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Would you boo the Broncos?

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Boise State is an undefeated, Top Ten team three years removed from a BCS win and in position to capture its seventh conference championship in eight seasons. What would it take for you to boo the Broncos? Is it heresy to even think of booing? After the jump, let's discuss.

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The booing paradox comes courtesy of a Dustin Lapray sonnet-turned-newspaper column following last week's UC Davis game. In it, Lapray recounted moments in the fourth quarter where boos could be heard from the sparse Boise State crowd. Needless to say, it was cause for great consternation in Lapray's imaginary Dead Poets Society.

Two instances in the fourth quarter actually emitted boos from the crowd, struggling with nasty conditions and the fact that their Broncos were not performing to the outlandish standards now expected of them...

My question: How can a Bronco fan boo an undefeated, Top 10 team, slugging it out in a rain-lashed struggle?

I wasn't able to hear the booing on Saturday night, but I would assume that some it might have come late in the fourth quarter with the Broncos leading by 11 and being forced to punt after a three-and-out that went "Jeremy Avery one-yard rush," "Kellen Moore sack," and "Kellen Moore dropped interception." No doubt there might have been boos on fumbled snaps or any of the nine accepted penalties against the Broncos.

But does that make booing acceptable? And more to the point: Would you or have you booed the Broncos?

The debate could be a good one because I do not think there is a right or wrong answer. Can you convince me otherwise? Booing means something different to every person. To one man, booing is a temporary release of frustration. To another, booing is a cardinal sin of faithful fandom. Here are just a few ways to look at it.

Justifications for booing

  • Lack of effort. This is even more apparent when the difference between the skill level of the teams is greater. Playing down to an opponent would fall into this category.
  • Poor play-calling. Or, rather, play-calling that you think should be different.
  • Mental mistakes (dumb penalties and egregious turnovers).
  • Bad clock management. This one is true especially at the end of games/halves or when teams burn timeouts in rapid succession.
  • Failed expectations. Lapray hinted at this in his column, referring to the expectations that Bronco fans have as "outlandish." This could also apply to a preseason favorite who is mired in a lost season (a la Nevada a couple weeks ago).
  • Lack of value. Football games are expensive, and many people expect  to get their money's worth.

  • A combination of any of the above. As reasons to boo mount, more and more people give in. If you weren't going to boo a bad play call, you might boo a bad play call followed by a fumbled snap followed by an unnecessary timeout.

Justifications against booing

  • Boise State is a great team. As such, should you only boo bad teams?
  • Boise State has given its fans so much success and happiness over the past decade. From an outsider's perspective, it seems petty to boo a team as successful as the Broncos.
  • Boise State fans have nothing to complain about. Again, look at the big picture.
  • Never boo a college athlete. This one is probably a matter of personal belief. I do know several people who steadfastly believe that booing college kids is completely uncalled for.

Situations

How about a couple of "what ifs"? Since this debate is really about whether booing a successful team like the Broncos is ever okay, imagine that each of these examples below happened next week against Tulsa. Boise State is ranked No. 6 and heavily favored over the Golden Hurricane.

Situation #1: First quarter, Boise State has the ball at the Tulsa 35 yard line after driving from their own 12. Kellen Moore is 5-for-5 on the drive for 48 yards. Jeremy Avery has 5 yards on 5 carries.

On first down, Boise State calls a running play to Avery that loses one yard. On second down, Boise State runs the option with Kellen Moore, who keeps it for three yards. On third down, Boise State runs a sweep with Avery from the shotgun for no gain.

Would you boo? What if it were a different quarter? What if the score were different?

Situation #2: Third quarter, Boise State leads Tulsa 24-14. Broncos are driving on their opening possession of the second half with the ball first and goal from the Tulsa 9 yard line. Thomas Byrd and Kellen Moore fumble the QB-center exchange and Tulsa recovers. It is the second botched snap of the game and the first that the Golden Hurricane has recovered.

Would you boo? What if the score were different? What if the Broncos had already lost a fumble on a bad snap?

Situation #3: You paid $40.00 for a ticket to the Tulsa game and $300.00 on travel and lodging to get to the game. Boise State leads Tulsa 17-14 in the fourth quarter with both BSU TDs coming from defense and special teams and Tulsa having just missed on several opportunities to add to their point total. Boise State's offense goes three-and-out for the sixth time of the night.

Would you boo? What if the Broncos were behind? What if you drove to the game? What if your ticket was $75? What if it was $12?

Situation #4: Fourth quarter, Boise State leads Tulsa 24-14. Kyle Brotzman misses his third field goal of the game.

Would you boo?

Conclusions

Keep in mind, there is not necessarily a right or wrong answer to the question of booing. I'm just curious what Bronco fans think and how they would act in certain situations.

