An open letter to college football
When the going gets tough, the tough write passive-aggressive letters to imaginary things. After the jump, read my rash reaction to the Broncos falling in the BCS rankings, watch me say some things I'm going to regret, and leave your comments if you agree or disagree. Let's vent.
Dear college football,
Kevan here. Just wanted to let you know that I hate you right now. Sorry I was unable to find a Maya Angelou Hallmark card to adequately express my feelings.
I think you know why I'm upset. My Boise State Broncos just fell three spots in your BCS rankings despite winning big on the road against a conference team. Why? Beats me. You are satan incarnate? That's the theory I'm going with for now.
To a rational person, falling three spots doesn't make sense. Boise State did not lose. They did not play horribly. They completed roughly 60 percent of their center-QB exchanges. They did nothing differently than any of the other ten teams around them apart from not needing a last-second field goal block to win, not winning by one score, and not beating Michigan State on the final play. You want the Broncos to make it more interesting? Well, you didn't seem to like the Tulsa game very much, so maybe you should make up your mind.
I understand that your BCS formulas don't account for margin of victory. But do they account for rationality? How about common sense? They most certainly accounted for my giant headache that sent me to bed at 8:30 last night.
Seriously, why? Why go to the trouble of having a BCS poll in late October if the results of that poll are heinous, impractical, and faulty? Here's what everyone in their right mind saw happen over the weekend: The top eight teams in the country all won. Here's what your BCS computers saw: 1111011011101110111BoiseStateFAIL1001011001.
Not cool, college football.
What really irks me is that the Broncos' big drop came during the first big week of conference play. Through the nonconference schedule, Boise State was the No. 4 team in the country. Now that conference play is beginning, they are dropping like an Idaho student's GPA. How is that fair? Don't bother grouping the Broncos in Division I-A if you're not going to give them credit for blowing through a schedule they don't have the ability to change.
I'm really done writing about you. Every week, it's something new. Remember the time when USC passed Boise State and both teams were on byes? That made me punch things. The national championship talk was fun while it lasted - NOT. There is nothing good that can come from dwelling on the unerring ineptitude of polls and the BCS. Coach Pete is right. Why worry about something you cannot control?
I am a Boise State football fan. I am not a college football fan. There's no fun in being a fan of a sport that makes the rules up as it goes along, marginalizes good teams, and protects its own interests above all else.
Please leave me alone for a few weeks.
Sincerely,
Kevan
Ps. NCAA Football 05 on the Gamecube sucked.
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i love it you used the binary code 1 or 0 in your letter
that is all computers are supposed to see but if you really want to send the letter send it to jim delaney (big ten commissioner) he definitely threw a monkey wrench into the computer. iowa number 1 in computer rankings bullzhit. brad edwards at espn probably would tell you there is a different microprocessor chip in each computer poll and then they add it up with an abacus.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 26, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank You
kev that was hands down the greatest hting I have ever read on your site. I feel exactly the same way. I hate college football so much right now it makes me sick. I sometimes don’t even want to watch the games anymore because none of it matters. We win and we drop. Its like being stuck on a bad ride at the fair and you can’t even get off. I honestly feel like we are just on a track that is on a slow decent to hell most weekends. I really hope you forward this to ESPN, FOX Sports and other media outlets. I am so sick of seeing us punished for winning games. I can’t wait till we beat San Jose by 50 this week and we fall behind Oklahoma. That will be the crowning moment of utter stupidity for the BCS. Going to go throw myself into traffic now.
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
Don't be ridiculous ...
We’re going to fall behind Oregon.
And then I’m going to give up football.
"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis
Yep
Its to bad WE didn’t play CAL instead of UCDAVIS and OKLAHOMA ST. instead of BGU. Oh well guess you can’t win them all. Oh wait we have and we still basically have lost. Awesome!
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
That could be the end of football as we know it...
and that is a good thing.
I see no other scenario that could shakeup the BCS than an undefeated BSU team being snubbed a BCS bowl because a one-loss Oregon team jumped them. (Of course a one-loss Oregon team would be a BCS conference champ and in automatically)
I think there is a chance that a two-loss Oregon team would get an at large bid over BSU. If both TCU and BSU goes undefeated, TCU gets the automatic bid and BSU would be in the at-large pool. A two-loss Oregon team would be ranked higher than the Broncos and could get the selection.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
Two loss Oregon would be ranked lower,
But would still be selected over Boise State Ohio State of 2008 style.
