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Final pregame thoughts on Boise State vs. Fresno State

Tune in tonight at 7:00pm MT (ESPN) for the Broncos and Bulldogs. Check for the gameday thread that goes live here at 4:00pm. Share your opinion on the game in the comments. And after the jump, find out how the Fresno Bee thinks the Bulldogs should gameplan, and see why they're a little off.

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Coach Pete's keys to victory

 

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Turnovers

Ah, the great equalizer ... except in the Oregon game.

Boise State lost the turnover battle to the Ducks, and it mattered very little. Still, you just never know how turnovers can shape the outcome of the game. Here's a thought: If Boise State wins the turnover battle, it wins the game; if Boise State loses the turnover battle, it has a harder time putting the game away. What do you all think of that? Too confident? Do you think the only way the Broncos can lose to the Bulldogs is if they lose the turnover battle?

Tackling

When Coach Pete listed tackling as a key to the Oregon game, I think the concern was slowing down the Ducks' running game, so the onus was placed on the front four and the linebackers. Against Fresno, I believe that the emphasis will be more on limiting yards after the catch from Fresno's dangerous receiving corps, so the tackling pressure will be on the secondary.

Special Teams

That means you, Kyle Brotzman.

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Fresno Bee's keys to victory

Who died and made the Fresno Bee Ron Jaworski? A Bee columnist weighed in with his keys to victory for the Bulldogs against the Broncos, and his story was described by Brian Murphy as having "some interesting points in the article."

Well, I can't pass up a glowing review like that. Let me break down what the Bee thinks is important tonight.

Control the Run

In Fresno State's three games against Boise State since coach Chris Petersen took over, the Bulldogs have rushed for an average of 91.3 yards. Boise State has averaged 276 rushing yards.

When TCU beat Boise State 17-16 in the Poinsettia Bowl last year, the Horned Frogs ran for 275 yards and held the Broncos to 28.

Fresno State doesn't have the player personnel that TCU had. But the Bulldogs showed they are a better defense than they were a year ago in limiting run-oriented Wisconsin to 188 rushing yards last week.

Boise State's run game, meanwhile, has yet to take off this year, averaging 145.5 yards per game and 3.3 per carry with running back Ian Johnson gone.

"People might not want to hear it," Hill said, "but the team that is able to run the football in this game will have a great advantage."

I buy this key to victory. The running game is important. However, the running game has been important in all of the eight prior matchups and Fresno has fallen on its face each time, so maybe the key to victory should be actually executing the gameplan.

Practice, practice, practice

There's a common factor why Boise State has lost four of its past five bowl games: Teams have more time to prepare for the Broncos' unique offense that is filled with a variety of pre-snap movement.

"If I was having to play Boise State every year, I'd be working on them in the spring, I'd be working on them during two-a-days, even if I didn't play them in the first couple of ballgames," Patterson said. "I would treat them like our Air Force game here with their triple offense. You've got to get yourself ready to go."

Hill said the Bulldogs have prepped occasionally for the Broncos since the spring.

So Gary Patterson claims that in order to beat Boise State you have to work on them during two-a-days and in the spring and basically every time you have a waking moment during the offseason.

And Pat Hill preps "occasionally" for them?

Not exactly the vote of confidence Fresno fans wanted to hear.

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Running QBs help

In three of four Boise State losses with Petersen at the helm, the opposing team had a mobile quarterback capable of breaking a long run.

Fresno State might be wise to turn a bit more to Ebahn Feathers in place of starting quarterback Ryan Colburn. Feathers is said to hold Fresno State's fastest career mark by a quarterback in a 40-yard dash.

Well, this just isn't true.

Running quarterbacks do not pose problems for Boise State's defense, as evidenced by Colin Kaepernick's bummer of an afternoon in 2008. If you can reduce the West's best running quarterback to a non-factor in the running game, then you do not struggle with running quarterbacks.

Part of this philosophical mistake by the Bee is failing to understand that Boise State's defense of last year is not the same defense as the one that the Broncos put on the field in 2007. Yes, a running quarterback would have posed problems for the Broncos in 2007 because the defense was relatively mediocre. But not last year, and not this year.

