Boise State depth chart versus Hawaii: What would Broncos do without their injured stars?
Tis the season for Boise State's injury report to be super long. The Louisiana Tech game left a lot of Broncos sitting on the sideline, and with little help from this week's injury report, it's anyone's guess as to what players will be able to go on Saturday. Fortunately, I love guessing! That's like half of what I write.
Continue reading for my analysis of what the Broncos might do without some injured stars and feel free to add your take in the comments. Plus, get a look at the complete depth chart for Hawaii week as well as some strategy, notes, and thoughts on this week's personnel.
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Boise State defense |
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Z - 2 Austin Pettis 6-3 203 Sr. X - 1 Titus Young 5-11 175 Sr. H - 89 Tyler Shoemaker 6-1 215 Jr. LT - Nate Potter 6-6 300 Jr. LG - Joe Kellogg 6-2 299 So. C - 66 Thomas Byrd 5-11 281 Jr. RG - 59 Will Lawrence 6-2 291 Sr. RT - 72 Matt Slater 6-4 267 Sr. TE - 80 Kyle Efaw 6-4 232 Jr. QB - 11 Kellen Moore 6-0 191 Jr. RB - 22 Doug Martin 5-9 212 Jr. FB - 47 Dan Paul 6-0 241 Jr. |
E - 98 Ryan Winterswyk 6-4 270 Sr.
96 Jarrell Root 6-3 257 Jr. T - 90 Billy Winn 6-4 288 Jr. N - 97 Chase Baker 6-1 295 Jr. SE - 92 Shea McClellin 6-3 254 Jr. MIKE- 94 Byron Hout 6-0 223 Jr. WILL- 36 Aaron Tevis 6-3 232 Jr. S 23 Jeron Johnson 5-11 198 Sr. S 8 George Iloka 6-3 209 Jr. N 17 Winston Venable 5-11 220 Sr. CB 21 Jamar Taylor 5-11 191 So. CB 13 Brandyn Thompson 5-10 177 Sr. |
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Returners |
| PK - 35 Kyle Brotzman 5-10 197 Sr.
14 Trevor Harman 6-2 197 Fr. KO - 14 Trevor Harman 6-2 197 Fr. HD - 2 Austin Pettis 6-3 203 Sr. P - 35 Kyle Brotzman 5-10 197 Sr. SNP - 44 Chris Roberson 6-0 226 So. |
KR - 4 Titus Young 5-11 175 Sr. PR - 3 Chris Potter 5-9 160 So. |
Disclaimer: Depth charts mean as much as you want them to mean. Keep in mind that things change over the course of a game week and that game situations, injuries, and performance will render some of this depth chart moot. Still, it's fun to speculate ... with hyperbole! Kyle Efaw better take out an insurance policy on his foot!
Medic! The injury bug strikes Boise State, allegedly
The Broncos were a hurting football team after the four-touchdown win over Louisiana Tech. How hurting? Nobody knows, and if they do, then nobody is saying.
Here is what we know: Tommy Gallarda is out for the remainder of the regular season.
Here is what we don't know: Anything else.
That leaves a laundry list of injuries that we fans have no idea about and are therefore forced to speculate on. Speculate? Gladly. Here's who's injured and what it means.
Tommy Gallarda
- Status: Out with a broken foot
- Replacements: Kyle Efaw, Gabe Linehan, Chandler Koch
- What this means: Gallarda was the team's blocking tight end and goalline Lynn Swann. With his injury, Efaw moves to starter, which is a role he has been ready to embrace for the past two seasons. He is not the blocker that Gallarda was, but he's definitely improved in that area. Behind him sits Gabe Linehan (a pass catcher) and Chandler Koch (a mauler). The passing game should remain the same without Gallarda. The running game may change. Will the Broncos run more out of shotgun and spread sets? Can Koch capably fill in on obvious run situations? Will Dan Paul play more tight end? Quick, intern. To Yahoo Answers!
