WAC recruiting rankings show that it's Boise State, Fresno State, then everyone else
The recruiting rankings are in, and just like in the old WAC days, Boise State and Fresno State are comfortably atop the conference standings.
After the jump, find out how each WAC team did in recruiting and watch video of some of the new stars of the conference. Plus, weigh in on whether or not a great recruiting class for Fresno will translate into wins down the road. See you in the comments.
The following rankings are courtesy of Scout.com and Rivals.com. The overall rankings are a reflection of the total number of points each school earned. Since Boise State's recruiting class only had 10 players, a better measure is the average points for each recruit.
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| Commits | Overall | WAC | Avg Pts | 4-star | 3-star | Overall | WAC | Avg Pts | 4-star | 3-star | |
| Fresno State | 21 | 63 | 2 | 2.38 | 1 | 5 | 52 | 1 | 2.81 | 1 | 15 |
| Boise State | 10 | 96 | 1 | 2.40 | 6 | 82 | 3 | 2.80 | 1 | 6 | |
| Louisiana Tech | 18 | 94 | 3 | 2.11 | 3 | 93 | 5 | 2.50 | 10 | ||
| Idaho | 18 | 104 | 4 | 2.06 | 4 | 97 | 7 | 2.28 | 7 | ||
| Hawaii | 28 | 81 | 5 | 2.04 | 2 | 65 | 2 | 2.39 | 11 | ||
| Nevada | 26 | 95 | 6 | 2.04 | 3 | 96 | 6 | 2.32 | 9 | ||
| Utah State | 23 | 107 | 7 | 1.96 | 1 | 108 | 9 | 2.14 | 4 | ||
| New Mexico State | 17 | 110 | 8 | 1.94 | 2 | 87 | 4 | 2.39 | 7 | ||
| San Jose State | 25 | 90 | 9 | 1.92 | 4 | 100 | 8 | 2.24 | 6 |
Did Fresno State set itself up to be Boise State's main WAC competition for years to come?
Assuming a) that Boise State stays in the WAC for several more years and b) that recruiting rankings mean anything, Fresno State turned in the most competitive class of the 2010 recruiting season and made the biggest strides toward competing with the Broncos down the road.
That said, the Bulldogs class was not exactly as star-studded as Utah's or BYU's. It was more so just an old-fashioned solid class and stands out as much for its above average rankings as for its opposition to the Mendoza averages of everyone else in the conference.
If we are supposed to believe that recruiting rankings mean something, then Fresno State and Boise State are the cream of the WAC's crop. Of course, once you factor in the Pat Hill Coaching Experience and the attrition of a debilitating non-conference schedule, that may just render the Bulldogs' recruiting advantage moot.
Fresno State's recruiting class
The Bulldogs' 2010 class was a step into the future where football teams pass to get first downs and student body left is a euphemism for campus politics. After landing QB Derek Carr in last year's class, Fresno pulled off a coup by getting two WRs, Davon Dunn and Josh Harper, to decommit from Cal and join the team.
Pat Hill spoke about the impact of the incoming WR recruits and how it might impact the Fresno offense:
"I think we've really given ourselves a chance to do some different things here because of personnel," Hill said while discussing his 2010 recruiting class for the first time. "Next year and the years to come, our big playmakers are on the perimeter. ... That personnel shift is due largely because of the quarterbacks that we have here. We have guys that can really throw it.
Somewhere, probably at an LA Fitness spinning class, Tom Brandstater weeps.
The nation's No. 1 punter, Matt Darr, chose the Bulldogs over USC most likely because Lane Kiffin is a nub. Depending on which recruiting service you prefer, either Darr or Dunn represent the Bulldogs' four-star recruit from the 2010 class.
The class was the highest-ranked group in Pat Hill's tenure at Fresno, but whether it translates to wins on the field remains to be seen. One of the Bulldogs' biggest areas of needs was defensive help, and the 2010 class fell short. Safety Edward Dillihunt was Fresno's best defensive pickup.
Top recruit: WR Davon Dunn
How they will use him
Inappropriately, especially in big games.
Louisiana Tech's recruiting class
Derek Dooley did pretty well in his Tennessee recruiting debut, and his replacement at LaTech, Sonny Dykes, didn't do too shabby himself. In two weeks with the Bulldogs, Dykes was able to keep most of the early verbal commitments from Dooley's tenure, including Denton, Texas, QB Taylor Burch.
