Mountain West opts not to invite Boise State (UPDATED)
Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson put the kibosh on conference expansion, announcing that the Mountain West presidents "opted not to expand" at this time. Wither Boise State? Maybe.
Though Thompson left conference expansion possibilities open-ended, the news of Boise State's lack of invite is a rather sudden, sobering conclusion to a months-long courtship. Where do the Broncos go from here? Will there ever be a chance of expansion? Leave your thoughts in the comments, and refresh this story for updated information on the situation.
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Change is in the air, and Mountain West presidents do not like that one bit
The overarching factor in the MWC sitting tight and sitting on its hands was that conference upheaval is afoot across the country and the MWC would much prefer to wait for the dust to settle. Little do they know what is usually left after the dust settles: Iowa State.

Thompson and the Mountain West are playing with fire by choosing to play the waiting game. Among the list of no good, horrible, very bad things that could happen to the Mountain West are these:
- The Pac-10 becomes an uberconference, starting a domino effect of uberconferences, and the Mountain West gets left holding the bag as "the best of the rest."
- The Big XII gets raided and ends up staving off extinction by poaching Mountain West teams or teams the Mountain West wanted.
- Nothing happens at all in big-time expansion news and the Mountain West fails in its bid to become an automatic-qualifying conference because they cannot prove that they have done everything they could to raise the conference's profile.
Mountain West presidents claimed that they are happy with the strength of the Mountain West, that there was no need to make a decision today, and that sure they're still interested in Boise State but don't rush them these things take time.
Is waiting the right move? I don't think so. The Mountain West took the easy way out, and despite my being a generally good person most of the time, I hope they pay dearly for it.
Boise State has become the Mountain West's safety school, just as the WAC has become Boise State's safety conference
It's not so fun when the Broncos are on the wrong end of being wanted.
After today's non-invite from the Mountain West, I now know how the WAC feels. Boise State played the courtship game with bigger and better conferences for pretty much all of 2010, all the while knowing that the WAC would be waiting with open arms to welcome them back if things didn't turn out. Of course the WAC would. The WAC is Sun Belt West without the Broncos.
And now the same thing is happening to Boise State. The Mountain West has nothing against expanding to nine teams, but with the possibility of bigger and better schools falling like table scraps from BCS conference realignment, the MWC is content to sit back and see what comes their way. If nothing good happens, then they can just give Boise State a ring, and the Broncos will come running at a moment's notice.
It is no fun being the safety choice. I know because that's what I was for pretty much every Sadie Hawkins dance during high school.
The "door is not closed" but only because the MWC intern is still closing all the windows
The possibility for expansion is still very much out there for the Mountain West. According to Craig Thompson:
- "The topic of expansion is still very much alive."
- "The door is not closed."
- No decision to expand "at this time."
If the conference does decide to expand and if it decides to do so with Boise State, Thompson would be sure to get the invitation sent by July 1 - Boise State's decision deadline. In other words, enjoy three-and-a-half more weeks of speculation.
Craig Thompson breaks up with Bob Kustra over the phone
The MWC commish gave the Boise State president a ring, just to say what's up and oh yeah we're not inviting you to our conference because hold on I'm driving through a tunnel and ... /making static noise /hanging up
At least he didn't break up with him through a text message.
Where was this hesitancy when they started The .Mtn television network?
The Mountain West has gained a reputation over the years of being a maverick conference that is not afraid to take chances and be the first to try something new. They split off from the WAC to make their own way. They were the first to start their own conference-specific television network. They are known as risk-takers. So what gives?
Much of the discussion prior to the MWC meetings was based on the conference's reputation of forward-thinking and taking the offensive approach with the future. Can they really feel that secure that conference expansion is going to shake out in a way that will not leave them in the dust? Why become gun shy all of a sudden?
There's always the WAC ... yay?
Let the spin cycle begin on Boise State saving face with a conference it sort of tolerates. From Coach Pete:
The WAC has, and will continue to be, a very strong platform to advance Bronco football.
No word on whether or not Coach Pete said that with a straight face.
