Fiesta Bowl debate: As a Boise State fan, are you afraid of TCU?
With the Fiesta Bowl only two weeks away, it's time to kick our coverage into high gear, starting with perhaps the most important question for Bronco fans: Are you afraid of TCU?
After the jump, Drew and I choose sides and debate the topic into the ground. Where do you stand with the Horned Frogs? Are you worried heading into the Fiesta Bowl? Are you confident? Weigh in with your choice in the poll and in the comments, and read along to see the reasons behind each school of thought.
Drew and I tackled this topic the best way we knew how: Email exchange. I took the side of "confident;" Drew took the side of "terrified." The following is our back-and-forth.
Are you afraid of TCU?
Kevan: Things I am afraid of: deep water, homeless people, midgets, failure, letting down the people closest to me, robot singularity, toaster ovens, and unintentional double entendres. Things I am not afraid of: Disney original programming and TCU.
Surprised? You shouldn't be. Lizzie McGuire was adorable, and TCU is beatable. The Horned Frogs deserve Broncos fans' respect, but they do not deserve Bronco fans' sleepless nights of sweat-drenched worry, emotional eating, and soft weeping to the sound of John Tesh Christmas playing from the white noise radio machine on their night stand. This Horned Frog team is tough. No doubt about it. But they are also beatable.

Bronco fans need look no further than TCU's game against Air Force for proof that the Horned Frog iron giant has a self-destruct button. Against the Falcons, TCU turned the ball over three times, gave up 229 yards rushing, failed to reach the end zone in the second half, and won by three. Experts blame the weather for the underwhelming result, which is a little like blaming George Washington for the decline of the dollar. Other people blame the tough road environment of a conference foe. Others blame Andy Dalton because they just love to ginger hate.
Fact is, TCU played a very losable game against Air Force. And they did the same two weeks prior against Clemson, a team that was struggling at the time. A three-point win over the Falcons, and a four-point win over the Tigers will be written off by most people as early season struggles, but the prudent Bronco fan knows better. If you believe the Broncos of September 3 versus Oregon can show up in the Fiesta Bowl, then what's stopping you from daydreaming about facing the Horned Frogs of October 10 versus Air Force?
Hakuna Matata, Bronco fans. TCU is good, but they are far from invincible.
Drew, what say you?
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Drew: First off, props to you, Kevan for admitting your hobophobia...it takes a big man to own his fears and shortcomings. I believe it takes an even bigger man to admit fear of another non-BCS football team...so here goes.
TCU frightens me in a big way. It isn't really their ginger QB or their All-American DE Jerry Hughes that has me more than a little concerned. No...what has me more scared than Oprah without her makeup on is the fact that TCU dominated Boise State in last year's bowl game...and they're better this year.
Most outsiders will remember last year's Poinsettia Bowl as a 1-point barn-burner that was only won late in the game by TCU...helped by a missed FG and late INT thrown by Kellen Moore. More obsessive compulsive types will remember the game as one that was won handily on both sides of the ball by TCU. The Broncos mustered only 250 yards of offense in that game and gave up 472 to TCU - 275 of which came on the ground. Looking back, it's amazing that Boise State only lost by one point.

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Frog QB Andy Dalton is better than last year and the team ranks in the top-5 nationally in rushing yards per game and scoring offense. And I hate to say it, but the Broncos are by most accounts not as good this year on D. Put the gawdy turnover numbers and 13-0 record aside, and I think most would agree that the Bronco D has shown flashes but has been more inconsistent this year than last. Did I mention that TCU has arguably the nation's best D this year? Don't forget last year's squad held the Broncos to a mere 28 yards rushing.
Now, don't get me wrong...the Frogs aren't unbeatable...and I think the Broncos will represent the best offense and defense TCU has faced this year...but gadfries, the Broncos have to play better than they did against Oregon to leave Glendale with another trophy. If you think me a coward...so be it. At least I'm not scared of bums.
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Kevan: 2009 TCU is better than 2008 TCU. I'll give you that. But thankfully, the Fiesta Bowl is being played in 2010, a full Dilbert desk calendar away from 2009.
Bronco fans need look no further than last year's Fiesta Bowl for antacid-type relief. Ohio State was supposed to get blown out by Texas, but blowing was the last thing to happen in that game (did I just do the double entendre thing?). The Buckeyes hung close to the bitter end, and I narrowly escaped with my 33 Bowl Pick 'Em confidence points in tact.
