Everything you need to know for Boise State vs. Idaho
Idaho is the worst.
And while I think that is probably all that needs to be said in a preview of the Vandals, I went ahead and wrote a couple hundred words after the jump going over matchups, storylines, and keys to Friday's game. Take a read and let me know what you think in the comments.
No. 4 Boise State vs. Idaho
- When to watch: Friday, November 12, 7:00 MT kickoff
- Where to watch: Kibbie Dome, Moscow, Ida. (Capacity: 16,000)
- How to watch: Live on ESPN2 with Joe Tessitore and Rod Gilmore; also on ESPN3.com and ESPN3D
- What to wager: Boise State by 35 points
- What to wear: Domed stadium, forecast calls for rednecks, low IQs, and the stench of losing
Three matchups to watch
LB Robert Siavii, LB Homer Mauga, and SS Shiloh Keo vs. WR Tyler Shoemaker
Like all good things with the Boise State offense, Shoemaker's recent success (100 yards receiving in the first half of the last two games) has come from mismatches. Get Shoemaker on a linebacker, and he's likely to be open. Idaho will need to account for him in their gameplan this week, and it will be interesting to note whether Siavii, Mauga, Keo, or a nickelback gets the call in coverage.
OT Matt Cleveland and OT Tyrone Novikoff vs. DE Shea McClellin and DE Ryan Winterswyk
Here's a stat that I like a whole lot: The Vandals are 117th out of 120 teams in sacks allowed this season. Yikes! Cleveland and Novikoff will have to play the game of their lives to keep McClellin and Wintersywk at bay. Either that, or the Vandals will have to keep seven or eight men in to protect pretty much all the time.
WR Justin Veltung vs. CB Brandyn Thompson
Veltung is the Vandals' big-play receiver, averaging a nation's-best 23 yards per catch. Big plays may be Idaho's best chance at winning this one, so the matchup of Veltung and Thompson (or Jamar Taylor, depending on BSU's preference) will be a big one.
Injury report
For Boise State:
- RB D.J. Harper out for season with ACL injury
- TE Tommy Gallarda out for regular season with broken foot
- OG Joe Kellogg questionable with lower body injury
- TE Chandler Koch questionable with unknown
For Idaho:
- TE Daniel Hardy out for regular season with broken arm
- RB Princeton McCarty questionable with knee injury
- S Gary Walker questionable (suspension)
What Idaho can do to win
I think we all learned two years ago what a little early momentum can do for the Vandals when they are playing at home. If Idaho can score early and keep the crowd in the game, they will have a better chance of staying close to the Broncos. And in rivalry games, when it's close, anything can happen. Except maybe Deonte Jackson being a gentleman.
The only thing keeping the Broncos from dropping a 50 burger on Hawaii was turnovers. The Vandals need to win the turnover battle by at least +3. And even then, there's no guarantee it will be close.
What Idaho can do to lose
The Vandals will lose if they cannot get Boise State's defensive line under control. Whether that's quick screens, draws, counters, extra blockers, whatever - Idaho has to account for that first level before even thinking about how to attack the rest of the Boise D.
Failing to get pressure on Kellen Moore will be a game-ender for the Vandals. Idaho's secondary is not nearly good enough to stick with the Boise State receivers, and Moore has proven week after week that he can pick apart a defense no matter the coverage. Pressure is the only way to limit Moore's efficiency. Or you could just wait for him to complete 19 passes in a row and get greedy. That seems to work, too.
What Boise State can do to win
Score early, score often. The worst part about rivalry games is that they even the playing field when teams are obviously not on the same level. I'm not sure that applies to this year's Boise State team (they seem to be rivalry-blind and as good on the road as they are at home), but just to be safe, let's hope the Broncos get a 21-0 first quarter lead and put this one away.
Is it true that the only person on the Idaho offense who can beat the Broncos is Nathan Enderle? I may not go that far, but a rotten, no good, very bad Enderle would sure make things easier on Friday night. If Boise State's defense can make Enderle pull a Moniz - let's say less than 250 yards passing and a couple turnovers - this one won't be close.
What Boise State can do to lose
Red zone turnovers, like the two against Hawaii, would be killers against the Vandals, especially if they come early. There is no way that Idaho can stay with Boise State in a high-scoring game, so Boise State needs to make sure the score gets high by punching it in for six every chance they get.
