One Bronco Nation Under God: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
New Blog: Anonymous Eagle covering Marquette!

Boise State beats Fresno State 51-34 in WAC shootout

The Broncos and Bulldogs combined for big plays galore, but it was Boise State who came up with the biggest. A 67-yard Jeremy Avery TD catch sealed it, and a fumble recovery in the end zone by Titus Young proved to be huge.

Talk about your feelings on the game and what you think went right and wrong for BSU. (Updated: 11:34pm 9/18)

Star-divide

What. Was. That?!

I thought Boise State was good on defense. I thought Fresno State rolled over in big games against conference opponents. I thought there was some sort of cap on 60-yard TD runs.

What a wild, crazy, stressful, disappointing, electrifying, nerve-wracking, awesome, amazing game to watch. This one could have Bronco fans talking for weeks. I can't wait to hear what everyone has to say about this. Here are some of my initial impressions.

It's Titus Young's world and we're just kicking off to it

Titus Young surprised me tonight by doing something I have yet to seen him really do: impact a game without big receiving stats. Young finished the game with three catches for 29 yards and a seven-yard score in the second quarter. But that wasn't the story.

Didn't he look great returning kickoffs? His 77-yard return after Fresno kicked a second quarter field goal set up the Broncos in great position to take the three-TD lead. And his kickoff return TD to start the second half was incredible, too (a dubious holding penalty on Chuck Hayes negated it, but since when is falling on a guy considered holding?).

And then there was the hustle play to recovery Avery's fumble in the end zone. How huge was that? I wonder if it would have been a play that Young made last year. His maturity really impressed me tonight, especially on that TD recovery, but also on the way that he carried himself and didn't get caught up in the trash talking and emotion.

Young was very impressive.

(Note: Shhh, I know he fumbled in the first quarter. Let's not talk about that right now.)

What is D.J. Harper's status?

Harper went down awkwardly in the third quarter after a big hit down near the Fresno goalline. BSU players were cramping all night, but this was no cramp from Harper. It looked serious, like a knee injury, and he did not return the rest of the game.

Interesting enough, prior to Harper's injury, Jeremy Avery seemed to be the Broncos' less effective back. Harper had come in and looked very impressive, racking up 107 yards on 12 carries and a 60-yard TD. Would we have seen very much of Avery again this game? It's hard to tell.

More importantly, though, what is the final word on Harper? The Broncos are not deep enough at running back to absorb a loss like Harper's, at least not without getting creative. If he misses an extended period of time, will it produce a need for Doug Martin to head back into the backfield?

D.J. who? Jeremy Avery does not like the comparisons to Ian Johnson, thankyouverymuch

Just when the Broncos' running back position seemed sunk, Avery responded with two absolutely huge plays. First, his 67-yard screen pass TD was the right call at the right time, as it caught the Fresno defense out of position and put Avery in a position to put his speed to use. Then, on the next Bronco possession, he broke a 69-yard gainer down to the Fresno 15, leading to the game-icing field goal. Two huge plays after Harper left the game.

Avery's final stats of the night: 11 carries, 186 yards, 16.9 average; 5 catches, 83 yards, 1 TD. Funny enough, it seemed like more.

Billy Winn asserts himself as the best defensive lineman in the WAC, possibly the West

You can't block Billy Winn, you can only hope to run as far away from him as possible. Fresno State learned this the hard way, as Winn repeatedly blew up plays in the backfield and harrassed QB Ryan Colburn.

Tonight, more so than the previous two games and even all of fall camp, Billy Winn was clearly the Broncos' best defensive lineman. It wasn't even close. Winterswyk wasn't better. Baker wasn't better. It was Winn by a landslide. His combination of size, strength, and agility makes him a difficult assignment for a single offensive lineman. Fresno had to double him to hope to get any traction at the line of scrimmage. Best of all, Winn makes the players around him better, too. Many players on the line had some good plays, but it was Winn who showed up most often and made the biggest impact.

Offensive line, circa 2008

The Broncos pulled the first O-line switch of the season before the game with Garrett Pendergast replacing Michael Ames at right tackle. But that didn't really fix anything, now, did it?