Fan angst level set to orange
I am mad. I didn't really expect to be, but for whatever reason, I want the Mountain West to get ground into dust. I want the Broncos to destroy Wyoming this season and Utah and BYU next and TCU in the Fiesta Bowl that we all know is going to happen yet again in 2011. I want Karl Benson to announce in his WAC teleconference this afternoon that the WAC has plans to poach all the good teams from the Mountain West and form exactly the type of superconference that the MWC was afraid to do. I want the Mountain West to be extinct right now.
And so I will count to ten and hope I feel a little better and the color leaves my face. But so help me if someone shows me a picture of Craig Thompson between now and then.
Your turn
What do you think about how the Mountain West announcement came down? Frustrated? Angry? Hopeful? Disappointed? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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Screw the Mountain West...
I am so done with them. I always hope we would get the invitation, but they kept stringing us along. Then all these knew rumors came up and I got excited again. Now this. SCREW THE MOUNTAIN WEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree. They have no love for us.
My take is that the MWC is waiting for the PAC-10 and the Big-11 to swallow up the Big-12 to the point of near extinction. Then the MWC can gulp up the remaining few, say Kansas, Kansas State, and Colorado, and have their 12 team league; leaving BSU out in the cold. If those three teams were left without their Big-12 conference the BCS would almost certainly give any conference they went to, at least, temporary AQ status. They can’t ignore teams that already had AQ status just because their conference was decimated. This would give the MWC their 12 team BCS conference, and leave Boise State out of all these so called “Super Conferences,” totally screwing them.
by BleedBlueForever on Jun 7, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
My thoughts
If no other conference expands, neither does the MWC.
If I am wrong, then see what happened the last time they expanded.
BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.
The Mountain West is full of a bunch of........
chicken(bw)!!!!! I think I finally have it figured out — just wait until the Big XII implodes, steal their weakest teams (talking football only), then the MWC will become a pseudo-BCS conference. Nevermind that the addition of Kansas State, Kansas, Iowa State, Baylor, or Colorado will actually decrease the competition in the Mountain West. In fact, adding any of these teams is way better than adding the 2010-11 National Champion.
COWARDS
are they going to wait until their top teams get pilfered by other conferences before extending the invitation, leaving us no better off than being in the WAC, but with a crappy TV deal, **uck the mwc
Except...
if the top teams really do get pillaged, Boise State will probably not only say “no”, but “HELL NO!!!”. The MWC just lost their opportunity.
by LoneSausages on Jun 7, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
My thoughts
Today MWC dropped the ball. They could have easily improved their conference (football minimum) with an invite to Boise State. Now they are going to be playing catch up and hope to high heavans that UTAH/BYU/TCU does not get poached.
By adding/inviting Boise today they could have made a very formidable top heavy conference that could compete with ACC/Big East for BCS considerations. And after the Dominos fall they could have picked from the left overs, sent invites to others like Houston/Fresno St to get to 12 or whatever. Today would have been a small pixel in the big picture but they failed to seize the moment. Now they run the same risk that BIIX, Big East, ACC runs and that is being poached. Way to go MWC! Way to actually make waves in what your end goal should be…
It was all just a dream...
Also
If we do not get an invite before July1st, watch what happens to the opponents we face… I think that we could see a serious serious beat down and humilition of not only VA Tech, Oregon State, but also the whoever we face in our Championship game that could have been credited to MWC. Smooth.
It was all just a dream...
If Boise State is only ever good a replacement school...
I would rather stay in the WAC, where all the teams respect us.
Didn't think of it that way, interesting.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
Fun? That's the one You wanna go with?
Respect your opinion, but this is a bunch of BAD WORDS. Fat cats getting fatter, I don’t see the fun, maybe I need some rose colored glasses. I personally can’t wait til the time on this garbage runs out. Spay, I know I’m not the only OBNUGer to be sick of their leash being yanked.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jun 7, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think he meant to post as a reply to my post below :-)
See “Get Ready for the Dominos to Crash – in a Big Way”
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
With you blue. I feel like we bent over and got (bw) by the dirtiest (bw) since Bobby got it in "Deliverance".
sooohheeeee- I guess that would be more appropos for the SEC (Georgia). Come to think of it there is a connection (no pun intended).
tvmunson
by tmunson on Jun 7, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
BAD WORDS
I thought the whole idea behind the MWC expanding would be to make the conference a BCS conference? If the PAC 10 takes the Texas and Oklahoma schools, how does Colorado, Kansas, Kansas St., or Iowa St. help the MWC reach this goal? Ok, I understand Kansas for the sake of basketball, and maybe once a decade they’ll help with football standings.