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Oklahoma will pass us
if they beat Oklahoma State and some FCS team.
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by Bronco Nation Podcast on Oct 27, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Salt was this week,
next weeks agenda calls for them to pulling our toenails out with pliers then dumping salt on our wounds.
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
If Oregon beats USC and then leapfrogs you, that will be the ultimate injustice.
As a Utah fan, I’m glad TCU is ahead of you and I actually hope you lose a game so that Utah can beat TCU and jump you as well, but I agree that having Iowa and USC ahead of you is utterly ridiculous.
Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.
by displacedute on Oct 26, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
HA!
Please tell us who we are supposed to lose to? My best friend who is a Utah fan says they have no chance in beating TCU this year. You almost lost to them last year with a very very good team and that was at home. I’m not saying it will be as bad as BYU was but you’ll be lucky if Utah escapes with a 14 point loss.
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
Utah is 3-1 against TCU since they joined the MWC.
The only “loss” was on an illegal pick play during OT during TCU’s top-10 season. Utah won in Ft. Worth two years ago, and of course the last two games in SLC. I’m not saying it’s a sure win, but Utah is a much tougher matchup for TCU than BYU is. Again, not saying Utah is going to beat TCU, but I would not be surprised.
As for Boise, I don’t know who you’re going to lose to. I don’t see a loss on your schedule. I’m hoping it happens soon because then my Utes will know they can get to the BCS by beating TCU. That motivation might be enough. Utah always plays better when nobody respects them and they have something to play for. That said, your next three weeks of opponents are unlikely to beat you. Idaho and Nevada are the only ones who seem to have even a chance to do it. USU is looking better than most recent years, but that’s like saying a 550-lb man lost 12 lbs. Yeah it’s an improvement, but does it really matter?
Everyone hates a pink-shirt-wearing communist.
by displacedute on Oct 26, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
it was my goal this year...
…to not fret too much about polls. I really wanted to try and enjoy the ride and not spend so much energy worrying about things that were out of our control.
Of course, the only caveat I had to that was “As long as we remained the highest non-BCS team.”
BYU self destructed. Woo!
Houston wasn’t up to the challenge. Right on!
Utah’s got a loss. Yes.
Not so fast… TCU you sons-a-bitches. We’ve held a comfortable lead in the polls on them all year and now they pass us. They are good. Real good. I fully expect them to win out. Which means, unless a miracle happens, they will remain ahead of us and go to a BCS bowl.
Anger…
I have attended every home Boise State football game since 1992.
It's ok.
This all screams PLAYOFF!! in my opinion.
Mark Schalabch is down on the season because the normal powerhouses don’t look like powerhouses. Maybe it isn’t that the normal powerhouses aren’t up to snuff, but rather the rest of Division I is catching up with them.
That couldn’t possibly be it, right?
Iowa, Cincinnati, TCU, Boise State, Houston, Utah, BYUnevermind, are non-traditional powers that are currently ranked. Give it time…
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
GOD FORBID
We not be forced to watch Ohio St. get monkey stomped by ( insert any SEC, PAC-10, or BIG-12 team ) in a BCS or the NC game every year. Because that never gets old. Why not let BSU, TCU, Utah or even BYU beat them in a BCS game? I am so freaking sick of seeing the same damn teams play every year in the NC and BCS games and now that the rest of us are catching up they have to find new and more exciting ways to F*** us over. If I didn’t LOVE BSU I would probably stop watching college football compleatly. The BCS is so bad the even Bernie Madoff thinks its a scam.
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
Do you feel better?
Mr. Lee, please calm down there is a lot of football left. We are facing an uphill battle as all the old money schools do not want to share the spoils.
The key is to play consistent and win out. BSU is a fan favorite as a small underdog in the big college game. We must keep our wits about us and keep smiling just like coach Pete. He knows the football game as well as the media game.
Your letter could have been avoided by simply working out in the gym. You made no progress.
by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Oct 26, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions
The key is that there is no key?