Matt Slater was absolutely abused by Chris Carter in the first half. The push by the Fresno defensive line was solid for the majority of the game. Kellen Moore never looked comfortable in the pocket. The offense was sputtering in large part due to the offensive line.

Fortunately, things improved in the second half. The play of Nate Potter, in place of Slater, helped, and Bryan Harsin mixed up the playcalling enough to buy Moore some time outside the pocket and neutralize Fresno's aggressive defense with misdirection and timing plays. The Bronco offense never looked comfortable tonight, except when it was breaking off big runs. Huge, gaping holes were the exception, not the norm. Credit Fresno's defense for owning the line of scrimmage.

Who is Boise State's quarterback, and what has he done with Kellen Moore?

Obviously, the line was not at its best, but neither was Moore. Throwing off his back foot? Who does he think he is? Tom Brandstater? Moore's performance was very un-Moore-like, even though he finished the game 18-for-26 for three TDs. Numbers never lie, but these ones are exaggerating just a little. Most of Moore's completions were screens, flares, or short passes - high percentage throws, basically. His deep passes? Let's not even go there. That is a conversation for a different 1,000-word blog post.

Am I alone in thinking Moore didn't look like himself? I wonder how much of Moore's greatness is due to his having time to operate. Fresno's defense did a good job keeping him from typical Moore perfection. In a sense, it was fitting, seeing that the game included a tribute to the late Dan Brown.

Winston Venable makes a case for never coming off the field

I need more Winston Venable in my life. Boise State's nickelbacker made perhaps the defense's two biggest plays of the night: the opening drive pick-six, and the penultimate drive QB hit on fourth down.

Let's talk about that QB hit, shall we? My heart nearly leaped out of my chest when I saw it live, and then every subsequent replay, I beamed a little brighter. Seeing Venable go airborne to take down Ryan Colburn was awesome. It was inspiring. I could watch it a million times and never even notice Joe Tessitore ruining it by talking.

(Note: This is the point in my babbling that Fresno fans complain it should have been a spearing penalty.)

One thousand fist pumps to you, Winston Venable.

Now onto the matter of Venable's playing time. Did it not seem to anyone else like Venable was absent for large stretches of the game, including Fresno State's three long TD runs? I know that the Broncos rotate nickelbackers regularly, but wouldn't you agree that Venable's performance tonight placed him in an echelon along with Kyle Wilson, Jeron Johnson, and others? Substituting is fine and all, but that kid can play. He should stay on the field in games like this.

The Jeron Johnson three-ring tackling circus

To quote myself from earlier in this post, "What. Was That?!" Johnson whiffed on two, if not all three of Ryan Mathews' long TD runs. What's worse is that he was the last man in on all three plays, so his missed tackle sent Mathews off to the races.

You'll notice that each time Mathews broke free, it was to the short side of the field (Johnson's side) and there was no one around beyond five yards past the line of scrimmage. Johnson had to make the tackles on those plays and he just plain didn't.

While we're on the topic of missed assignments, what is everyone's take on Jason Robinson? He was on the field for a couple of Fresno's big plays, which tells me that coaches think highly enough of him to give him good playing time. I didn't see anything from Robinson that made me think he deserved it. In fact, juding from the personnel on the field, it appeared that Robinson was taking time at one of the safety positions, instead of his normal nickelbacker role, and it seemed like he was taking the place of Iloka.

Fact: The Boise State defense looked tons better with Iloka on the field. He is quicker to the ball and makes solid tackles. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with Robinson or not, but I thought I'd point it out.

Kyle Brotzman is not on the field for the biggest kick of the game

Guess who got all the fourth quarter kicking duties? "Mr. Clutch" Jimmy Pavel. Brotzman did not see the field in the fourth quarter, leaving Pavel in charge of kickoffs and field goals. And boy, did he have a big field goal.

It was the final points of the game, and it was a relative gimme, but it was still huge. Pavel's 24-yard field goal gave the Broncos a three-score lead with under four minutes left (not that many of the Fresno fans saw it; they were headed to the parking lot a couple minutes before). Miss it, and Fresno has hope. Make it, and the game is out of reach.

