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Boise State depth chart versus Idaho: Who will take McClellin's place if he can't go?

As Boise State prepares for the biggest rivalry game in years against the Vandals, the Broncos have more questions than usual as it relates to the roster. Who will take Shea McClellin's place if he can't go? Will Doug Martin get more carries? What shake-ups might be in store for the O-line? Is Jimmy Pavel gaining on Kyle Brotzman?

Join me after the jump as I tackle some of those questions and expound on others, and add your own commentary in the comments. See you there.

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Boise State offense

Boise State defense

Z - 2 Austin Pettis 6-3 201 Jr.
20 Mitch Burroughs 5-9 188 Fr.

X - 4 Titus Young 5-11 170 Jr.
3 Chris Potter 5-9 161 Fr.

H - 89 Tyler Shoemaker 6-1 207 So.
34 Kirby Moore 6-2 196 Fr.

LT - 73 Nate Potter 6-6 293 So.
72 Matt Slater 6-4 290 Jr.

LG - 59 Will Lawrence 6-2 293 Jr.
61 Joe Kellogg 6-2 305 Fr.

C - 66 Thomas Byrd 5-11 284 So.
79 Bronson Durrant 6-3 266 Fr.

RG - 62 Kevin Sapien 6-4 286 Jr.
64 Brenel Myers 6-2 267 Fr.

RT - 57 Garrett Pendergast 6-4 271 So.
54 Michael Ames 6-4 281 Fr.

TE - 85 Tommy Gallarda 6-5 249 Jr.
80 Kyle Efaw 6-4 229 So.

QB - 11 Kellen Moore 6-0 187 So.
7 Mike Coughlin 6-5 212 Jr.
15 Joe Southwick 6-1 182 Fr.

RB - 27 Jeremy Avery 5-9 173 Jr.
22 Doug Martin 5-9 201 So.

FB - 40 Richie Brockel 6-2 240 Sr.
47 Dan Paul 6-0 241 So.

E - 98 Ryan Winterswyk 6-4 263 Jr.

94 Byron Hout 6-0 241 So.

T - 90 Billy Winn 6-4 288 So.
95 Darren Koontz 6-3 254 Fr.

N - 97 Chase Baker 6-1 296 So.
69 Michael Atkinson 6-0 332 Fr.
91 Greg Grimes 6-0 271 Fr.

SE - 92 Shea McClellin 6-3 262 So.
96 Jarrell Root 6-3 259 So.

MIKE- 45 Daron Mackey 5-11 233 Jr.
52 Derrell Acrey 6-1 235 Jr..
or 25 Hunter White 5-11 224 So.

WILL- 36 Aaron Tevis 6-3 228 So.
or 48 J.C. Percy 6-0 214 Fr.
25 Hunter White 5-11 224 So.

S 23 Jeron Johnson 5-11 194 Jr.
30 Travis Stanaway 5-11 188 So.

S 8 George Iloka 6-3 207 So.
16 Cedric Febis 6-3 197 So.

N 17 Winston Venable 5-11 223 Jr.
5 Jason Robinson 5-11 194 Jr.

CB 1 Kyle Wilson 5-10 186 Sr.
14 Garcia Day 6-1 204 Sr.
or 31 Antwon Murray 5-11 177 So.

CB 13 Brandyn Thompson 5-10 180 Jr.
10 Jerrell Gavins 5-9 171 So.

Kickers

Returners

PK - 35 Kyle Brotzman 5-10 201 Jr.

84 Jimmy Pavel 5-9 212 Fr.

KO - 35 Kyle Brotzman 5-10 201 Jr.
84 Jimmy Pavel 5-9 212 Fr.

HD - 2 Austin Pettis 6-3 201 Jr.
46 Michael Choate 6-0 190 Sr.

P - 35 Kyle Brotzman 5-10 201 Jr.
49 Brad Elkin 6-2 201 Jr.

SNP - 44 Chris Roberson 6-0 222 Fr.
51 James Crawford 6-1 207 Fr.


KR - 4 Titus Young 5-11 170 Jr.
22 Doug Martin 5-9 201 So.

PR - 1 Kyle Wilson 5-10 186 Sr.
3 Chris Potter 5-9 161 Fr.

 

Disclaimer: Depth charts mean as much as you want them to mean. Keep in mind that things change over the course of a game week and that game situations, injuries, and performance will render some of this depth chart moot. Still, it's fun to speculate ... with hyperbole! 

Note to the disclaimer: Boise State's depth chart has not yet been made available to the public. You're looking at last week's version. Post will be updated when this week's is out. It's out.

Shea McClellin's replacement? Depth chart says Jarrell Root, on-field performance says Byron Hout

With McClellin's status up in the air due to an arm injury suffered against LaTech, Boise State may be forced to dip into the second teamers against Idaho. And what will they find when they do? Pain!