Kyle Brotzman
- Status: Probable with a leg injury
- Replacements: Jimmy Pavel, Trevor Harman
- What this means: Bronco coaches expect Brotzman to handle scoring kicks this week, and thank goodness. After seeing Jimmy Pavel's try from 30 yards, I will never take Brotzman for granted again. Harman will remain the kickoff specialist (if that's what you want to call it) and the punter, and he also moved ahead of Pavel on the backup placekicker depth chart. Depending on Brotzman's health, we may see Boise State forced to attempt more 4th down tries this week. The Broncos are four-for-nine on 4th down this year.
Aaron Tevis
- Status: Questionable with leg injury
- Replacements: J.C. Percy, Daron Mackey
- What this means: The Broncos could really use Tevis's pass defense skills against Hawaii this week. The man had a one-handed pick-six for crying out loud. Percy did well subbing for Tevis, but he is more of a downhill run stopper than a savvy pass defender.
Cedric Febis
- Status: Questionable with undisclosed
- Replacements: Jason Robinson
- What this means: Febis's biggest contributions come on special teams. He is a strong tackler and sound football player, and his presence on coverage would certainly help on Saturday. Jason Robinson is probably at the point in his game conditioning (after coming off a suspension) where he is close to Febis's level on defense. Either player figures to see more playing time than usual against the pass-heavy Warriors.
Joe Kellogg
- Status: Questionable with leg injury
- Replacements: Faraji Wright, Chuck Hayes
- What this means: Kellogg was on crutches in the LaTech game, so his injury seemed to be one of the more serious injuries to come from that game. If he can't go, Wright may be the guy to fill in for him. The Broncos made a point of moving Wright's name next to Kellogg's on this week's depth chart, but Chuck Hayes (the former top Kellogg backup) is also in the mix. And then there's this: Could Nate Potter move back to guard? He was there almost all offseason.
Brandyn Thompson
- Status: Questionable with shoulder injury
- Replacement: Jerrell Gavins
- What this means: Boise State has the personnel to overcome an injury to Thompson either by subbing Jerrell Gavins or by running much more zone D. Still, it would be ideal to have Thompson healthy for this one.
Jeron Johnson
- Status: Questionable with undisclosed
- Replacement: Travis Stanaway
- What this means: Bronco fans had the same angst-ridden week of will-he-or-won't-he when Johnson was injured prior to the Virginia Tech game. So simply transfer your fears and worries from that scenario over to this week. Hopefully Johnson is fine.
Chase Baker
- Status: Questionable with undisclosed
- Replacements: Ricky Tjong-A-Tjoe, J.P. Nisby
- What this means: T-N-T and Old Man Nisby get plenty of playing time as it is, so you would probably just see more of them than usual. Baker's injury looked like one of the least serious ones to come from the LT game, but then again, who knows. Certainly not anyone outside of the Boise State Shroud of Secrecy, that's for sure.
And now a rant about Boise State's injury report
Or lack thereof. Am I right?
As a Bronco fan, I want to know every single thing there is to know about the football team. I am like a lot of you, only dorkier and with my own blog. And I understand that my insatiable curiosity is going to go unmet most of the time. But I don't think it's too much to ask for updates to injured Bronco players.
When you think about it, we fans know almost as little as possible about this football team. We get suspension announcements hours before kickoff. We get access to scrimmages maybe three times a year. Boise State has information locked down so tight that even the local media only gets what Max Corbet allows out of his great wisdom.
Throw us a bone here. We simply want to know what's going on with the team.
Who's with me?
Don't blame Thompson and Taylor for Boise State's generous pass defense
Blame everyone but them. Except the defensive line. Never blame the defensive line. They are holy.
According to Coach Pete, Boise State's perceived secondary weakness is a result of opponents attacking the Broncos with short, quick throws that put the coverage burden on linebackers, nickels, and sub corners. And if Coach Pete says it, it has to be right.