Point is: You never know what will happen in bowl season ... unless you're a fan of a Bob Stoops team.

You want to know another reason why I'm not scared to death of TCU? My Second Life friend, Coach Pete. He will come up with a gameplan to get the most out of this matchup. The last time he had extra time to plan for an opponent turned out to be the Broncos' best effort of the season against Oregon. Give Coach Pete a month, and he can gameplan against just about anything. TCU? Counter plays and single coverage. Trade deficit? Minimum-working age lowered to 11. Cancer? Beets.
The extra time between now and January 4 can only help the Broncos as they heal, study, and prepare for their toughest game of the year. Is the matchup in their favor? Maybe not on December 14, but check back in three weeks, and I guarantee you things will be closer.
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Drew: Uh...Kevan? Have you watched any Texas games this year? Putting aside they're the "No. 2" team in the nation this year (No. 2 also refers to Colt McCoy's play in the Big 12 title game), I don't know if I'd use them in any type of example of what can and cannot be accomplished. TCU is better than Texas...and I don't even think that is much of a stretch.
Let me list a few other reasons that TCU scares me this year (the year that matters most). The injury bug that Boise State kept at bay for years with a giant citronella candle has finally landed, and is slowly sucking the heart and soul out of our team. Richie Brockel, DJ Harper, Matt Kaiserman, Tyler Shoemaker...the list (unfortunately) goes on and on - but I haven't even mentioned the biggest loss: Austin Pettis. Pettis, quite simply, keeps our offense going and provides a huge safety net for Kellen Moore. Another thing that Pettis provides besides corner-fade TD grabs is the ability to spring our other star wideout Titus Young. In the 1 3/4 games that the Broncos have played sans Pettis, the passing game simply did not click. Titus Young is a playmaker and a valuable deep threat, but Kellen's long ball can be spotty and Titus is coverable. Now, having Shoemaker back will slow the blood-letting...and Kirby Moore is coming around...but we need Austin Pettis. We need him like Chris Ault needs Centrum Silver.

Oh, here's another! Boise State's defense has been incredibly inconsistent this year. After the Oregon and Miami games, I thought the Broncos might be able to stop a freight train. Then Fresno State happened, or more accurately, Ryan Mathews happened. This shook my faith in Boise State's defense to the core. Boise State, unlike last year's squad, had rediscovered their ability to give up big plays. Fresno State, Tulsa, Louisiana Tech, Nevada, Utah State, and even Idaho all got at least one biggie against the semi-vaunted BSU "D," and that is all it will take when you're playing as talented a squad as the Horned Frogs. If Boise State can't get the offense moving (Doug, we're counting on you) and they allow TCU to put consistent drives together, Boise State might get embarrassed. I don't like embarrassment...I witnessed the 2005 season.
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Kevan: As a matter of fact, I did not watch any Texas games this year. On a dare, I have watched nothing but the .mtn since August. I now wish for death.
The loss of Austin Pettis is big, but it is not life-altering since Kellen Moore is still QB, Bryan Harsin is still OC, and I bought a lock of Dan Hawkins' hair from David Augusto that Augusto promises me will heal Pettis in time for the Fiesta. The Broncos have enough skill and scheme left on offense to give Boise State fans hope. I'm not predicting offensive fireworks, but there's no need to fear the Broncos laying a box of Pop-its, either.
The Bronco defense reverting to the 2007 Hawaii Bowl version lurks as a possibility, but so does the possibility that BSU can coalesce into a stew of all the dominating parts of the defense that we have seen this year. A dash of early Fresno, large parts of Tulsa - mmmm. Tastes like Fiesta Bowl champion swag. Can the Bronco defense pull it off? I'm confident that the extra prep time, the Kyle Wilson made-for-TV-movie movie ending, and the gravity of a BCS bowl will inspire an impressive effort.
Before letting you rebut, I'd like to point out the inaccuracy in one of the founding principles of this TCU fearmongering: Strength of schedule. The Horned Frogs have built their reputation on the Mountain West Conference and two road wins over BCS-conference schools. And now we have to deal with FanPosts like this:
I fully agree that TCU is one of the best teams in the Nation this year. It is a shame that they have to prove how good they are against an "overrated" Boise State team, that doesn't even deserve to be in the BCS. With that I would like to say GO FROGS! Beat them Broncos!