Thankfully, Boise State missed very few tackles last week, so hopefully that is a sign that things have been fixed. The Broncos could probably get away with missing tackles against Idaho, but there's no reason to let the Vandals extend plays and extend drives by not bringing down the ballcarrier when you have the chance.
Other factors
- Field goals. Boise State has not made a field goal since the New Mexico State game, which is kind of a misleading stat (they're only 0-for-2 during that time) but also a curious one (can Kyle Brotzman or Jimmy Pavel or Trevor Harman be counted on when needed?).
- Vandals lose leading receiver. The Vandal offense will be without Daniel Hardy (broken arm) for the rest of the regular season. It will be interesting to watch how the Idaho offense evolves without Hardy, who did his damage as a tight end.
- Coin toss. If the first quarter is as important as I think it is (and I must think it is important since I mentioned it about 10 times up above), then the result of the coin toss could be pretty big. I would hope that Boise State would receive if they win it so that they can get the ball first and get on the scoreboard.
- Homefield advantage. The Vandals had not lost at home this season until Nevada beat them big-time last weekend. If you figure Boise State > Nevada (and that's just plain good math right there), then the Kibbie Dome shouldn't be too much of a problem.
- Short week. Both teams played on Saturday and both will have a short week to prepare for this one. If anything, that benefits the Vandals because Bronco coaches won't have as much time to come up with a gameplan that completely embarrasses them. It will probably only sorta embarrass them.
- Momentum. Boise State has it, after a huge win over Hawaii. Idaho doesn't have it, after a huge loss to Nevada. So the question's to you: Does momentum carry over from week to week?
- What to expect. The Broncos played one of the most complete football games in school history last week. Chances are, they will not do that this week. There will probably be a few more mistakes, a few more "Aw nuts" moments, and maybe one or two punts. The nice thing is knowing that the Broncos do not need an A+ game to beat the Vandals.
- What to expect, Part II. At the same time, the Vandals will probably not play as poorly as they did last week against Nevada. Fans should not expect the same blowout score that the Wolf Pack put up. We can hope for it and dream about it and send it to our Vandal co-workers in passive-aggressive e-cards, but we should not be planning on it.
Your turn
How do you think Boise State matches up against the Vandals? Do last week's results matter for this week? What players are you most interested to watch? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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Here is what I am watching
This may be an intersting poll question. At the end of the game which number will be greater:
Idaho points
Boise State defensive points
Boise State sacks
Clear Eyes. Full Hearts. Can't Lose!
Nice name 'flyfishferg'.
Good to see another flyfisherman on here.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Nov 10, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
There are a few of us here.
BSU don't need smoke and mirrors to get the job done, they got orange pants.
yes there are
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Nov 10, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
I fish
There for I am…
Pedal to the metal tonight biy I want to see a 100 put up on the drunken slobs..
That and give my inlaws a very hard time…

Nothing like some great lakes King Salmon cought right off mackinac island
Notice the mid 90’s Blue Bronco hat.
by Darth Prophet on Nov 12, 2010 7:55 AM PST up reply actions
Brown Drake hatch
on Silver creek in late June! No better time on earth!
Nobility was taken at the tip of a sword.
Maybe now at the blunt of a sledge hammer!
Ok, guys ya got me.
There are more flyfishermen on here than I thought. If you see a guy flailing away on the river not really catching anything, it might very well be me. I have been at it a while, I never said I was any good.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Nov 10, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
If you haven't
Had fly line wraped around your neck with a wet fly hanging from your left earlobe you haven’t been fly fishing.
Nobility was taken at the tip of a sword.
Maybe now at the blunt of a sledge hammer!
No doubt.
I like fishing the south fork here in eastern Idaho. Then up in Island Park just below Henry’s Lake
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
ssssh
there might be some vandals lurking. you wouldn’t want them tossing bait in your favorite spot.
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Nov 10, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
and trashing the banks with empty pbr cans and little debbie wrappers.
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Nov 10, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
not to worried
they are probably all inebriated by now…it is only 2 days till the weekend.
Heck they’d probably forget which beer they were dipping their worm in.
Nobility was taken at the tip of a sword.
Maybe now at the blunt of a sledge hammer!
Strangest thing I've seen so far.......
