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As much as I hate to agree...
That game should’ve been sold out.
Boise is new to having a TOP 10 team in their midst. With time, that should change.
Other schools like Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, and so on have been playing football longer than Idaho has been a state. It should be no surprise that they can sell out even when they play NMSU at home. Also they have developed national fan bases through all those years. Boise State is really only 14 years into their run, and even at that, only the last 4 or 5 years have they been even remotely on the national radar.
Nebraska didn’t fill an 80,000 seat stadium after a decade of major football. neither did Oklahoma, Florida, or any of them for that matter. It just so happens that was in 1905, and Boise State is faced with doing it now when every move is scrutinized by everybody, every moment of everyday.
Patience. In the meantime, get behind your team Boise! GO BRONCOS!
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Nov 2, 2009 7:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, I can kinda see why a game might NOT be sold out.
With as much as we’ve dominated the WAC since joining, I think a lot of the fan base is getting bored. I’m not. But that’s just me. I think the place would be more packed with more interesting, competitive games. Part of the problem could be due to the economy as well. Hell, I just bought an ‘09 Dodge Hemi 1500 for $29K when it was originally listed at $42K…all due to the economy. Being in the military, I don’t see any negative impact from a crappy economy, but the average Joe will.
And with being new (relatively so) to D1A football, the fanbase probably doesn’t know, or realize, how not selling out every game in a small stadium gives a bad statement. When/if BSU ever gets invited to a bigger or better conference, that negative perception will have some sort of impact when conference expansion(s) happen.
I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!
by BSUFlyboy on Nov 2, 2009 7:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Boise is a bandwagon town...
but no more or no less than most other towns. After 14 seasons of playing patsies, some of the fans are beginning to prove that since they know the outcome, what is the purpose of attending? What we need is a gasp, God forbid loss on the blue to wake people up. That would stick in people’s minds and keep them thinking: Maybe if I was there, they would’ve won. Or, maybe if I cheered a little louder, they would’ve pulled it out. That will motivate them to come out in droves and maybe stick around past the 3rd quarter. Ohio State loses at home from time to time and maybe that is why they got 101,000 fans v. NMSU.
Obviously you're not a golfer...
by ty_ol on Nov 2, 2009 8:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good point, except...
I don’t want BSU losing at home. Ever. LOL I can’t handle losses…I’m a sore loser.
I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!
by BSUFlyboy on Nov 2, 2009 8:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm ok with a loss on the Blue.
But not to the type of teams that are willing to play on the Blue.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
by Loque on Nov 2, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do think moving to a more competitive conference is a must.
Especially for further growth of the program.
Another reason to quit scheduling FCS opponents for home games.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Nov 2, 2009 8:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tradition
I think I’ve mentioned this before in another post. I would like someone like Kevan, Mikrino, Loque, FFBSU, Intern, or someone else who has the football knowledge and writing skill to creatively compare the rise of Bronco football to that of any of the other major powerhouses. Regardless of the findings, I think one would be hard pressed to find another program that has risen as fast and high as the Broncos. By all measurements Boise State shouldn’t be where they are. Given the local demographics, school attendance, geographical location, local and national economics, and other factors, no one could give cause for what Boise State has accomplished. That doesn’t mean BSU’s success wasn’t planned. The University’s mission statement is pretty clear in it’s intent to improve overall by using the success of it’s athletics and have identified Football as the juggernaut of that drive. I think some of the growing pains of that success is that given the time that it has been accomplished in, we haven’t developed the intangibles of tradition that go along with it. I also think that a lot of tradition comes out of what we all fear, losses.
While we have “The Blue”, we don’t have hundred year old hedges. We have established the hammer, but we don’t have a rock, turtle, light switch, or anything else that people have been touching for 50+ years. We have the Vandals to hate, but compared to other programs the rivalry is still in it’s infancy.
We also don’t have a rabid student section or alumni base that sees to the establishment and keeping of tradition. The very nature of BSU as a university keeps this from happening at very least quickly. BSU isn’t a destination school that people seek out. It’s matriculation doesn’t dictate excellent achievement, but instead a base off which to jump to higher goals. Given time, this will change and the tradition will come with it.
Was I surprised that the game on Saturday wasn’t sold out? Yes. I just think it reflects the misunderstanding that what we have as fans in BSU. For those who have seen a game at Beaver Stadium, The Big House, The Shoe, College Station, Death Valley, or the Swamp, they would know that we are light years away from being a college town. Time will bring tradition, and we as fans are going to have to culture the definition of that special experience you notice at the bigger venues.
The other factor is competition. We simply have to roll the dice and schedule bigger talent to attract the masses. I am a proponent of being THE wrecking ball that brings down the BCS, but I know that if we were in the MWC, home games would be sold out. Think about BYU vs BSU every year. Wouldn’t take long before a nickname would stick to that one.
Adversity breeds memories, memories breed tradition. That’s all I am going to say because we are in the middle of a season.
Get em’ Broncs…
by Bankssz on Nov 2, 2009 9:09 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd!
And I agree with your sentiment. It will take time to establish those types of things. Boise State’s rise has been meteoric since 2000. I think that plays part in the backlash from other programs and even media personalities. It’s that, “You can’t have what you haven’t earned.” mentality among the rest of the established powers. Which is understandable to an extent.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Nov 2, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a great write up that you need to read. By a Georgia fan no less.
He really does a great job at putting it in perspective.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Nov 2, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A great read!
Kevan and the Georgia dude wrote some good stuff there.
