Four big questions for Boise State-Oregon hype
Brian Murphy from the Idaho Statesman is ready to start looking forward to the Boise State - Oregon game. Thank goodness we all waited for him.
Murphy opined in the Statesman how he and the Statesman sports staff have already had a 30-minute conversation about the topic of UO-BSU. Thirty minutes? That's nothing. I had a 30-minute conversation with myself this morning about what I would be wearing on September 3, and I'm planning on having the same conversation again every morning until September 2.
But in Murphy's impetuous joy, he brings up some interesting, albeit obvious questions. Namely:
- What are Boise State's odds of beating the Ducks?
- Is this the biggest game ever played in Bronco Stadium?
- How will Oregon's coaching change affect the game?
- Is the 2009 season essentially a one-game season for the Broncos?
He has questions, I have answers. Like Radio Shack, except hopefully more relevant.
For the record, Murphy says Boise State's odds are "pretty good," the game is the biggest in the Division I era, Chip Kelly won't matter on September 3, and Boise State's season will hinge "largely" on the outcome of this one game.
Fair enough. Here's what I think.
What are Boise State's odds of beating the Ducks?
If the game were to be played tomorrow (yikes, I just got a chill) and if I were somehow put in charge of setting a Vegas line for the game (yikes, I just got a mental image of someone breaking my knee caps), I would put the Broncos at four-point favorites.
Now, home teams start off as three-point favorites anyway in order to compensate for home-field advantage (oddly enough, NMSU only gets 1.5 points for their home games), so all I'm really saying is that the Broncos are one point better than a wash.
And that could very well be true. I believe that Boise State will go into the Oregon game as the favorite, if only by the slimmest of margins. Here's why: The Broncos beat the Ducks last year in Eugene (yes, Oregon fans, it happened; look it up), they could very well be ranked higher in the preseason if the early magazine polls are any indication, and the game is in Boise where the Broncos are 64-2 at home in the past decade.
If you want straight odds, I would put them at 2:1. And I'd give Oregon similar odds. The game looks awfully close on paper, which is Fresno State's favorite way to play. Boise State has the edge in a lot of categories, and I believe those edges will lead to the Broncos being favorites on game week.
Is this the biggest game ever played in Bronco Stadium?
Until UC Davis comes to town in October, yes.
But in all seriousness, I'm not ready to say this is the biggest game ever in Bronco Stadium history. I might be ready come late-August, but I'm not sold yet. Agree or disagree, that's just how I feel.
Some people will judge whether or not this is the biggest game by looking at the other BCS-conference opponents who have visited the blue in its history. That list would look like this:
- Washington State, 2001
- Oregon State, 2004
- Oregon State, 2006
And that's it.
In that regard, it is easy to see why people would jump to the conclusion that Oregon is Bronco Stadium's one shining moment. But it takes more than a potentially meaningless Game One of a 13-game season to qualify for "biggest game" notoriety.
Boise State won conference championships on the blue. They took back the momentum in the Idaho series, they won and lost Humanitarian Bowls, they put their mark on the national scene with big performances in big games.
And every time they did, I guarantee that there was someone out there declaring the game the "biggest" in Bronco Stadium history. The problem with that argument is that you can't compare history with an event that has yet to happen, unless you are in the business of comparing apples to oranges and Boise State to other WAC teams. It's just not the same.
Is the Oregon game the most anticipated game in Bronco Stadium history? Now you're on the right track.
How will Oregon's coaching change affect the game?
I'll say this much: It won't help.
There's a very good possibility that Chip Kelly replacing Mike Bellotti will have zero effect on the outcome of the game. Kelly's been around the team plenty, so it is not like this is his first big game with the Ducks.
But at the same time, Kelly has never been in a big game at Oregon as the head coach. He may have jitters; he may have anxiety; he may have me waving an articulate, cynical sign in his face all game long. But he won't have the head coaching experience that Chris Petersen has or that Bellotti would have had.
Depending on what variables come Kelly's way, Oregon may be at a disadvantage.
Is the 2009 season essentially a one-game season for the Broncos?
Absolutely not.
Allow me a moment to vent in the general direction of hyperbole. I love that we're talking about the Oregon game in May. I love that we've been talking about it since April, March, and even into February. It's a huge opportunity for the Broncos and a great reward for the fans. But it is only one game in a 13-game season. There's no need to make it more than it is.
If being a college football fan for the past 25 years has taught me anything, it is that I know nothing. I might think I know that Boise State's entire season hinges on knocking off Oregon on the opening week of college football. And I would probably be completely wrong.
There is no way of knowing how the Oregon outcome will affect the rest of the season for the Broncos, so there is no sense in declaring it the be-all, end-all of Boise State's 2009 football team.
If the Broncos win, will the other 12 teams on the sched simply give up and let BSU waltz to a BCS game? Of course not. After Oregon, there are tough games against Fresno, LaTech, Tulsa, Nevada, and any other number of schools who would love to knock off the big bully of the non-BCS.
If Boise State loses, will the Broncos pack it in and call it a season? Of course not. As TCU proved last year, losing to a BCS-conference team early in the season does not end your shot at a BCS bowl. The Horned Frogs could have very well been the top non-BCS school had they found a way to beat Utah. Boise State could run the table after an Oregon loss, doing so in convincing fashion, and still be at or near the top when all is said and done.