Where was Brotzman? Injured, ineffective, or something else? Pavel did his job well when he was in there, including a big hit on kickoff coverage. This will be something to watch this week.

Curious play-calling from Fresno State sure helps

During the heat of the scoring, Fresno State drove down to the Bronco 10-yard line, trailing 34-24 with five minutes left in the third. And what did the Bulldogs do? Incomplete, incomplete, incomplete, field goal. Thank you, Pat Hill.

In the fourth, with the Bulldogs driving and trailing 48-34 with seven minutes left, Fresno had the ball on Boise State's 26-yard line with a 1st and 10 and proceeded to gain two yards on their next four plays, resulting in a turnover on downs. Ryan Mathews touched the ball zero times.

Those two series were huge, and none of them involved Ryan Mathews running the ball. Have fun answering those questions in the press conference, Pat Hill.

Random Thoughts

  • If I never see another flare pass to Mitch Burroughs, it will be too soon.
  • Do you think Kellen Moore saw Ryan Colburn's Hail Mary long passes working and thought he'd try the same?
  • What's your take on Colburn? I didn't see him throw a good pass all night. He threw plenty of completions, but none of them were accurate or in stride. None. Not a single one. It is a miracle he didn't have more than two INTs.
  • What will this do to Boise State in the polls? I'm not even going there yet.
  • Fresno was scary pumped there for awhile. I thought we were going to have college football's first krunk dance off after a second quarter Boise State three-and-out.
  • That Austin Pettis can block. Oh, and he can catch, too.
  • Congratulations, Ryan Mathews. You've just entered a common-law marriage with Graham Watson, whether you wanted to or not.
  • What's this Chick-fil-a I keep hearing so much about?
  • Jeremy Avery: plays of 74, 67, and 69 yards. Ryan Mathews: plays of 60, 69, and 68. Fortunately, Avery's supporting cast was better tonight.
  • Great showing by Fresno State. They have nothing to be ashamed of. They gave the Broncos more of a fight than many Boise State fans expected, and my hat is off to them.
  • No 3-3-5 until late in the fourth quarter? Then why did I waste so many words on it last week?
  • Angry Coach Pete is back.

Share your thoughts in the comments.

Poll
Who was Boise State's player of the game?
Titus Young
123 votes
Jeremy Avery
55 votes
Winston Venable
41 votes
Billy Winn
18 votes

237 votes | Poll has closed

0 recs  |  Comment 81 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

I'm constipated...

from having that ol’ butt-pucker going all game long. :(

I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!

by BSUFlyboy on Sep 18, 2009 9:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This was an old school Boise State win and not in a good way

Unfortunately I think this will be portrayed as the WAC being the WAC and Boise State’s defense not being respected

by Nick Kroes on Sep 18, 2009 9:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

This game just set the WAC back 10 years

by J-Stat on Sep 18, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Had to vote for Titus

cuz of that fumble grab in the back of the endzone. That spelled the beginning of the end IMO.

I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!

by BSUFlyboy on Sep 18, 2009 9:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I voted Avery but...

I could have easily voted for Titus.

Watch out BCS...one day Boise State will be National Champs.

by Dr. Jrig on Sep 18, 2009 9:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Where was the sideline reporter?

I want an update on DJ Harper!

Watch out BCS...one day Boise State will be National Champs.

by Dr. Jrig on Sep 18, 2009 9:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Where’s David Augusto when you need him?

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 18, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

and can we get a game without Tessitore and Gilmore for a change.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Sep 18, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

As much as they do Boise State games, you would think they would know the team a little better.

Watch out BCS...one day Boise State will be National Champs.

by Dr. Jrig on Sep 18, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was hilarious when they were talking about Kellen Moore’s ‘scrambling ability’.

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 18, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually agree with them.

Last year? Not so much. But Moore seems FAR more comfortable outside the pocket than in it… particularly for this game. His O-line owes him BIG time.