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Jarrell Root and Byron Hout are perfectly capable replacements for McClellin as they've been subbing in and out regularly with first teamers all season long. In fact, Root used to be a first teamer. So which DE would fill in for McClellin in the starting lineup on Saturday?

  • Root, obviously. The depth chart lists Root as McClellin's backup and Hout as the man behind Winterswyk.
  • No, it's Hout. If the decision comes down to who is playing better, Hout seems to have had the better run of things lately, getting praise from the coaching staff for his performance last week. In fact, the only reason I couldn't see Hout getting the start is if the depth chart positions really do mean something. Is a Right DE really that different from a Left DE? I'm pretty sure we're not talking about wide receiver specialization here.

If I had to choose, I'd give the nod to Hout. Who would you pick?

One other note: If McClellin can't go, the four-man DE rotation will be down to three. Who steps up into the fourth spot? In the past, it has been redshirt freshman Zach Gholson, whose Kentucky waterfall deserves more camera time anyway. I'd expect to see Gholson if need be, although I'd love for Billy Winn to spend some time at DE.

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Will Jeremy Avery learn to share? Doug Martin needs his carries

Avery surprised everyone by hogging 25 of Boise State's 31 rush attempts on Friday night in Louisiana. Before the game, there was talk of a three-RB committee consisting of Avery, Martin, and Matt Kaiserman. After the game, there was conspiracy theories about why so much Avery and why so little everyone else.

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Where do you stand on Jeremy Avery? It was fascinating reading the gamethread comments as commenters grew more and more antsy with every Avery two-yard rush. Let's be honest. The running game was not working in the first half. How much of that was Avery's fault?

I am as guilty as anyone at questioning Avery's running ability this season. At times, I have felt that Avery was the new Ian Johnson and D.J. Harper, Doug Martin, and Matt Kaiserman were the new Jeremy Avery. The roles in the offense this season have been fascinating to watch. I was more impressed with Avery following Louisiana Tech than I was at almost any other time this season. Take away his 44-yard TD against the Bulldogs and Avery still has over 100 yards on 24 carries. That's not bad at all.

Having said that, I sure would like to see more Doug Martin. Who's with me?

Offensive line could play musical chairs on Saturday

Bryan Harsin hinted at a change along the offensive line to kick start the running game this week. Shall we speculate?

Possible lineups:

Lawrence and Byrd remain the only two linemen to have started every game for the Broncos this season. Might their streak end? Lawrence was the one blown up on the Kellen Moore interception, and he has missed his fair share of blocks in recent weeks. Other positions to look at are at the tackles where Garrett Pendergast has struggled at times. A better question than who might line up on the offensive line is who might stay. Thomas Byrd might be the only sure thing, although I'd imagine that Sapien and Potter are safe, too.

Does anyone still have faith in Kyle Brotzman?

I hate to even ask the question, but given Brotzman's recent struggles in the kicking game, I'm not sure any Bronco fan feels comfortable with him attempting FGs any more. Does your lack of faith extend only to kicks from the left hash? Or are you wholly unbelieving at this point?

Coach Pete promised a reevaluation of FG kicking from the left hash going forward, so we'll see what that means on Saturday. I doubt that Jimmy Pavel will see the field in those situations as the decision will probably come down to a Brotzman attempt or a fourth down conversion. I'd lean toward the latter at this point.

Here's to Chris Potter

I thought I should give extra kudos to Chris Potter for his pancake block on Jeremy Avery's 44-yard TD run last week. The play Avery scored on was a toss sweep to the right that has not worked well for Avery pretty much all season. The difference in the play was Potter's initial block (helped by Brockel downfield, solid line blocking, and Avery making people miss). He hasn't added much to the offense in terms of catching the ball this season, but that block alone makes his season a success in my opinion.

Michael Atkinson switches numbers because his ankle told him so

Personally, I think that #99 is one of the greatest jersey numbers that a player can have. Why Atkinson would want #69 over #99 is beyond me. Which one would you prefer?

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Well that blows my theory that the Broncos were going to line him up in the backfield and instead of using him as a blocker toss to him(unless he changes jerseys before he goes in). Kaiserman had -2 yards: I dont know if that was his fault but may explain Jeremy’s role. I suffer from the same anti-Jere-vitis and so do several guys who watch games with me. It may just simply boil down to yards after contact; which with him is mostly none. If he gets air he’s at least ok, often good, occassionally great. I think we may intuitively sense that with our O-line we need a break-tackle back and he aint it. Much grist for thought in your post.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Nov 11, 2009 8:23 AM PST reply actions  

College rules...

are a little different than NFL. From my understanding, most all numbers are eligible for any position. However, O-linemen are required to wear 50-79. Those lineman are not eligible to catch a pass, but can carry or receive a lateral, depending where they line up at scrimmage So, #69 does dot exclude Bacon from carrying or blocking from the backfield, especially from a “full house” backfield. Ex: Tharp tossed that lateral TD to Clady (#79) in 2007, which was called back for holding, not ineligibility.