For me, I'm not much of a booer, partly because I'm a quiet guy and partly because I take my frustration out in other ways. I choose to internalize a lot of my gameday frustration and hope it goes away by the time the Broncos take their 35-point lead in the fourth quarter. Is it healthy? Probably not. Does it always work? So far this year only twice.

One thing's for sure; I don't get too upset at circumstances that the Broncos cannot change. For example, if Brad Elkin was the team's only option at punter and he was terrible, I wouldn't boo Elkin because my booing would be pointless. It's not like the Broncos could switch to a different kicker.

I tend to only voice my frustration at penalty calls or mistakes that the team makes over and over again. On occasion, I have found myself getting horribly upset at quarterbacks who are struggling and missing wide open receivers. I'm not sure why I'm this way, but I was very close to booing/strangling Taylor Tharp at Washington. On a happier note, one of my greatest pet peeves in life is poor clock management, so I'm fortunate to cheer for a team with a genius for a head coach.

Even when I do get upset, though, my booing is more like a hearty "Come on!" In fact, that's exactly what it is. I "Come on!" rather than boo, and I add inflection and tone to those two words in order to fit any situation.

Now it's your turn. What would it take for you to boo the Broncos? How would you react to the situations above? What are your thoughts on booing in general? I can't wait to hear your perspectives.

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And for the record ...

Situation #1: “Come on!”
Situation #2: Confusion rather than frustration.
Situation #3: It would depend on how the offense was struggling. If I perceived it to be self-inflicted wounds, I might “Come on.” Otherwise, I would just be nervous.
Situation #4: I’d quietly stew and secretly hope the game didn’t come down to a field goal.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Oct 7, 2009 7:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm a "come on!" guy too

That graduates to “Are you kidding me?”
Then “SERIOUSLY!!”
Then “What the $&@! is going on?!”

I don’t think I would ever boo the Broncos directly for anything. But I do get frustrated with uncharacteristic play when it occurs.

Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)

by Mikrino on Oct 7, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perspective

I don’t agree with booing one’s own team or taunting the other. Remember these kids(which is what they are) are risking life and limb to entertain us for not a lot of direct compensation. All the ones I know who played at this level have at least some nagging injury, and a few have severe ones. They were doing 2 a days in the hot August sun when we were drinking margaritas. Their families will likely be in attendance and suffer for their sons when a crowd acts this way. As for the other team, if the game is to be worth winning your opponents must give it their best. Sometimes, this will be better than ours’. When it isn’t, show some class(I.e. no rubbing it in with taunts of “overrated”).

by tmunson on Oct 7, 2009 8:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I was booing ... along with others

When Kellen Moore threw away a TD pass at the feet a BSU received and UCD defender in the North endzone.. where we thought he could at least try to run in.

A little guilt about it? Yes. But this was at the end of us seeing serious under-performance. Vanilla offense shouldn’t sell tickets. Next FCS team the Broncos get, I’m not going.

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Oct 7, 2009 8:14 AM PDT reply actions  

For the record.

I only recall that one time we were booing specifically at the Broncos. The other times was the crowd booing the refs on pass interference calls (when it was quite obvious we were pass interfering).

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Oct 7, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha thats funny

Just before I hit “POST” yours popped up.

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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 7, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the heads up on when the booing was the loudest. Watching on TV, I wouldn’t have thought that play was very booable, but it’s obviously different when you’re in the stadium.

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Oct 7, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

reading my last statement.

Have I converted to a fair weather fan?! NOOOOOOO! I may as well start cheering for the Vandal now… eww.

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Oct 7, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The biggest BOO that I heard

was when they were inside the 5 or 10 (it was kinda hard to tell, cuz they were on the North side of the field and I was in the SEZ) it was 3rd down, Kellen rolled to the right looking for an open receiver, finding none tossed the ball out of bounds instead of running straight ahead and diving into the end zone himself. Although there was a defender nearby, it seemed like he would have been able to at least have hit the marker on the way out of bounds. Then came the boo’s. I don’t recall actually booing, I was shocked and most likely let out my own “Come on!”. In fact I do recall using that exclamation quite often during the game. Especially when it started to rain for the second time.

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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 7, 2009 8:24 AM PDT reply actions  

I was droppin' mad 'boos' on the refs

Not that we didn’t deserve some of the P.I. calls, but they were letting the Aggies get away with the exact same “infractions” they’d called the Broncos for just moments earlier.

I would’ve booed the weather, too but my lips were starting to become numb.

by Drew Roberts on Oct 7, 2009 8:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Furthermore...

Our good friend Conan O’brien has a handy song for reference on this matter:

Yay Boo, Yay Boo
It’s lots of fun to do
If you like it holler ‘Yay"
If you don’t you holler “Boo”

Such wisdom.

by Drew Roberts on Oct 7, 2009 8:34 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I saw that last night

Awesome

"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."

by JRig on Oct 7, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Boooooooo!