My friend caught asmall brown bat flyfishing about 1/2 an hour before sunset on the Salmon river. I guess he had a thing for a # 14 Adams.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Nov 11, 2010 5:45 AM PST up reply actions
I hear the Vegas line is
BSU -7 1/2 on Idaho pnts. Vrs BSU sacks
Nobility was taken at the tip of a sword.
Maybe now at the blunt of a sledge hammer!
Yeah, and John Friesz said yesterday that Doug Martin should've been immediately suspended for that game for the sledgehammer stunt
What a tool.
by Drew Roberts on Nov 10, 2010 7:57 AM PST up reply actions
Eh, had he used the sledgehammer on number 71 there
then yes suspend him, but on the “I”? Come on…
by 4EverBleedBlue on Nov 10, 2010 8:00 AM PST up reply actions
Just like the whole Vandal squad dancing on the old Bronco logo
I think that was after the epic beatdown in 1992 that cost Skip Hall his job, that the whole Idaho team ran out to mid-field to dance on the logo. Sure left a bad taste in my mouth – and only helped advance the rivalry. Suspensions I think not.
he was a third string nickel at the time
how much can you suspend a guy who doesn’t play?
Friesz is a typical Candal. He complains about the Broncos, but gives his guys a pass.
He whines about Sugar Bob burning the vandals down—we should be more respectful—and then proceeds to be a turd. At least Sugar Bob is sincere.
Hopefully ESPN will get a camera on Friesz—let’s see if he is even there after half. There is alot of booze to drink once you leave the building.
by ElPepeGrande on Nov 11, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Anyone hear Friesz on IST yesterday?
He sounded like a petty, immature kid. “I don’t even know the Boise State coaches’ name”
Yeah…right.
I heard him on IST
He mentioned his hatred has grown since the days he has played.
Wow, for 20 years a root of bitterness has taken hold and grown inside of him? I think his mentioning of the sledgehammer is just an excuse. His real frustration is the direction that both programs are heading and how irrelevant his program has become and how Boise has outgrown the game. This is my Dr. Phil impression of what is happening to that poor boy in a man’s body.
(I would like it to still be played; if Idaho would make some concessions on the game location)
Funny how John doesn’t mention any Vandal taunts that have happened in the rivalry and the Idaho coach whatever his name is hasn’t suspended anyone for passion Just grow up Johnny. Have fun with the rivalry and continue to teach your children to hate Boise State.
Clear Eyes. Full Hearts. Can't Lose!
C'mon John...
Get rid of all bitterness, rage, anger, harsh words, and slander, as well as all types of malicious behavior. Instead, be kind to each other, tenderhearted, forgiving one another…Ephesians 4:31-32
Make every effort to live in peace with all men … See to it that … no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. Hebrews 12:14-5
With edits.
nothingveryclever
by nothingveryclever on Nov 10, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Sorry nothing-we dont' like religion or politics here; give it a rest please. This is football for Christ's sake (dont take that literally).
And don’t go giving me another Bible quote; I don’t give a flying (BW) and I speak for many.
tvmunson
Mr t
Don’t be so serious. I obviously edited out the “religion.”
nothingveryclever
by nothingveryclever on Nov 10, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Take it easy, munson..
We’re perfectly capable of policing the comments and I don’t think nothingveryclever’s TIC quotes amount to proselytizing
by Drew Roberts on Nov 10, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
overreact much?
All I can do is just pour some tea for two
and speak my point of view, but it's not sane
by plainview88 on Nov 10, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Nov 11, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
He mentioned his hatred has grown since the days he has played.
Gee, I wonder why.
by Drew Roberts on Nov 10, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
a couple of things i'd like to comment on
Big plays may be Idaho’s best chance at winning this one
big plays may be idaho’s only chance at winning this one.
The nice thing is knowing that the Broncos do not need an A+ game to beat the Vandals.
personally, i think a solid c will do the job if we come out early and score a couple of times. the vandals might have the motivation but they don’t have the tools.
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
I beg to differ...
the vandals might have the motivation but they don’t have the tools.
Idaho has PLENTY of tools…




You were not put on this Earth to "get it", Mr. Burton.
by bronconationeast on Nov 10, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
3:16 whoever believeth in me shall have everlasting life and football wins?
mr. robb akey’s t-shirt under his suit?
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 10, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"one of the most complete games"- 3 turnovers lost, none gotten.