"You think about your corners No. 1 and your safeties No. 2, and that's not what we're talking about," Petersen said. "Offenses are smart. We can be at times a very tough defense to run the ball on and we can be a tough defense to hold the ball a long time against. There's always give and take to what you're going to give up. Are we going to give up some short passes and rally to the ball? Yeah, we are. We can't let it be consistent, we can't let it break our back, but you've got to pick your poison."
And there you have it. The Bronco defense, no matter how incredibly great it is, cannot stop every single football play imaginable. The Broncos have to give somewhere.
So how do you feel about Boise State giving the short passes?
I feel fine about it so long as the Broncos tackle. You cannot beat Boise State by relying solely on dinking and dunking it down the field. You can beat them by doing that and breaking tackles.
Your thoughts?
The Mitch Burroughs Experience returns to the depth chart
After missing four weeks with a sprained ankle, Burroughs returned last week ... and promptly botched the downing of Kellen Moore's immaculate punt. Oh well. You have to start your road to recovery somewhere.
Burroughs is listed right behind Pettis, Young, and Shoemaker on the team's wide receiver depth chart, so you can expect him to resume his pleasantly effective role in the offense as soon as this week. Burroughs was not so successful in regaining his role as the team's top punt returner. No backsies! That, and Chris Potter has been a delight.
Ryan Winterswyk sack watch enters Week Eight, better start sacrificing goats
Seriously, seven games and no sacks? Winterswyk is having Jarrell Root's 2009.
Boise State exotic defenses return
The Broncos played a whole lot of 3-4 against Louisiana Tech with Shea McClellin and Jarrell Root taking turns as stand-up linebacker types. The scheme worked and it didn't work. The Bulldogs were able to run with a little more success than usual against a three-man front, but they were hardly setting the world on fire.
Will the Broncos go with more 3-4 this week against Hawaii? Will the 3-3-5 return? This game may be the biggest test of Pete Kwiatkowski's young coordinator career - coming up with a way to stop a hot team that specializes in exactly what your defense does not specialize in.
Boise State likes these players, so I like these players
The Broncos' internal players of the week against Louisiana Tech were Tyler Shoemaker (offense), Byron Hout (defense), Jason Robinson (special teams), Chase Baker and Thomas Byrd (linemen), and Shea McClellin (Hammer). Considering this game happened like five years ago in college football time, I'm not sure how relevant any of this is.
Your turn
What injured Bronco player do you think the team can least do without? How do think Boise State will defend Hawaii's high-flying offense? Will Ryan Winterswyk break through with a sack this week? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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My simplified priorities list for defense goes like this:
1)stop the run
2)no deep balls
After that, Coach Pete is right-you gotta’ pick your poison. In that same article he said he doesnt think much about the secondary, and that you notice when they get burned but not the times they dont. Got me thinkin’, and I felt better about the secondary. Because we get pressure with our 4, the deep routes dont develop. Well, they gotta do something, and dink and dunk is it. Percentages favor the D is #2 above does not occur. Line penalties, route screwup-a dink and dunk gives the D a lot to work with.
On injuries, I guess Coach P figures give your opponent as much to think about as possible.
tvmunson
Hawaii priorities
Better move tackeling in space to the top of the list. They throw quick passes to the flankers in the flat and bubble screens and hope for missed tackels. We’ll have one shot to stop them for short or no gains, we have to tackel.
Letting teams get the short pass must be working well.
I went to http://www.cfbstats.com/2010/national/index.html and Boise is #120 (#1) in the country on “Opponent Long Scrimmage Plays”.
According to this site nobody has had a play from scrimmage longer than 30+ yards. Nobody has run for more than 20+ or passed for more than 30+ yards. Pretty impressive if you ask me!
by Future_Demagogue on Nov 2, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd for great name, our own my "Napoleon in rags". (ref "Like a Rolling Stone")
Key to Coach K’s D-no big plays, make ‘em line up and earn, and eventually they’ll short out.
tvmunson
You gots it.
