Odds Makers: Predicting the future for Kellen Moore, Bronco home games, and all-WAC honors
Got an opinion to share about the upcoming Bronco football season? Then Odds Makers is for you.
Join me as I run down a list of potential scenarios and the likelihood I see of each coming true, and jump in with your perspective in the comments. Is Kellen Moore greater than Case Keenum? Will BSU get a first-team All-WAC linebacker? Is anyone going to show up at the Toledo game? Let's discuss.
Odds Makers is a segment I stole from Pardon the Interruption.
Let me know how wrong I am in the comments.
Odds Maker No. 1: Chances that Case Keenum is Graham Watson's top non-BCS player
Watson's quixotic attempt at ranking the Top 25 players among all non-BCS teams comes to a merciful end today when she announces her No. 2 player, thereby announcing her No. 1 player in the process, sort of like how Miss America works. The decision is obviously between Keenum and Kellen Moore. So you can stop holding your breath, Deonte Jackson.
Brian Murphy blogged about this topic yesterday, and he believes Watson will go with Keenum as her No. 1 (he also gave a shout out to OBNUG, which reminds me, I owe him money). Let's put aside what the right answer is for a minute and try to crawl inside Watson's brain. It doesn't matter whether Moore or Keenum is the better player. It matters only how Graham Watson thinks of them.
My gut instinct: Watson loves Moore to a greater degree than she loves Keenum. Her Boise State hate has waned in the past year, and she even did the unthinkable in ranking quasi-boyfriend Colin Kaepernick behind an academically-ineligible player from Kaep's own backfield. I believe in you, Graham Watson. Whether that's a good thing remains to be seen.
Chances: 30 percent
Odds Maker No. 2: Chances that Boise State gets its first All-WAC first team linebacker since 2006.
Last year's first team All-WAC linebacker group looked like this:
- Ben Jacobs, Fresno State
- Blaze Soares, Hawaii (graduated)
- Adrien Cole, Louisiana Tech
- Bobby Wagner, Utah State
Jacobs is back for his senior season, and Cole and Wagner are just going into their junior years. Theoretically, if those players stay in form, they should repeat as first-teamers. Realistically, all they need to do is not break a leg and the WAC coaches will probably keep them on the team because who has time to fill out those award ballots besides interns. Copy and paste and check for attrition, that's how it's done.
Which player has the best potential for first team honors on Boise State? Some might say Aaron Tevis because he is Colt Brooks 2.0. Others might go with Derrell Acrey because they are totally drinking the D.A. Kool-Aid that this will be his year. I'm going to think outside the box and go with Winston Venable who made last year's second team as a linebacker.
Still, Tevis, Acrey, and Venable will have to contend with a whole lot of other WAC players - like Idaho's JoJo Dickson and Nevada's James-Michael Johnson - for what could end up being one spot. And when you consider that BSU will likely have first team defense candidates at every single other position, linebacker might have to wait another year.
Chances: 10 percent
Odds Maker No. 3: Chances that Boise State sells out all of its home games this season
Well, UC Davis isn't on the schedule this year, so that helps. Also, San Jose State and New Mexico State are on the road, so yay for not having to see those teams in person.
However, Boise State was unable last year to sell out for teams that mattered, so I have a very hard time believing that this year things will change. Once the MWC move happens, you can start predicting sellouts left and right. Until then, I'm saying that home games against Toledo, Louisiana Tech, and Utah State will have empty seats.
Chances: 0 percent
Odds Maker No. 4: Chances that the Boise State - Idaho rivalry lives on
The funny thing is that once it was announced that the Bronco-Vandal game wouldn't happen in 2011 and possibly beyond, the people most up in arms about it were Vandals. And they're the ones on the wrong end of a double-digit losing streak.
If Vandal administrators and fans wanted to be done with this rivalry, then that would be another story. But the dogs in this race want to keep racing, and I see no way where Boise State doesn't make it work. It could be that the Vandals are desperate enough to schedule an away game in Boise every other year. It could be that legislators and fan pressure force the rivalry to continue its home-and-away series.
But rest assured, it will continue in some form. Free wins? Can't beat that.