That said it was impressive. Right out of the box I like Coach Pete’s media ban; he’s letting the guys know this is important. Highlighting it this way will help focus, which the Broncos have displayed magnificently all year. I think key is depth, knowing there are very good guys behind you who want reps and will get them, possibly knocking you out of rotation. Farij Wright is illustrative of the principle. He was going to be left tackle at start of season. Got hurt; got displaced. Kellog stepped up; got hurt, Farij back in, looks good, now Kellog’s “best to you” ain’t-assuming he’s healthy and has simply been outplayed at mo’. Thus we see that even when the assignment is lost through no fault i e injury, there is a significant likelihood that one’s spot on the depth chart, onc etaken, will be hard to recover. Lecture over; pleas note my office hours will be changed I will be in Thursday but out Friday (ref Harrison Ford “Raiders of the Lost Ark” scene at end of his class)
tvmunson
KLee...not to pull this off track or slight you, but is the guest-post out yet from Hawaii?
and will a vandl also reciprocate posting?
To the right...my future brothers-in-law working hard on one of the trifecta of a Black & Gold birthright..."inebriation", yet before they acquired "nastiness" or "vandal-phrenia"
The 'University of Spoiled Children'.
I will be glad to see them go, even if it’s only for two years. I hope they have a ‘black out’, it worked wonders for Utah, right? Has any one heard if old Stinky is going to be there to try and waste his time…um, I mean rev up the candles? It won’t make any differance, the more old Idaho player/coaches there to see this pummeling the better.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
That would be Mark Schlereth.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Nov 10, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
don't compare university of idaho to the real "USC". idaho has no fallen that far. lol.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 10, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
not fallen that far.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 10, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Not everybody at USC is a rich kid
Trust me and sallie Mae
USC Law – better re’canize
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
by marktgarten on Nov 10, 2010 8:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I'm fully expecting
an ‘A’ game from BSU. I’ve said many times I think Pete really doesn’t like the ’stache. I remember how pissed off Pete was after the ’06 game when dUI showed up in the retro helmets. I think we hang 70+ points on the candals.
hate rivalry
i seriously cant wait for this game to get over so we can rid ourselves of this pointless rivalry the u of i hasnt been on the same level as us in quite a while and to be free of our boat anchor would be nice
i have never been to moscow idaho. can someone please tell me what it is like there?
landscape wise?
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 10, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
is it "real" beer or utah alcohol content beer?
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 10, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
also many hippies
Ha. Actually it’s very pretty up there and I have had good times there. But that’s probably because I know to avoid the frat-boy losers and similar types.
by hummerofdoom on Nov 10, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
Can you say "palouse"
google palouse and you’ll find out.
nothingveryclever
by nothingveryclever on Nov 10, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Moscow Idaho is a pastoral, lush, green.
It has a coastal climate; not as rainy as Seattle, but similar. They don’t need irrigation there. The campus is classic “Love Stroy” kind of place, on hills so there are plenty of “collegiate” perspectives even though its not huge from a building standpoint. I know Vandal bashers will run it down but the campus is classic, beatufiul old buildings and a few new ones mised in, the sandstone in the architecture enhances it the “old school” feel. Its on the Palouse; a lot of car commercials are filmed there because the loamy verdant rolling hills provde a very appealing backdrop. My wife and I notice that a lot. College town; Moscow enjoys close proximity to Washington State, 9 miles away on the highway. Reminds me of Corvallis (where my son attends) when its beautiful its REALLY beautiful, but you put up with a lot of gray days.
tvmunson
I'll will readily and heartily agree
the dUI campus is beautiful as is the Palouse. It’s not the flora, but the fauna that is ugly which sets up the classic yin/yang dichotomy, no?
by kcam on Nov 10, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Corvallis is in a rain forest.
They are nothing alike. Ask anyone who has ever hunted or hiked both areas. In Corvallis, you could be 5 ft from an elk and never see it. Blacktail deer grow big because they are hardly ever seen. The ground is a water logged swamp and the brush is impassable.
Moscow is at 2600 ft and has a winter. The hills are open and the draws are brushy. The surrounding mountains hold a fair amount of game.