I’m still not totally sold one way or the other. It would have been really nice to have all this stupid speculation over. Bad words….
"All we can do is win the games on our schedule" - Coach Pete
by givemesomemoore on Jun 7, 2010 11:34 AM PDT reply actions
From Brian Murphy tweet:
Without BSU. RT @slmandel: The BCS AQ formula says MWC has to finish in “top six” of 3 criteria. If Big 12 dissolves — problem solved.
It’s true. I hate the Mountain West.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
YAY!!!!!!!
I just realized, we probably will be able to win 15 more WAC titles!!!!!!!
by BSU Guru on Jun 7, 2010 11:39 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks Guru
I needed some levity. Rec’d. Now lets focus on the upcoming season. I’m tired of being a plaything for the conferences and media BW’s. Let’s go kick some turkey tails, and win another 13 games!
by broncoitis on Jun 7, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It simple.
The MWC meets two of he three criteria required for auotmatic BCS inclusion. The third, Conferece strength top to bottom, is where they lag. Even adding Boise State doesn’t bring them up enough to meet the criteria. Adding Iowa State or Kansas State, no matter how crappy they might be, raises it significantly because of the overall strength of the BIGXII, i.e. Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Mizzou et al.
They’re waiting to snag one or more of those teams simply on the basis of gaining BCS AQ Status.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
Note to Boise State Players:
Attach MWC Presser to bulletin board, use it as motivation to destroy every opponent this season.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
by Mikrino on Jun 7, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Countdown...
I think the real question here is… Is Drew going to keep the roster countdown going today? With all this Mountain West talk going on, I could use a good fun post about one of our guys! I believe we’re to #91, big Greg Grimes!
!
Thanks Drew… No rush, just always look forward to your fun posts.
dang
i wish we played byu and utah this year, im completely done being enticed by the possibility of moving to the mwc
I gave up a life of crime, I gave it to a friend of mine
This might be good for the chip on their shoulder...
But it definitely isn’t good for the Athletic Department’s budget.
Speaking of which ...
… I sure would have appreciated a call from Craig Thompson today.
"Lunch has been canceled today due to lack of hustle." - Tony Perkis
by Kevan Lee on Jun 7, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Can we agree never to say "super conference" again
it has gone the way of WMD’s, war on terror and BCS buster.
Beemer Nebraska: The cultural epicenter of the universe.
The Power Diss!
Made me smile…
http://twitter.com/Hlas
by BleedBlueForever on Jun 7, 2010 12:41 PM PDT reply actions
Greener pastures await
Maybe Bob Kustra should get on the phone and get this going:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/402567-time-for-the-big-12-to-be-proactive
Boise State
I live in Provo, UT, and am a huge Boise State fan. I have a 6×3 Boise State flag that will be flown all around the town, showing these idiot MWC teams that we do not need them to go further. We don’t need them. We’ll keep treading in the waters of mediocrity, beating huge schools on neutral fields, recruiting ** players from towns like Coeur D’ Alene, ID, Piscataway, New Jersey, Amsterdam, Netherlands and the blessed Prosser, Washington. I hope the MWC burns in their Mormon-led division. Keep safe idiots. Boise State will Dominate!
There's already been an outcry because of the mwc today
If the mwc extends an invitation to BSU before the end of the month are we all pissed at the mwc still?
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
by JRig on Jun 7, 2010 1:01 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
as a utah fan i know want out of the mwc. if we can get to the reconfigured big 12 or if....
the pac-ten expands and maybe asks us i want to go right now. thompson is a douche and that guy wants to wait till the dust settles and then get all the kibbles and bits? i don’t won’t to be with this guy anymore.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 7, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
You speak the truth.
I laughed, because it’s true. I just don’t get if they want to wait and see what happens, and possibly take more teams to become a larger conference, why they could not invite Boise State now? They could always extend more invitations later. I think it’s because if they expand, they want to do it all at once.
by BleedBlueForever on Jun 7, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Good question ...
