Boise State recruiting: When will Grant Hedrick start at QB for the Broncos?
by Kevan Lee on Jan 25, 2010 8:01 AM PST
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Boise State's QB tradition looks to be in good hands with Central HS QB Grant Hedrick. The Oregon 4A Player of the Year is strong-armed, confident, and fluid in the pocket. And he is stuck behind a group of BSU quarterbacks that are as talented and motivated as Hedrick is.
When might Hedrick see the field for the Broncos? Is he Kellen Moore's heir apparent? Catch video of Hedrick after the jump, and weigh in on when we might see Hedrick take the field for the Broncos.
Today begins a series on Boise State's 2010 recruiting class, highlighting one player each day until Signing Day on February 3. Thank goodness Boise State's recruiting class is only seven players deep. I procrastinated on this pretty bad.
| Scout.com | Rivals.com | ESPN | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Player | School | Height | Weight | 40 | Stars | Pos. Rank | Stars | Rival Rank | Grade | Pos. Rank | Reviewed |
| QB Grant Hedrick | Central HS, Oregon | 6-1 | 180 | *** | 56 | *** | 5.7 | 67 | 168 | Today | |
| WR Matt Miller | Capital HS, Montana | 6-4 | 210 | 4.5 | *** | 89 | *** | 5.7 | 76 | 108 | Tomorrow |
| DE Tyrone Crawford | Bakersfield JC, CA | 6-4 | 258 | *** | JC | **** | 5.8 | n/a | n/a | Wednesday | |
| TE Kyle Sosnowski | Capital HS, Idaho | 6-3 | 215 | 4.78 | ** | 119 | ** | 5.4 | 40 | n/a | Thursday |
| DB Bryan Douglas | Nathaniel Narbonne HS, CA | 5-11 | 170 | 4.4 | *** | 59 | *** | 5.5 | 73 | 98 | Friday |
| DE Tyler Horn | Mountain View HS, Idaho | 6-4 | 225 | ** | NR | *** | 5.5 | 40 | n/a | Monday | |
| WR Troy Ware | Vista HS, CA | 6-2 | 175 | 4.55 | ** | 144 | *** | 5.6 | 76 | 120 | Tuesday |
Video highlights of Grant Hedrick
High school career
Hedrick put the wraps on one of the best QB careers in Oregon high school football, being named Oregon's 4A offensive player of the year and setting state records left and right. See if any of this sounds familiar:
- State record for most combined yards: 11,230
- State record for most combined TDs: 145
- A senior year where he threw for 2,500 yards, 34 TDs, and only one INT
- Coached by his dad
- Shares texts with Case Keenum
OK, so I made that last one up. He shares texts with Jake Locker.
Hedrick's high school career was the stuff of legend, which is eerily similar to the career of Kellen Moore. Does this mean that we will soon be hearing about standout high school WR Girby Hedrick? One can dream.
Read into this what you will: Coach Pete invited Hedrick to graduate high school early and join the team for spring practice, something that BSU stars like George Iloka have done in the past. Hedrick declined. He wanted to stay in school and get the full high school experience, which I can only imagine is a much better experience when you're a star quarterback jock instead of the dorky kid who started his own school newspaper. Oh, if only Disney's High School Musical could have been made 10 years ago.
Offers
Boise State
Interest
Portland State, Oregon State, Idaho, Washington State
Scouting Report
The most common knock on Hedrick is his size, which is a little knocking Stuart Scott's catchphrases because he has 20/180 vision. Bronco quarterbacks have heard the size criticism before, and if a couple inches and a few pounds keep potentially All-American QBs away from BCS schools and endear them to Boise, then I will gladly look the other way when it comes to size discrimination.
Size aside, here is some ESPN knowledge on what Hedrick does well and what he could improve:
He is a deceptively quick athlete with terrific feet. Works from under center and out of the shotgun and gets set quickly. He is a poised and calm in his methods, yet shows some fire to his personality and is very competitive. He is very good ball handler on drops, play-pass and bootlegs. Carries the ball comfortably at chest level, protects ball with his off hand when being rush and has been well coached on footwork and ball handling fundamentals. Release and arm strength are both good. Ball pops off his hand with very good zip to short and intermediate areas and he displays enough arm strength to stretch the ball vertically when on time. Gets nice RPM's on the ball and throws the ball with good pocket presence, timing and confidence.
