wasn’t afraid to use it anyway.
1. BSU
2. Nevada
3. Blah
4. Blah
5. Blah
6. Blah
7. Blah
8.Blah
9. Idaho
OPOY: Kellen Moore
DPOY: Kellen Moore – Sometimes an offense can be your best defense.*
*Pretty sure the saying is the other way around. These are my picks, it doesn’t matter.
Old enough to know better, too young to care.
My top ten.
1. Boise State
2. Fresno
3. Utah State- wishful thinking?
4. Navada
5. Hawaii
6. La. Tech
7. NMS
8. SJS
9. candles- right where they belong.
OPOY Kellen Moore
DPOY Winston Venable
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
Duh U wins it all
I don’t care about what order the rest of the conference finish up in.
Both O and D WAC players of the year should be from Duh, but since we are leaving, they will pick from the rest of the WAC.
I have a feeling the rest of the conference doesn’t think we are part of the conference this year and who ever finishes behind us in second place will consider themselves WAC champions.
BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.
They'll be happy to have us around.
We are helping WAC teams stay out of the red.
Old enough to know better, too young to care.
We're just a sugar daddy at this point.
They don’t love us anymore I am sure. :P
BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.
Conference Standings
1. BSU-
Even if somehow we drop a WAC Game, Broncos take their final WAC title.
2. Fresno State-
Pat Hill wrings all the magic left in his moustache to get a nearly dream season, gets a contract extension, yet fails to take over the WAC after we leave.
3. Utah State-
I know, right? I think the players on this team have a word not usually heard in that part of Utah-potential. I could easily see them slipping back to the bottom of the pack if they don’t live up to it, but why can’t the team to make the move on dominance after we move on be a dark horse. It’s not how you start, it’s how you finish, and all that. Most of the other teams in the WAC have proven to be mediocre-to-good at best and outright, worse than a 1-AA school bad at worst, and I’ll say they make the most of it.
4. Idaho-
Good enough to beat teams they shouldn’t. They’ll have just enough wins to think they have a chance against us in the Kiddie Dome, and be just bad enough to get blown out, again. Better than the bottom half of the WAC, but who isn’t?
5. Nevada-
What? But they’ve been the most competitive WAC team during the Kellen Moore era! People will admit Nevada’s D is terrible, but take it as a given that their offense will outscore more than they allow. I don’t agree. Maybe against the same teams that are worse than Idaho, but I think most moderately good teams will have an answer for Colin this year. Convincing wins, convincing losses, and an epic shootout against the Vandals?
6. Hawaii-
Bad year on the island. No one steps up, except the players June Jones is coaching at SMU (still better than Nevada). The Warriors pretend to be upset all over again about Macklin’s slur, and quietly fire him during the offseason while the Bronco’s National Title is still taking up most of the headlines.
7. La Tech -
It’s just a learing curve, and they lose lots of close games. They’ll be the better WAC Bulldogs next year.
8. NMSU-
High hopes fizzle early, but coach recieves a vote of confidence, gets a chance to try again in post-BSU landscape.
9. San Jose -
I agree with Kevan, winless. Hopeless. Bad for years bad. Utah State of a couple years ago bad. The thought of the Vandals in a BCS game bad.
OPOY-I’m going to go out on a limb and say Doug Martin. Why? Intuition….by which I mean that awesome OBNUG article (and ensuing podcast) about Doug’s beastliness in the weight room. I know Avery is super fast, and Harper is back, but I predict we get our first true primary back since Fiesta 1, and while I think Kellen will still be mostly error free, I think defenses will attack Kellen more (bad pun) and when our run game is asked to step up, Martin will more than answer the call. Then again, it could just be Kellen Moore. Or Titus Young, if kick return scores are counted in calculating this award. A Bronco, anyway.
DPOY-No clue. I don’t really know the defenders on other WAC teams because they don’t show up when they play Boise State. I like to watch Jeron obliterate people, but I’ll have to go with…ok, that’s enough. Jeron Johnson takes it, barely, over some guy I’ve never heard of, from a team that isn’t us. (Not San Jose).
Words cannot describe that Doug Martin pick
If Doug Martin can get to 1,500 yards and 25 TDs, you may just be onto something, Cf.
Would those stats be enough?