"It was a little mixed up after Dooley left, but he wasn’t the reason I was going to Tech," Burch said. "I talked with Coach Dykes, and he seems like the guy I want to play for. It wasn’t really hard for me."
Also, that forehead!
Top recruit: WR Tim Molton
A transfer from LSU, Molton should boost LaTech's receiving corps and fit in nicely with whatever Texas Tech-like offense Dykes decides to install.
How they will use him:
On deep routes that Ross Jenkins will inevitably underthrow.
Idaho's recruiting class
The Vandals pulled off several rare feats on signing day.
- They did not finish toward the bottom of the conference in recruiting.
- They discovered that high school football is indeed played in the state of Idaho.
- They made mention of their winning program ad nauseum.
- They stole a recruit from a Pac-10 school.
All in all, if you were a Vandal fan, you had to be happy both because Idaho pulled in a decent class and because I heard the McRib is coming back to McDonald's. Among Idaho athletes, the Vandals got DT Tyler Kuder from Payette, OL Spencer Beale from Lewiston, QB Justin Podrabsky from Lewiston, and RB Jayson Washington from Moscow. Just stay away from Capital High, Robb Akey. You can have all the Minico players you want.
Top recruit: RB Ryan Bass
Bass spent two seasons at Arizona State before coming over to the Vandals to play with cousin Marsel Posey, a wide receiver on the team. Bass is most notable for being a former Parade All-American. I believe he was in the issue with Mike Myers and Cameron Diaz on the cover for Shrek 2.
How they will use him:
Keeping RB Deonte Jackson off the streets at night.
Hawaii's recruiting class
The Warriors went after four main areas with their recruiting push - DE, OL, CB, and WR - and they went four-for-four with a large class that was one of the WAC's best behind the Broncos and Bulldogs. The Diet Coke was flowing freely at the Hawaii athletic department last night!

Of note, DE VJ Fehoko signed with Utah. Fehoko is the third son of the Hawaii mascot. Man, I love Hawaii journalism.
Top recruit: DE Beau Yap
Yap was a Baylor commit until this week when he turned down the Bears in favor of his hometown Warriors. Choosing Waco, Texas, over Honolulu, Hawaii? Yeah, I guess I can buy that. The 6'2", 230-pound pass rush specialist should help out a lackluster Warrior front four.
How they will use him:
In a Greg McMackin PSA.
Nevada's recruiting class
The Wolf Pack went heavy on the offensive and defensive lines with 14 of their 26 commits playing in the trenches. The biggest uglies were DT Willie Faatauelafo (6'3", 292 pounds) and OG Avery Poates (6'4", 308 pounds). Rumor has it that Colin Kaepernick wore inflatable leg casts when he met the two new recruits, just in case one of them fell down and rolled into Kaepernick's shins.
Top recruit: QB Cody Fajardo
The Wolf Pack lost out on a QB prospect when Eagle High's Taylor Kelly decommitted and went to Arizona State. Fajardo came onto the recruiting radar late with a state title run and received offers from Nebraska and Arizona after committing to Nevada. He is a dual threat and the likely replacement for Colin Kaepernick either in 2011 or beyond.
How they will use him:
If Kaepernick is any indication, they will not be using Fajardo to complete more than 60 percent of the team's passes.
Utah State's recruiting class
Note to self: You don't want to have your recruiting story start out like this:
When looking at Gary Andersen and Utah State's recruiting class, the word that can best describe the Aggies' haul is progress.
The Aggies turned in one of the WAC's worst classes, and not even the lipstick of progress can make this pig look good. According to Scout's rankings, the Aggies had only one three-star recruit. According to the spin masters at the Salt Lake Tribune, Utah State now has the depth needed to withstand one or two injuries ... to QB Diondre Borel. Two of the Aggies' best recruits QBs Jeremy Higgins and Alex Hart, the latter a local product.
Perhaps the best news out of the USU class was that the Aggies scored a couple of Florida prospects. The pipeline to Logan is alive and kicking!
Top recruit: OLB Chris Fox
The 6'3" LB had plenty of offers from USU-esque schools, including Nevada and NMSU. He was the highest-ranked player according to Scout's rankings.
How they will use him:
As a distraction to how awful the rest of the defense is.
New Mexico State's recruiting class
Depending on which service you like, the Aggies either had a pretty good recruiting class or a typically anticlimactic recruiting class. Either way, at least head coach DeWayne Walker has his priorities straight:
The defensive line and offensive line were a focus for Coach Walker’s second signing class as head coach. The Aggies signed three defensive lineman and three offensive linemen.