While I am sure that much of Kevan’s open letter is tongue-in-cheek, there is no need for him to calm down when much of what he addresses is true.
It doesn’t matter that there is a lot of football left to play, BSU has no control over their own fate. If their SOS is diluted after a game at Hawaii to the point they drop several spots, imagine what will happen after wins over NMSU or Utah State.
College Football has been stolen from the fan in the name of making money. The human polls are corrupt and have no accountability, and many of the computer polls have proprietary formulas that not even the BCS has seen or verified. There is so much opportunity for corruption and collusion that it is surprising Congress has not intervened.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
by MKingery on Oct 26, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ahh Truth the endless search.
It is obviously about the money, what isn’t these days? It depends what perspective you want to peer into college football?
Are they all A-1 and therefore all equal. That would make each conference mute, fine with me. But the old money could just not deal with it.
A playoff is the only sanity saving tool for the job. Can we all agree on that?
by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Oct 26, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You’ll notice that I tend to talk quite a bit tongue in cheek around here, but thanks for the feedback. Fact is things are rarely as bad as they seem or as good as they seem. In this case I think we’re dealing with the former.
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by Kevan Lee on Oct 26, 2009 9:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
New Guy
Thanks Kevan, understood.
Why don’t you guys come up with a ranking system for the TV analysts. It would be a big hit and lots of fun would come out of the system. I would be happy to provide some seed capital for the venture.
by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Oct 27, 2009 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Why don't we?
Because too many people would love that, the blog would get too popular, and I’d have to sell out to some sentient ESPN computer and then spend the rest of my days drinking cherry 7-up on my yacht parked in Lucky Peak Reservoir.
What kind of system are you thinking about? I’d be interested in exploring that because I find pretty much all TV analysts atrocious. Email me at kevan@obnug.com or something.
"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis
On that topic.
Are we ready to move on from Watson back to Mark May for PE#1? Is he worthy enough for a mid-season change?
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
I was thinking along those same lines...
I think that PE#1 should be a fluid thing. Much like the Gators were an overwhelming preseason favorite, Graham was the clear #1 before the season.
Much like Alabama, no one expected Mark May to return to his former status and challenge Graham.
Herby, Scott Wolf, Jon Wilner, Oregon announcers, Prater, Akey’s Mustache and many others could challenge for elite status. We could even have a mock playoff bracket at the end of the year. The possibilities are endless.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
College Football...
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by BoiBlue on Oct 26, 2009 2:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 26, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
As far as I’m concerned, there is no national title in college football.
Once I realize that, then college football is fun again.
Yes there is.
Just not in the division we play in.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
But guys...
USC is ahead of us because they ONLY lost by one point to a 3-5 team. If Boise State would’ve done the same, we’d probably be ranked 60th right now.
Your underestimating the stupidity
We would atleast be 80th!
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
In the words of the wise Van Wilder...
Worrying is like a rocking chair. It gives you something to do, but it doesn’t get you anywhere.
Or was that complaining? either way, the quote still works.
Absolute Insanity
Great vent, Kevan. thanks for saying what I’m feeling, only saying it in a much more coherent and humorous way. My feelings are more short-and-sweet, and unprintable.
I tried to ignore the polls and the hype and just enjoy the games for the sport they were meant to be. I really tried to stay out of that loop! But, just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in. (Intern, know what movie that line is from?)
From what I’m seeing, that much argued point about strength of schedule doesn’t hold water. Look, if BSU had played Oregon State, instead of UC Davis, and had played Arizona, instead of Miami of OH, our OOC SOS would be as good as any, and we would still be undefeated. AND … we would still have been ranked no higher than 4th in the BCS. So, up to the Hawaii game, we had hit the glass ceiling. So, it doesn’t matter who we played. once we showed we could beat a top team, Oregon, and then stayed undefeated. ( Yes, I know I’m typing “we”, like I’m a part of the team. It’s just shorter and more convenient for me.) The pollsters can’t go back two or three games and give you a new ranking based on past performance! Well, they SHOULDN’T be allowed to! So, BSU dropped because they blew out Hawaii. It’s that simple, and that unreasonable.