… and yes. I will hate the MWC for eternity and root for Boise State to go buzzsaw on them from Day One of conference affiliation.
"Lunch has been canceled today due to lack of hustle." - Tony Perkis
by Kevan Lee on Jun 7, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I hope only bad things for the MWC at this point..
I’m with you Kevan!
I hope the MWC loses all 3 of their big teams, and the WAC picks up your best leftovers after you have to kiss Karl Benson’s butt. I hope the Broncos lay 50 on Wyoming this year, I hope the Broncos go undefeated, that all SEC schools have 2 losses, that only 1 BCS AQ team goes undefeated, and the dream season happens and the Broncos play for all the marbles.
In the meantime, BYU has 4 losses and another embarrassment to FSU, TCU loses at least twice, and is ranked 20th, Utah has 3 or 4 losses and the MWC’s shot at AQ status becomes a distant memory.
Sorry, but we are tired of waiting around and being the safety date.
I hope only bad things for the MWC. You know the country song about the guy who "prays for" his ex? That’s us at this point, nothing but flower pots falling on your head, MWC.
Just a stepping stone.
That’s the way I see the Mountain West Conference. The MWC will give Bronco Athletics the boost it needs while the academics catches up. Hopefully, in 10-15 years, we’ll see the type of advanced thinking Coach Pete has brought to Boise State in it’s educators, and a move to the PAC-22 will be in store for us.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
10 - 15 years from now
It’ll be the Pac-64 against the SEC-56
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
by marktgarten on Jun 7, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
10-15 years from now I'll be plant food for the lillies of the field
or charcoal gravel for the Pacific fishies.
tvmunson
MWC Killer
The PAC 10 has had its problems with getting beat by MWC teams. What they need is a team that has a proven track record of beating MWC teams…. Ta Da! Welcome Boise State! I know that there is about an ice cubes chance in hell for an invite from the PAC 10 but they could add us just to take down those pesky MWC teams that have been giving them trouble. Like hiring a hit man or something. Problem solved. Plus we would get the likes of USC, Cal, Washington, Arizona etc. coming to town every other year. I really think that the MWC blew it so I hope there are other opportunities out there for BSU. I would love to see us win the NC and then next year when they come knocking tell them to take a flying leap. I guess one can only hope.
You know what the Mountain West wants to do...
Wait until the Big 12 implodes, taking Colorado, Kansas, and Kansas State to get there ideal conference of 12. Of course they leave Boise State out in the cold, allegedly because their academics didn’t fit the Mountain West’s “culture.”
Because our academics are so far out of line with Wyoming, New Mexico, UNLV, CSU, and SDSU...
Let the Media's excuse begin...again: "It was Boise State's first game of the year!" whilst completely ignoring that it was VaTech's first game, as well.
Actually, they are.
Boise State isn’t even considered a “National” University according to the US New & World Report’s 2010 College Rankings.
It’s a Master’s University, and ranked 56th at that. Behind schools like Gonzaga, California Baptist, and Abilene Christian. Although BYU is essentially the only ranked MWC school a 71st among National Universities, CSU, SDSU, Wyoming, and the like are all considered “National” as well.
Their football program may be a Division I National Power, but it’s safe to say that their academics have not kept up the same pace.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
In all fairness though,
Not everybody agrees with US News & World Report’s rankings system;
Kevin Carey of Education Sector, have argued that such rankings as the U.S. News and World Report’s college rankings system is merely a list of criteria that mirrors the superficial characteristics of elite colleges and universities. According to Carey, “[The] U.S. News ranking system is deeply flawed. Instead of focusing on the fundamental issues of how well colleges and universities educate their students and how well they prepare them to be successful after college, the magazine’s rankings are almost entirely a function of three factors: fame, wealth, and exclusivity.” He suggests that there are more important characteristics parents and students should research to select colleges, such as how well students are learning and how likely students are to earn a degree.2
- from Wikipedia
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
by Mikrino on Jun 7, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice find! I like your definition much better
It’s all about preparing young men and woman to be productive citizens with good values and open minds.
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention...
…for instance, Wyoming (a "national university…at tier 1) has no ranking…where Boise State…also a tier 1 school…but only at masters…has a national ranking/score. Just because our PHD type degrees are very new and relatively few, don’t discount us too much…hence why we are ranked #3 on the top up and coming Universities (a list that USC was once on).