While Hedrick shows flashes, he can also be risky because of his confidence. Tends to move around when he does not need to and can scramble himself into trouble. Can look very sharp as a passer in terms of accuracy, but will also spray the ball around a bit too.
Risky due to overconfidence? Why, he's Jared Zabransky! Happy feet in the pocket? Sounds like another Taylor Tharp!
Hedrick is more of a mobile threat than what Boise State has had with Moore and Tharp in recent years. He is more of a Mikey Tamburo mover, which could add an exciting element to the Boise State offense, and it could also get him in trouble if he relies too much on his legs.
The only other criticisms of Hedrick were that he might be more comfortable in the shotgun rather than under center (Boise State runs plenty of shotgun offense, so that shouldn't be an issue) and he could stand to gain a few pounds (BSU strength coach Tim Socha knows a guy at Applebee's). Hedrick has all the tools necessary to excel in the Boise State program.
Hair by Eli Manning. (via vmedia.rivals.com)
Player Mark Johnson will most likely confuse him for
When will Grant Hedrick contribute to the Boise State offense?
The Broncos have the nation's best quarterback under center for the next two years with Moore. They have a highly touted redshirt freshman who was being talked about with Hedrick-type reverence last year in Joe Southwick. Might the Hedrick Era be a Tharp-esque one-year run?
Here is a look at the current QB roster for the next five years:
- 2010: Kellen Moore (Jr.), Michael Coughlin (Sr.), Joe Southwick (rFr.), Mikey Tamburo* (rFr.), Grant Hedrick (redshirt)
- 2011: Kellen Moore (Sr.), Joe Southwick (So.), Mikey Tamburo (So.), Grant Hedrick (rFr.)
- 2012: Joe Southwick (Jr.), Mikey Tamburo (Jr.), Grant Hedrick (So.)
- 2013: Joe Southwick (Sr.), Mikey Tamburo (Sr.), Grant Hedrick (Jr.)
- 2014: Grant Hedrick (Sr.)
*Tamburo missed the entire season with an ACL tear. If he gets a medical redshirt, there is a possibility he could get a sixth year of eligibility. Let's assume he does not since those situations are rare and I don't feel like researching the likelihood of it happening.
If the QB depth chart stays the way it is, Hedrick could be out of luck until the 2014 season.
But I have a theory: When Kellen Moore ends his career after 2011, Boise State could very well be in position for an open QB competition among Southwick, Tamburo, and Hedrick for the starting spot in 2012. Think about it. Southwick and Tamburo were neck-and-neck in fall practice, and Hedrick is one of the most prolific QBs in Oregon high school history. Could there be a three-man race to replace Moore?
If so, Hedrick could have a great opportunity because of his two years spent in the program, learning from Moore and others. If he wins the job, the Broncos would have him as a three-year starter, which might be preferred considering the success of players like Dinwiddie and Moore.
How do you think Hedrick's Boise State career will play out? Think he'll see the field in 2012 or will he wait until 2014? Southwick or Hedrick: Who is the better quarterback in two years?
Your turn
When do you think Hedrick will see the field for the Broncos? Excited about his high school highlights? Which BSU QB do you think he most resembles? Share your thoughts in the comments.
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having no knowledge of how good southwick is...
i’m going to predict hedrick gets the start. and i’m only basing this on boise state’s propensity for multi-year starters (tharpe notwithstanding). but i guess we shall see. i would almost prefer them NOT to sign another qb considering the situation and focus on another need.
this kind of reminds me of a lomax situation. poor guy was supposed to be the second coming of awesome and then… ppfttttt either he didn’t step up or bsu ran into an IJ situation (a starter relegated to back up status simply because better athletes signed up with BSU). i’m assuming the latter.
the odds of me being wrong with my prediction are pretty high. in fact, i would probably bet against myself. but mark this down: hedrick gets the start over southwick.
Grindhouse
Excellent post!
But please, no more high school musical video’s.
by BSUTHROWBALLFOREVER on Jan 25, 2010 8:38 AM PST reply actions
Good chance he starts as a redshirt sophomore...