Jeff Sagarin, who must be important because he has his own poll, ranks the schedules of Boise State and TCU thusly:
- TCU: No. 82
- Boise State: No. 98
Fear not, Bronco Nation. The Horned Frogs went undefeated against a WAC-caliber schedule plus hype. Boise State's highest quality win was Oregon; TCU's was Clemson. Each team's next toughest games were against conference foes, which leads me to the obvious question: Does a team that beat BYU and Utah scare you?
It does not scare me. We have already been over what scares me. Overrated MWC teams do not make the list (unless they are coached by a toaster oven). TCU's margin of victory has been impressive, but its schedule is nothing to start a Bleacher Report account over. It's also nothing to fear.
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Drew: Ok, ok. I agree that Boise State would've beaten BYU and Utah and owns the more impressive OOC win of the two teams (against top ten Oregon). My fear (call it trepidation if you'd like) mainly stems from so many unknowns. We know TCU has a tough-as-nails defense...we don't know if we'll see Boise State's top-flight D (or even if we'll revert back to the hellish snap problems of earlier in the season). We don't know if we'll have Pettis back. We don't know if Jerry Hughes will be held in check by the Bronco line or if he'll go all Ndamakong Suh on us.
I think Boise State and TCU are fairly evenly matched on paper, but we simply cannot afford to play like we have at times this season...TCU may have a similar schedule to ours, but we can't skate by them playing like we did against UC Davis, Tulsa, Louisiana Tech, or even Fresno or Nevada for that matter. Boise State must bring the defense from the Ducks game and the offense from the Idaho game. Anything less may spell D-I-S-S-A-S-T-E-R. Wait...did I spell that right?
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Kevan: You were close. D-I-S-S-A-S-T-A-R. No wait. Ah, I don't know.
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For the record, my list of games the Broncos played this year that would have been good enough to beat TCU: Oregon, Bowling Green, Tulsa, Hawaii, Idaho, Utah State, and Nevada. That's seven out of 13, which is more than 50 percent, which I can round up to equal 100 percent, meaning Boise State has played well enough in every single game this year to beat TCU. Fact.
A lot of this debate seems to come back to the eternal struggle between cautious realism and predictive optimism. For all you optimists in the room, let's eat family style from this fact: Boise State has not lost by more than two touchdowns since the 2005 season. Anyone whose fear of the Fiesta Bowl is based on the possibility of a Bronco blowout needs to rest easy. When Boise State doesn't win, it keeps games close, and so long as the game is close, there is always the chance to pull out the win. No worries.
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Drew: Alright, Kevan-here's the deal. The last few bowl games where we didn't have the proper fear (read: respect) for our opponents we got beaten. I remember that the 2007 ECU team had no business being on the field with us and then Chris Johnson blew past our secondary time and again like they were standing still. Last year's consolation prize bowl game against TCU was supposed to be no contest too, and we all know how that one turned out. I'm content to fear the crap out of TCU this year and expect the worst...then maybe I will be pleasantly surprised on January 5th instead of being talked off a ledge. See, Kevan? There's a method to my madness and I'm soakin' the sheets with a purpose this time around.
If the Broncos come into the Fiesta Bowl overconfident, I'm blaming you.
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Kevan: Blame away. I was named "Most likely to take the fall for something he didn't do" by my high school class, so being a scapegoat comes naturally.
Bottm line for me is that I find too many rays of hope in this matchup to be overly concerned about the Horned Frogs. Boise State has the advantage of a month's preparation, TCU is overrated based on MWC reputation and some early season close calls, and the Broncos have given me no reason over the past five years to doubt them (Taylor Tharp excluded). Bronco fans have nothing to fear about the Horned Frogs. Yes, they are good. No, they are not omnipotent.
I have to go now. I think I see a bum.
Your turn
Where do you stand with this debate? Are you afraid of TCU? Do you see some signs of hope? Weigh in with your thoughts in the comments, and don't forget to vote in the poll.
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More like excited to play, cannot wait.
TCU should fear BSU, it is where magic happens.
by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Dec 21, 2009 7:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
afa game
Weather was an issue, but not as much as those turnovers. To beat TCU, Boise will need to force turnovers which is their weakness
by Jeremy Mauss on Dec 21, 2009 7:16 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I love how many Bronco “fans” like to point to the stats from the Poinsettia Bowl as proof that TCU is going to walk through the Fiesta Bowl.
I think it was a former Bronco who said it best: “Stats are for losers.”