Are they any good? Beats me. There is at least one good one in the bunch (see below) and three of the six were three-star players according to Rivals. If the lines work themselves out, NMSU might not be awful forever.
Top recruit: OL Aundre McGaskey
McGaskey was a JC star at Brinn Community College where he excelled at pass blocking, standing around prior to games, and sitting on people.
Plus, he has the intimidation face down pat:
How they will use him:
At QB because, really, who else do they got?
San Jose State's recruiting class
In case you missed it, 2010 LOI Day marked the official transition of the San Jose State Spartans into the third spot on the WAC's bottom tier, previously held by the Idaho Vandals. OK, that might not be completely true. After all, I am still pretty convinced that Idaho is a one-year wonder and that one poor recruiting year does not doom a program.
Still, there was not a whole lot to write home about with the 2010 SJSU class. The Spartans may have picked up their skill players of the future with three-star signings at QB, RB, and WR. If those players pan out, the Spartans 2010 class might look a whole lot better than it does right now.
Top recruit: RB Forrest Hightower
The Spartans got their Jeremy Avery with the commitment of Hightower. The 5-11, 170-pound back is shifty and elusive, and he could be the offensive help that the team needs in a couple years.
How they will use him:
Extensively because SJSU cannot pass worth beans.
Your turn
What do you think about Fresno State's recruiting class? Any incoming WAC players have you worried? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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Idaho's class was truly Hawaii-esque...
Tons of JC guys and a transfer with discipline problems. If you look at pictures of Robb Akey and June Jones side by side (at least when Jones still rocked the ‘stache) you’ll notice eerie similarities.
by Drew Roberts on Feb 4, 2010 9:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Prepare yourself for the spin that the fourletters is about to heap upon Boise State.
Something along these lines;
Herbstreit in 3 months: “Boise State’s 2010 recruiting class was ranked a dismal 96th by Scout.com. I say no way they can compete for a National Title this year.”
Completely ignoring the obvious fact that this year’s class will have little to do with it.
May in 3 months: “National Championship contenders a chock full of four anf five star recruits, Boise State is not.”
Ignoring the obvious fact that even though they don’t own Scout.com memberships, the Broncos have still gone undefeated 3 out of the last 4 regular season and have two BCS wins.
I guarantee some way, somehow, they spin this thing against boise State. Just like earlier this week when Ivan Maisel tweeted something to this effect;
“With Va. Tech first on the Broncos schedule, now we get to see how they deal with 7 months of expectations.”
Completely ignoring the obvious fact that they just did that this last year, opening against Oregon.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Feb 4, 2010 9:47 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Right on Mikrino-I'd be embarassed for him if he wasnt such an (BW)
tvmunson
by tmunson on Feb 4, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh how quickly the MM forgets
Looks like Mark May is getting a head start.
It’s tough to correlate recruiting rankings directly to team performance when there are so many other factors to consider (I tried very hard in the above article to avoid this and I might have failed). It is even more difficult to do when the team is as well-coached, the rankings are gathered based on quantity of commits, and personal media biases don’t translate to on-field performance. Oh well. What are you going to do? I mean, besides go 14-0 and not win NCs.
"Islanders fan, huh? Team of the future, I'd say." - Roger Johnson
by Kevan Lee on Feb 4, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd! Exactly why I think recruit rankings are the evil twin sister of pre-season rankings.
Boise State’s class rank will be low automatically based on size alone. What does it really mean though? Nothing if you ask me. It’s like SOS, it’s supremely subjective from the start.
It’s all a guess based on the individual feelings of one person or very small groups. There are too many variables for it to be accurate for any length of time.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Feb 4, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
big deal
VT, Oregon St., bowl game. It’s not a huge leap to imagine BSU could possibly lose any or all 3. Theoretically they could lose 12 games next year. I wouldn’t get too worked up over it.
by hummerofdoom on Feb 4, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t get too worked up. I just don’t want the shine to rub off BSU’s great 2009 already. I especially don’t want Mark My rubbing it off.
"Islanders fan, huh? Team of the future, I'd say." - Roger Johnson
by Kevan Lee on Feb 4, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what irritates me about may is...
…he (and he’s not the only one) doesn’t give bsu the benefit of the doubt. if a prognosticator (incorrectly) feels that VT (or insert team here) will actually beat bsu, then fine. it’s the attitude that a) bsu WILL lose to said team, b) bsu doesn’t stand a chance or, c) if by some MIRACLE bsu does beat said team, they couldn’t do so consistently, said team was having a “down time” or they had to use a “gimmicky” play to finish it off. To point C, i say: bsu had to have done enough things right up to that point to have that one “gimmicky” play work. you can’t discount the entire game because of perfect execution on a “gimmick”.