The Bee lists TCU's Andy Dalton, Washington's Jake Locker, and East Carolina's Patrick Pinkney as the three running quarterbacks who posed problems for Boise State in the past. Well, Locker and Pinkney happened in 2007, so we can throw them out. Dalton posed problems for the Broncos not because he was an outstanding running quarterback but because the TCU offensive line owned the line of scrimmage.

So there's your key, Fresno Bee. Running quarterbacks are not an issue for this defense; physical, bruising, strong offensive lines are. And actually, we don't even know that for a fact because this year's Boise State D has yet to see one of those offensive lines. Does Fresno have one? Not last time I checked.

A crisp 2-minute offense

Hawaii beat Boise State 39-27 in 2007, securing the game on a touchdown pass with 26 seconds left.

East Carolina won after marching 54 yards on a final drive that started with 1:25 to play and ended with a field goal as time expired.

TCU might have needed to make a final drive, too, had the Horned Frogs not made a game-clinching interception with 1:47 remaining.

(Note: A bigger drive for TCU was the TD right before halftime. Let's not forget that 2-minute offense.)

I think this key kind of misses the point. In order for the two-minute offense to matter, Fresno is going to have to keep the game close. The only reason why the Bee's three examples make sense is because all three teams managed to hang with the Broncos all game long.

I would argue that the two-minute offense prior to halftime is more important, especially since Boise State has not put together explosive first halves of football so far this year. If Fresno can score in the final two minutes of the first half, they will cut into the lead (provided there is a lead) and take momentum into the second half.

THIS IS WHY YOU DEFER TO THE SECOND HALF IF YOU WIN THE COIN TOSS, FRESNO. I'm just trying to help you out here. Don't let Boise State take the field to start the second half if you can avoid it. How about that for a key?

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Make 'em Kick

Fresno State could benefit by forcing the Broncos into tense kicking situations.

Let me rephrase this one: Stop the Broncos on third down.

Because, really, isn't that what "making them kick" really means? If Boise State is kicking, then they failed to get a first down or a touchdown, which is probably the bigger victory out of all this. It would benefit the Bulldogs for Brotzman to miss a try at three points, but it would be even more important for Fresno to keep Boise State out of the endzone for seven points.

Third down conversions are an emphasis for the Broncos. I would be shocked if they weren't an emphasis for the Bulldogs.

Issues from last week

Tthe Bronco coaching staff listed these four main areas they needed to improve following last week's win over the RedHawks:

  1. Center-QB exchanges. The coaches said that Thomas Byrd struggles with snaps when he has a difficult blocking assignment on that play. Against Miami (OH), one of the RedHawks' best defensive players was on the interior line. Fresno can't say the same. The toughest matchup for Byrd might be picking up MLB Ben Jacobs on a blitz or tracking him down at the second level on a running play.
  2. Holds on XPs and FGs. With Austin Pettis supposedly taking over holding duties, it will be interesting to see how this area is changed.
  3. The running game. I have no idea what the Bronco coaches are planning. Will D.J. Harper get first-team snaps? Will Garrett Pendergast? More plays with a fullback? Less shotgun? More Doug Martin? I could ask questions for hours.
  4. Limiting third down conversions. Done and done.

Those are everyone else's keys to victory. What are yours? Do you agree with the Fresno Bee's keys to victory? How about Coach Pete's?

Share your thoughts in the comments.

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Boise State lost the turnover battle to the Ducks, and it mattered very little.

Au contraire. Without those turnovers, Boise would have been over Oregon by what could have been 21 points. Yes, the nation knows that we dominated Oregon, but if Utah beats Oregon in Autzen, when pollsters look at it 3 weeks away or towards the end of the season, they’ll be looking at the 19-8 spread and question our performance.

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 18, 2009 7:58 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Good catch, Loque

I should have said “it mattered very little in the win/loss column.” Of course, as you mention, even the win/loss column is relative in college football.

How much do you think Utah needs to win by to have it be considered a bigger win than ours?