I think TCU is a great team. I think TCU could win the NC, if they had the chance. But, they didn’t deserve to move over BSU, based on this week alone, and BSU did not deserve to be moved down. And Iowa and USC should NOT have moved up, at all! This is crap!
Ala Homer Simpson
I tried to ignore the polls and the hype and just enjoy the games for the sport they were meant to be. I really tried to stay out of that loop! But, just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in. (Intern, know what movie that line is from?)
Godfather Part 3 quotes make Jesus vomit with rage.
by BroncoInferno on Oct 26, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Makes me wonder
what they will come up with next year to keep us out of top contention after OOC victories over VT and OSU….hmmmmm
Elementary
Oh, they will just rank BSU below Virginia Tech and OSU, because they played a tougher team, in us, than we played, in them. C’mon, man, you gotta use BCS logic!
by TitoRay on Oct 26, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
TCU deserves their current position...
…Gene Bleymaier doesn’t. TCU scheduling UVA and Clemson gave them the nudge over us. In the next 6 years, TCU has 10 BCS opponents scheduled, with more on the way. Quick, name the BCS opponents on BSU’s 2011 slate. Hint: It is between -1 and 1. Our schedule has failed us now and will in the future. Time for a change in tactics.
Obviously you're not a golfer...
Oregon State.
What did I win?
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 26, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
My bad!
I knew we had a home and home with them. I just assumed that it would be in ’10 and ’11. Go figure they would skip a year. I will take that new pair of glasses.
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 26, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree a lot of it is on Gene...
Why do you think Kustra tried to add an incentive clause to his contract for scheduling BCS conference teams.
TCU does deserve some credit, but let’s look at the quality of teams they play, not the conference. Virginia is a horrible team and will finish with no more than four wins. Clemson had a big win this weekend but has been mediocre otherwise.
Oregon far outshines Clemson.
Tulsa is probably better than Virginia.
In the end, Fresno will fare as well as BYU. but give the edge to BYU
Utah is overrated, but so is Nevada
Both teams have played an FCS opponent.
San Jose St + NMSU = San Diego St + New Mexico
Idaho + La Tech = Air Force + Wyoming
Utah St = UNLV
Hawaii loses a notch compared to Colorado St.
The wildcard is Miami OH because of the 13th game.
The difference between Oregon and Clemson more than makes up for any of the minor differences between the other comparison. I just don’t see where TCU’s schedule is that much tougher. It has bigger names, but not tougher opponents.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
Hey Mikrono...
We’re waiting for you to come back to spitblood and run your mouth some more. That was a great prediction about the fun ending in Provo for the Frogs. Also saying it would take an act of God to jump Boise. Well, I guess God has spoken. We’re also wondering what happened to that promise about us being able to post on your blog following the bowl game last year? Don’t make promises you cant keep. Good luck the rest of the way. We’re in the driver’s seat now, right where we belong.
Hopefully both teams can get in this year. It is unlikely but who knows. Also You can bet that if you guys do get the bid that Bronco Nation will be rooting for you to crush whatever sorry ass team they give you. And if it works the other way I hope that we would get the same kind of respect. We all need to remember that all the “mid-majors” are in this together and that we need to support one another. Good luck the rest of the way TCU.
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
Huh.
I guess you didn’t get a chance to post on Kevan’s blog. Although, Maybe THAT’S the reason he burnt out! It’s all your fault TCU! You almost took the best blogger EVER out of commission.
Kevan, if they didn’t get a chance, this would be the perfect week for you to offer them that opportunity. I mean, they jump over us in the BCS polls after defeating us last year. If the blogger is even half as good as you, he can surely write a blog post dated December 24th, 2008; even adding a bit of “foreshadowing” to the “following” year.
I’d be up for that!
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
You should check your email. I asked for your post after the game. Still have it? You should put it in a fanpost.
"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis
by Kevan Lee on Oct 26, 2009 9:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
NCAA Football 2005 for the Gamecube wasn’t good, but it was the best the li’l Cube had to offer.