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
by Grindhouse on Feb 4, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd. That's why Mark May makes a horrible analyst.
He’s the furthest thing from objective. He’s a mouthpiece who apparently gives ESPN something they want.
I agree also, it seems as though no matter what BSU does the fourletters immediately has one of their jack-off drones with a retort. Whether its categorically ruling out a Boise State win, saying they’re outmatched, or when they do win blaming it on the lack of effort from the other team, or their “off day”. But in no way is it ever that the Broncos are good, well coached, and prepared.
No it couldn’t be that, then all their “analysis” would be in vain.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Feb 4, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
my favorite is when they say...
…that bsu couldn’t go undefeated in such-and-such conference. again, you can’t accurately say that b/c who knows?! AND they wouldn’t necessarily have to go undefeated. how many times in the past years has a one or two loss team made it to the NC from a BSC conference? now, yes, if any non-aq lost there would be NO chance for a shot (which is unjust). bull crap i say.
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
by Grindhouse on Feb 4, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
even Lou Holtz pulls out that crap argument
And he’s usually in the Broncos’ corner. What can you do. Broncos can’t do anything about it except win.
by hummerofdoom on Feb 4, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ughhhh
“schedule harder out of conference!”
/throwup
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
by Grindhouse on Feb 4, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that's right, Akey
Stay away from Capital High!
by hummerofdoom on Feb 4, 2010 10:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fresno's Nine Years of Relative Mediocrity
Fresno State head coach Pat Hill’s quote after his Bulldogs were blown out by Boise State to end the ’08 season, “Boise State has great coaching and the best players in the conference.” Translation: “FSU has better players but, as usual, we got our butts kicked because we were out-coached (better schemes, more disciplined players, balanced recruiting).”
Using Rivals.com’s recruit class rating data from ‘07 through ’10, FSU had classes ranked, respectively, 74, 58, 82, and 52. BSU’s classes were 68, 89, 72 and 82. Blue chips you ask (3-stars and up)? FSU 37 over the four years to BSU’s 29. Note: A study of Rival’s data from the time the rating service began publishing recruit ratings online in ‘02, shows that FSU maintains a consistent lead over BSU in total recruit value points.
Hill snatches 90% of his recruits from California, more than half of those from the close to home Central Valley and Northern California, and the balance from the Southern California Inland Empire where he is from.
FSU has five players in the 2010 NFL combine, one of which is a top-five running back in the draft (Ryan Matthews) and his back-up, Lonyae Miller, was the leading rusher in the Senior Bowl.
A monkey has been known to fall out of tree occasionally, but don’t expect FSU to win in any of its future match-ups with BSU until Hill is coaching somewhere other than in Fresno.
by statguy on Feb 4, 2010 10:11 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Really good stuff
I am a NE Patriots fan and they have two Fresno players on the team – Logan Mankins and James Sanders – who are quite good (Mankins may be the best guard in football). I cannot for the life of me remember these players making a difference in games against Boise State.
Pat Hill is the bizarro Game Genie of talented football teams.
"Islanders fan, huh? Team of the future, I'd say." - Roger Johnson
by Kevan Lee on Feb 4, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent point-this is a TEAM sport, not tennis
tvmunson
by tmunson on Feb 4, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The hits just keep on coming. I'm distantly related to Logan Mankins... distantly.
I know its beginning to sound like I am a pathological liar, but the truth is I never lie if I can avoid it. Really!
Logan Mankins is either a distant cousin or nephew (I can’t remember which) of my wife’s Grandmother. I know I sound crazy , but it’s true.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Feb 4, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like you even more now.
"Islanders fan, huh? Team of the future, I'd say." - Roger Johnson
by Kevan Lee on Feb 4, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pat Hill is too stubborn and doesn't adjust to his personnel.
Pat Hill is the bizarro Game Genie of talented football teams.
The rest of the college football world is finally tuning into this station. Following another mediocre season, he goes from in the mix at Washington a year ago, to on the bubble at Fresno. Will 9-4 be good enough for Fresno fans if Boise State continues to dominate the conference?
An article from the Fresno Bee posted shortly after the Fiesta Bowl sums up the divide between the two programs.