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Utah wins at all it will be considered bigger

because they will have won at Autzen (against green jerseys on a green field) while we had the advantage of playing at home (with blue jerseys on a blue field).

by BSUDrew on Sep 18, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

BSUDrew

are you the new face of FFBSU, by chance? It seems like FFBSU hasn’t been around for a couple days… and now you are here. Or…Is Drew just really busy at work right now…and I should just get back to work?

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

nevermind

I just saw the other Drew’s comments below…back to work.

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry Drew…and New Drew…and nice to meet you Drew #2.

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for the warm welcome

I didn’t mean to impersonate anyone, though.

But if I were to do so, FFBSU seems like a worthy candidate.

by BSUDrew on Sep 18, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah!

Drew is pretty buff…I have seen him in person and would not want to encounter him in a dark alley. Actually, if I did encounter him in a dark alley he would probably just say “Hi” and walk right by. But my heart would be racing up until that point!

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?!

Why would I ever mess with the OBNUG Intern or his entourage? Dark alley or otherwise.

by Drew Roberts on Sep 18, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with faux-Drew.

If Utah wins in Autzen, it’ll be bigged because Oregon would have made some progress as a better team than the one Boise faced.

However, I don’t think Utah will jump us. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but, “THANK YOU, PRESEASON POLLS!”

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 18, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

It depends on the spread.

If Utah wins it will diminish your win by less than your win (and our poor showing so far) has already diminished our game.

The fact that your offense did not show up could hurt because people will use transitive MOV to compare our teams. The home field change will be counted as 5-6 points better Boise State would need to look against Oregon than Utah. With your 11 point win this comes to Utah needs to win by more than a TD to come out looking better than Boise State.

I agree Utah can’t jump you this week, if we both win. If we keep winning past the TCU game that would change.

by utesfan100 on Sep 18, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

“If I was having to play Boise State every year, I’d be working on them in the spring, I’d be working on them during two-a-days, even if I didn’t play them in the first couple of ballgames,” Patterson said.

Perfect! I remember Watson saying that when she visited TCU, they have a BYU helmet on one of the hitting dummies. Then TCU was the first to embarrass BYU in big games last year. This is exactly what Fresno needs to do. In some ways, I think Nevada already does this (hence the recent ‘closer’ games).

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 18, 2009 8:04 AM PDT reply actions  

hence the recent ‘closer’ games

And the loss to NMSU.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

at home, no less!

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

They need to put a NMSU helmet on the tackling dummy.

by Egnowit on Sep 18, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

My keys.

Are on the bookshelf.

As I twitted to Graham and previously posted here, I thought it was awful that Fresno was calling “cute” plays instead of running their game. Fresno needs to stick to it’s guns and do what’s in the standard playbook. Don’t do gadgets. That only works for the Broncos and the great Inspector (well, maybe not even then).

Defensively, I’d say that Fresno needs to barter for more timeouts. BSU rarely makes the “big play” anymore. They chip their way down the field, slowly but surely. Save all your timeouts for your defense, because they’re going to be playing on their heels for long durations. Either that, or WIN ON 3RD DOWNS (I think I’ve heard that somewhere before)!

Ajirotutu and Wylie. Use them.

Be BSU. Don’t go for the big ones, go slowly and play your game (Did I say this, already?).

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 18, 2009 8:28 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Coach Pete always says the right things. But you can tell he holds back his cards during interviews. Yeah, BSU has to stop 3rd downs, etc, but I am sure he has meticulously planned for the defense to render CSUF’s weapons ineffective.
I see 2 interceptions by the secondary…

Fresno media keeps talking about the difference in athletes between BSU and CSUF, which is a joke. We have actually smaller players, just more “excellent” players. Get it right if you wanna win one, Pat Hill!

Graham Watson’s game plan is to root against Boise State and use a cover story about redemption and dominance and blah blah blah. She makes me sick… And come on guys, I will say it: Can we at least get a dude to cover the WAC? I mean, women are capable of being great commentators and journalists, but she doesn’t help their cause. Its like almost being hit by a stupid driver and thinking, ‘I bet that was a chick.’ 9 times out of 10 it actually is a female. But I digress. Gray Ham needs to wake up.

by pretendhuman on Sep 18, 2009 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

BTW, I love women

so no offense to any woman intended except Graham Watson.

by pretendhuman on Sep 18, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

None taken. :)

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 18, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's not that Graham is a women, it's that she is a horrible sportwriter.