"I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass."
by Belexes on Nov 2, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Mikrino
I knew somebody else could put it in verbiage better than I. That has to be the most objective Georgia fan I’ve ever read. I honestly cringe more often than not when I read some BSU fans perspective of respect. While we are beyond begging for scraps we still aren’t sitting at the “high table”. There is no doubt that BSU can play with anyone, AND WIN, on any given day. However, our conference and scheduling quite simply begs the question and lets every stupid Mark May and his retinue of heads give a stupid answer. I would rather see us strategically schedule more BCS teams and risk losing than let the opportunity for idiots to interject.
My platoon has a motto going into our annual tank qualification table: “Leave no doubt.” That’s right there behind “Semper Gumby.”
by Bankssz on Nov 2, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
boise state does play va. tech at fed ex field next year.
let’s hope boise state can put the beatdown on the hokies.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 2, 2009 10:10 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
It probably won't matter by the end of the season
Va Tech will naturally be better and everyone would assume we’d lose a rematch by that point.
by Nick Kroes on Nov 2, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The top non-AQ team will play USC in the Fiesta Bowl.
I see no other way the BCS selections might happen.
Unless Arizona takes down USC.
BCS Evolution -- Punctuating the Equilibrium - twitter
by utesfan100 on Nov 2, 2009 10:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Or Texas trips up somewhere
NOT!
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
by Loque on Nov 2, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if that happens we have tcu vs usc in the fiesta. i like that if it happens.
i could see usc using two or maybe three of their qb’s in that game. tcu would win too 24 -17.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 2, 2009 11:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
What’s the site that compares ballots in the AP poll? I can’t remember it, and can’t find it with a search engine.
I should have bookmarked it.
by Egnowit on Nov 2, 2009 12:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Gads...
If angry, Adrian Peterson-esque runs are how Doug Martin recupes a leg injury…I’d hate to see how he gets over a cold.
by Drew Roberts on Nov 2, 2009 4:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Not a football town.
As of the 2008 Census Bureau estimates, Boise’s population was 205,314 with a metropolitan area estimated to have 587,689 inhabitants, by far the most populous metropolitan area in Idaho. — says Wiki
So, because we can’t fill a stadium in which it’s maximum capacity is 16.8% of the whole population of metropolitan Boise and 5.9% of the surrounding area, we’re not a football town.
I doubt that the maximum capacity of larger football towns even graze 1% of the population of the cities they reside in/near.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
by Loque on Nov 2, 2009 8:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nebraska
Nebraska’s population is about 1.7 million, while Idaho’s is 1.5. Memorial Stadium seats over 80,000. According to huskers.com, Memorial Stadium has been home to an NCAA-record 297 consecutive sellouts entering the 2009 season. That is football country.
Look, there’s really no shame to Boise St.‘s attendance problems (although it is a shame). In 1999, I attended a game at the Coliseum against (I think) Oregon State. USC sucked, and there was no problem getting a ticket. The stadium was nowhere near capacity. LA’s not going to visit a bad neighborhood to cheer on a bad team. Boise isn’t going to come out for an easy win against a small program.
by marktgarten on Nov 2, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't think this is an issue
Fans have shown that they will turn out for quality competition. Once Boise State moves to a better conference and/or schedule better non conference opponents, fans will show up.
by Nick Kroes on Nov 2, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Knoxville had a total population of 173,890; the July 2007 estimated population was 183,546. Knoxville is the principal city of the Knoxville Metropolitan Statistical Area with a metro population of 655,400 -WikiNeyland Stadium peaked at an official maximum capacity of 104,079 seats. Capacity was reduced to 102,037 with the addition of the new East Club seats in 2006. Due to the addition of the new West Club seats in 2009, the capacity currently stands at 100,011 -Wiki
I attended #4 Florida vs. Tennesee in 2008. Game attendance; 108,890.
The difference?
1. It opened in 1921. It’s original capacity: 3,200 There have been 16 expansions over 79 years.
2. Go two hours in any direction from Boise and what will you find? Desert, sagebrush, antelope?
Two hours in any direction from Knoxville? Lexington (260k), Chattanooga(169k) , Nashville(596k), Charlotte, NC(687k)
Nebraska- 1st year of football; 1890, coincidentally also Idaho’s first year of Statehood.
Memorial Stadium opened in 1923 with an opening capacity of 31,080, nine years before Boise Junior College started holding classes.
We’re not comparing apples to apples here guys.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree...
Except Nashville is 3 hours. lol. My bro lives in Tennessee. He tells me people will make day trips to Knoxville just for games. Everytime I visit all I see is Tennessee orange and big "T"s (except last year lol). They have much bigger population than Idaho. Also, southerns love their state. It’s mostly like why the Titans are Tennessee and not Nashville.
I love the colors Orange and Blue. Go Broncos!!! Go Titans!!!
by TitanBronco on Nov 4, 2009 6:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me, the further east and south you go the bigger football gets, on any level.
I’m a Boise native. I played football at South Junior High. I was senior at Elko High School when Timmy Gilligan was freshman, and I attended Boise State.
My five year old entered kindergarten this fall. He also played his 1st year of tackle football. Full pads, helmets, everything. 200-300 people attended every game.
my eight year old played his 3rd year of football, I helped coach. We ran a spread/read option offense. We had a 2pt. conversion named “Boise Left”. We’re talking 8 and 9 year old boys here.
Pop Warner football begins at what age in Boise? 10? 12?
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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