It it obviously too early to know if Southwick or Hedrick will have an edge after Kellen’s reign ends. Both players will develop considerably over the next two years.
Unfortunately for Tamburo, losing this year to injury probably set him back a bit – although I do look for him to play a significant niche role, a la Tanyon Bissell, at some point.
What I like about Hedrick is that he is a pocket-passer that can run. From what I have seen a lot of his running was by design and not a result of scrambling. Most of all, I like that he is a coaches kid and is Kellen lite when it comes to being a football junkie.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
by MKingery on Jan 25, 2010 8:55 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
do you feel that
his athleticism makes up for having less football IQ? seems to be the case with some qbs.
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
Funny, but at times I almost wish that Boise State would recruit a real dud of a QB every three or four years just so the really good QBs can have more time to start. Tamburo could have started at San Jose State last year as a true freshman. At Boise State, he’ll be lucky to see the field at the rate he’s going.
Boise State may never recruit the Kaepernick-Borel-type QB, but I am giddy with excitement over how the team could use a modest runner like Hedrick. Does he seem more mobile than Zabransky? Pretty similar, I think.
"Islanders fan, huh? Team of the future, I'd say." - Roger Johnson
I'm waiting for when they start recruiting Girby!
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
5 Intern Bucks...
…for the first person to explain this whole “redshirt” thing to me. I have no clue what it means, except that I nod like I do if someone mentions it to me.
No points if you link to a Wiki article. That would make me look lazy and stoopid.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Redshirting is when a player takes a year off without losing any eligibility. Typically it happens with incoming freshman who do not play on the team their first year. If they do not see the field, then they still have four years of eligibility left. If they play even one snap (or kickoff), then they burn their redshirt.
D.J. Harper played as a true freshman, so his injury-shortened 2009 could be considered a redshirt season (if the NCAA approves).
How’s that?
"Islanders fan, huh? Team of the future, I'd say." - Roger Johnson
Ok.
But then, why did they refer to Moore as a “redshirt freshman” last year when he was clearly playing every snap?
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
edit: “Offensive snap”
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
They were denoting that he had already redshirted 1 year, versus being a true freshman. If the media refers to a player as a redshirt sophomore in Fall, that player is beginning his 2nd year of playing live action games, but is beginning his 3rd year at the school (academically a junior).
Obviously you're not a golfer...
Another Example
Jamar Taylor played in 2008 as a “True Freshman.”
He sat out all of 2009 due to injury. Therefore, 2009 was his redshirt year.
In 2010, Jamar Taylor will be denoted as a “Redshirt Sophomore” (RSo.)
If Taylor had played in 2009, he would have been simply a Sophomore, or True Sophomore.
Clear as mud.
Obviously you're not a golfer...
another try to explain redshirting...
A player gets five years to play four years—with a scholarship for all five years. Usually, a player will finish HS, and join the team for Fall practice. They don’t play in games, but are a member of the team through that first season—they often are the scout team and run the other team’s plays for the starters.
It allows the younger guys to go to class for a year, eat and lift to get stronger, and learn the system without actually playing.
In some cases, a player will play their first year. In this case, they still get five years to play four—-so if they get hurt early in a season, they can still use the reshirt year.
Even more rare—-if a player gets hurt in two seasons (early in the year so that they miss most of the season) they can petition the NCAA for a sixth-year—-this is the Medical redshirt that Kevan mentions.
The last option—the grayshirt year.
In this case, the player joins the school at Christmas (sits at home for the FB season), goes through Spring ball as a Greyshirt, and then goes through Fall and Spring ball as a redshirt. In this example, the player is on the team for 18 months before being eligible to play—particularly valuable for linemen who need to gain weight—As Daryn Colledge did. note—greyshirt years do not come with scholarships.
For this years SRs—Brockel finished two degrees in four and a half years since he redshirted. Wilson played immediately and did not redshirt. They graduated the same year, but were recruited in different years.
Richie would have been a redshirt freshmen—as Kellen was.
Kyle was a true freshmen.
by ElPepeGrande on Jan 25, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
At the risk of getting even more confusing...