I think the only time I ever boo at football games in general is at officiating and even then it has to be a very bad call. As a former high school player I understand there is a lot of time, effort and game planning that goes into each week. I can only imagin how a college team prepares. I think that the average fan doesn’t understand that coaches don’t just close their eyes to choose a play. There are usually “packages” of plays that they prepare prior to games that they think will best exploit the oppositions defense. Sometimes those plays work and sometimes they look like they have no idea what the hell is going on. I would never boo play call as I am sure that there is no way that I could do any better. And we need to keep in mind that the other team is always going to give BSU their best shot. Its not like teams are just going to lay down and roll over for us. I think booing your team out of frustration shows just how little you know. Most fans have no idea what it is like to play infront of 30,000+ people. I always assume the players are doing their best and that the coaches will put the best possible team on the field. I think in general we have been spoiled as a fan base and we should appreciate what we have and not take the broncos for granted.

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by forseyfan36 on Oct 7, 2009 8:37 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh boy...a hooligan's perspective...

I think there are situations I would boo. #3 would be the most likely to get a boo from me. I didn’t boo at the game Saturday, I wasn’t shocked to hear them and I thought they might get louder. I was very frustrated. For those of you who think these players don’t get compensation your an idiot. Free College degree, $15-$20 an hour part time jobs that you just have to turn in your time card to get paid. I would suit up in the heat of summer for two-a-days and work my butt off in the cold to not have to pay for school. Now I think Booing is pointless at a football game unless there are many people doing it, If the players and coaches can’t hear your frustration then it serves no purpose. Basketball however I can sit right next to the players and I have yelled many times at our player " Make your free throws scholorship" or “You go to school for free to play better than this” Are these not true statements?

by BSUTHROWBALLFOREVER on Oct 7, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

I doubt booing

will increase anyone’s free throw percentage.

by marktgarten on Oct 7, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not a fan of booing your own team. I’ve never done it myself. However, that doesn’t mean I’m completely against it. If there was a moment I would have boo’d, it was when KM should have tried running into the end zone.

"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."

by JRig on Oct 7, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

In retrospect

the fans booing was just a light precursor to what the coaches were going to do to the players. I think over-excessive booing is just classless — ie. what I foresee Florida State fans doing to coach Bobby Bowden later this year. The Broncos really have given us fans so much, but I wouldn’t think it too harsh for us to remind them what level of success we’re used to. I’m sure they felt it themselves on the field Saturday night, and to get it from the fans was, hopefully, just another way to solidify how important it is for the players to work harder this week.

Then again, Coach Pete is giving them 2 days off as well. I suppose it is around mid-terms.

"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale

by Loque on Oct 7, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

you said boo.

I don’t boo in any sense for much the same reason as I feel silly typing boo. I don’t boo because I am a 28 year old man with a family and a professional career. I don’t boo because I’m up there in the stands in everything just short of a snuggy and they are down there fighting the good fight. So besides the belief that “booing” a collegiate football team is a bit beneath my age and station, Since ‘96 when my Dad took me to my first game, the Broncos have never given me anything to “boo” at. One of the huge reasons why I am a Bronco fan is because the special chemistry the fans have with the team. Call it Idaho quality of life, blue collar ethics, and speak softly/ carry a big stick mentality combined with the BSU athletics refusal to drink their own kool-aid. While I admire and revere some of the older program’s tradition and fan base, some of their tactics, (like smack-texting LSU fans and the homoerotic homerism of Meyer/Tebow) I appreciate the down to earth nature of BSU Football and its fans. Just my perspective.

by Bankssz on Oct 7, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Good perspective

Are you more of a “Come on!” guy?

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Oct 7, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

More of a teeth grinder

During the UC Davis game it was more of a “who spread mayo on the playbook” and “somebody ambushed our players in the locker room”. In retrospect, and after venting my frustrations on this site, I realize that
1. UC Davis played the Boise State role and we played the role of a team we have come to highly criticize.
2. A win is a win and I am guilty of buying into to a broken system that gives credit to “style points” and “quality wins”. My bad. Never again.

by Bankssz on Oct 7, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

On a completely unrelated note

Is it just my computer or are the new comments not being cleared when you leave the page?

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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 7, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah and...

OBNUG hasn’t been loading like it should the past couple days. I couldn’t get into OBNUG at all for a little while this morning.

"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."

by JRig on Oct 7, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

me neither

what it the deal?! (said in my best Jerry Seinfeld voice)

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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 7, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Serenity Now!!

I have have a moment of panic every time OBNUG doesn’t load right away.

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by JRig on Oct 7, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay! its working again!

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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 7, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not a ghost

I don’t boo. I may say come on, WTF was that etc., but I don’t boo.