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 19, 2009 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although Kellen has improved from last year, I still would not call him a good scrambler. I think he is just really smart. He know when and where to move in the pocket, and when he rolls out he does a good job looking down field. The O-line did not give him good protection yesterday, plus the heat/humidity, and you get a Kellen Moore who looks uncomfortable in the pocket, and is not his usual perfect self.

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 19, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

eeesh

i’ll take the win, but this is going to hurt our perception. and as we all know, perception is 95% of the BCS.

on the plus side, the offense looked good in the 2nd half, once they started to let Moore do a little more. on the negative, our defense needs to work on tackling in the worst way. bad tackling is what led to all those runs/yards. if they make a couple of sure tackles, this game is a blowout.

i’m sure we’ll see a bit of a different team next week.

Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34

by howiestheman on Sep 18, 2009 9:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well I hope

that next week we seriously stomp the snot outta the opponent. We gotta get our perception raised. And y’all know how the BCS loves butt stompin scores.

I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!

by BSUFlyboy on Sep 18, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be there

We’re making the 5 hour drive to hopefully see BGSU get stomped. I don’t think my colon can handle another thriller.

KY Stands for Kentucky, for crying out loud.

by KYBronco on Sep 18, 2009 9:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Re: eeesh

That’d be like us saying IF Marvin Haynes makes the interception Fresno State wins.
Or, IF Boise doesn’t get the interceptions and kick returns it would have been a blowout in Fresno State’s favor.

Check out the latest Fresno State chatter on the Bulldog Bounce blog at http://www.BulldogBounce.blogspot.com.

by FSDogs1 on Sep 20, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like the Fresno surprise was the beginning of many for the weekend.

Funny how the upset/surprise is the very reason why I love college football … unless it happens to my team.

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 20, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any winning at Fresno is good, but this was heart wrenching.

At least now we can put all that naming the defense nonsense behind us. They looked disciplined and dominate in the first quarter and then give up 3 big home runs.

It’s crazy but I like a lot of what Jason Robinson added to the defense tonight. Jeron Johnson tends to be too aggressive, goes for big hits and doesn’t wrap up or take great angles.

It was nice to see our offense get on track, even if it was solely done by getting a RB on the edge. Kellen looked a little off on passes that were down field. Seems like they rarely threw across the middle. It was nice to see them finally throw a jump ball to Pettis inside the red zone.

I would like to hear the explanation of having Pavel on for the final field goal – that can’t do much for Brotzman’s confidence moving forward.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Sep 18, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

RE: Brotzman

I think it was more of resting him than a confidence issue. After all, look at all those PATs, KO’s, 2 FG’s and punts. Reminds me of when Tyler Jones was still here. You could tell on the high scoring games that his leg would get tired.

I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!

by BSUFlyboy on Sep 18, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it was more than that ...

… Brotzman should have been on the field for that final FG. You don’t trust that kick to a backup unless you have to. I’m not sure what is up, but I’d be surprised if it was just to rest Brotzman. It’s cool if you disagree. I’m wrong a lot.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The humidity got to him...

From what I’ve heard from a friend of mine who is the backup punter, Brotzman was cramping up big time toward the end of the game. That’s why Pavel came in — because they were more afraid of an ill-timed cramp than an untested kicker.

by mrefficiency on Sep 20, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I felt the opposite way about Robinson

… as you can read from the story, I thought he was late on a lot of the plays that he was in. I’ll have to go back and watch the game again to see what position he was playing. Do you think he was in Jeron Johnson’s spot? I think Iloka balances Johnson well, too.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As far as I can tell

Iloka was out on the first 3 of the 4 big running plays (the first being the 30-ish yard scamper by their 2nd back).

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 19, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec'd

No joke! Where was the middle all night?

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 19, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better Runningback

Checked the stats. Avery is the best running back in the game. Yes, less yards than superman… I mean Mathews. But ypc and overall effectiveness (read: first downs/receiving/blocking) Avery is the man.
Give Colburn his props. Bad QB, but tough player and leader.
For two defenses that like to be tough against the run, they sure blew it!
Just to be sure, it isn’t 2003, right?