"That was very sneaky of you." - Josh
It's only WAC POY
I think those numbers might do it, esp. if Nevada falls as far as I think they will. As I said, it will probably be Kellen, but I just have a gut feeling that Doug Martin will emerge from the running back pack and claim not only the starting spot but a large part of the offense. I know, I know..I’ve been drinking OBNUG kool-aid, and I’m starting to see him as an offensive Marty Tadman, capable of doing it all…..but would you be truly surprised if somehow I was right? Maybe it will have to wait until Avery graduates, and Martin’s ascention won’t truly happen until we head to the MWC with a depleted recieving corps, but just like I picked Utah State to start making things happen sooner than later, I think our running game will step out of Kellen and the D’s collective shadows and that Doug will be why. Could easily be wrong, but you can’t escape preseason picks without making a few that are disasterous, and a few that make you look prophetic when failing to mention the bad ones you made. Hoping this is in the latter column.
by Cougarflounder on Jul 22, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
"paper dung beetle"-Kevan. The coprophagous qualities of this critter warrant mention/highlight
of a nasty dig at the Palouse Empire which may have gone unnoticed. Not by me. I claim the same leeway should I choose to vent in a somewhat similar vein re recent departure of Ms. Graham Cracker.
tvmunson
As to main topic you all obviously know a lot more than I do.
I cant’ take you on on the details. I think if KM wins OPY WAC may ( and I’m not sure how) want to keep Broncos from getting DPOY. Cant’s disagree about Johnson; I forget what our won/loss is with him starting, but it’s scary. To keep it intersting I’ll say ‘Swyck but many nat’l have picked him. I pick Crawford for NEWBIE, and I think Febis could be starting by end of season.
tvmunson
I wonder if Yates and Coach K could use Febios as CB/S hybrid a la the LB/S Venable?
Febis can cover off the corner, and weighs 200+ at 6’ 3"
tvmunson
OK, I will say it.
Kevan, as far as cat pictures go that one was priceless. Dogs have humans, cats have staff. lol.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jul 22, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
That almost makes me want to pick Princess Fancybritches as DPOY
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
Nice.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jul 22, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
1. BOISE STATE
2.-9. NevadaFresnoStateUtahStateHawaiiNewMexicoStateSanJoseStateLaTechIdaho…
Basically, the WAC is a one-team league and nothing else matters.
OPOY – Kellen
DPOY – Broncos’ Defensive Starters
Homerism included, free of charge
Noel.Diggity.....NO DOUBT!
1. Duh
2. Idaho (I think Akey made a deal with the devil. Fortunately the devil is afraid of Jeron Johnson)
3. Fresno State (will respond well to their bowl loss)
4. LaTech
5. Nevada (won’t)
6. Hawaii
7. New Mexico State
8. Utah State
9. San Jose State
OPOY – Kellen Moore
DPOY – Somebody from another team because the voters won’t vote in two Broncos
My picks
1. Boise State
2. Nevada (hurts to put them here, if their D continues to stink they will fall further)
3. Utah State (Will tie for 3rd, but will edge Fresno after Pat Hill’s annual Utah State fail)
4. Fresno State (With BSU gone in 2011, the Bulldogs can get back to winning preseason WAC titles)
5. La Tech (Please let Masoli land here so we can see the Robo QB one more time)
6. Hawaii (With June Jones gone, should bring back the Rainbow – make it a double rainbow and they win the WAC in 2011)
7. Idaho (Kevan’s math doesn’t lie)
8. New Mexico State (Can’t schedule enough FCS teams to get to 4 wins)
9. San Jose State (UC Davis may get more wins against WAC teams)
OPOY – Kellen Moore
DPOY – Winston Venable (only because Billy Winn’s stats as a DT will not be sexy enough)
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
Are you talking a
FULL DOUBLE RAINBOW?!!!! WHAT WOULD THAT MEEEAANNN???
by 4EverBleedBlue on Jul 22, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa, all the way. A double rainbow all the way across the sky.
/sob
by Drew Roberts on Jul 22, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't even capture it on my camera!
It’s starting to look like a triple rainbow!!!
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Jul 22, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
A trippple rainbow is impossible
…until you see Hawaii’s 3 WR set.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
just cause these are Drews picks
Broncos
Nevada
Fresno
La Tech
Utah State
Idaho
Hawaii
New Mexico State
San José State
OPOY: Kellen (wants) Moore
DPOY: Winston (absolutely) Venable
*Perfection is our goal, excellence will be tolerated*
Boise State
Fresno State
Nevada
La Tech
Idaho
Utah State
San Jose State
Hawai’i
New Mexico State
OPOY: Kellen Moore
DPOY: Brandyn Thompson
by Ihavenofriendzz on Jul 22, 2010 3:34 PM PDT reply actions
1. Boise St
2. Nevada
3. NV
4. La Tech
5. Utah St
6. Hawaii
7. Idaho
8. NMSU
9. SJSU
OPOY: Moore
DPOY: Winn
Voters will be forced to select a Bronco for DPOY. Stats and domination will be too big to ignore between Swyk, Winn, Veneble, and Johnson. Any one of those four could legitimately win it.
I really think that Idaho was living a dream last year and will come crashing back to earth this season. Enderle was sacked 20 times in only 11 games with what was supposed to be a pretty good o-line. Now the line is gone and he’s going to be running for his life. Good luck with that.