That is my interpretation and I cannot substantiate.

Obviously you're not a golfer...

by ty_ol on Nov 11, 2009 8:55 AM PST reply actions  

My understanding

in college football 90’s are eligible to catch a pass(Shouman was 91; no true in pros). With #99 he could go in and line up anywhere and catch a forward pass. He ha sgood hands and I dont anyone ahs scouted his hs film to notice. You see tha tbig boy line up and you think blocker or if they saw scrimmage from last spring maybe run. BY “toss” I mean forward pass. waht I say doesnt change the thrust of your comment or contradict it.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Nov 11, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

The rulebook says that anyone wearing 50-79 cannot catch a forward pass (on page 106). At least, that’s my interpretation of it. I think ty_ol might be right about the laterals, but for now it looks like Atkinson’s receiving career is on hold.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Nov 11, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Bacon wore 65

in spring ball. So when he want for 99 my little mind said ah ha they’re going to line him in the backfield with avery. Opp team will think power run/sweep style strong side. Or the craftier more focused and better prepared team will thinks watch for a handoff to the big boy a la spring scrimmage that we scouted bc we had a twitter a**hole in the stands. Play starts Bacon lears out in th eflat fake ptich/ho to Avery. But lo! KM pulls up sees all the db’s lb’s setting up to nail avery and tosses down the sideline to almost completely wide open Bacon who then drags some poor safety 25 yards while the latter hangs on like Capt. Ahab to Moby Dick.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Nov 11, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't stop dreaming, munson

It will happen someday.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Nov 11, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahaha..

thats great. how much? haha

by summitkopp on Nov 11, 2009 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

REC'D

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by OBNUG Intern on Nov 11, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I would totally buy that shirt

If it wasn’t for the naked Vandals on the back.

"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."

by JRig on Nov 11, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, some thoughts on Jeremy Avery.

Although Jeremy has had some great games in his 2 1/2 year career at BSU, last year against Idaho was,in my opinion, his biggest game. He was running over and through peole. He is a YAC runner and a guy that can get to the edge, make people miss, and go 70 yards untouched. Having said that I believe he is a guy who loves contact and can get yards after it, he needs to get to he outside more often, stretch playes, pitch playes, something to get this explosive kid the ball away from the large group of 300 pound men called lineman.
And can someone tell me why I’m helping my Vandal friends get tickets to this game?

by BSUTHROWBALLFOREVER on Nov 11, 2009 9:32 AM PST reply actions  

So you can rub it in their faces!
And can someone tell me why I’m helping my Vandal friends get tickets to this game?

Catch me on the BroncoNation Podcast!

by OBNUG Intern on Nov 11, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

He is a YAC runner and a guy that can get to the edge, make people miss, and go 70 yards untouched.

I’ve seen the 70 yards untouched. I haven’t seen the rest as much as I thought, and maybe that’s why there is that unsettled feeling. Do you think he’s been up to his potential with YAC, making people miss, and getting to the edge?

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Nov 11, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

agree KL

YAC? I msut’ve missed something

tvmunson

by tmunson on Nov 11, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Highlights....

I just did some highlight searching to see all kinds of runs with Jeremy Avery running over people. I don’t think he has been as powerfull a runner as he was last year. But no, as good as he has been, he is not living up to his potential. But I still love the energy he brings.

by BSUTHROWBALLFOREVER on Nov 11, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Does anyone know anything..

about a press conference about the Stadium. I think Gene Bleymaier was supposed to do it. i thought it was today. i could be wrong. it was about facilities i know that. please let me know i cant find anything on the internet. i gave up.

by summitkopp on Nov 11, 2009 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah I heard that too

Yesterday on IST they mentioned that…and they said it would be today sometime.

by the collinator on Nov 11, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

IST must be the only place that reported it. Newspapers and such have been quiet.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Nov 11, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Brotzman
Does anyone still have faith in Kyle Brotzman?

I was reading the Scott Slant earlier and this came up.

This Day In Sports…November 11, 2006:
 
The closest call of the regular season for undefeated Boise State, as Anthony Montgomery boots a 37-yard field goal on the final play of the game to beat San Jose State, 23-20.

If this situation comes up for Brotzman this season, is any of us going to have faith in him? I certainly don’t feel comfortable with Brotzman’s foot to win a game, no matter the hash.

The good part is we won’t have to worry about such a situation against Idaho since we’ll beat the crap out of them!!!