Although it’s difficult to see when your consistently ranked team is rolling through undefeated season after 12-1 season and so on, but the more teams shut out of the BCS and National title game the better it is for the final goal. A Playoff. If TCU goes undefeated and doesn’t get a national title bid, that’s another senator who pushes the playoff notion. If Boise State gets picked for a national title shot next year over a two loss SEC team, that will cause riots in the football crazed south. The system sucks and it’s certainly not fair, but every injustice, every undefeated Auburn shut out of the title game, every 12-0 Boise State getting passed over for Utah, every Oklahoma/Pitt/’bama skull that the mid-majors hold up after the BCS bowls makes more people take notice and get angry.
And only when enough Americans get angry about something does progress ever result.
Very true
The injustices will probably pile up much higher before anything ever really gets fixed.
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
best from a Football perspective, I loved Strikers, Sunshine and Windwaker.
by HawkeyedFrog on Oct 26, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
did you love Mario Tennis?
because Mario Tennis pretty much got me through college for a year
"I eat success for breakfast - with skim milk!" - Tony Perkis
ehh
it doesn’t bother me quite as much. If you aren’t allowed to account for margin of victory, then plenty of other teams had better wins than we did, so it wasn’t surprising or rage-inducing, just disappointing (we didn’t really drop in the human polls). But just winning games is more important than specific poll position, at least until the very end of the season.
"They completed roughly 60 percent of their center-QB exchanges."
lmbfao
don’t fret … from four letters:
“This week, Boise State and TCU could swap places again if both win and the human polls stay the same. Boise State’s opponent, San Jose State, has a Sagarin strength of schedule of No. 7. UNLV, TCU’s opponent, is No. 94.
As the weeks go by, it’s becoming increasingly clear that that the Broncos might not be able to stay high in the BCS standings based on what they do on the field. They’re going to have to rely on Oregon, their best win, to continue to keep them high enough in the computer rankings.
"Whether Boise State is going to be able to stay close to TCU in the computers is going to depend on what Oregon does," Edwards said. "One of the things the computers look at is who was your best win against? What is your best win and how good is it? And whenever you beat a team that hasn’t lost to anybody other than you, that’s as good as it gets as far as that element of the computer program. … As long as Oregon hasn’t lost to anyone other than Boise State, it has a chance to help offset a lot of the weakness of the WAC. But if Oregon loses to USC, and especially if it loses again, then I think TCU could end up blowing by Boise in the computers."
This is a tough situation for Boise State, with its fate tied to another team. All Boise State can do is beat the teams on its schedule and hope for the best, and as we’ve seen in past seasons, sometimes the Broncos’ best isn’t good enough in the BCS’ eyes.
"Probably more so than any other team in the top 10, I think style points matter more for Boise State," Edwards said. "I don’t think they can afford to play a close game."
that said, coach pete plays this b-s game just right – play your best every game and don’t pay any attention to the polls. when the season’s over you get to see where you get to play and against whom. i think the only thing you get from worrying about the polls on a weekly basis is the possibility of developing an ulcer.
of course it isn’t fair; but as bankssz said in another post:
“If we were to run the table next year, get into the NCG, AND win, I think it would be one of the last support beams to fall in the BCS big house. This is heady stuff I realize, but Boise State has an opportunity to go the path less trodden, fight the good fight, and beat the bully. If BSU takes the MWC invite, much of the bite will be take out of the anti-BCS argument.
Besides, regardless of percieved SOS, cupcakes, small stadium, and so called smaller talent, BSU is accomplishing it’s goals and rising in national prominence under the current system. The question could be asked why mess with a good thing?
As a fan, I would much rather see BSU take the moral high ground and do it’s part in bringing down the BCS than take the free meal ticket and disappear into BCS and MWC obscurity."
mikrino added:
“You have epitomized my exact thoughts on why Boise State should stay where they are.
They ARE impacting college football now. They don’t NEED the MWC, the MWC needs them. Why pander to the BCS when its the very institution that says you’re not worthy with all the propaganda and mainstream media backing it? Win a National Championship from the outside by giving the pollsters and computers no choice but to pick them for the game.
Viva La Revolucion!"
of course, they were addressing bsu joining the mwc, but with regards to the bcs, let’s hope bsu beats the socks off the remaining teams on their schedule, get’s a worthwhile bowl invitation and wins, and sooner or later the bcs will have to pay attention and hopefully mend their errant ways.