NV is going to put up huge offensive numbers only because I really don’t think other WAC coaches watch game film. Hey Akey, here’s a tip, put down the tumbler of Jack and Coke and watch the last 2 BSU/NV games. THAT is how to stop that gimmick called the Pistol.
La Tech may actually surprise some people. I was never impressed with Dooley. I thought they actually had some talent but constantly underachieved. They could surprise either Fresno or NV.
As for Fresno, the WAC can rest assured: they are still Fresno. Look for them to win a few and lose some that they shouldn’t. After watching Fresno’s last 2 bowl appearances along with season after season of underachieving, I almost see Pat Hill as Costanza in the episode where the Mets want to hire him. He was trying to get fired but couldn’t. “Attention, Steinbrenner Fresno St and front-office morons! Your triumphs mean nothing. You all stink. You can sit on it, and rotate! This is George Costanza. Pat Hill. I fear no reprisal! Extension 5-1-7-0!”
by MooreWalksOnWater on Jul 23, 2010 7:19 AM PDT reply actions
Kevan, you and the other Idaho haters should give it a rest.
Just don’t understand the fixation some have with putting down Idaho. If it was USC or Florida or any team filled with large ego’s I would understand, but giving it to Idaho?!?! It has something to do with attending one of these schools. Something happens to the conscious mind…maybe they slip something in the meatloaf and you become a forever hater. It’s funny, actually it’s more pathetic, but I guess small minds can’t reach high places and therefore doesn’t do any good for me or anyone to comment on.
Wish blogs had a hate filter, so you could just read the worthy posts.
I went to USC Law
So I always boo UCLA football, even though it sucks compared to the (sometimes cheating) awesomeness that is USC football. Boo! UCLA, you suck! Boo!
I do draw the line at those FUCLA t-shirts, but mostly because I’m in my thirties now.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
by marktgarten on Jul 23, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
It's Not That I Necessarily "Hate" All Vandals
I just think they are an inferior people. I think we can all agree on that, right?
Seriously, stop being so sensitive. A lot of the Vandal related bashing are based in facts/stats (see: Kevan’s “Pythagorean Wins” post) and are well thought out. The rest is just good old fashioned rivalry trash talk. If you can’t take it, maybe CFB isn’t for you.
by MooreWalksOnWater on Jul 23, 2010 10:25 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah between the "thought" police that cant' handle ANY salaciousness to these "hand-holders"-grow a pair
fer cryin’ out loud. This is the site for college football fans, not the Senior Ladies Guild of the Christian Science Knitting Circle.
tvmunson
And nobody's saying, "I hope Akey's children die of cancer" or anything like that.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
Hating Vandals...
That’s what we do here.
Mr. Turtle is disappointed you failed to remember this is a Bronco fan site…
I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!
by BSUFlyboy on Jul 23, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Let's not fool ourselves.
Quicks, you most definitely have a right to your opinion. However, there are good reasons for the distaste many Boise State fans have for all things vandal. I could start with Poky Allen etc. but I am not going to start a list for you. You are obviously a knowledgeable college football fan, and that’s what I find puzzling. I have yet to see these fan bases get along Ducks/Beavers, USC/UCLA, Utah/BYU, Texas/Oklahoma and so on. Why you think Broncos/vandals should be any different is difficult to understand. There has been bad blood between these two fan bases/teams for a long time. In my own opinion, the condescending, arrogant fans of that school ask for the treatment they have been given. Even when their team is being blown out this behavior continues. THAT tells me all I need to know about the Idaho Vandals, and their fan base. Until they can beat Boise State, they need to shut it, and show a little respect. If you feel this is not the case, I would encourage you to take a look this year at the on line Statesmans articles on Boise State football. It has nothing to do with the vandals, yet there they are doing exactly what they should not be doing. Taking cheap shots at a team that dominates them. Just my opinion, did not mean to offend anyone.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jul 23, 2010 9:42 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I was doing my best to be civil.
Normally, I am in no way kind in my posts concerning the vandals. I don’t want to make enemies here at OBNUG. I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone here would want to question (some of our distaste for all things vandal). I do not squat when I take a pee, and if you met me, the LAST thing you could say is “he has simpathy for, or likes the vandals” Sadly, I have been told repeatedly by vandal fans “Your a f***** jerk”. This does not make me macho, or bad, I am not. I just (I am going to use the word) ‘hate’ vandals. Munson, I understand why you posted your last comment. Well said.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jul 23, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No way blue did I mean You!