There are women perfectly capable of covering college football. Heather Dinich covers the ACC for the ESPN blogs and she is light years ahead of Graham.
Holly Anderson is an excellent writer for Dr. Saturday. She does a lot of non-BCS converage including the Mid-Major Monday wrap-up. With quotes like this following Colorado’s season opener against Colorado St., how can you not like her?

CAUGHT IN THE ACT! Dan Hawkins abandoned his usual doofus-cut for a slicked-back hairdo and Agent Smith sunglasses, and appears to have thrown any semblance of a strength and conditioning program by the wayside with equal disdain. And let me get this straight: Colorado State knocks off Colorado — no, manhandles Colorado — at home, storms the field after the upset and takes down the goalposts … and nobody thinks to release Ralphie? That’s just a waste of a perfectly good buffalo.

Besides let’s not forget when the ESPN blog’s first came on the scene, most of us thought Graham was a man and we concluded she was a hack long before we found out she was a woman.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Sep 18, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 18, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have read through a couple of Holly's posts today

I really like her style of writing. Thanks for the pointer!

by appleshampoo on Sep 18, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holly is good.

But I’m still a Ted Miller fan. He’s almost as corny as most of us on here. One of the main reasons to move to the PAC-10? A: Ted Miller blogs!

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 18, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Confession time...

I’m terrified about this game. The lackluster execution will absolutely bite us in the keister if we come out flat against Fresno. To borrow a line from Joe Giansante—this is Fresno State’s Super Bowl. Our defense can’t play that soft coverage that they did against Miami (OH) and the offense HAS to capitalize.

Also scared that our kick coverage has been sucking.

35-10 Broncos if we play our game. If not…27-24 or (gasp) a loss.

by Drew Roberts on Sep 18, 2009 9:08 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Tough to say...

Fresno State has the athletes to take it to the house and playing soft zone defense and letting them pick up 10-15 yards on 3rd downs (like we did against Miami) could easily turn into 40-50 yard gains with a key block, bad angle, or missed tackle. We have to get back to the smothering D we saw against Oregon if we want to shut Fresno down.

Miami (OH) had our D beat on a long pass play in that game…luckily the receiver gave up on it.
Fresno won’t, IMO

by Drew Roberts on Sep 18, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Fresno can score 24 points if they get some “cheap” points with a defensive score or a short field following a turnover.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Sep 18, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

…this is Fresno State’s Super Bowl.

I’m not worried because I think this is a false take. As noted by drew:

So Gary Patterson claims that in order to beat Boise State you have to work on them during two-a-days and in the spring and basically every time you have a waking moment during the offseason.
And Pat Hill preps “occasionally” for them?

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 18, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

My "Super Bowl" reference was referring to the emotional factor

Boise State looked flat against Miami (OH) but was sky-high against the Ducks. Pete usually does a good job of getting the team in the right frame of mind, but on occasion (ECU) they’ve been flat in games that mattered. If you remember the 2005 game, Fresno just out-physicaled the Broncos and played with more emotion.

I think our boys will be ready…but that is an X-factor

by Drew Roberts on Sep 18, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well.

Not to take anything away from Fresno, but we still had ego-induced Zabransky.

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 18, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

…oh, and rec’d for the Giansante reference.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Sep 18, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Keys to a Bronco dub!

1. Limit our turnovers, create a couple on D (1 fumble, 2 picks).
2. Stop Fresno’s running game & we need to run decently.
3. No special teams mishaps.

Haha I swear if Brotz misses anything inside of 30 yards I’m running out of my house and laying down in the street. I can hardly even watch when he’s on the field to attempt a field goal.

Other than that, I feel pretty confident in this game. As long as we don’t shoot ourselves in the foot. Our defense will be stout (I dont think they were extremely motivated to shut Miami (OH) offense down – even tho they got the shutout) and I’m expecting the offense to be close to mid-season form.

Go Broncos!

by Drofdarb23 on Sep 18, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Aye.