Everyone hates us because we’re new…not one of the “blue bloods”…they started at the bottom at one time, too…everyone did. Most just don’t like the thought of another Miami stealing their thunder (and neither does Miami, by the way).
Let the Media's excuse begin...again: "It was Boise State's first game of the year!" whilst completely ignoring that it was VaTech's first game, as well.
Agreed on all counts.
I just telling how they base their excuses. It’s still an excuse, and you know what they say about those…
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
yeah, excuses are a lot like @ssholes...everybody has one, but nobody wants to admit it.
courtesy Cleon Salmon from The Slammin’ Salmon (great movie by the way)
Let the Media's excuse begin...again: "It was Boise State's first game of the year!" whilst completely ignoring that it was VaTech's first game, as well.
by TheShrewdOne on Jun 7, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
I still need to see that one! I always meant to….
Their football program may be a Division I National Power, but it’s safe to say that their academics have not kept up the same pace.
Meaning Boise State. I just hate the collective “we” and “our”.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
I was dead wrong and I admit it. One of my sources will pay, very dearly and very literally.
tvmunson
No - I believe your source was correct
(I got your back Munson.)
I think the PAC 10 commish’s relatively unexpected announcement that he was given carte-blanche to expand, along with the credible stories about the PAC 10 raiding the Big 12 threw a wrench in the MWC’s plans.
I truly believe the MWC had the necessary 7 votes for BSU last week.
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Please-Only you're compassionate remarks will stay my billing hand-and trust me the attorneys out there
know how rare that is. Knuckle punch from your brother in OBNUG!
tvmunson
Back atcha!
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I had a good thought!
At least I won’t have to subscribe to the MTN, “at this time.”
by BleedBlueForever on Jun 7, 2010 1:29 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Amen, brother.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
by Mikrino on Jun 7, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. Maybe the lability in the other conference situations impacted; this could all look very different once Big 12 et al
shake out. Or am I smokin’ the hookah?
tvmunson
What do you think Boise State will say if they 'change' their minds?
Personally, Munson I hope Bob slams the door on them.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jun 7, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No no... they're just putting off a decision
It makes sense for them to wait til Friday when Nebraska and Missouri must give the Big 12 an answer. That will – or will not – start the dominos from falling.
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Get ready for the Dominos to Crash - in a Big Way
Friday will light the fuse.
By the end of next week, there will be a:
- PAC 16
- Big 16 (formerly Big 10)
It’s gonna be fun!
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That was before the PAC 10 Commish stated his intentions to expand
That was a massive announcement. It actually dramatically speeds up the timeline.
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I not going to believe it till I see it...
There has been all this talk and rumors about expansion the last couple of months and so far NOTHING has happened.
True, but the PAC 10 is dead serious about developing an International Marketing Plan with an International TV contract
The PAC 10’s marketing plan is targeting Asia… and to sweeten the pot, the PAC 10 wants Texas.
I say, what the PAC 10 wants (with this ingenious approach), the PAC 10 gets. And it gets it soon.
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been telling Boise to do that for years.
Well.. by “telling Boise” I mean: writing it in the comments on this blog and by “for years” I meant probably for a couple months.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
You make a lot of sense blue; lot of sense. I'm reeling from having so many sources let me down and I'm only in position
to truly repay one of them in kind. Please spay had me in a mood forebearance; yours make me realize that I must get vengeance, now. The rest fo the day I shall be the Scourge of god so help me. whne I hurt-so do many many others.
tvmunson
Excellent Analysis Kevan - The MWC blew it (but still has time to fix it)
Bad things can only happen if they wait… too long.
I still think they will act soon (within 10 days). However, if they aren’t ready to make offers to the Big 12 remaining teams after the PAC 16 forms, then the MWC is in serious trouble.
I don’t see the MWC expanding to just 12 teams, because I believe the 4 “Super-Sixteen” conferences will force all remaining conferences to go to 16 to have a chance to Dance.
I’m not worried about Boise landing in the MWC by the end of June.