The “thought trend” was what I meant and I should have been clearer. I was thinking of quicks; if you read my remark under Moore in conjunction my point may have been more clear. I did not intend to besmirch your masculinity esp on this point. The fact that you had to respond at all (and your explication was excellent) to this refernce to “worthy posts” is what makes me want to puke. I’ve been told to tame it ; recently, my comments on the TCU yell team, whcih contained not one vulgarism, which used appropriate, dare I say erudite language (loamy- I wonder if any of the idiots even looked it up) was deemed to risque for this site. They were removed and I got a warning. And then to read this Nellie call us “pathetic” ‘cuz we let loose on the Vandals (I’m a grad, inlike some of my idiot rabid in-law Vandal fans)to have this Nellie say that. Grow some armpit hair; get a little on yoru chest while you’re at it. Stand up to pee rvrn if you miss the bowl like I do once in a while. I wish I hadnt gotten my back waxed now, although luckily they caught a growth bc of it. Biopsy showed pre-cancerous and they cut my back off Aug 6. but blue no way that was aimed at you mi hermano de OBNUG!
tvmunson
Yeah your right.....
I regret mentioning anything in angst of being labeled a weeny or having a lack of. I guess I tend to look at negative comments toward a diminutive team like continuing to pound on a nail that’s already an inch below the surface….it can’t get much lower, so…. ??
I’ve always felt you have to be up before I can knock you down and as far as being heckled by someone who is down…. well can that even happen? Kind of like a 6 year old attempting to mug you in a dark alley.
Maybe they’ll be able to put together another lucky season and you’ll see me firing a rock in their direction. But I don’t think it’s going to happen and they’ll return to the 2 win powerhouse they’ve been for the past decade.
Original comment wasn’t justified. This is a great site with some very knowledgeable writers and passionate readers. I will admit I occasionally sit in the mornings to keep from falling due to the tail end of an alcohol buzz. Glad to hear about the growth. Makes me consider getting a rap around mirror although I’m slowly losing my eye sight, so what’s the point.
Evidently, I miss understood. no surprise there. We're good.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
Picks
1. Boise State
2. Nevada
3. Fresno State
4. La Tech
5. Utah State
6. Hawaii
7. San Jose St.
8. Idaho
9. NMSU
OPOY: Moore is the obvious choice but I’m going in a different direction just because I can. Titus Young. He’s a triple threat with receiving, running, and returns. Fireworks can potentially go off every time Young touches the ball. He’ll score a lot of touchdowns again. It would be cool if he could get a big fat reward for it too.
DPOY: Jeron Johnson. JJ aspires to get over 100 tackles this season. He’s put extra focus this off-season limiting missed tackles. That focus will carry into the season as he finally hits three digits with tackles.
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
Well
1) BSU
2) Nevada
3) Fresno State
4) Idaho
5) Utah State
6) Hawai’i
7) Louisiana Tech
8) New Mexico State
9) San Jose State
You guys discount Idaho too much. Sure, they are horrible, horrible people. But still, despite losing their O-line, they will be better than the rest of the bottom of the WAC. Also: LaTech will suffer a falloff with their new coach for this year.
OPOY: Kellen Moore (duh)
DPOY: Duke Ihenacho, SJSU (he is good)
Because my NCAA11 dynasty says so.
- (2) Boise State 11-0, 7-0 (I love gameless schedules)
- (16) Fresno State 10-2, 7-1
- Nevada 9-3, 5-2
- Hawai’i 8-4, 4-3
- La Technicality 5-7, 4-4
- Utah State 5-6, 3-4 (glad to see we’re not the only team with just 11 game on schedule)
- Idaho 3-9, 2-6
- San Jose State 4-8, 2-6
- New Mexico State 1-11, 0-8
OPOY: Kellen Moore
DPOY: Chris Carter (Fresno)
I love how in this sense, video games control my life. Time to go play the BCS title game vs. Alabama (thank you Ga Tech for losing in your conference championship game).
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
LUCKY!
I went undefeated and all I got was the lousy Rose Bowl vs UW.
Finished regular season #4. Won Rose and finished #2.
by MooreWalksOnWater on Jul 25, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Just won the title!
Game winning FG from Brotzman on the left hash.
But yeah, I was booted all the way to 5 throughout the season. I was so wanting to get in that I watched the ACC chmpionship game CPU vs. CPU. It went to overtime and was fun to see Christian Ponder throw 3 interceptions, but they still got the win and put me vs. Alabama.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
haha
I had that exact same situation. I needed Ga. Tech to lose the ACC title game to make it the the ‘ship. Played Bama as well. was down 3-0 for 3qtrs, then scored 20 in the 4th and won 20-3. Bama has won every championship since… I’m in season 5, in the Pac 10, and still haven’t lost a game, yet I’ve only been to the ’ship once… go figure.
by Ihavenofriendzz on Jul 26, 2010 5:16 AM PDT up reply actions
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