Chances: 100 percent
Odds Maker No. 5: Chances that Kellen Moore is a three-time conference player of the year by the time he ends his career
So far, Moore is a one-time WAC player of the year, and if he has a season anywhere near Moore standards, he will likely repeat. Can he pull the trifecta in 2011?
He'll have to do so in the Mountain West, which will have a little stiffer competition. Still, if he is the non-BCS Heisman fave in his junior year, how much more will he be esteemed for his senior season? He will likely face competition from some young BYU quarterback and some athletic TCU offensive star. But you have to like the chances of a QB that people are already calling college football's best.
Chances: 80 percent
Odds Maker No. 6: Chances that Bryan Harsin scores a head coaching gig after this season
Harsin is undoubtedly one of the best young coordinators in the game, and the college football coaching machine has an unhealthy infatuation with young coordinators. Will this be the year he leaves?
There will undoubtedly be plenty of suitors this offseason (including some possible WAC teams like Hawaii). Will any of them be good enough for Harsin? If the Broncos have another stellar season, I am almost 100 percent confident that Harsin will move on to greener pastures. But I don't see that being a head coaching spot just yet. Like Wilcox, I believe Harsin would be better off advancing to a BCS team as their OC and then transitioning to head coach from there.
Unless he wants to be coaching the Colorado States of the world in 2011, Harsin's head coaching opportunity will likely wait. And who wants to coach the Colorado States of the world? (I mean, besides Brent Guy.)
Chances: 20 percent
Odds Maker No. 7: Chances that a Boise State game comes down to a field goal this season and that I develop an insta-ulcer thinking about Kyle Brotzman kicking it
Boise State will play a lot of blowouts, but it seems that there are always a couple of games that are too close for comfort. The VT game will undoubtedly be close, and I venture to guess that one of the WAC games will be, too. The only saving grace might be that the game-deciding kick comes off the foot of the other team's kicker. Still, I had better call ahead to St. Luke's just to be safe.
Chances: 70 percent
Your turn
Let's hear your odds on the above scenarios happening. Think Kellen Moore is deserving of Watson's top honor? Guarded about the chances of Bronco Stadium sellouts this fall? Think I'm a moron for picking the percentages I did? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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She released them-
Case Keenum at #2. Way to go Watson. Made the right choice for once.
I'll give you some personal odds for this season
Odds that I will love my new season ticket location (35 yard line, upper deck, row M) more than my old location (3 yards deep in the endzone, upper deck, row z)
Chances: 100%
Odds that I will be able to enjoy Labor Day weekend prior to 6pm Monday:
Chances: 20% (I will be waaay to nervous to fully relax)
Odds that my Vandal alum/fan wife who is pregnant with twins will make it to every home game with me this year?
Chances: 5%
(side note, those twins are the reason I’m not going to Va Tech… gotta save those nickels)
Odds that I will be bummed that I’m NOT going to have to go up to Moscow this year (due to said pregnancy of said twins)
Chances: 5%
Odds that I will be bummed that I’m not going on our last trip to Nevada
Chances: 37% (that drive is boring)
Odds that I will miss beating up some of these WAC teams
Chances: 58%
Odds that my streak of home games attended could end at the 12/4 Utah State game due to early arrival of twins (due date of 12/21)
Chances: 13% (really praying for this one not to happen)
Let’s get this season here already.
Go Broncos!
I have attended every home Boise State football game since 1992.
by JasonHaberman on Jul 2, 2010 9:10 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Congrats JHab
I didn’t hear that news. xoxo
OBNUG Resident Mom and Bronco Nation Podcast Field Reporter.
Thanks!
Gonna be an adventure, to be sure.
I have attended every home Boise State football game since 1992.
by JasonHaberman on Jul 2, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
TWINS!
Kellen & Kirby Haberman!
…better than Loque and The Intern, right?
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Congratulations!
Wow. Twins. I don’t know if that’s scary or exciting. Probably both!
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
I'm sort of partial
to Loque and the Intern.