KY Stands for Kentucky, for crying out loud.

by KYBronco on Sep 18, 2009 9:55 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

After listening to Tessitore and Gilmore ...

who’s the better running back? Avery or Mathews? That one’s probably obvious.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not really that disappointed with that game

I think that was a good win in a hostile environment. The defense is still averaging 14 points per game. The offense put up some good points with few mistakes. It was frustrating to see those big runs, but that can be dealt with. At least one of those should have come back on missed holding call. Still early in the season and the WAC is always looking to knock off Boise State and we will see every teams best effort against BSU. I really enjoyed that game!

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Holding (no)calls

Not sure of the hold you are referring to on one of Mathews’ runs (I’d have to look back at the film again because I didn’t notice it on first review or live at the game) but I did notice a giant hold on the first big kick return by Boise State, a hold where your o-lineman tackled Kyle Knox from behind when he broke free through the line on a blitz and a hold on Harper’s TD run.

So don’t act like Boise got screwed.

Check out the latest Fresno State chatter on the Bulldog Bounce blog at http://www.BulldogBounce.blogspot.com.

by FSDogs1 on Sep 20, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I'm not from Eugene

No complaints, just observations. It was a good game and I really can’t see how “Boise got screwed”in that game.

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 20, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

And Venable’s new nickname is SUPERMAN!

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Either that or WATERBOY!

With the way he just completely flew over that guy on the hit.

by forum8usa on Sep 18, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd you both

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

THAT RIIIGHT!!!

I could almost hear the “eeeeeEEEEEEEeeee” as he blasted the QB!

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 19, 2009 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN announcers

Isn’t that the hit the ESPN crew was calling dirty?

Check out the latest Fresno State chatter on the Bulldog Bounce blog at http://www.BulldogBounce.blogspot.com.

by FSDogs1 on Sep 20, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great

Now we are going to hear about this hit for the next year…

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 20, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

they were mistaken

by Nick Kroes on Sep 20, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny

Isn’t it funny how earlier in the week, a lot of people were ready to write off Avery? Man, Avery and Harper must really like running on that grass in Fresno. 100+ yard running games for both guys, both times they’ve played there.

Watch out BCS...one day Boise State will be National Champs.

by Dr. Jrig on Sep 18, 2009 10:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Venable

defensive player of the game

BroncoJoe

by BroncocnorB on Sep 18, 2009 10:19 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I 2nd

rec’d!

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally Venable

he was all over the Fresno O tonight.. Except when Mathews broke free. That kids a solid RB.

  Great game though, theres still lots of the time in the season to fix the errors. And hey, no missed field goals, right?

"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." - Dan Hawkins

by BoiseState on Sep 18, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's true

but there was still a damn fumble. It’s getting cleaned up though. That’s good.

Watch out BCS...one day Boise State will be National Champs.

by Dr. Jrig on Sep 18, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And a FSU dropped interception

How big would that have been had Fresno’s safety come up with that? Next play, Avery takes it to the house on the screen pass. It would have been a lot tighter down the stretch if Fresno makes that first play.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haynes

The interception was dropped by Marvin Haynes, who was starting in place of the injured Lorne Bell (the team’s hardest hitter). I have to wonder what type of difference he might have made.

Also, two of the huge plays by Boise State’s offense were helped by reserve safety Zak Hill (Pat’s youngest son) being out of position and then getting burned on a bad angle. Frustrating he was even in the game at the time…

Check out the latest Fresno State chatter on the Bulldog Bounce blog at http://www.BulldogBounce.blogspot.com.

by FSDogs1 on Sep 20, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Colorado fans can sympathize with you on this type of thing…

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 20, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nepotism at its finest

by Nick Kroes on Sep 20, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Titus's fumble recovery in the endzone just got #4 on Sports Center's Top 10 plays.

I would have chosen Venable’s Superman tackle for loss in the 4th qtr.

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd probably just dismiss the rest of the weekend

and make Venable’s superman tackle #1 right now

"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." - Dan Hawkins

by BoiseState on Sep 18, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding

The fumble recovery for the score was important. Superman’s flying tackle was just awesome. It was almost like Raiden’s “Mighty-fum-laca”.