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 1:42 PM PDT reply actions
this tweet from Brian murphy made me feel a little bit better
http://twitter.com/murphsturph/status/15656921773
i asked him the distance between SD and kansas said the same.
also:
bsu guys speaking up:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/1o1c5s
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
Stealing Bill Simmons' (@sportsguy33) Twitter idea. Follow me for BSU football game chants @BSUChants.
Thompson looks like a sphincter; I know that's immature, sophmoric, "sour grapes" (sort of), not condign, inapposite, and probably unfair.
I suppose that makes me a bad person for pointing that out.
tvmunson
So glad the Mountain West invited the Boise media...
Only to tell them: You wasted your money coming here. Were not going to invite Boise State. I guess Justin Corr will be happy. He sided against Boise State joining the Mountain West in all those fake arguments with Zach Wolken.
I'm going to turn to optimism.
The highlight of my day was watching Mark Johnson try to stall for 13 minutes until the presser started. I felt bad for all Idaho journalists in that room with him giving the sad eyes to other reporters saying, “Yes, that’s what we have to deal with.”
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
well crap
I now hope the MWC is obliterated… We don’t really need them. We’ve done just fine here in the WAC
I just threw up a lil'
Done! I’m damn done with the MWC. All they are doing is protecting their prodigy children Utah and TCU. Fine, Boise State should just keep on smashin’ mouths on The Blue and let the MWC (which obviously has failed to do EVERYTHING in it’s power to become an AQ) get punched in the face. I hope we annihilate every MWC team we play over the next few years. SUCK IT YOU ARROGANT TURD BAGS! Now it’s back to listening to everyone in the nation bitch about our schedule strength. I can’t believe it…more years of WAC football. It’s like watching the same game over and over and over and over and over…Boise State 2011 National Champs (soon enough). Not good enough for the MWC. Plow yourselves up the back side.
by ThePhlipinSituation on Jun 7, 2010 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
DC
As a Fan I was hopeful the MWC would add Boise today, but they didn’t in the end this might prove to be a huge mistake on their behalf, as I hope it will be .
That being said we can only deal with what we can control. As a fan living in Michigan that means I will support BSU football by going to DC the first week in sept, and hopefully back to AZ in Jan like I did this year.
As for the players sure you can use this but you already know now the spotlight is on you control what you can control that which is in front of you let others worry about the rest.. Lets take the shot we have no at history!
Sweet! Our men in Blue will need all the support they can get in DC
I’ll see you there!!!
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Also you know BYU
BYU hates Boise State , people in General hate Boise period. You know the last thing they wanted was to get beat year in year out by BSU!
True that
but, we’ll be in the MWC by the end of June.
I’m not worried about it.
Plus, the “snub” will give our Broncos even more motivation! We thrive on disrespect!!!!
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
"We thrive on disrespect!!!"- with Bronco logo-I think it's a T-shirt at least!
tvmunson
by tmunson on Jun 7, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your Disrespect-Our Motivation; love it Please love it!
tvmunson
by tmunson on Jun 7, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
Stealing Bill Simmons' (@sportsguy33) Twitter idea. Follow me for BSU football game chants @BSUChants.
by Grindhouse on Jun 7, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
BYU????
I wouldn’t bag on BYU, of all the teams out there, BYU is the only school which has scheduled BSU for the next 4 consecutive years. Seems that they were trying to assimilate the Bronco’s into the conference more than anyone.
I would think that BYU would understand where Boise St is coming from.
In the 80’s to early 90’s, BYU was the Boise St. of that decade. Big success against weakly WAC, showing up at big games (and sometimes not) and even some huge wins in big bowl games, including a national championship.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
I've got a bad feeling
The Pac-10 gets bigger (without BSU), the MWC gets bigger (without BSU), and the Big-12 disappears, leaving the Broncos in WAC no man’s land with nowhere to go. Can we go back to the Big Sky and just win the national championship every year?
that does sound kind of fun.
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
Stealing Bill Simmons' (@sportsguy33) Twitter idea. Follow me for BSU football game chants @BSUChants.
A Downer For Recruiting
One of the more annoying side stories with the delay or rejection by the MWC is the effect this might place on recruiting. BSU competes directly with MWC teams for recruits and has made scholarship offers to many of the same prospects (CSU, SDSU and Utah 4, TCU and Wyo 3, BYU 2 and AA & UNLV 1 of BSU‘s top 25 offers).