… there is also the ability to “greenshirt” where a player graduates high school early and enrolls in college for the spring semester in order to get a jump on spring drills to prepare for the fall. I believe this is what Iloka did before his freshman season.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
i'm pretty sure that
you’re referring to a grey shirt.
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
What's the ratio of an Intern Buck to a Stanley Nickel?
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by OBNUG Intern on Jan 25, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
1 Intern Buck = 25 Schrute Bucks = 1,000 Stanley Nickels
1,000,000 Craig James Dollars = 1 House for sale in Lubbock
Obviously you're not a golfer...
by ty_ol on Jan 25, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Nice!
Now what is the inflation rate?
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by OBNUG Intern on Jan 25, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
The inflation rate is very high.
They say it will soon swell to the size of Mark May’s head.
Obviously you're not a golfer...
by ty_ol on Jan 25, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Can that inflation rate even be computed?
We might need a Cray super computer for this one
All we can do is win the games on our schedule
by givemesomemoore on Jan 27, 2010 4:35 AM PST up reply actions
I may just be making this up
But isn’t the way people get away with redshirting is by declaring they will need 5 years to finish their degree? Ive always thought, and I have no idea where I picked this up… that tying it into academics is the way the NCAA lets it pass w/out any problems??
Old enough to know better, too young to care.
Eligibility not tied to their degree...
Since most football players redshirt, their academic advisor creates a plan to graduate in 4 1/2 or 5 years. This lessens the school load and matches their degree seeking time with their playing eligibility. Even if they obtain their degree early, if they remain enrolled, they are eligible to play 4 of 5 seasons.
I believe there is also a six-year (minus religious missions) time frame of eligibility (in any sport) from the time a student first enrolls in school. If an athlete completes their eligibility in one sport (football) they may be able to complete another season in a second sport if the six year period hasn’t expired. Since the six year clock does not start until enrollment, it is not uncommon for an athlete to play professional baseball out of high school, only to later enroll in college as a freshman in their mid-20’s to play football.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
I should've been a football player.
It’s taking me 17 years to get my B.A.
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
Because I know Louqe, you'll have to take my word for it.
But if Loque played football he would have to have been a tightend. He doesn’t have the physique to be a lineman, he doesn’t have the arm to be a QB, he doesn’t have the speed to be a receiver or D back. But he is a big, bruising, power type, picture perfect tightend. He would make Ritchie Brockel shiver! He would have gone to Boise State too, even though he would have been recruited by all the PAC 10 and SEC schools!
Now that you think about it, Loque, had you decided to play football, instead of pursue your education and profession (He’s going to be a nuclear scientist), you could probably be starting in the NFL right now!
Oh what could have been…
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by OBNUG Intern on Jan 25, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
I had daydreams.
I had thought of being a 31 year old kicker in college, but I don’t think they would let that pass — but then again, I do attend Idaho State. They need anybody (1-10 last season.. Hey, we won against Portland State!).
"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson
I interrupt the redshirt discussion to say....
If you think Hedrick is a shoe-in to start over Southwick, then you haven’t done enough research on the 2009 QB recruiting class. Watch video of Hedrick, Southwick, and Tamburo. All three of them are smart, quick, and accomplished. Southwick has shown us already what he can do, and he can also burn defenders with his speed. I’ve heard that Southwick isn’t exactly as quick as Tamburo, but watch his tape and tell me if speed is a weakness for him.
I’m really addicted to having Kellen Moore run the show, and I can’t imagine him ever leaving. I hope that when he graduates, Tom Moore becomes our assistant coach. That would almost heal me.
by pretendhuman on Jan 25, 2010 5:07 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I mean, people who saw the scrimmage actually thought Southwick could start over Kellen...
But I took them out…
by pretendhuman on Jan 25, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
i put hedrick over southwick
but it’s not based on any “research”. more conjecture. like i said, we’ll see.
Dr. William Block: You gotta lose the arm, Joe.
Joe: Lose the arm? What do you mean, lose the arm? My arm?
I think that the hype about Southwick can be easily forgotten when you add a QB like Hedrick, so thanks for reminding everyone that Southwick is no slouch. If it does come down to a QB competition in 2012, I think Boise State will have lots of good QBs to choose from and a much better crop than they had in 2008’s QB race.
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