“Let’s say I’m getting recruited by both of them… I have to look at it in a lot of ways. What if I don’t have a chance to play at Boise as much as I do at Fresno? Who do they have at my position? You have to see if you have a chance to make an impact.”
Say what you want about the local Bulldogs and how they got there, but they are caught in an unfortunate scenario. They play in a conference with a national power, but an overall lack of strength. Translation: You can’t win it, and second place is worthless.
And perhaps the best quote comes from the reader comments:
Dream on. Boise is returning all but 1 starter next year and will be ranked in the top 5. If you think we have a chance at beating them with Pat Hill at the helm, then you must be smoking some of Montereys best.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
by MKingery on Feb 4, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Mankins & Sanders
Mankins & Sanders, both starters in NE’s most recent SB, were part of a very talented FSU team in 2004 (the WAC team favored to win the conference that season and winners over UVA in the H-Bowl) that was blown out by the Broncos.
by statguy on Feb 4, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pat Hill
After this year’s game Pat Hill made a comment on his talk show that this was the first time he felt
BSU had more talent than Fresno. I guess even he knows that as long as Petersen is around the Bulldogs can continue to make reservations for the New Mexico Bowl. At least he will have all those pre-season WAC championships in his trophy case.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
by MKingery on Feb 4, 2010 11:15 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 6 recs
rec'd! for this;
At least he will have all those pre-season WAC championships in his trophy case.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Feb 4, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what he said!
Catch me on the BroncoNation Podcast!
by OBNUG Intern on Feb 4, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KL comprehensive article-KUDOS!
tvmunson
by tmunson on Feb 4, 2010 10:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Clady was a 2 star-case closed
although I could go on and on. Recall Coach Pete’s comment about how Fiesta II will affect recruiting-“not at all I hope”.
tvmunson
by tmunson on Feb 4, 2010 10:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
i heard that clady..
..was a 4 star? please note, i read that in passing on a message board somewhere. so, most likely, that info was bad.
maybe it was his/her “justification” for clady just being really good.
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
by Grindhouse on Feb 4, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm recalling a statement made by Coach Pete regarding a previous
recruiting class and the relative rankings. I recall he said Clady was a 2 star; he may have been unranked. Either way the import was rankings, numbers etc dont mean bw at least to Pete. I know Clady was lightly regarded as was the man he replaced, D. Colledge; both went to the pros. I seriously, seriously doubt Clady had a 4 star coming here; we had very few then, and no lineman as I recall.
tvmunson
by tmunson on Feb 4, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rivals had Clady as a 2 star recruit...
..as was Ian Johnson and nearly every other recruit for that incoming class. Clearly they underrated the awesomeness that is Marty Tadman.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
by MKingery on Feb 4, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tadman was actually the "star" of that class according to Scout.com
A three-star I believe, with a couple of Pac-10 offers
by Drew Roberts on Feb 4, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
point is we have an abundance of talent and we have never had a prepossessing recruiting class
tvmunson
by tmunson on Feb 4, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Clady
Clady was an overweight mostly D-lineman in his senior year at Rialto, CA Eisenhower, where he played on a poor team. He didn’t attend any camps and outside of BSU, only the two powerhouse WAC programs, Utah State and New Mexico State showed interest. Scout and Rivals listed him generously as a 2-star.
by statguy on Feb 4, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
And he came here and worked hard; I still remember when he stepped into the Boston College game and handled the DE wiith the funny name and thin-skin(what happened to that bw in the NFL?) BTW I knew a guy who was taking his daughter to Boise State, setting he rup in a dorm. He was carrying stuff in when he heard this soft voice ask if he could help. turned around and saw this giant-Clady. Helped him carry her stuff into the dorm. Sounds like a nice guy.
tvmunson
by tmunson on Feb 4, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this quote from Coach Pete from an article in Kevan's morning links puts it in perspective.
In the past, once a player was found by the Broncos and got a verbal commitment, many were afraid a “bigger” program would swoop in and snatch them up. The 2010 class was devoid of players jumping for bigger programs — in fact, they spurned those football powers for Boise State.
“We like it when people talk about Boise State like that — everybody just assumes we won’t be there,” Petersen said. “Well, that’s usually what they do with us half the time on the football field, too.”
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Feb 4, 2010 10:25 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
As for ranking Bronco recruiting class
exactly WHEN in the last decade or so have the Broncos had a class that compares favorably with Florida, Texas, Arkansas(keep going). I think the records speak for themselves.
tvmunson
by tmunson on Feb 4, 2010 12:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
