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately...

It won’t happen. All the analysts are up in arms b/c he led with his head.

Great play, though. Venable had a great game!

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 18, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its kind of hard not to lead with your head

 when your flying horizontally through the air. Ah well, analysts will be analysts. I know Bronco nation thoroughly enjoyed that one, no questions asked.

"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." - Dan Hawkins

by BoiseState on Sep 18, 2009 10:40 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Exactly. The way they were talking, there should have been a flag every time Colburn was touched. It’s not our fault his teammates can’t protect him, and he doesn’t know when to slide.

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 18, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who would they have called the spearing on?

Gravity? When you’re falling from the sky headfirst, you can’t really avoid spearing someone.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The block by the RB changed his trajectory.

Exactly… and his helmet hit Colburn in the shoulder pad. If had been helmet to helmet then maybe there is a penalty.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Sep 19, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we need to get photoshop out for Venable.

So, we’d be stealing it from silver and blue, but who cares!

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 19, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

looking at it

It appears WV hit the qb’s shoulder.

by tmunson on Sep 21, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bright side...

So, despite the fact that our defense didn’t post the kind of numbers they did in the last two games, (and the nicknaming talk may die down) there are some definite positives to our D’s performance tonight.

For one, it might be a bit of a motivation. The D may have come out of the first two games thinking they were invincible. Everyone was talking about them. Talking about nicknames and how they had given up less than 100 yds on the ground. Maybe they were getting cocky… This game has given them proof that they are not perfect. Yet. And they’ll work even harder at it going forward.

Oh, and WRAP UP!

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 18, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

That's true

But, take away those 3 big runs and that would have been a very different ball game. I’m mean, for most of the game the D was doing a great job. But over-pursuit and missed tackles created three huge plays and 21 points. That kind of stuff can be cleaned up, especially when you see it on film and realize when and where you were out of position. And then, hopefully, it doesn’t happen again.

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I was going to point this.

But it took me 2 hours to even get to the DVR’d game!!

But yeah, it was all about the big play for both of these teams. But for Fresno, even moreso. Take 3 TD runs from Mathews and it’s not a game. Their only other TD pass was from a phantom PI call to get them to the 20.

I know it’s part of a game and it doesn’t excuse the defense, but most of that stuff just annoyed me more than scared me.

Ok… so it scared me a little.

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 19, 2009 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see it both ways.

On the one hand, yeah the defense did a great job over all, but for a few sloppy downs that turned into big plays. Should be able to be fixed in practice. Take those away and we win BIG. On the other hand, it only takes a couple plays where our D falls asleep and we are in a fire fight. If we are that vulnerable to mental and technical lapses we could be in for undeservedly stressful games in the future. I’m sick of us losing bowl games.

I hope things turn out to prove the “one hand” theory right rather than the “other hand” theory.

by Rand McNalley on Sep 19, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don’t see why our safeties bit so close to the line of scrimmage in the first place… over and over and over. You would think they would hang back, especially after the first two big runs.

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 19, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm Kinda Numb

I don’t know what to make of anything that happened in Fresno. Three things come to mind:
1. Fresno State played a clean, tough game, and didn’t deserve to lose, for their effort. I think I respect them more, after tonight’s game.
2. Was BSU’s defense really that bad? Or, was Ryan Mathews playing at a different level? If you take Mathews three long TD runs out of the equation, Boise State dominated, and the stats look respectable
3. As well as Fresno State played, Boise State still won handily, so all hopes are still high for the rest of the season.

by TitoRay on Sep 18, 2009 10:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My Thoughts

All in all did not enjoy that game, the result was fine but huge offensive shootouts are definitely not my thing, especially when I had just been telling my entire extended family (BYU fans… I know, and I LIVE with these people) how DOMINANT BSU’s defense was this year… Anyways:

Good Things:
1. Holy Titus Young – best comeback/turnaround ever? I say yes
2. Holy Runningbacks – Even Jarvis Hodge averaged 10 YPC!
3. Holy Special Teams – Those kick returns AND no missed field goals? I’ll take it
4. Holy Winston Venable – Love this kid, easily more than my extended family

Bad Things:
1. Jeron Johnson – Stupid PI and he missed a tackle in EVERY 60+ yard run (Coach Pete was all over him as well)
2. Tackling in General – Sickening… Just sickening..
3. Kellen – Looked very uneasy all game, not necessarily his fault though
4. Injuries (?) – Any updates on Harper, Tevis ?

by J-Stat on Sep 18, 2009 11:01 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice Jarvis Hodge line

rec’d for the Hodge stat.