If I was forced to pick one or the other to live… Moscow.
by Fan of the Blue on Nov 10, 2010 10:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I said "Reminds me"-obviously there sre sginificant differences as you note. But when its gray and you are on either
campus the similarity is striking. Ore State is bigger; the buildings, dimensions of the campus, even the trees and shrubs. but both have a similar “college” vibe, as does the adjoining town, both “college towns” in the classic sense. I have never hunted or hiked at either. But I’m sure there are many on the blog who, like me, have spent significant time on both campuses. “Nothing alike”-I respectfully disagree and submit my propostion to the OBNUG informed readership.
tvmunson
Thats like the lessor of 2 evils
Ones a moldy swamp filled with human debrie in a state of the people republic, while the other is north of Lewiston up a pass in the middle of now where, a one road town full of idiot liberal college idiots!
The only reason why you’d pick moscow is because it’s in Idaho not in the peoples republic.,
by Darth Prophet on Nov 12, 2010 8:11 AM PST up reply actions
Pounding them on a yearly basis is a joyous thing.
It will never shut those clowns up, but it is fun to watch the humiliation.
"Boise State football is now a Fargo winter. You know what's coming, and that information does you no good whatsoever". Matt James / The Fresno Bee
by blue4areason on Nov 10, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
It's been fun to watch the transformation from the mid-80a Vandals streak. Funny how academics is suddenly prominent
as though its some sort of Mecca. As if…
tvmunson
Your Idaho Injury Report missed JoJo Dickson
Who is done for the year with a broken leg/ankle. He was the senior leader of that defense, and his absence in the middle most likely directly lead to Nevada hanging 800+ yards on them.
This game shouldn’t be close.
I have attended every home Boise State football game since 1992.
Story has it
Enderlie has been wearing his helmet sideways with blue tape across the earhole to practice under real game conditions.
Nobility was taken at the tip of a sword.
Maybe now at the blunt of a sledge hammer!
by Dididodat on Nov 10, 2010 10:51 AM PST reply actions 6 recs
yea but we still have blue #'s I think
Nobility was taken at the tip of a sword.
Maybe now at the blunt of a sledge hammer!
by Dididodat on Nov 10, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
truly meant it
and this weeks was a very fun read.
Nobility was taken at the tip of a sword.
Maybe now at the blunt of a sledge hammer!
by Dididodat on Nov 10, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Enderlie has been wearing his helmet
on field trips to the mall.
by ElPepeGrande on Nov 11, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Enderlie has been wearing his helmet
on field trips to the mall.
by ElPepeGrande on Nov 11, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Every time I program my GPS
Every time I program my GPS for the Kibbie dome I wind up at the Latah countly landfill.
I expect Coach Akey to throw his whole book of trick plays at BSU in the first half. Also allot of their first offensive series will contain plays that will be absolutely wild. Look for the hook & ladder!
The last ime in the dome the bronco offense spread every one out. If the Vandals blitzed we had wide open receivers, if they sat back they let Avery pick the open lanes.
My biggest concern is a cheap shot that sidelines one of BSU starters for the rest of the season. There were a few of those last year in Boise.
you need a gps to find the kibbee dome?
i can see that thing from miles away. it is placed well – that hill is always drenched in sunshine and makes the quonset hut look amazing against the fall colors. north idaho is the de-facto most beautiful place on earth, IMO, it’s just too bad that the actions of a few drunk assholes and a campus which exacerbates the issue by not holding them accountable for their behavior totally ruins the experience.
"Or, if boarding the bus is just too difficult for an Establishmentarian to do, get your snob school to schedule the Broncos home-and-home. Any takers?" - Pat Forde
by reflectivity on Nov 10, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Cheap shot
If I remember correctly, in the 1998 game in Bronco Stadium, a Vandal lineman clipped one of the Bronco linebackers (may have been Justin Brown) away from the play. He then got up an taunted Brown, who lay there with a broken leg. Disgusting to say the least.
ah, I knew Justin a little bit
Worked on a class project or two with him in accounting class. Post-career-ending-leg-injury of course.
by hummerofdoom on Nov 11, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
I am getting really giddy for this game,
like a school girl! This will be a fun game for Bronco fans to watch. There will be a complete beat down in the Kibbie Dome!
http://broncochase.blogspot.com/
Apparently the UI fans don't save it just for football.
Thier sliminess also spills over to Cross Country of all things. See BSU C.C. coach remrimanded for publicly critizing Idaho fans. LMAO!!
seriously
on a serious note, this summer during rush, a kid from burley died from alcohol poisoning. I realize that this happens on campuses across the country, just curious if anyone knows what if anything happened to the fraternity or to U of I.
(this is not an attempt at a “low blow” for Idaho)

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