OBNUG Resident Mom and Bronco Nation Podcast Field Reporter.
that's cool on the twins
Mrs. Grindhouse is pregnant. we’re just hoping beyond hope it’s not twins. her due date is undetermined, but we’re estimating January/February. hopefully it’s LATE january…
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
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by Grindhouse on Jul 2, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Blessings on you, your wife and especially "December's Children" (ref The Rolling Stones 1964)
which starts off with the raucous “She Said Yeah” (obviously)
Dum diddle dee dum dum
Little girl where did you come from?
tvmunson
turned your comment green.
Lots of winter birthdays around here.
My Boys;
Dec. 22nd
Dec. 28th
Jan. 3rd
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
We only have one winter birthday
And saying winter is a bit of a stretch.
My boys:
Nov. 17th
April 23rd
Sep. 27
April 22nd
My third son was born September 27th 2006. As his due date neared my wife and I had the option of getting her induced. We chose to get her induced and then had to choose a date. Both of us knew Boise State was playing Utah that Saturday (Sep. 30th) and we figured Wednesday, September 27th would give her ample time to have the baby, get checked out of the hospital, and settled in at home. Fortunately it worked out. I can’t wait till my son is old enough to tell him his birth literally revolved around a football game.
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
he'll feel special.
if only my would tolerate that. there is no way she would.
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
Follow me for BSU football game chants @BSUChants.
I have a December 23rd boy
That’s cool that you have a Christmas Eve baby. :)
OBNUG Resident Mom and Bronco Nation Podcast Field Reporter.
my boy is jan 8.
a few days after we could claim him on taxes. which, i think, is going to happen to the next one too.
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
Follow me for BSU football game chants @BSUChants.
Odds of Watching games in Person
2010 Season – watching games in person – 0%
watching games on ESPN – 80%
2011 Season – watching games in person – 10% – Would like to go up to Dallas & watch the BSU / TCU game.
watching games on ESPN – 10% – arrrggg MWC and Versus. At least I have DirecTv, just have to sign up for Versus / MTN
I LOVE THIS SEGMENT.
So much so that the title deserved all caps. I hope you return to it often this year, Kevan.
But also, I had a small desire to kill you that you when you mentioned Harsin’s chances of moving on… even when the job offers in early Winter come along, I want to ignore that there’s ever even a possibility.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Harsin leaving
That’s high on the pucker factor, for sure.
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
Hey!
The Colorado States of the world are going to be much better than people think. And Sonny Lubick turned down quite a few “better” jobs while he was in Fort Collins.
I'm cool with that...
…if you prove it vs. Hawkins’s Colorado and Kaepi’s Wolfpack first.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
I'm not sure
that beating CU proves that much….. I think a decent high school team could give them a run at this point.
Right!
But if you can’t win them… eesh.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
If nothing else...
Please beat those crappy Vandals.
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
Lay off those Rams!
They may be the next best hope for a regional rival after Utah.
When I was there we had the longest losing streak in the country—a long time ago.
nothingveryclever
by nothingveryclever on Jul 2, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
They may be the next best hope for a regional rival after Utah.
That would be BYU. Lots of mormons in the Treasure Valley/Southern Idaho will make that possible.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
Harsin leaving.
100% PLEASE DO NOT GO.
Hometown guys should stay w/ the team they help build/play for. You make bank already, and have all the love.
Don’t blow it.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
Your right.
I alway seem to have to (go there). I need professional help.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
I could be your psychologist
but mind you I’m no licensed professional, only a good listener. Then again thats all your paying them to do is write stuff down and listen sooooooooo…….
Shake It Kid
Spot on with Brotzman
Too bad VT is the first game, I really want to know if he is game ready. I always put him on my fantasy team for Bronco support, but he has failed the Blue Bombers, and the Broncos.
R.I.P. John Wooden, Wizard of Westwood
I'd
bet Harsin leaves soon. And you really can’t hate him for it, just as you shouldn’t hate Wilcox: almost none of these guys are in it to be lifelong assistant coaches, and for better or worse, that means leaving BSU for greener pastures, whether that means a HC job (probably not, unless a relatively good one opens up) or for an OC job at a BCS program that is a better stepping stone.
The last thing I have to say about Harsin is this:
REMEMBER FORMER COACH HAWK.
The grass isn’t always greener……….
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jul 4, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions

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