TCU needs to be scared of BOISE ST! I love the way our D slows down spread-option offenses, especially with an extended period of preparation. Right, Duck fans?. Last year, the absence of Mike T was glaring to say the least. The talent of the D line this year is undeniable. Winn, Swyk, Baker, McCllelin: They are good. As long as everyone plays assignment D and doesn’t over-pursue, it could be a long night for TCU.
by MooreWalksOnWater on Dec 21, 2009 7:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You aren't questioning my fandom, are you MWOW?
Remember…these debates are for entertainment purposes only and we arbitrarily picked sides on the matter. I thought it might be fun to take off the blue and orange shades for a time and feign honest-to-goodness fear for once. In a debate, you have to present facts…and stats are the only tangible things to use in that situation. Off the record, I think that Boise State and TCU are very evenly matched and Boise State can cause big problems for the Frogs on both sides of the ball as well. It all comes down to execution. Which team will execute better? Who knows?
I sure like having Doug Martin, Kellen Moore, Billy Winn, etc on our side.
by Drew Roberts on Dec 21, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Would NEVER question...
… your’s or anyone else’s fanhood on this forum. That’s why we’re all here, to talk about Bronco football with true Bronco fans.
The “fans” I were referring to were from my days on the ESPN board. I’ve had numerous arguments with “fans” over the stats vs the score from the game last year. Also, I’m quite alarmed when I talk to my buddies still living in Boise and they tell me about all the Bronco “fans” who truly are scared of TCU based on the statistics from last year’s game.
I know this was a Skip Bayless-style “point/counter-point” debate and I like it. Articles like this are why I love OBNUG. We are all true Bronco fans. I’m just frustrated when I hear about all the pseudo-fans who are scared to death of TCU. After all the Broncos have done over the last 5 years vs tough teams (OU, Oregon St, Oregon x 2, TCU, etc…), why should we be scared of anyone? Haven’t they have at least earned our confidence?
by MooreWalksOnWater on Dec 21, 2009 10:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I think you hit the nail square on the head.
These teams are pretty evenly matched. TCU may be stronger defensively and BSU stronger offensively. Both teams have greate head coaches and top notch coaching staffs. The bottom line is it will come down to who excecutes better. The teams that executes their assignments the best will ultimately be victorious.
by Mountngrown on Dec 21, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It should be a good game
TCU and Boise are tough, seasoned team. I give talent edge to TCU, coaching to Boise.
I think that makes for an even game.
by MeanBobMean on Dec 21, 2009 8:10 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Here's my post on another thread:
What’s getting lost in the infatuation is this, TCU’s 12-0 record is really no better than Boise State’s 13-0. The Broncos are continually discounted or their perceivably weak schedule, yet TCU’s only nominally better top to bottom. Better nonetheless, but not by much. Let’s explore;
Virginia- 3-9, 118th in Total Offense, 56th in Total Defense
Colorado St.- 3-9, 81st, 78th
UNLV- 5-7, 80th, 115th
SDSU- 4-8, 87th, 71st
Wyoming- 6-6, 112th, 83rd
New Mexico- 1-11, 104th, 101st
That is six opponents that TCU faced that basically have no Offense or Defense. Throw in Texas State (FCS), and you’ve got a fairly creampuff schedule. Now before someone bumbles through a post with exacerbation, keep in mind I’m not saying Boise State’s schedule is better, only similar. Which makes me wonder why TCU is being adorned with national praise for this year’s run, and being included in National Title talk. Especially when you consider that the Broncos have been doing the same thing 3 of the last 4 years.
Is TCU’s Defense better statistically? Sure.
Should they be favored to win? Probably.
Do I think Boise State has their work cut out for them? Sure. Just as TCU does also.
Everybody may be predicting a TCU win, but nobody is predicting a blowout. In fact, in all the predictions I’ve seen has Boise State covering the 7 point spread. Which intimates to me that while TCU is seen as the popular pick, the Broncos are still going to make this a game.
TCU’s has a had a great season and they are a great team, I have no doubt.
What they haven’t faced all season, is another great team. Enter Boise State.
I can’t wait… GO BRONCOS!
If Boise State is overrated, so is TCU. The schedules both teams played are very similar. Just as it gets pointed out that its easy for the Broncos offense to put up the points they do against horrible defenses. I’d like to point out that its easy for TCU to look the way they do on defense when they’re playing such horrible offenses.