Boise State has not found it difficult to outbid the MWC bottom feeders, but the big three are another story. Coach Pete has vastly upgraded the average star value of his target market of prospects this year and I suspect that the expectations on the part of at least some of these players is for an upgrade in the conference.
Nice data
Hopefully we’ll be part of the MWC by the end of June, and it will have no impact on recruiting.
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Any "news" from Karl Benson?
Don’t know where I’d hear about what his press conference is about.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Very anti-climatic
Since BSU didn’t leave the WAC, they didn’t acknowledge they were going to do anything.
BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.
Looking at this conference BS from another angle...
You’re at a bar, you see an attractive girl, and you start flirting. Meanwhile, you hear your friends talking about all the girls they’re taking home. Well if one takes one and one takes another you might have a shot with the big breasted/lipped hotty in the corner. You move on…end up getting rejected by the lucious bimbo, the other girl you were talking to went home and you end up in bed with some random skank and a bad case of the crotch crabs the next day. You can probably figure out who represents who in this scenario. Here’s hoping the MWC ends up burned with more than crotch crabs (herpes perhaps) and the girl who went home ends up winning a national beauty pageant.
by ThePhlipinSituation on Jun 7, 2010 6:30 PM PDT reply actions
It's a big conspiracy!!
I think that in the end this is just a big joke against the MWC. Really, none of the AQ conferences want the MWC to join them at the BCS table. Therefore, the Pac-10 and the Big XII began all these conference expansion rumors to stall the MWC from inviting Boise State. They know that if BSU joins the MWC, then they could become a legitimate contender for AQ status. Hahaha.,.. the joke’s on you Craig!
This actually did cross my mind at one point today...
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
by MKingery on Jun 7, 2010 9:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Morons Without Cause!
I guess the MWC doesn’t need the $1 mil buy-in that BSU would pay to play. I hope the MWC gets shut out in the cold wouldn’t that be funny if they lost out of getting our Broncos and lose a couple of their teams.
Maybe BSU would give them the finger over the $1mil buy-in after today.
Maybe, but highly doubtful.
BSU would definitely not give them the finger…
BSU likes money just as much as the next school.
Old enough to know better, too young to care.
After spending most of my day dry heaving....

I’m going to do my best to stay optimistic for the rest of the month. If Boise gets the invite, great. If not, then BSU will continue to do what they do best, and that’s win no matter where they are. Whether Boise State gets an invitation this, this year, or in the next 10 years they will have deserved it.
Disclaimer: Due to my lack of patience I can only stay optimistic for so long. So the chips better start falling soon before I start buying cases of Maalox.
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
by JRig on Jun 7, 2010 9:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Munson'd
….this month, this year, or…..
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
by JRig on Jun 7, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not to worry
Boise will land in the MWC/Big 12 by the end of the month.
Guaranteed!
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 7, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
From your lips to God's ears- and may the distance be short. oops!
Should not invoke the major deity over something like football; best to save Him for war and surgery. From your lips to the karma gods!
tvmunson
That was funny
We’ll take the karma gods any day.
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 8, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
a munson by omission-still a munson; Plus received on all points!
We play in a subpar conference, kick (bw), and people will badmouth-but spell our name right.
tvmunson
An unsurprising decision, since the MWC knows that Boise isn’t going anywhere unless the MWC is already destroyed. Boise has no power in this situation because they’re not an academic or TV market fit for the Pac 10 or Big 10, they’re too far away from the Big East to be appealing, and if the Big 12 takes them it will only be after TCU/Utah/BYU have already gone there and the MWC is dead.
From a MWC perspective, it’s an understandable decision. Getting a chance at the dregs of the Big 12- Kansas, K-State and taking Houston from C-USA would lead to a pretty nice conference that easily ranks above the ACC and Big East. It absolutely sucks for Boise, but the MWC knows Boise will be there.
From a TCU fan perspective, which is my natural perspective, I’m pissed off that we don’t get a chance to pay you back for last season. Best case scenario, see you boys in the title game. Until then, good luck Broncs.
by HawkeyedFrog on Jun 8, 2010 3:29 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It really isn't even a case of being better than the ACC or Big East.
