Spring practice recap: Day 13: Could CB competition make Brandyn Thompson a backup?
As spring practice winds down, the cornerback competition is heating up. Could Brandyn Thompson's job be in jeopardy with the emergence of Jerrell Gavins and Jamar Taylor?
The Idaho Statesman's Chadd Cripe pulls some interesting quotes on the topic, and after the jump, I'll provide some interesting commentary. Which players would you want starting at cornerback? Let's discuss.
Story of the day
Brandyn Thompson's starting job is no guarantee
Coach Pete was dead serious this spring when he made it clear that every single roster spot was up for grabs from quarterback to Michael Atkinson ankle masseuse. Cornerback is no exception. Your Fiesta Bowl Defensive MVP trophy is no good here, Brandyn Thompson.
Coaches have made several references to the cornerback situation as being three players for two spots — with senior Brandyn Thompson, the Fiesta Bowl defensive MVP, needing to earn his spot for this year.
Thompson is competing with Jerrell Gavins (last year's No. 3 CB) and Jamar Taylor (2008's No. 3) for the two starting spots, but before you go thinking that Thompson's job security is a ruse kind of like Kellen Moore's job security or Jersey Shore, defensive backs coach Marcel Yates has a surprise for you:
"At times this spring, those two (Gavins and Taylor) have been the best corners and (Thompson) has been the third guy."
I imagine that the response of Bronco fans goes one of two ways.
- "Brandyn Thompson will be just fine. It's only spring practice. Thompson has too much experience and talent not to be a starter against Virginia Tech." This is the stance that the Statesman took.
- "I'm glad that Thompson is being pushed by Gavins and Taylor because I was never sold on him last season. He was way too inconsistent and picked up too many penalties. A change might be just what the secondary needs."
Which camp do you fall in? Before you decide, let me give you one more quote from Yates.
"Being a senior and a corner, you compare (Thompson) to the senior I had last year (Kyle Wilson). The senior I had last year was competing to be a first-round draft pick. As a coach you expect that from the guys who are here now. Is that fair? I don’t know, but that’s my standard and I’m going to hold them to that."
With Yates' cornerback goals in mind, do you think that Brandyn Thompson has what it takes to be first-round material? Can Thompson take the jump into Kyle Wilson territory this year? Can Gavins or Taylor?
Certainly, Thompson will need to improve his consistency from last season. Even during his memorable Fiesta Bowl performance, he was hit-and-miss; it just so happened that the hits were more timely than the misses. From what I have seen so far in spring (one scrimmage and one practice), Thompson stays on the field with the first-teamers more often than Taylor or Gavins. But from what the Bronco coaching staff is saying, Bronco fans better not get too used to that idea.
Kellen Moore feat of the day
Laser passes with pinpoint accuracy
Dear diary,
Saw Kellen Moore throw passes into tiny nets. Felt alive for the first time.
Video link if player does not work.
Offensive coordinator and QB coach Bryan Harsin was mic'ed up for Boise State's most recent practice, which means bonus Kellen Moore material. It is fun to watch Harsin operate and to see the attention to detail that he demands of his players. It is just as much fun to watch Kellen Moore throw a football into a practice net.
Miscellaneous
- At the start of spring practice, talk was that the cornerback competition was three players for one spot with Gavins, Taylor, and redshirt freshman Ebo Makinde as the three possibilities. There was no mention of Makinde at all in the recent CB stories, so I assume he is out of the running. Still, there is nothing wrong with being the dime DB.
- More from Chadd Cripe's notes-a-plenty: Jeron Johnson has vowed to improve his tackling technique. "I'm sure I missed more than 10 or so." Not having Ryan Mathews in the conference should help.
- Not sure if I have mentioned it yet or not, but Jerrell Gavins is wearing Titus Young's old No. 4. Does this mean that Tyrone Crawford can have No. 10 this fall?
- I hope that Kellen Moore going through running drills is not a sign of an expanded option playbook.
- Where does one pick up a sweatsuit like the one Bryan Harsin was wearing? I mean, besides Dick Tomey's closet.
Your turn
Which two players among Gavins, Taylor, and Thompson do you want starting at cornerback this fall? Still in amazement at seeing Kellen Moore's practice throws? Think Jeron Johnson knows how much grief he caused us in last year's Fresno game? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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Kellen Moore
“Go through those harder, Kellen!” —-Yeah, that kinda scared me a little bit. Let’s hope that statement was just made to push the other guys. Also, I thought you were being cute when you wrote to your diary about throwing in little tiny nets, but after watching it… I got real giddy inside as well. I know Moore is just so good, but everything coming out of these practices about Kellen working on the long ball and placing his feet makes things sound more negative and that he might be taking a step back. Luckily, he’s not Colin Kaepernick and these steps back are only proceeded with leaps forward.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Kellen and DBs
Loque, you stole my quote, but I’m going to say it anyways. I was all kinds of giddy watching Kellen throwing into the nets. Seeing the red plastic fly up may be one of the most beautiful things I’ve seen in a little while.