"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."

by JRig on Nov 11, 2009 11:46 AM PST reply actions  

Would any of us have faith in him? Count me out. I’d be pulling for him, but I’d be mentally preparing for overtime just in case.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Nov 11, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

My Observations, For What It's Worth

It’s kinda funny, Avery has the stats to prove he’s getting the job done, but like many of you, I feel he isn’t at 100% this year. I remember him moving defenders backwards last year and marveled at how strong he was for his size. This year, even though he is good for a big run or two every game, I keep seeing him get to the outside, only to run back inside where the congestion is. He runs to the tackler, instead of away from them. If he is Larry Csonka, that’s fine, but at 170 lbs. Avery needs to be more elusive. Still, I love the kid and he is a darned good RB.
  I’m with you, Kevan, I want more Doug Martin. I get excited every time Martin packs the ball. Martin gets shut down for no gain as much as anyone, but you always have the feeling he will break the next run … and he usually does. He is as close to the perfect RB type, I’ve seen on the Bronco’s. I’d love to see more screen passes and pitch outs to Martin.
 I can’t really fault the RBs, as much as I do the O-line. After almost two years together, they have only marginally improved their run blocking. When you consider the O-line’s inability to protect the QB on many pass plays, you have to wonder about how well the coaching is at that position. I know they could be worse, but I’m concerned about them not becoming better with experience.
  Just my observations, and I don’t mean to criticize anyone. That would be stupid of me, considering how young and how undefeated the Broncos are. It’s just that, even with all the success the Broncos are having, they somehow leave us fans hungry for a more complete and dominating game from them, because we all know they are even better than they are showing.

by TitoRay on Nov 11, 2009 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

When you consider the O-line’s inability to protect the QB on many pass plays, you have to wonder about how well the coaching is at that position.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Boise State lose O-line coach Sean Kugler after the Fiesta Bowl season? That was kind of the peak of the offensive line in my opinion. I’ve been thinking about writing a post about that, but I haven’t got the courage yet. Like you, Tito Ray, I’m very nervous to second-guess any coaching staff, especially one as accomplished and brilliant as BSU’s.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Nov 11, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

well

if its a short-yardage field goal from the left hash, I say Pavel. If its a long-yardage one, its still gotta be Brotzman and/or a conversion and/or a punt to pin them behind the 10.

by killtacular on Nov 11, 2009 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

Couldnt' add a word

but I will. Tito I think what we’re all sensing is to really be a top 10 team you gotta have the dependable 3.5/5yard run game. We dont’. everyhting else is there. “complete” was the word you used and its perfect. Broncos, at least to this point,look to be incomplete.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Nov 11, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

A couple thoughts..

Offensive Line – I would LOVE to see some changes here. Potter has been playing very well, I think he’s safe. Sapien & Byrd have been pretty good too. Pendergast has been struggling the last couple weeks – wouldnt mind seeing a change there. Lastly, I’ve been waiting for a few weeks to hear Will Lawrence has lost his starting spot. He’s out of position all the time & completely forgets to block..

Kicking game – I have NO faith in Brotz from the left hash. If we have to, Im ready to let Jimmy Pavel start his Bronco career. However, Im not completely opposed to just going for it in some situations.

by Drofdarb23 on Nov 11, 2009 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

What do you think has happened to Lawrence?

He was perhaps the Broncos’ best offensive lineman at the midway point.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Nov 11, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Competition

Maybe the extra depth has created healthier competition and everyone is stepping their game up.

by Bankssz on Nov 11, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Im not really sure..

For whatever reason, sometimes he seems to “zone out” our something. Sometimes he doesn’t fire off the ball or sometimes he’s running down field to block (on a screen or something) and he just stops. It isnt something he does every play, but it happens at least once or twice in the game. Those blown assignments are costly.

by Drofdarb23 on Nov 12, 2009 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Someone said it was his blown assignment

that ended up with a guy in KM’s lap that led to the pick that led to the td that got LT back in the game. Emphsizes your point.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Nov 12, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

And then after the play he claps his hands in frustration and hangs his head

I’ve seen that a lot lately.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Nov 12, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Oline

The 06 and 07 Offensive line were so good and now all of them are gone. Starting from scratch with young guys may take some time. If only we had Kellen with the old Oline, can you imagine???

by P Townfootball is BSU *** on Nov 11, 2009 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

WADR(my new acronym for with all due respect-I guess it doesn save much time if i have ot explain it)

I dont think our O-line is quite as good at “protecting” KM as one migth think. His super quick release, excellent reads and ice-cold bloodlines composure make our O-line look good. Opposite of what conventionally occurs-qb amking up for O-line “weakness”;dont mean to disparage O-line though.

tvmunson

by tmunson on Nov 12, 2009 7:44 AM PST reply actions  

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