I miss the days of praising Brotzman. It’s probably too much for us to ask that he be perfect again. Or is it?

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Sep 18, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope it isnt too much to ask..

Im no kicker, but it seems like a psychological issue.. All reports out of camp were that he was killing it – supposed to be back to his “old form”… and then he misses one from the left hash and the wheels have nearly fallen off. I think he just needs to make a 3-4 consecutive field goals (including a couple from the left hash) and he’ll re-gain his confidence.. HOPEFULLY!

by Drofdarb23 on Sep 18, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

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I think our staff knows more about Fresno than they know about us. We opened with a tough game,but both teams were breaking in new guys i e offenive line etc plus all the hype.. On both sides of the ball both teams probably played closer to basic than not.. Then we played Miami; you could tell that Miami had no hope and they knew it. Hard to read much into what the Borncos showed in that one. Meanwhile Fresno opened conventionally devouring a 1aa(excuse me FCB) team, then had a ball buster. we have to have a better feel. Maybe I’m putting too much of a point on it, but I read that Broncos staff didnt have much to go on getting ready for Miami becuse Miami hardly had a chance to do anything with Kentucky.Perhaps use that tiem to go basic and mix in a little FS? For the record I think we have the best coaches in the country(HC, OC and DC). This may augment that advantage.

by tmunson on Sep 18, 2009 9:51 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

My Keys to Victory

Blitz the QB unmercifully. I think you will see Wilcox calling for more blitzes than what we have seen in the last two games.

I am not too worried about their run game. We will bottle that up pretty good.

"I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass."

by Belexes on Sep 18, 2009 10:21 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Interesting

Blitzes with man coverage behind, I assume? I think the Bronco D is capable, with Kyle Wilson, Brandyn Thompson, Jerrell Gavins on receivers, Jeron Johnson, George Iloka on TEs and RBs.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a rog

They are going to want to blow up Fresno’s O line and D backs will not have to worry about being in man coverage for long on each play.

BSU is going to force them to get the ball out faster than they want. You will see some interceptions by the Bronco D. The running game for Fresno will have no holes because we will be plugging them up with the second 3. Remember the 3-3-5 article?

Fresno will not execute their offense very well being rushed. They will have no time for their plays to develop.

"I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass."

by Belexes on Sep 18, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd

I think you’re “spot on” as the limeys say. My take on Wilcox’s defense is that he’s more of a “keep ’em” guy generally. However, watching that kid last Sat he was good and 2 of the picks didnt’ appear to be his fault. I doubt this was wasted on Wilcox. I think our d-line can separate the Fresno o-line effectiivley. I’m reminded that it was the 3rd game of last year that Wilcox brought out the nickel. I think he’ll have a couple of “treats” within the overall framework you’ve described.

by tmunson on Sep 18, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this is the type of game the Bronco Defense gets up for.

Seriously. Nobody ever wants to admit that they take plays off or games for that matter, but they do. Boise State faced, statistically, one of the worst offensive teams in college football last week. I think it’s safe to say they didn’t need their ‘A’ game.

No one wants hear that I know, but there is truth to it. This week is a foe with a much bitter past. Fresno feels entitled and the Broncos have almost always been the team that takes away their sense of entitlement. We steal it, make a fancy necklace out of it and wear it to all the cool hangouts. The Bulldogs will be ready tonight. So will the Broncos.

The Broncos Defense that opened the season will likely show up to this game. If so, it will entertaining to watch. If they can end week 3 only giving up 8 points so far… imagine the revelry.

I do think the ‘backyard shenanigans’ taking place on the offensive side of the ball needs to stop. If I see another fumbled, bumbled, or discombobulated first half of football, from a team largely considered to have one of the most complex and confusing offensive schemes, again, I’m not sure what I’ll do. It’s like their Kill Switch does not engage, and it raises my ire. My ire is ugly, and fat, and bald, and has bad breath. Do not raise my ire.

Overall I am supremely confident in our team’s ability to put this one away rather easily. I think Pat Hill is losing his touch, and as a result is losing his luster in the eyes of Bulldog Fans. Coach Pete has only just begun to assert himself, and this program, in the WAC and beyond.