To put it plainly, I don’t care how many yards TCU racked up in the ‘08 P-Bowl. The only stat that matters is points. It was a one point win, nothing more nothing less. If anything Boise State’s defense showed they can do one significant thing against TCU; keep points at a premium. For all the yards they gained, they had very little to show for it. They won late, but most importantly, they won.
I give loads of credit to TCU for what they have been able to accomplish. I am by no means afraid of them after last year’s bowl game. The Broncos may have lost that game, but keep in mind, it’s the only game they’ve lost for two years now.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Dec 21, 2009 8:14 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks, I basically didn't want to type all of it again.
That, and I’m the most trustworthy source I know…
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Dec 22, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
here's how I look at it
What matters is, how do you think the BSU players feel about the game? Do you think they’re afraid? No, they’re chomping at the bit. If they’re not scared, I’m not scared. Are the coaches worried? Probably, that’s part of their job. But I’m sure they’re coming up with a great gameplan. I expect BSU to win every time. I expected them to beat TCU last year, and that was a bummer, sure, but that’s the way the cookie bounces.
by hummerofdoom on Dec 21, 2009 8:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
In last year's game
we must remember that Boise State early on fairly successful drives before an epic collapse by everyone from Harsin and Wilcox, to Brotzman’s leg. I think after scoring early and often everyone thought the game was in the bag. I remember celebrating like it was going to get ugly soon for TCU. That fast start ended up hurting us when it only solidified what we thought going in to the game: that we should win. This year has a completely different mentality for players coaches and fans which, to me, makes it impossible to compare this year with last.
by Finloopio on Dec 21, 2009 9:03 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
My 2 cents(adjusted for inflation)
Our D-line was beat up last year. We had to move Winn to DE and while he’s good he’s more effective at Dt. Last year we were not deep at Dt either. This year we are solid at the D-line. i think we have a near 3-deep roatation at Dt and 4 very good DE’s. Our O-line is small, and I still think we have run issues. With Austin 100% I think we could go to the pass almost enitrely and win. W/o him-? Our recent Bowl experience and the overall speed, strength and talent of TCU give one pause. We will have Fresh Legs & Bacon; I dont know that TCU has sampled had anything approaching that fare this year. And as for last year’s game- it was one point, we had 2 mins and 2 timeouts. TCU made a great play, but if we got downfield and Kyle got another chance?
Put me down in the appropriatley concerned but not frightened category.
tvmunson
by tmunson on Dec 21, 2009 10:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree about coaching
and I do not think any serious observer of college football would take more than minor issue with my “Troika” comment-we have the best 3 in college at HC,OC and DC. Ihave posted this other places and never received serious challenge. IM not taking away from other staffs but the Broncos are unusually blessed.
tvmunson
by tmunson on Dec 21, 2009 10:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I am NOT afraid!!
I know that coach Pete wants his revenge just as much as the players from last year. He is the kind of coach that will analize and pick apart another team.
TCU was a new team for him last year, but this year? This year he knows. He knows exactly what kind of team TCU is, how they play, and how they are coached.
So when you ask me if Im affraid or not, No!! not with caoch pete on my side. I see it as if this Fiesta Bowl may be the Battle over Middle Earth.(we all remember LOTR right?) in my eyes, this is how I think the game will end…..
*Perfection is our goal, excellence will be tolerated*
by BroncocnorB on Dec 21, 2009 10:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
sorry i couldnt find the pic of the good colliding with the eveil @ the bottom of the hill.
*Perfection is our goal, excellence will be tolerated*
by BroncocnorB on Dec 21, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does this qualify as good colliding with evil at the bottom of the HILL?
I think the flowers are the only good thing about this picture. And even that may be questionable.

Obviously you're not a golfer...
by ty_ol on Dec 21, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
lol absolutely it does.
*Perfection is our goal, excellence will be tolerated*
by BroncocnorB on Dec 21, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't fear TCU, but I respect them
I’m not scared of TCU, but I sure as heck do respect their coach, program, and this year’s team. I know our football team isn’t scared of TCU and that they too have much respect for TCU.