I saw Tevis in on a play later in the game, so I think he’s okay. I’m concerned about Harper. The Bronco offense is different without him.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One more bad thing I forgot to mention...

Trash talking. Why? Keep your mouth shut and make some tackles

by J-Stat on Sep 19, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giving up the 3 big runs did not seem to help our D’s image. They announcers seemed to be praising the D up until that firs run. Overall, I thought Boise played alright, aside from the 3 runs of course. I thought it was good to see the offense getting big plays. We didn’t see too many in the first 2 games. Having 1 player with 3 plays of over 60yds, and having 2 near TD returns on kickoffs was nice to see. Would have been better had they not got caught on the KO returns…

Anyone going to the BGSU game? Can’t wait to get to see the Broncos play again.. Once a year just isn’t enough.. Come to this side of the Mississippi more!

by Ihavenofriendzz on Sep 18, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mikrino and KYBronco will be there

You going?

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I want to know is...

Do we have to win every game 48-0 for me not to feel sick?

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 18, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I started having minor chest pains in the 2nd

The game was exciting to watch, but those 3 runs by Mathews had me trying to tackle the TV. I think I was more pissed than Coach Pete.

Luckily, our offense came to life and responded to every attempt that Fresno made to usurp the rightful order of things.

"I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass."

by Belexes on Sep 18, 2009 11:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

PS: Mission Accomplished today!


Myson’s eyes were getting burned out of his sockets by looking at me with the sun right behind my back. It’s ok, he’ll live!

I met Aaron Rodgers’ (artist) wife as he was out camping (she said he did NOT want to be camping during a BSU game). I told her about OBNUG and I hope she’ll remember the website to tell her husband to come visit!

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 19, 2009 1:21 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Loque

You scare me…just a little though. It is nice to know that I don’t need to give you directions to my house though, just let me know a little ahead of time that you are coming please. You are welcome anytime.

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 19, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

One more thing.

Fresno fans better stop being pessimistic about their chances every time this game comes around. I admit, I was quite surprised, and the Dog fan base was probably as well. Just goes to show that you should follow your team no matter who they play and how invincible they may seem.

…well, unless you’re Idaho. (I hope I didn’t just jinx that game)

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 19, 2009 1:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well the Gameday crew

didn’t seem to think that there was anything wrong with BSU’s performance last night. They just said that every time BSU looked to put the game away Fresno kept battling back. They gave all credit to Boise State without taking anything away. I guess like a battered wife, I was expecting some sort of bashing, but nothing. Then they talked about BYU for like 10 minutes. Gameday and BYU sitting in a tree…

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 19, 2009 7:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha
I guess like a battered wife, I was expecting some sort of bashing

 Intern you rule!

"Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee." - Dan Hawkins

by BoiseState on Sep 19, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take any win

New to this whole thing, but lovin’ it so far! As for me i’ll take any win as long as it IS a win! as for brotzman he went out with cramps.

by Dezi on Sep 19, 2009 8:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The "H" Factor

As in “heat and humidity”…

Like everyone else, apparently, I thought this was a brutal game to watch. And yes, I was wondering what the @#$% happened to that dominant D from games #1 and #2. Looking back, though, one thing stood out to me that no one’s talking about. The announcers said that at 9pm game time, it was still 90 degrees and humid. Anyone else notice guys going down like flies in the 2nd half? As a medic/trainer, almost all of them looked like heat cramps. Someone also said Brotzman was out because of cramps.

I did notice coaches working hard to keep guys hydrating on the sidelines, but I’m guessing BSU got gassed by the weather.

by themadhatr on Sep 19, 2009 9:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey!