"I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass."

by Belexes on Oct 7, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Same With Me

Booing is classless and rude. A simple, “WTF?! Pull your head out!”, shouted at the top of your lungs is enough encouragement for an erring young player to know the crowd is behind him.

by TitoRay on Oct 7, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I recall hearing a few “HOLD ON TO THE @#$%ing BALL” shouts during the Oregon game. Anyone else?

by Drew Roberts on Oct 7, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

you should

that was you saying that!

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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 7, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

From my arm chair. I hate easily preventable mistakes. If anyone on the field should be a perfect ballhandler, its the Center and the QB.

Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)

by Mikrino on Oct 7, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a Yankees fan....

Yankees fans will loudly boo the Yankees when its deserved. Those people pay a kings ransom to come watch the greatest collection of major league talent underperform and they will boo. Yankees players know they deserve it and use it as motivation. Coach Pete clamors for Bronco Nation to pay those outrageous fee hikes and cheer his team on. And the you have to watch that performance last week? I was booing at my tv and I pay the BAA a fair amount of money each month to stream the games to my comp. They deserved it and hopefully use it as motivation.

by cexeko on Oct 7, 2009 1:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

you will here alot of booing when you play the 7-1 idaho vandals and.....

the score is tied 17-17 going into halftime. it’s a remote possibility. i only saw the vandal schedule once and i think it’s their 8th game? it might be karma biting your fans on the azz since you like to make fun of that team from moscow idaho. (lentil capital of the world) and i declare the 16,500 seat kibbie dome the new “little big house” they are also 5-0 vs the spread. i personally would have to get at least 21 1/2 points to take them over bsu. lol.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 7, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shaaaa

And monkeys might fly out of my butt!

"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."

by JRig on Oct 7, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

And 21 1/2 points you shall have

"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis

by Kevan Lee on Oct 8, 2009 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

the biggest thing

is whether you are booing millionaire athletes/coaches; or underpaid refs (often acceptable even when not fully justified) or booing college athletes (often unacceptable even when fully justified).

Fully acceptable booing situations: the coach is playing more conservative than you’d like, the ref makes a call against your team that is even marginally arguable, or your high-priced NFL player drops the ball/fumbles/throws an interception.

I’d boo a college athlete if they were on the other team and I felt like booing. The only time I see myself booing a Bronco was if they did an illegal hit that injured a player, and it was like their second unnecessary roughness penalty of the game. And even then I’m not all that sure.

by killtacular on Oct 7, 2009 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Everyone is mistaken

I think everyone is confused. You guys weren’t hearing boos. You was hearing “Shooooooo.”
Oh wait, he only had one catch. Crap. Wrong again.

"Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish."

by JRig on Oct 7, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Booing

Never boo at my team. Lots of WTFs, but not booing. Since I see the broncos live once in a while, what’s the point of booing at the tv.

I love the colors Orange and Blue. Go Broncos!!! Go Titans!!!

by TitanBronco on Oct 7, 2009 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Count me among those that do not boo.

I have never boo’d a team that I am rooting for amateur or pro. It’s not that I have a personal stance against it, but as someone mentioned above the Broncos have never given me reason to even remotely consider booing. It would take a lot for me to forget, even for a moment, that any athlete is not susceptible to making errors from time to time. If I had been at the Georgia game, I probably would not have been able to withhold the urge to boo. In fact, I would still boo Zabranksy right now if given the chance.

Looking at the comments, it doesn’t appear the average OBNUG reader boos either. Unfortunately the average OBNUG reader does not represent the average Bronco fan. Many fans only frame of reference for the Broncos has been this meteoric rise to national prominance. Their expectations of the team are beyond reasonable, but the Broncos’ consistency continues to raise that bar of expectations.
I will never forget our fans booing the Broncos at halftime of the final home game of 2002 because they were only up 14-10. It was much the same situation Saturday against UC Davis – the team was still handily winning, but were playing mediocre and the fans reacted. I blame this on the fan base being more concerned about scoring margin and poll rankings than truly wanting to support their team and watch entertaining football.

It is frustrating when the Broncos don’t play at their high octane level. In those situations I am more of a “come on” guy or sometimes belt out an unintelligible Howard Dean like growl.

"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."

by MKingery on Oct 7, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Perspective from Provo

I’m a Bronco going to school at BYU, so while I’m here I go to the football games. The thing I hate the most about the fans here is how much the boo anyone…the opposing team, the refs, their own team, the announcers, the ball boy…anyone.

There is never a reason to boo your own team, never. You can’t claim to be behind your team when they are winning and then boo against them when they aren’t. That is the definition of a fair-weather fan.

The only thing I will boo at is very bad calls (even then it’s rare) and unsportsmanlike play. If a player takes a blatant cheap shot I will boo him in front of his grandmother.

by BSUDrew on Oct 7, 2009 6:46 PM PDT reply actions  

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