The MWC is already ahead of the Big East in two of the three required criteria. The third, which is overall conference strength/rank, has them at 7th by a wider margin, because the bottom of the MWC is horrible and that brings them down. Even with Boise State making the MWC top heavy, it doesn’t put them over the top.
Now if the BIGXII goes kaput, it no longer matters about beating the Big East or ACC. They’ll automatically be 6th if the BIGXII ceases to exist. They can go ahead and insure a BCS spot by picking up Kansas or K-State and use their strong BIGXII conference resume to put them over the top. But ultimately, they won’t need it.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
It doesn't matter anyway.
If the MWC gets an AQ bid, it will be for the 2 years this evaluation period covers. Then the BCS will make some standards about keeping AQ status that only the MWC is not meeting and it will be gone.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
The Big 12 will Never Dissolve!!
I can’t imagine a conference that already has loads of money and a BCS auto bid dissolving into thin air…meanwhile a mid-major conference like the MWC wielding the power to pouch teams from a BCS conference…Has Craig Thompson been drinking the MWC is so amazing Kool-Aid??
Even if some teams leave for the PAC – 10, the Big 12 will be able to buy-off the required six teams that is necessary to keep their conference status. I believe what is much more probable is that the Big 12 would keep six and pouch BYU, TCU, Utah, and Air Force from the MWC conference…and maybe even take BSU.
If the Pac-10 goes to 16 I don't see a way the Big XII keeps six teams....
I agree that the Big XII will not dissolve completely since the existing money and TV contracts would seem to be more lucrative. BCS status for 2011 may change based on the conference make-up and is far from guaranteed if the South Division bolts for the Pac-10.
If Texas and company leave, then I see Nebraska and Mizzou/Kansas leaving for the Big-10 rather than stay in the Big XII lite with BYU, TCU, Utah et al.
The only way the Big XII survives in that scenario is to invite six MWC schools (and other top non-AQ programs) to join Kansas, K-State, Iowa State and Colorado/Baylor.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
A conference must have 6 teams or it must "officially" dissolve (NCAA rules)
For the Big 12, that is a very possibility will happen next week.
By the end of June:
- The PAC 16 will exist
- The Big 16 will exist
- The Big 12 will cease to exist
- The MWC 16 will exist
- Boise State will be part of the MWC 16
It will take until Sep 1 for the ACC 16 and SEC 16 to form.
I haven’t been this glued to the news since 9/11.
Luckily, this is a much happier thing to watch!
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 8, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Or maybe the reaction fizzles shortly after the PAC 16 forms?
Perhaps the Big 10 only adds Nebraska, getting to 12 teams. Maybe they just get a conference championship going, make Nebraska feel like a welcome member, and scare the beejezus out of Notre Dame in the process. They’ll let the Pac 16 test the BCS 16 team superconference model first. The SEC and Big Integer will watch Texas and Hollywood compete for control of the west, while holding the option of future expansion as a river card.
Just remember... It's All About the Money
Whatever will make each conference the most money, they will do.
We’re talking HUGE money. Towards that end, two things will happen:
- Super Conferences with Huge TV contracts will form
- A college playoff is inevitable – because it would bring in about 4 times the amount of money that the current system brings in. It’s astounding a playoff has not happened yet.
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 9, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
All the Big 12 needs is 8
All they need to do, should they lose 8 teams, is poach 4 and bring their number back to eight. Let’s say Utah, BYU, TCU, and Boise State. Hell, maybe you throw in Houston too. I doubt the Big 12 loses it’s AQ status at that point, but the MWC sure as heck will be scrambling….deservedly so.
by ThePhlipinSituation on Jun 8, 2010 3:06 PM PDT reply actions
Automatic qualifier status in the BCS (and your NCAA tourney bid) is automatically forfeited if you don’t have at least 6 members who have been in that conference playing together for five years. A super Pac-10 and Mizzou or Nebraska will kill the Big 12 absolutely dead.
Thanks for the correction...
I thought the conference had to “dissolve”.
Sounds like they just lose their BCS AQ status.
"The question is not, 'Can they reason?' nor, 'Can they talk?' but rather, 'Can they suffer?'" - Jeremy Bentham
by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Jun 9, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions

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