While Boise State’s pass D has looked soft and doughy compared to the rock solid run D…they really haven’t given up much. Some first downs here and there and some broken tackles every once in a while. In fact, the only long-ish receiving TD I remember giving up this year was the Boykin one in game one (where Thompson wiffed on the tackle) and the TD when we played OSU (when Jeron mistimed his jump).
If we stay aggressive with our blitz packages and disciplined with our pass coverage, we should be fine. Hawaii will have to hold Boise State under 30 points to have a chance, IMO.
Good stat
The longest play i can remember is OSU’s TD pass that Jeron Johnson could have picked. Broncos should be commended, too, for taking P.I. on deep balls where they were beaten.
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by Loque on Nov 2, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
According to my stats...
BSU has given up 21 plays of twenty or more yards.
The longest was a 36 yard pass for Wyoming in the 2nd quarter. Wyoming also had a 35 yard touchdown pass in the 3rd quarter. (The Boykin TD was 34 yards and the OSU completion, fumble, TD was 27 yards)
La Tech had five of those big 20+ yard plays and Toledo, Va Tech and OSU had four each.
The longest rush was Tyrod Taylor’s immaculate scramble for 29 yards
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
Sorry, was my post confusing?
21 plays of 20 or more yards is right on. And they’ve only given up four plays of more than 30 and none over 40. Boise is the only team in the country to do that (none over 40)!
Great website for a quick stat look. http://www.cfbstats.com/2010/national/index.html
by Future_Demagogue on Nov 2, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
rec'd for Mikrino-like stat throwdown! You beat me to it. That deserves to turn green.
Championships should be earned on the field, not in newspapers or computers.
BTW all comments condign-can only amplify.
LB-correctly noted Tevis’ pass D; Mackey very good LB but more downhill as is Percy
S- Jonathan Brown also looks good; if he aint’ even on depth chart we got us’ sum’ talent back ‘dahr
DT-Baker; no I won’t even think of it; no; no ;no
OL-Kellogg is ok; plus at this position we go deeper than Paris Hilton’s gynecologist
SS-Robinson: even Steven, no dropoff, none
CB-Thompson will play, and if he plays, he will destroy
TE-Koch is much more of a receiving threat than anyone realizes; he’s got the icy vein/soft hands thing. Won’t get a lot of tosses, opposing teams will see no #85 and overlook him. He’ll get us at least one first down, maybe a td.
tvmunson
by tmunson on Nov 2, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Look Hawaii is going to make some plays, no doubt of it. they are fundamentally solid.
Key for us is making them hang with us.
tvmunson
Koch in the Gallarda mold?
Good note on Brown. He’s been getting lots of PT on passing downs.
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Koch
Separated his left shoulder in the La-Tech, won’t be playing. Try this on, a certain d-end playing a few snaps a TE.
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Jeron Johnson
Of all the injured or possible injured players, I think missing JJ would be hard on the defense. Sure he misses tackles sometimes but he’s been the team’s leading tackler going on three years in a row. He’s also the quarterback of the defense. JJ has the ability to set the tone for the night. He would be missed greatly.
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by JRig on Nov 2, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
If memory serves we've only lost one game where he's started-JJ be the bomb. We need him. Correct choice for call of the
question (which I overlooked in my haste to post (“posthaste”?))
tvmunson
Did anybody else feel that..........
our defence over ran the ball against LT. It seemed like LT had a delayed hand off towards the end of that game where they simply waited for the pressure to develope around the QB before handing it off, leaving less defensive players for the running back to navigate. Several times I thought we would get a sack only to have a back come squirting out of the back field.
Tackling..
When the broncos tackle all is well..
Tackling..
When the broncos tackle all is well..
by kburnem on Nov 2, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
a munson nod, yes
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by Kevan Lee on Nov 2, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Re: Thompson
What this means: Boise State has the personnel to overcome an injury to Thompson either by subbing Jerrell Gavins or by running much more zone D. Still, it would be ideal to have Thompson healthy for this one.
