North Texas to the WAC? It would sure beat playing UC Davis
Scuttlebutt on the Louisiana Tech message boards has rumors circulating about if/when North Texas will leave the Sun Belt for the WAC. Also on the LaTech message boards? A forum called Touchdown Tim Rattay, so take the UNT news for what it's worth.
At the very least, the question of North Texas going WACward is a good topic of debate. How would the Mean Green perform against WAC teams? How much will conference schedules change? Can we swing a trade of UNT for NMSU? And most importantly, will the Mean Green put up much of a fight against the Broncos?
I think you know the answer to that last one.
The rumors started where only the best rumors start: legislature.
The Texas state legislature just last week declared UNT one of 7 designated public universities in the state of Texas targeted for "Tier One" research status.
Essentially, the state of Texas is willing to make UNT a priority, which could have the Mean Green thinking bigger and better when it comes to its athletic conference.
Certainly the WAC wouldn't be a bad move for North Texas. Thanks to Karl Benson's TV voodoo, WAC teams have a stellar ESPN package that brings with it a lot of national exposure. Plus, UNT would get to face Top 25 teams on a yearly basis within conference, and the WAC bowl tie-ins could be greater than what the Sun Belt currently has (no offense, St. Petersburg Bowl). In a lot of cases, moving to the WAC would be very good for UNT football.
But then there's this: would UNT football be good for the WAC?
Recent history says "no." Since god-like high school coach Todd Dodge came into town, he has led the Mean Greeners to three wins in two seasons. He has a 1-13 record in conference - the Sun Belt Conference. He is Robb Akey South minus the moustache.
(Speaking of Robb Akey, he is apparently holding some poor copywriter at the Idaho Press-Tribune hostage because that is the only way I can explain the IPT publishing a story about the Vandals starting the season 5-1 this year. "A 5-1 record will have Vandal fans thirstily lapping at the thought of a bowl-game bid." I don't even know where to begin with that because a) it's terribly ridiculous, b) the phrase "thirstily lapping" makes me feel uncomfortable, and c) I'm too busy trying to figure out how the writer thinks that a road game at San Jose State is winnable. Dave Southorn, how could you let this happen?)
So in the sense of Todd Dodge and Robb Akey being similar, maybe UNT would be a good fit in the WAC after all. The conference can always use another punching bag coach.
And Boise State can always use another mediocre conference opponent.
Or can they? It seems like North Texas would fit in nicely with the Aggies and Bulldogs of the conference, but if the past two seasons of UNT football are any indication, the Broncos would roll over the Mean Green like they have so many other outmatched opponents.
Having North Texas on the schedule might make dropping a I-AA school like UC Davis a little easier. But is that really how things will go down? Instead of losing what basically amounts to a bye week, chances are that the schedule makers would instead take away one of Boise State's C-USA or MAC teams. Some seasons, adding North Texas could make the Broncos' schedule even softer, something the national media did not know was even possible.
Adding North Texas might be good for North Texas. It might even be good for the WAC (having an even ten teams is positive, getting a Texas school is a coup).
But another also-ran mucking it up in the middle of a perceived weak conference will do little for Boise State.
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Agreement
I agree with your analysis. Maybe we could broker some sort of 2-for-1 deal, like we’ll trade NMSU AND Utah for North Texas. Either way, it doesn’t do much for us. Maybe we’ll just say, “Sorry, North Texas, we’re all full-up on mediocrity here. Find some other conference.”
Punching Bag
Or we could use North Texas as a punching bag for our one point loss to TCU
"The brothers, they don't think I know a butt-load of crap about the gospel, but I DO." -Nacho
Yeah...
That’s true, we could. That’s what they get for coming from the same state.
by CaptainBronco on Jun 8, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
BroncoFever, your signature makes me very happy. As Nacho would say, “It’s the best.”
"Did you eat your Wheaties this morning, Phillip? Thank God you ate your Wheaties. Alright, Simms, way to hustle." - Tim
Nacho
thanks Kev, it’s pretty much my favorite movie, right behind the Fiesta Bowl DVD
"The brothers, they don't think I know a butt-load of crap about the gospel, but I DO." -Nacho
Maybe...
If we try really hard, we could get all of the bottom ten FBS teams to join the WAC! Does anyone have the Western Kentucky AD’s number?
Joking aside, I know someone who goes to UNT, and it would probably be best for our friendship if Boise State didn’t beat them up every year…
"Well, we'll just have to get to know each other a little better then. I like Ferris wheels, college football, and anything that goes more than 200 miles an hour."
That is a great idea...
Maybe the WAC could expand to 12 teams and add a conference championship game between the North and South division winners. That way the Broncos could beat up on Fresno twice a year.
"...he could have run for 500 yards if only the end zone hadn't kept getting in the way"
UI article
WOW! This article has SO much credibility. Leading these hypotheses with statements like:
The reasoning behind their potential swagger? The Vandals hopefully will be coming off a home win against pitiful San Diego State.
Ok, We know SDSU is pretty pitiful, but they still defeated UI convincingly last year (17 – 45). And now they have a high caliber coach at the helm of the program. The Vandals still have Akey… I need not go further to prove this point.
last year’s NIU crew was mediocre at best. A 6-6 record — including a shutout loss to Navy — got the Huskies into the Independence Bowl, where they came up short against Louisiana Tech.
A La. Tech who ranked 2nd in the WAC, and an NIU squad who only lost 17-10 to said opponent.
Sure, La. Tech blasted UI 46-14 a year ago in a Western Athletic Conference game, but the Vandals know that almost anyone in the WAC is beatable.
Um… Show me ANYWHERE in the UI history of playing in the WAC that proves any team is beatable by the Vandals. (No, you can’t count the Vandals themselves.)
two of the Huskies’ first three games this season will be on the road versus Big 10 heavyweights Wisconsin and Purdue. They’ll be beaten up, probably both physically and emotionally.
You ever get beat up by someone, come home, then do the same thing to your little brother out of frustration? Me either, but this is my prediction on this game, anyway.
The Vandals certainly won’t be mistaken for the Steel Curtain, either. But in a game featuring two substandard defenses, I like UI’s chances, thanks to a group of talented running backs and some up-and-coming receivers…
The author forgot to bring over the excerpt from his draft reading, “… which I cannot mention any by name because I’m mostly just blowing smoke out of my—”
This was a great read. Nothing informative at all about it, and also way off topic, but I certainly loved the entertainment it provided. It makes me want to do a “Predict the Vandals 2009 season” thread.
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-- Nale
Classic Loque
Stupendous. I’m very glad someone picked up on the inane Vandal story. Wasn’t that some inspired writing? While I was reading it, I couldn’t help but feel as if life was passing by in slow motion and I was experiencing some sort of horrendous event that my mind could not comprehend. Nope. Just an IPT story.
And not only that, but it’s part two in a four-part series. I can’t wait for part three: “The Vandals and the Hawaii Bowl: It can happen, people!”
"Did you eat your Wheaties this morning, Phillip? Thank God you ate your Wheaties. Alright, Simms, way to hustle." - Tim

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