I was just about to post something similar to this. I think it may explain some of the missed tackles.

Also, it could account for Kellen not looking as good as usual. We know he struggles sometimes with heat/humidity, etc. Maybe he was having trouble getting a good grip on the ball for some of those long throws?

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 19, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perspective

As good as Fresno State was, and with all the poor tackling, Kellen Moore struggling, and on and on…. Boise State still kicked the #$%& out of them. Man, they’re good.

by bronco1813 on Sep 19, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts:

-J. Robinson probably shouldnt be on the field even half the time he was last night. Took me back to his freshman season, I was not impressed…

-What were we trying to do with Burroughs?

-If Chris Potter is in the game its going to be a run. Poor kid, comes in for a couple plays a possession and its always a run play. Im about 95% sure its not coincidence.

-Is it possible that there is something wrong with Kellen that nobody knew about? Sick maybe? Even at the beginning… it seemed like we were taking the ball out of his hands. If it wasnt a run it was a screen… Most games he comes out firing??

-I Hate Injuries.

-Good win, close (well sort of) games are bound to happen.

by BustersBFF on Sep 19, 2009 11:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugly game all around

The things that really got me were the lack of wrapping up (been well-addressed already here), but also the huge, lobbing passes that Fresno was completing right over the top of our DBs. Those made me uneasy. I know our guys are a little short (or is that just Wilson?), but it seems like they were just throwing it up and praying, and most of the time they were coming down with the ball.

by appleshampoo on Sep 19, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

One Bronco Nation Under God (OBNUG) seeks to provide a source of relevant BSU news, mature BSU perspective, and biased BSU commentary with wit, reason, timeliness, and irreverence. That, and Vandal jokes.
Start posting about the Broncos »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

Connect_with_facebook

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Small
MUNSON'S GAZETTA:THE CONDITION THE CONDITION IS IN(AND HOW IT GOT THERE)
Img_0054_small
Jason Robinson suspended indefinitely
Acrey_hit_small
KW's Draft Projection by LA Times
Dscn0849_small
Kudos to Coach Graham for "Doing the Right Thing"
Bnnalbumart_small
The BNP – Cannot Predict Now
Small
Establish fund for Graham buyout!
Nickuw_small
MT: Lost
Icon2_small
Are you ready for some Volleyball?
Tnunson_small
MUNSON'S GAZETTA: ALL DOWN THE LINE(BACKERS)
Profile_small
It's a mad, mad, mad, mad Boise State basketball team

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recent FanShots

Jason Robinson arrested
Gene Bleymaier nominated for national award
Masoli suspended for the season.
Source for Boise States depth
Can you imagine doing this to Idaho fans?

This is right after a goal is scored, the fans you hear are pointing to the opposing fans in the stadium and chanting 'who are ya?'
Boise State Fires Greg Graham
Titus Young will answer any question...
H-Bowl may move to pre-Christmas!
MERLIN OLSEN DIED
Kyle Wilson. Our Hero!

+ New FanShot All FanShots >

Twitter us @obnug

SBNation.com Recent Stories

Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel, left, jokes with offensive lineman Bryant Browning (70) before taking the team picture during an NCAA college football media day, Thursday, Aug,13, 2009, in Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Terry Gilliam)

Jim Tressel Receives Two-Year Contract Extension, No Raise

The offensive line is reflected in the visor of Wisconsin running back John Clay during the second half of an NCAA football game against Michigan, Saturday, Nov. 14, 2009, in Madison, Wis. (AP Photo/Morry Gash) link

Wisconsin RB John Clay Will Miss Entire Spring Season

South Florida's Mike Ford carries the ball against Northern Illinois University Huskies during the International Bowl NCAA college football game in Toronto on Saturday, Jan. 2, 2010. Ford ran for a career-high 207 yards and scored one touchdown in their 27-3 win. (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Chris Young) link

USF Dismisses RB Mike Ford

More from SBNation.com >


Chairmen

Profile_small Kevan Lee

Nickuw_small Nick Kroes

Icon2_small Drew Roberts

Official Partner of CBS Sports