Boise State to the Mountain West: Winners and losers and by losers I mean Vandals
by Kevan Lee on Jun 12, 2010 10:00 AM PDT
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PrintBoise State's move to the Mountain West yesterday will go down as one of the most important days in Bronco Nation history. New competition, more revenue, less San Jose State - the Broncos in the Mountain West just works on so many levels ... except on whatever level the University of Idaho is.
With the dust still settling and not set to be done settling until much later this summer/year/2011, here is a look at some early winners and losers of the defection heard 'round the WAC.
If you missed the big announcement yesterday, then how dare you for having other things going on in your life than Boise State football. The Mountain West move is recapped in exhaustive detail here. Be the 500th person to comment.
Winners, Winners, Chicken Dinners
Boise State President Bob Kustra
Kustra has spent the past seven years lobbying for the Broncos to get a place in the Mountain West Conference, and he deserved all the praise and congratulations he got on Friday for a job well done. Kustra was beaming during Boise State's press conference yesterday afternoon, and his breathless re-telling of the events of the invite endeared him to Bronco Nation in a way that administrators typically do not see.
Plus, he reads the blogs!
He went to his home office and perused the Internet. He read stories about college conference realignment.
Kustra has vaulted himself to icon status in Bronco Nation with his tireless efforts to both get the Broncos in the Mountain West and to stump for BCS bids in years past. Kustra deserves everything good that will come to him and Boise State University after this deal is done.
Fresno State head coach Pat HIll
As reader mikrino noted, with Boise State out of the way in the WAC, Fresno State might finally win a WAC championship. Sticking with Pat Hill was totally worth it!
radio personality Paul J. Schneider
The once and always voice of Bronco Nation, Schneider took much grief a year-and-a-half ago when he boldly predicted that the Broncos would join the Mountain West. Well, who's laughing now? (Note: Probably Bob Kustra because he's still really excited.)
SB Nation blog Mountain West Connection
OBNUG's SB Nation neighbor got some good pub from the national blogs as the one who called this whole thing months ago. Congrats to Jeremy and gang for reading the writing on the wall about the same time everyone else did but for having a blog and needing story ideas in late January.
Bronco Stadium
Now that, you know, actual teams will be on the Broncos' conference schedule, Boise State AD Gene Bleymaier expects to put more buns in more seats. So why not add more seats?
Bleymaier said this will provide an extra push to expand Bronco Stadium. The Broncos should draw much better against this schedule.
So long as a Dairy Queen booth is in the works, I'm on board.
Mountain West basketball teams
Free wins!
La-hoo-za-hers (Losers)
Mountain West football teams
More losses!
Tuesday night football games
The Mountain West views non-Saturday football games as a sin, so you'd better get your fill of Boise State - LaTech on a Tuesday night this year because that may be the last time your Boise State football ever touches your hump day.
The Idaho Vandals
How bad is this move for the Vandals? Let me count the ways.
- They see their in-state nemesis move on for bigger and better things, while they get left behind.
- There may be no Boise State - Idaho game in 2011.
- Coach Pete says stuff like this:
"The thing is in the new league you create new rivals, especially with the proximity of this new league. It will be interesting how many newrivalries are created," he said. And if the rivals do schedule future games, Petersen said, "it would be a much better game down here in Boise."
- Bob Kustra > Rob Spear
- Ha! The Vandals weren't invited.
For those of you who like your speculation with a side of perspective, here is some added detail to the rumor that the Boise State vs. Idaho rivalry will not happen in 2011. The main reason for this belief is that the Broncos' non-conference schedule is full if the MWC decides to go to a nine-game conference schedule. However, the nine-game sked is no way set in stone, and if the MWC expands to 12, that will make the nine-gamer moot altogether. In other words, hold tight until all the expansion stuff settles down.
The WAC
Replacing Boise State with UC Davis is not good business.
Your turn
Who are the winners and losers that you see from the Mountain West's move to grab Boise State? Are you as much in love with Bob Kustra as I am? Glad to see Idaho get the shaft? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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The biggest winner...
Is Bronco Nation! I love watching BSU football but when we go into games (idaho, san jose state, utah state, etc…..) not expecting to lose and win by 100 its fun but not quite as nerve racking or as exciting. I get that game in and game out teams strive to beat us, shoot that would make there whole season in 1 game. They just werent up to the competition. Imagine our last 2 post season bowl games played every year! Thats exciting! We as fans won! The loser no doubtly… The poor Western Athletic Conference! They just became really irrelavant. Such as the Sun Belt Conference. This was a great move for us fans! GO BRONCOS!!!