We’re used to being favorites and having the bulls eye on our back, however I think the team really likes being the underdog and having that “chip” on their shoulder. The last few times we’ve played “elite” teams (Oregon 09, @ Oregon 08, Oklahoma 07, etc) we’ve been labeled as underdogs and have had great success. Almost every article and prediction I have read has TCU winning and some aren’t even giving Boise State a chance. The players have internet access, watch Sports Center, listen to the media and have heard over and over that TCU is supposed to be in the NCG and how dominant their team is. I think our players are loving this, most of them weren’t recruited by “BCS schools” and have been out to prove they can play with anybody. This is going to give them another chance at that. The players I have spoken to are respectful of TCU and seem very focused.
I think we have a decent chance to win on 1/4/10 without AP.
If AP is back for 1/4/10 I really like our chances… I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
by Drofdarb23 on Dec 21, 2009 11:37 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
If any coaching staff can come up with a way to beat TCU
with the players available it is ours. If we lost AP the week before it would be one thing. We have several weeks to prep. Our running game is an issue.
tvmunson
by tmunson on Dec 21, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And it wouldnt surprise me if Pete and the boys
have been mulling over TCU for quite some time. I know he claims a Zen like focus on the immediate team but Pete appears able to chew gum and walk(as to Harsin and Wilcox).
tvmunson
by tmunson on Dec 21, 2009 12:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No fear here
Our team isn’t afraid of them and neither am I. If you are afraid to compete and lose, you have no business being a competitor.
I respect TCU, but have no fear of them. They are just another team of young men like BSU. Any team can be beat.
We have young men who are competitors and heart, they play to win. Just like TCU.
I think we win and I think we look good doing it.
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by Belexes on Dec 21, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I am afraid of their mascot!
Have you heard that it can shoot blood from it’s eyes!? YIKES!
Catch me on the BroncoNation Podcast!
by OBNUG Intern on Dec 21, 2009 2:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know..
we’ve faced some pretty tough mascots before and have come out a-okay.
Obviously you're not a golfer...
by ty_ol on Dec 21, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but look, this is scary!

Catch me on the BroncoNation Podcast!
by OBNUG Intern on Dec 21, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This... not so much

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by OBNUG Intern on Dec 21, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That is sad, but not scary
Obviously you're not a golfer...
by ty_ol on Dec 21, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone care to explain this?
Obviously you're not a golfer...
by ty_ol on Dec 21, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm nervous but...
That doesn’t really mean anything. I’ve stated on this blog several times before I get some level of butterflies before every game. Some games more than others, like Oregon.
TCU has a legitimate argument for being one of the best teams in the country. But then again, doesn’t BSU? TCU is good, and they’ll show up to play, but so will Boise State.
It’ll be a great game.
"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."
by Dr. Jrig on Dec 21, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I voted “Scared”, but to be fair I was even slightly nervous before Utah State. The only games that didn’t worry me were Idaho, San Jose, and UC Davis (Ha!). Then again, I also picked BSU in the pick’em with the second most confidence points of any game-so basically, I’m just another bi-polar Bronco fan with the night terrors between every game.
by Cougarflounder on Dec 21, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing I'm afraid of.
And it’s not TCU.
It’s our Bowl success rate over the past several years. The Fiesta is our lone win in the past 5 years.
Luckily, the win before that? Against TCU.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
by Loque on Dec 21, 2009 5:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great Debate, guys
For the most part, I’m with you, Drew, and you’ve mentioned many of the things I’ve been thinking. So i’ll make my thoughts as concise as possible.
I’m not worried about our D. They’ve been pretty solid all year, except the running game. But they’ve made the key plays when they needed to be made.
I’m worried that our offense will struggle with so many playmakers injured. But when I remember that we have Kellen Moore, Titus Young, and Doug Martin, I’m less worried.
In the meantime, i’ll still be worried in general.
by CaptainBronco on Dec 21, 2009 6:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Question
Anyone know if there is any truth to the rumor…K. Wilson to receive 10-15 snaps on offense?
by Jack's Smirking Revenge on Dec 21, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
*Perfection is our goal, excellence will be tolerated*
by BroncocnorB on Dec 21, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What about the rumor . . .
That says we have a right tackle out due to injury?
by casketbase on Dec 21, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind
Confirmed. Pendergast.
http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2009/12/21/ccripe/pendergast_out_broken_ankle_updates_pettis_shoemaker
Ug.
by casketbase on Dec 21, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that worries me some
Ames is supposed to be the backup but didnt they pull him bc he wasnt effective? he’ll line up agaisnt hughes
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by tmunson on Dec 22, 2009 8:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hughes lines up at RE and LE. Depends on the offensive formation.
Paul and Gallarda will be needed mucho!