I have spoken!

GO ORANGE! GO BIG BLUE!
FIGHT!
FIGHT!
BSU!!

Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)

by Mikrino on Sep 18, 2009 11:28 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

The fumbled snaps..

I JUST thought of this! Our recent struggles with fumbled snaps/bad exchanges could work in our favor.. Remember “Houdini” – the play against Oregon last year on 4th and 1 when Kellen pretended to fumble the snap and then hit Efaw on a HUGE gain? Our recent trouble with these exchanges could set the Fresno defense up for another play like this.. I guess we’ll see.

by Drofdarb23 on Sep 18, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fumble problems get to me, too

They are the stuff of lost focus and indiscipline – two hallmarks that you never hear with the Boise State football team.

What do we all think the problem is? I’ve been taught that center-QB fumbles are always the QB’s fault. Anyone agree? (Obviously, poor shotgun snaps are on the center.)

And well done, Mikrino. As always.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, I’ve also heard that center-QB fumbles are always the QB’s fault too. Except when the QB’s name is Kellen Moore. In that case, it’s all the center’s fault.

In seriousness though, I would also like to see us use these to our advantage. The ‘fake fumble’ play was one of my favorites last year. However, we should probably stop talking about it. I’ve heard that Pat Hill scans OBNUG for ideas all the time.

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 18, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Our QB-Center Exchange

Well in the article above it says:

“The coaches said that Thomas Byrd struggles with snaps when he has a difficult blocking assignment on that play. Against Miami (OH), one of the RedHawks’ best defensive players was on the interior line. Fresno can’t say the same. The toughest matchup for Byrd might be picking up MLB Ben Jacobs on a blitz or tracking him down at the second level on a running play.”

Apparently that might have something to do with it.. sounds more like Byrd is having issues rather than Kellen…

by Drofdarb23 on Sep 18, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

My take ...

… was that the Byrd mistakes were coming when Moore was in shotgun. If I remember right, only one (?) of the fumbles happened under center.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except when the QB’s name is Kellen Moore. In that case, it’s all the center’s fault.

True and rec’d.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what are are saying is...

that those fumbles were intentional and were set up to deceive a future opponent. So the Coaches really are geniuses! And you are not far off for figuring it out! Good job!

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha not quite.

I dont think the coaches would ever intentionally have the center and qb fumble snaps.. but with our excellent coaching staff, I could see them taking advantage of the situation. You know the Fresno coaches have mentioned our troubles w/ the qb-center exchange so their players will be looking for it..

by Drofdarb23 on Sep 18, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

If all the D is felling like Jeron, we have nothing to fear...but fear itself...
showoff23Man I kinda feel more hyp’d right now then I did for the oregon game.. can’t wait for kicc off!!
about 3 hours ago from twidroid

Man, I love twitter!

Not a Vandal fan!

by OBNUG Intern on Sep 18, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

necklaces?

They wouldn’t be out of dog bones, would they?

I love the colors Orange and Blue. Go Broncos!!! Go Titans!!!

by TitanBronco on Sep 18, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why are we worried about stopping the run?

Blount didn’t have -5 yards because he was a bad running back. We will shut down Fresno’s run game in similar fashion.

by BSUDrew on Sep 18, 2009 12:09 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

rec'd for a great point

"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."

by orangecircus on Sep 18, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blount

is a north and south runner and last year he got all of his carries late in games when he could punish a tired defense having to chase Jeremiah Johnson for the first half of the game. Against us, for whatever reason, CK was running Blount off tackle and on sweeps..

Fresno State will run more effectively.

by Drofdarb23 on Sep 18, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

My final thoughts

So no rival blog bet? Especially with a WAC opponent. I hope this doesn’t become a reoccurring thing. Those always make my week.

I love the colors Orange and Blue. Go Broncos!!! Go Titans!!!

by TitanBronco on Sep 18, 2009 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

If it's any consolation ...

.. Bowling Green has some good blogs. I should be able to get one of them to bite.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Sep 18, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for the pun

So you are saying Bulldogs are all bark?

"I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass."

by Belexes on Sep 18, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

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