"dont talk about it, be about it"
and another reason for the wac...
You have to figure that a main selling point for recruiting a kid that has been offered by other non-bcs teams is the fact you will be on ESPN playing a top 25 team! Not saying they wont play on ESPN anymore but really, whats the point? Boise State was a main selling point to what “could” happen if you come play in the wac, not sure what they can say now to convience them not to go to another non-bcs team.
"dont talk about it, be about it"
Winner:
Southern California based Bronco fans! Every other year in Vegas and San Diego!
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
by marktgarten on Jun 12, 2010 12:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Minor Loser: Northern California based Bronco fans
No more quick trips to San Jose, Reno, and Fresno to watch Big Blue. Now I have to find something else to do with my vacation time.
I'm A Winner!!
I can’t wait to host a tailgate every other year.
My wife is a UNLV alumni so that should be fun too!
by MooreWalksOnWater on Jun 13, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm a winner too!
I’m makin’ the trip down to SDSU every chance I get!!
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Jun 13, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Another winner
College football.
College football fans almost everywhere would prefer to see Boise State annually meeting TCU, Utah and BYU than Fresno State, Nevada and Hawaii. I mean, the Boise State-TCU matchup is a BCS bowl worthy matchup, and now we get to see it every year!
Loser: Humanitarian Bowl
Even if they survive, WAC leftovers vs. 3rd Place MAC. C’mon… They better get affiliated with the MWC or they’ll get placed on the curb.
And that's another Bronco... FIRST DOWN!!
You'd have to think that the MWC will get another bowl affiliation.
Adding Boise almost guarantees that the MWC will have one more bowl-eligible team (and, by extension, the WAC will have one fewer). The Humanitarian is an obvious pickup, but given that Boise is not ‘just’ another bowl-eligible team at this point, the MWC might be able to gun for something much bigger.
Heck, the BCS autobid might take care of that problem by itself.
by David Hooper on Jun 12, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
The Fort Worth Bowl moved with TCU, I imagine your hometown bowl will move as well.
by HawkeyedFrog on Jun 12, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't have guessed:
Probably Bob Kustra because he’s still really excited
photo courtesy of the Idaho Statesman
The guy has gone MADD he’s so hysterical…I guess that’s why they say you shouldn’t get everything you want…but it almost brings a tear to my eye. Good job, and God Bless, President Kustra!
Let the Media's excuse begin...again: "It was Boise State's first game of the year!" whilst completely ignoring that it was VaTech's first game, as well.
Yes
Are you as much in love with Bob Kustra as I am?
I love Bob Kustra as much as a fat kid loves cake….or as much as I love cake.
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
Also, I think a Kudos is in order for Kustra
There ya go Mikrino!
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
by JRig on Jun 12, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for imitation
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
Losers:
Boise State if MWC schools are poached before we get to play them.
It was all just a dream...
True.
I think the Utah option is less than 50% as of this second, and the TCU option is far, far less than that. Most likely the gamble will pay off. But at the very worst, I can’t see how more than one MWC team gets poached off. Only the PAC can get Utah, and that’s only if A&M doesn’t go with Texas. Or, if the Texas contingent somehow went to the SEC rather than the PAC, I could see the PAC settling for 12 teams with Utah. I just can’t see them going to 16 if they don’t get the Texas group.
Another possibility would be for the SEC to grab TCU. Honestly, I rate that as a zero to none chance, but that’s the only other scenario I can cook up in my head where a MWC team leaves.
by David Hooper on Jun 12, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
More to the Idaho rivalry.
The main reason for this belief is that the Broncos’ non-conference schedule is full if the MWC decides to go to a nine-game conference schedule. [yadda, yadda.]
I mentioned this elsewhere, but it doesn’t matter what Boise’s non-conference schedule is for the next two years. Idaho’s schedule is full for both 2011 and 2012 (unless they don’t get a 9th conference team before next season). So, regardless of what Boise does, it’s Idaho who is keeping the “rivalry” (snicker, snicker) game from happening.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Knock Knock...
Can we come in? I think a lot of k-state fans are willing to join the party and maybe we can drag along mizzou and KU kicking and screaming if we can.
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
Yes, but Baylor isn't invited. You friends with Iowa State?
Sorry, if the MWC goes to 16 teams, I would rather have Fresno and Nevada than the Bears and Cyclones. The Wildcats, Jayhawks, and Tigers are certainly welcome.