Obviously you're not a golfer...
by ty_ol on Dec 22, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Paul is a pleasant surprise
I trust/hope Harsin can scheme this up. Gallarda is another So cal boy(I went to Servite where Garrett played and also lived near Brea where Tommy is from). I hope our run game can get going. i think we’ll be better agaisnt the run as our D-line is sick.
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by tmunson on Dec 22, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am so geeked up for this game!
Scared? Nah! Nervous? Kinda. Excited? Darn right! What a match!
by Uniballer on Dec 21, 2009 10:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I look forward to this game more than the Oregon game
They don’t scare me. Here’s my take.
We get blown out: 10% chance.
They get blown out: 5% chance.
We win a comfortable game: 25% chance
They win a comfortable game: 25% chance
We win a close game: 20% chance
They win a close game: 15% chance
by FirstDown on Dec 22, 2009 12:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Up until this season
I thought the Broncos were especially blessed at not having injuries. Mayb eth eintensity of th eWAC is more than the critics give it credit for.
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by tmunson on Dec 22, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You don't remember last season?
I recall vividly a few late season injuries last year. Naturally, I equate that to a 2 point differential and the sole reason for the Poinsettia loss.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
by Loque on Dec 22, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Last season we had a spate at DE
but I thought we were otherwise pretty healthy. This year seems to be diffuse, lead runner, key receiver, starting linebacker, O-line etc. My memory is none to good. Last eyar it was the d-line hit esp hard. we moved Winn to DE. No such problems this year and amaybe the diffueseness ameliorates somewhat. TCU is perectly healthy by all accounts/
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by tmunson on Dec 22, 2009 3:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not afraid, excited...like maybe too excited...like just peed a little excited
This is a great matchup and definitely championship caliber. Two undefeateds in a quest to prove dominance, not much different from the mating rituals of big horned sheep or drunks at a dive bar. Boise has the talent, so does TCU. Boise basks in the glory of being the underdog and the heart of these young men is undeniable. Tell them they’re not worth the game and watch them throw blows like Charlie Sheen (no ref. to Blount). This game is a more exciting matchup than the NC (Bama, by a lot). The winner of this game should start next preseason as high as #2, and could have a legitimate shot at a National Championship. There’s no better way to get respect and stop the ever flowing nay-saying vomit from SEC fans and the like than by winning an NC. There’s all the reason in the world to think Boise State will treat this like the biggest game in the programs history, b/c well, it is. I think the return of 21 starters and a win in the Fiesta Bowl could be a launch to a season that most Boise fans couldn’t have even imagined five years back. Heart will win this game…can’t wait to see the Boise victory over a great opponent.
by ThePhlipinSituation on Dec 27, 2009 5:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
"we fear things in proportion to our ignorance of them" titus livius
fear resides in tcu’s house. i think, after all, everyone expects tcu to win and boise st to lose. their players and coaches are the fearful ones. fearful they won’t meet the expectations of the media pundits who have annointed them.
tcu has a had a great season and they are a great team, i have no doubt.
what they haven’t faced all season is another great team. enter bsu. mikrino
the broncos come into the game as seven-and-a-half point underdogs. what do we have to fear? we know tcu is undefeated. so is bsu. we know tcu has a spectacular offense. so do the broncos. we have reason to respect, but not fear, tcu. we know this team. they are just like us; fighting for recognition and respectability.
bronco fans have nothing to fear about the horned frogs. yes, they are good. no, they are not omnipotent. kevan
no one i know believes this will be a romp for boise st. but, realistically, we have just as good a chance of winning this game as they do. we have the number one quarterback in the nation and the highest scoring offense in college football. while our defense is not quite as good statistically as tcu, our coaching staff is brilliant. and nobody “plays up” as well as the broncos. when was the last time bsu was blown out? i can’t remember. can you?
undoubtedly, this will be the premier game of the bowl season with two undefeated, non-bcs teams battling for recognition on a national stage. two teams that earned this match up, without the automatic qualifier safety net, by defeating all comers.
scared? nah! nervous? kinda. excited? darn right! what a match! uniballer
this is “the” game; texas and alabama only think they’re playing for the national championship. go broncos!
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Dec 28, 2009 6:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good Summation, JB
This is going to be a very good game. Two excellent programs, both with a lot to prove.
Fear the Frog!
by SammyOBrien on Dec 29, 2009 11:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

