I don’t buy this. Crissie, don’t shoot me, but Gavins has been beaten way too often for my comfort. He plays soft, breaks late, and ends up out of position regularly. With his lack of height, he can’t afford to be out of position against the Warriors. The TD catch he gave up to La Tech over the middle would’ve been PBU, maybe an INT if Thompson or Taylor had been in coverage.
Don’t get me wrong, Thompson makes me nervous sometimes as well, but much less so than Gavins does. Also, Thompson seems to rise to the occasion against Hawai’i. I’d love to see another 3-pick performance from him!
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Well said, D
Gavins definitely gives up more than Thompson or Taylor. If Broncos sub him for Thompson, would you feel better if Boise State does more zone? Think Gavins makes a better slot corner? I’ve heard some fans prefer Taylor in that role since he is more physical with jams.
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Taylor is my new fav corner!!
Less I hear of him the more I like him!
Except the suspension….
I once meet Coach Pete and shook his hand. I knew at that very moment, I had touched God.
I would suggest...
that maybe Kyle Wilson needs to come back! ;-) Honestly I don’t think Gavins can lose the game for us, but a strong showing at CB will help keep Bronco Nation from developing a case of tourets syndrome.
Actually, I think if we’re not blitzing, go ahead and let him play man, but keep a safety in his vicinity. But if we’re blitzing (and Gavins isn’t one of the blitzers) then we have to play zone, both for pass coverage and to contain the occasional draw/scramble.
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by D_Summit on Nov 2, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The CB sitch
Is a lot more relevant than we may notice folks. Hawaii’s half spread half pistol was very effective in their week 1 loss to USC. We need to focus on keeping the ball in our hands to give the defense some rest between sets. Hawaii works off momentum and speed, keep your eyes on polares or whatever and make sure we cover deep. At the end of the day, we’ll be fine and the Brennan-esque Moniz will throw up a lot of balls. I think we need BT to cover.
by bsubuff on Nov 2, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
As frustrating as it is to not know what injuries we're facing...
It’s got to be worse for opposing coaches. They don’t know who they have to prepare for, so they have to be worried at the plethora of players that we could throw at them at any position.
Besides, if Coach Pete thinks keeping people in the dark, it must be correct. We mere mortals should not question his decisions.
that should read
“if Coach Pete thinks keeping people in the dark is the best idea…”
What kind of blog has no edit button?
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by Boise State of Mind on Nov 2, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
And proper credit to Jewel
In this little ditty.
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by Boise State of Mind on Nov 2, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
injuries
We were pretty banged up before the TCU game. I think our chances are good. I dont think Tevis will play, Kellog will, but Hawaii wont run much. I think Jonathan Brown will get some time even with Gavins/Thompson, and Taylor. His speed will be needed. Expect a defensive scheme that we havent seen all year.
seems like a perfect time to reintroduce
The famous 4 1 6 defense circa the Fiesta Bowl II. Put Thompson and Taylor at CB with Venable, JJ, Illoka, and Gavins… they blitz’d Gavins quite a few times off of the edge vs La Tech and it looked like his timing was just off, another 10 days of work on it and we may see a K Wilson style destruction of Muniez (spelling) handed out by Gavins.
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by TooMuchYoung on Nov 2, 2010 7:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
moniz?
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by TooMuchYoung on Nov 2, 2010 7:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I like it
I have seen some good variations already with Thompson taking wide side, Gavins at short corner, Taylor and Iloka manning up in the slot, Jeron taking the free safety, and bringing pressure. The only weakness I saw with that was the 8 yard crossing route for a first down a la Toledo. But we get plenty of pressure with that. I do think we will see some good stuff. Expect Hawaii to score some points but expect us to force 2 turnovers or more.
I agree
I think the D scheme against LA Tech was vanilla, and they held stuff back for Hawaii.
by ElPepeGrande on Nov 3, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Listening to the Hawaii QB....
….you would have thought they had already won the game. I hope the Bronco D heard that as well. What’s our home record again? Oh yea, now I remember. Keep talking, and while your at it ask Timmy Chang how it worked out for him. lol
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by joe bob priddy on Nov 3, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions

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