Yeah lords humble warrior...
doesn’t have to crash and the cyclones…hmmpf we forget they’re there most of the time. I think the addition of strong basketball programs and a couple of bcs quality football teams(not ku, their orange bowl year don’t count) would benefit ya’ll greatly. I’m willing to come to terms with our fate, any team I should start a beef with? Wanna be prepared
And on the 3rd year he rose again...
I'm with Sacto
You guys are OK. The other two are probably coming, cause like, where else are they gonna go?
Baylor, uh, no.
Big winner in this? Boise State and TCU. Finally someone good to play the last week of the season, since BYU and Utah reserve each other for that happy day.
Finally the MWC title will be contested the last day of the season, either in the Holy War or the TCU/BSU game. All we need is an awesome name for the rivalry, and we’re set.
by HawkeyedFrog on Jun 12, 2010 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
i, too, like that idea
i would say, right now, the tcu/bsu rivalry is going to be bsu’s “first” rivalry in the mwc considering the recent history.
not to say that utah and byu won’t be great matchups (i’m so excited for those btw) but they have each other.
this can only be great news
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
Stealing Bill Simmons' (@sportsguy33) Twitter idea. Follow me for BSU football game chants @BSUChants.
Maybe we should have a thread with ideas for naming the game.
I like “The Brawl”
or maybe “The Riddler”
I am in favor of this idea. Every rivalry needs a kickass name so you know with just the name of the rivalry who’s playing.
by HawkeyedFrog on Jun 13, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
TCU v. BSU
Red State Rumble
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
Good idea, and accurate as well...
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jun 15, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
What do Texas and Idaho both have in common?
Flies! Yes, that’s all I could think of.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Beef?
The Beef Bowl?
hmmm…sadly, that’s all I got.
in all reality, how many of us really know the names of the rivalries? Isn’t Florida/Georgia…Texas/Oklahoma…Michigan/Ohio St…what we generally call them?
Let the Media's excuse begin...again: "It was Boise State's first game of the year!" whilst completely ignoring that it was VaTech's first game, as well.
by TheShrewdOne on Jun 13, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
well, texas/oklahoma
is the Red River Shootout Rivalry.
florida/georgia, isn’t that the “world’s largest cocktail party”?
Michigan/Ohio state isn’t that over-rated [/rimshot]
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
Stealing Bill Simmons' (@sportsguy33) Twitter idea. Follow me for BSU football game chants @BSUChants.
ugh
forgot the “?”…
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
Stealing Bill Simmons' (@sportsguy33) Twitter idea. Follow me for BSU football game chants @BSUChants.
What we need is some prominent TCU player/coach to insult the Blue field. Then we could call it “The Turf War”.
by HawkeyedFrog on Jun 15, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like it
Even if our field does get insulted.
"Hi, my name is Doug. I enjoy walks in the rain and bags of pork rinds."
Excellent
The ball is in your court now, Andy Dalton.
by HawkeyedFrog on Jun 15, 2010 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice, somebody has got to stur up some sh- um...BAD WORD.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jun 15, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Winners.......
Boise State’s SOS rating, and coach K’s headaches (Air Force & their wishbone offense).
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Jun 13, 2010 8:13 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
You beat me to it.
Winners; Boise State’s SOS, and by association, me for getting to relax a bit when it comes to staunchly defending the Broncos gaudy record from morons from BCS conferences.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.) Now also including Fort Worth, TX and coming soon this fall, Washington D.C.!
Welcome to the MWC Broncos...Who Else Can We Poach?
This is a big win for the MWC (strengthened BCS qualifications) and a HUGE win for Boise State (escaping the WAC). I don’t see how the BCS can continue to ignore the MWC or brush off the Broncos now.
Except that there is a growing likelihood that the Big-12 is not going away (check their Website). If the Longhorns, et. al., end up staying in the Big-12, Utah is likely to be headed west to complete the Pac-12. Still, I think the MWC comes out a little ahead with Boise State’s BCS record. But these BCS guys, say what you want about them, they are highly creative when it comes to making up excuses not to do something that they don’t want to do. Who, of any quality, can we get to replace the Utes? Houston?
But, if the Big-12 South DOES become the Pac-16 East, Utah will stay in the MWC and we can look at adding Big-12 refugee programs like Mizzou, KU and K-State. That would give us 14 teams, divisions and a Mountain West Championship game.
Any suggestions for poachees, especially if the Big-12 doesn’t disintegrate?
Fear the Frog!
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