I still think Thompson is safe in his starting spot. He does have loads of talent, sometimes he just needs to make better decisions. I’m sure that he know this and is what he’ll be working on. Most of his mistakes come from his being aggressive and then getting beat. I wonder how many teams are going to be as willing to pick on Thompson this year with Wilson gone and a new starter?
For the other corner spot I feel like I lean towards Taylor. Taylor was impressive his freshman year and has a little more size. If Gavins and Taylor are neck and neck in fall practice, my bet is on Taylor. The coaches have tended to go with the younger guy who is equal in talent.
"All we can do is win the games on our schedule" - Coach Pete
by givemesomemoore on Apr 14, 2010 8:17 AM PDT reply actions
Do we ever use a 3 CB set (not including the safety)?
With as many spread O’s we face each year, I would assume that might be a interesting strategy.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Interesting idea
I know Wilson did in the Fiesta Bowl. Other then that, don’t think so. That was the time they’ve run the 3-2-6. So with a whole off-season to integrate it into the defense and further tweak it, you never know. The possibilities are endless
"All we can do is win the games on our schedule" - Coach Pete
by givemesomemoore on Apr 14, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Two cents
Watching Kellen Moore throw into those nets was downright awesome. He looked good stepping into his throws and had a quick delivery.
As far as Thompson goes, he can be kind of bitter-sweet, I guess. He makes some mistakes and those penalties are killer but he makes up for it with big interceptions. It will be interesting to see how well Jamar Taylor will do after him having so much promise and potential as a true freshman. I don’t think we’ll really know who the two starters will be until those three CB’s have played a game or two.
Also, if Jeron Johnson can tighten up his tackling he’ll be even scarier to WAC offenses. His problem was being over-aggressive and always going for the big hit, which would leave him grasping for air at times. You can’t really fault a guy for being aggressive. However, him recognizing he needs to wrap up those tackles more tells me he has his priorities straight.
"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."
At beginning, sounds like Harsin says to someone "you got something to say, say it"
Nice to see coaches who take no attitude even unexpressed. Like the intensity, and as I’ve noticed with all our coaches they miss nothing. As for CB’s, I sort of feel about starters the way I feel about boxing champions-the challenger clearly has to take it(not precise analogy but go with me). Having said that , Taylor was impressive: on replays that year I kept asking who is that, grab my roster, and many times it’d be Taylor. It’s hard to say we won’t miss Kyle(in the sense of a dropoff-he was class) but our excellent play at corner, like our historically excellent play at WR, stays intact. Having talked out both sides of my mouth I’ll show my cards-Gavins starts.(Gosh I’m a wordy guy-thanks for putting up with me OBNUGers.) WORDY LAWYER-film at 11.
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Also, right after:
“(Will?) Don’t get called out for going half-speed every time.” Glad the coaches see it and tackle it.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
After watching this video I'm proud as a GAME ROOSTER
The boys are looking good and Harsin is great.
“Don’t walk! Don’t walk, fellas! Don’t walk!”
Dang,… it’s only April.
And that's another Bronco... FIRST DOWN!!
by FirstDown on Apr 14, 2010 9:11 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Dreads
I vote Gavins and it doesn’t matter who else only because the D won’t be complete without some dreads like Wilson’s
by scrappymcfiesty on Apr 14, 2010 9:26 AM PDT reply actions
Others have already said it...
but watching Kellen throwing into tiny targets is pretty fun to watch. I love Harsin telling him to go harder between the tackles. Hopefully that is just for show and sliding practice is later in the day.
As far as Thompson goes, I fall closer to camp #2. I think he is solid, but he is not All-WAC material. He doesn’t seem as physical as Gavins and is not a lockdown guy or possess elite speed. He is a very solid CB, but I don’t think experience alone will keep him on the field. If Taylor and Gavins show they are better, the coaching staff has shown they are not hesitant to make a change and put the best players on the field.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
Actually
and is not a lockdown guy or possess elite speed.
Last spring, both Wilson and Thompson ran a 4.3.
I agree with everything else though.
"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."
That surprises me...
It seems guys consistently get some separation on him but that must be due to his technique and not his speed.
Overall, he is still very good and there are plenty of teams in the conference that would love to have him. Unfortunately for Thompson, Kyle Wilson set the bar very high and teams also built a game plan to put their best receivers on Thompson’s side so he saw more throws his way. In the Fiesta Bowl this resulted in two picks, but it also gave way to a TCU touchdown. Taylor and Gavins may not have lived up to that standard either.
I see this year’s defense becoming more balanced, where last year Wilson would lock up the boundary side and the rest of the defensive backfield could shade the other way.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
Rec'd
Wow, I seriously felt like a kid on Christmas watching Kellen drop those passes on a dime. Absolutely incredible. Can anyone say Heisman?
Also, I am definitely of the latter opinion regarding our corners. I love Brandyn Thompson, but I have absolutely no faith in him. In fact, I have absolutely the opposite. When an opponent throws a fade or a deep post to Brandyn’s side, I fully expect a touchdown/brilliant catch over Thompson EVERY TIME. I am actually surprised when he goes up and makes a good play. Sure, I understant and respect that he was the Fiesta Bowl MVP, but need I remind everyone that the one offensive score that TCU produced was right on BT’s dome? I absolutely think Taylor and Gavins should start over Thompson. Sorry buddy. Too small, not fast enough, your hops are mediocre, and you get burned far more than you do the burning. I mean honestly, how many of you can remember how often during the regular season you caught yourself saying “freaking Brandyn Thompson!”