There is too much football left to be played after the Oregon game to declare Boise State's season a win or a loss based on one result. I seem to remember Fresno State having a pretty good start to their season a few years back. And I seem to remember it not really ending well.
Bottom line: It's May. It's early. There's a lot to be decided, discussed, and discovered between now and September 3rd. And with Brian Murphy's blessing, let the debate begin.
Or, in the case of many in Bronco Nation, let the debate continue.
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Biggest regular season game...
From the standpoint that the BSU/UO game will pit two top-15 teams on the blue has to put this as at least the most high-profile game ever on the blue.
On all other accounts, I agree with you completely.
Fair enough. I would just be happier if they were two top-15 teams in November rather than two top-15 teams in Week One. Oh well. Maybe Nevada will make my dream come true. Ha. I just snort-laughed a little.
"I'm feeling skinny, Tony!" - Lars
Preseason rankings are bogus...
but without them, a mid-major would never be able to “climb that mountain”
Unfortunately, BSU does it’s best work starting outside the top-25
by Drew Roberts on May 27, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, Kevan, you make me laugh.
“…there are tough games against Fresno, LaTech, Tulsa, Nevada…”
Classic OBNUG material.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
On the coaching change:
CK runs a tighter ship than Bellotti. There is definitely a culture change brewing in the program. I personally feel like there were a lot of time that we didn’t get the most out of the players with Bellotti. Our conterpart in Riley over at Oregon State has done a much better job in that regard. Anyway, I have feeling that is going to change.
In so many words, yeah.
We will not know until September how good of an HC Chip is, and likely not for another few games as well. All we can assure you is that things will be different in his regime. Different, yeah.
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Well...
..if Chip Kelly taking charge is anything like how Chris Petersen took over for Dan Hawkins, you Ducks are going to be happy for a few decades.
If it doesn’t work out, then us Bronco fans probably won’t be too happy. We still are very wary of the threat that an open Oregon head coaching position would mean not too happy for those of us who wish Chris Petersen was our dad.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
My thoughts...
Well, for what their worth, anytime we beat a PAC-10 team, it only furthers our case that either the BCS is bogus, or Boise State is good enough to compete in a BCS conference. Whenever we lose to a PAC-10 team, (like Washington), the media and talking heads just pat us on the head as if to say, “Good try, Boise State, now go back to the WAC where you belong.” So beating Oregon twice in 2 consecutive years could only mean good things for us in the grand realm of college football. Do I think our boys in blue can pull off a win? absolutely. Do I think we’ll be favored to win? absolutely. Will I still be nervous until the game’s kickoff and probably during the game, too? absolutely.
by CaptainBronco on May 28, 2009 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Good thoughts. Beating Oregon twice in a row (a perceived strong team in the Pac-10) would be huge. Huge enough to get out of the WAC? Of course not. But it should at least silence the years of people complaining about how the Broncos can’t hang with big schools. If some thought last year’s win was a fluke, then hopefully this year will set the record straight.
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Which brings me to a question I've had.
How do you guys feel about being in the WAC? Do you guys want into the Pac? Are you indifferent? Do you like being the breadwinner in the WAC, or would you rather step into the upper tier of the BCS conferences.
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I can guarantee that 98% of Bronco Nation wants out of the WAC. The PAC-10 would be HUGE, but we’d certainly be content even if a move to the MWC was proposed. Our AD is trying to leave this conference every year.
However, you won’t ever hear the players or coaches say so. Their job is to give respect to the conference and play the political hero.
PAC-10, however, will not invite us. You will (or already) have a new commissioner, and he’s mentioned expansion already. But that mention was specifically Utah and BYU. So I doubt our chances would be very high. I see the trend being that you have 2 teams/rivals from each state (excluding California). Needless to say, Boise St. has no such real rival in state (or out, for that matter).
Which brings me to confess a personal desire of mine. I would love to keep the Oregon/Oregon St. series going with Bosie St. year in year out. It would mean losses, but I really want some good regional action.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
which brings me to the answers to your questions...
to answer your questions:
1) How do we feel about being in the WAC?
A1: Well, it’s kinda like playing backyard football with your neighbors kids. It might be sorta fun to beat them for the first couple of times, but after awhile it gets kinda old, and you don’t get much out of it.
2) Do we want into the PAC?
A2) Sure, but no one has asked us yet.
3) Are we indifferent?
A3) No, I agree with Loque, I think most Bronco Fans want out of the WAC, even if it means going to another non-BCS conference like the MWC. (a half-step up the ladder is still a step in the right direction)
4) Do we like being the Breadwinner, or want to step into the upper tier BCS conferences?
A4) I think that the question we all want to prove is that we’re good enough to play with the upper tier BCS conferences. That’s part of what makes the Fiesta Bowl win over Oklahoma such a big deal, and all the other subsequent “upsets” because furthers the cause that just because you’re an “upper tier, blueblood” BCS team does not automatically mean a win when you step on the field against a non-BCS school. Of course, no one can know if we’re good enough to play against the upper tier BCS schools unless we’re given a chance.
And that’s all we’re asking for: a chance.
by CaptainBronco on May 30, 2009 5:54 AM PDT up reply actions
A4...
What I mean more was, would you rather remain the pride and flagship school of the WAC, or be another school fighting for buoyancy in, say, the Pac-10.
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For me:
The latter. More money, better recruits, better opponents, blue turf.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
That's what I was assuming.
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