’Nough said.
24 times!!!
and it started with a “f” Brandyn Thompson! But what he does bring to the CB position is experience and that is huge at that position. And because of that I do believe he will continue starting for us. On the other side I believe it will be Taylor. I didnt expect much of him at first (remember he was offered a scholership to him than Thadious Brown gave a verbal to us so we took the one we gave to Taylor away. BUT then Mr. Brown ended up switching his verbal and commited to Nevada so we offered Taylor again). But he suprised me and I believe he will win the starting job opposite Thompson
"dont talk about it, be about it"
Thompson came through when it counted,
and our Broncos went undefeated, so that’s good enough for me. If he knows what’s good for him he’ll be working that much harder just to hang on to that starting job. That will mean he’s getting better. If the coaches start him at FedEx, that’s when we’ll know he’s made the improvement necessary.
by hummerofdoom on Apr 14, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Again...
Too small, not fast enough
Thompson ran a 4.3, so he does possess speed. Like MKingery pointed out above, it probably has to do with his technique and being over-aggressive.
"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."
Play the best
It would be silly to keep the best on the bench because of sentimentality or seniority of other players in that position that are not as good.
I know the BSU coaching staff agrees with me.
BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.
Kellen's touch is ridiculous.
Coughlin and Southwick threw very catchable balls on that drill and Tamburo’s was a little wonky, but Kellsy could’ve hit a ping pong ball with his tosses.
Kellen Moore is the Greg Maddux of college football
“Moore takes the snap, fades left, has plenty of time, looking, looking, fires deep! He’s got a man open! OH MY… it’s Moore to Moore! He could go all the way! Touchdown, Boise State!”
And that's another Bronco... FIRST DOWN!!
Moore's Accuracy
The throws he makes in that video is just spectacular. I’ve watched the video four times now. I can’t get enough of watching the orange flap fly up indicating Moore threw the ball right through the hole.
And I agree, Coughlin and Southwick threw good balls too. They just weren’t perfect thrown balls. By the way, I’m not impressed with Tamburo at all. I never have been. This is just my opinion, but I would be surprised if he stayed at Boise State through his whole college career.
"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."
Harsin
I love seeing Harsin’s intensity in this video. He sure doesn’t let any players slack. No wonder the offense is so explosive.
"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."
I'm getting feedback that there is still a lot of downtripping of our Broncos out there
despite my impression to the contrary. Is it even remotely possible that tmunson is out of touch? Nah.
tvmunson
Here we go
I have to disagree with a lot of you on the CB competition. Thompson, as much as I like the guy, may very well sit out. I couldnt believe he was MVP of that game. The TD interception was a outstanding play. The other was a underthrown ball that he was very lucky to be in position for. He cost us a TD and, if you all remember right, could have cost us another. The WR dropped the ball in the endzone. Now if you take a look at the final score, that spells a big loss. I’m not saying he’s not very talented, but he gives up a lot of big plays. Remind me of Dees, Brown, Scandrick. All very good but give up big yardage plays way to often.
How many toes did I just crush?
One last comment
The very fact that TCU avoided Kyle, makes him the MVP in my opinion. They knew how good he was and were’nt willing to take a chance throwing in his direction. When they did, it was a quick reminder of what their film study had already assured them of.
Thompson
At times he looked wilson-esque, other times he looked like a corner up at Idaho. He plays pick way too much, this team can’t give up big plays if they wanna be the champs. Gavins has unreal speed and seems to improve, and Taylor, although I haven’t seen much, seems reliable and was on pace for a starting job last year until he got hurt. I just don’t trust Thompson late in games with a deep threat on the other side. I hope he is more consistent.
Kirby Moore for Heisman
I'm with ruffneck
I was pretty surprised Thompson was the MVP. He gave up the TD, and got lucky that he didn’t give up another. Our defense next year should be good enough that we don’t need someone who will get big-play TDs at the expense of giving up touchdowns.
Doesn’t really mean much about who should start, I’m certainly happy with going with whoever the coaches pick :).
Little Surprised at Reaction to Thompson's Fiesta Bowl TD
Sure, his blown coverage on the “TD that never was” was not his best work.
But his coverage on the TD he allowed was textbook perfect. The only problem was TCU’s pass was textbook perfect as well. That’s one play I’ll never forget: I was sitting in the upper deck corner front row looking right down on it. Definitely can’t fault Thompson for that one.
I’m glad the coaches are pushing him in Spring Training though.
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by Please Spay and Neuter Your Pets on Apr 15, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Good post Please-you cna't ge tthat perspective watching dvd and it's helpful to share.
Reduces the number of Brandon downtrips. Gavins admitted to me he pulled the guy for the flag he got-I was telling me he was jobbed and he manfully admitted he wasn’t. Thompson’s int. in Ore I was a gem. Guy’s a player; let’s give him props. Munson says:Thompson/Gavins to start.
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