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
nice work
The schedule is an issue and bose knew they had that 13th game and could have scheduled a better opponent then UC Davis. But I dob agree waxing an opponent one can not change and then dropping is a joke
by Jeremy Mauss on Oct 26, 2009 8:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
i may be wrong but i think oregon state backed out and bsu scheduled ucdavis to fill the gap.
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Oct 26, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Get Real People
How can you defend that laughable schedule that was put together by your football team this year. Take a cue from Pat Hill at Fresno State and schedule more than one tough game every decade. When you are trying to put Bowling Green and Tulsa up on a pedestal than you know you have become a delusional fan. Bronco fan has nobody to blame but there own athletic department and the joke that is the WAC conference.
Oh like TCU?
How about 3 and 4 Virginia and 4-3 Clemson or FCS division Texas State? Lets face it, TCU’s Schedule is not much better. All your saying is put some low level AQ teams on the slate. Besides most non-confrence games are scheduled years out. When BGU and Miami of Ohio were scheduled they were both pretty good teams.
"I think I know what you guys are trying to say.....We need to build a space helicopter." Nathan Explosion
Which is better make-believe moral victories, or real victories.
I would suggest that anybody bringing that tired Fresno State schedule argument count how many conference championships they have won this decade.
by Rand McNalley on Oct 27, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Corruption. Plain and simple.
Thank you for an excellent article Kevan. I have been walking around in a daze today. Sick to my stomach. I think about the remainder of TCU’s schedule and feel totally helpless. The Mtn West conf outside of TCU really is a grease fire. BYU and Utah are jokes. BYU proved as much and Utah is smoke and mirrors. What really sucks is that by the time TCU gets their chance to throttle Utah, the Utes are going to be ranked around #12-15. After TCU lights Utah up, that will be the end of Boise St.’s BCS dreams.
What TOTALLY blows about the BCS (I mean besides EVERYTHING about the BCS) is that TCU and BSU are LEGIT top 10 teams. Both teams actually deserve to be in BCS bowls. Here’s a novel idea BCS: JUST PUT THE 10 BEST TEAMS IN YOUR DAMN BOWLS. Wow… so simple. So fair. So not ever going to happen. Instead we will all be treated to another Cincy vs Va Tech Orange Bowl (YAWN) and Penn St vs USC in the Rose. Exciting, except we saw it last year.
A lot of what you wrote mirrors how I feel about boxing. I am a HUGE boxing fan, but in order to do so, I have somehow been able to develop an ability to completely block out all the extracurricular BS and just focus on the matches. I hate everything about boxing except for the boxing. I realize that is now how I need to feel about CFB. As much as I love it, I need to find a way to just enjoy the match ups. I’m not sure if that is possible, but I’ve got to try because this is driving me nuts.
by MooreWalksOnWater on Oct 26, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions
It's an uphill battle...
I can’t say that I know how you feel because the team I support is a BCS conference. I agree that the BCS is BS. It is the system that contols CFB right now and we can like it or not. It is all driven by money and it always will be, whether there is a playoff or not. That is why you guys (and other schools) get called mid-majors. You don’t have the enrollment (read: income, including alumni money) that the BCS schools do, so therefore, they are less likely to sling the high-dollar bowl games your way, even if you earn it on the field.
It’s easier said than done with regard to following the rankings. I think that Chip Kelly has brainwashed me not to care until they matter (which is not right now). Take care of things on the field and it will all work out in the end. Sadly, that might/won’t be the case with BSU because of their conference affiliation and the schedule that the computer doesn’t like.
I really wish/hope that BSU gets into a different conference in the near future. I would be exicted to see what they can do in another conference with better talent than what they have faced this year (Oregon included. I think we both agree that neither team was not on their top game on Sept. 3rd.). Coach Pete is doing great things there and I truely do hope for your success.
Try not to get too riled up, Kevan. You guys have the talent and just keep racking up those WAC conference titles, until you have the chance to hang some other conference’s banner. We have to be fans of our teams and support them no matter what. We can control little else in the world.
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
by 071903 on Oct 26, 2009 11:36 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Me too!
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 27, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Political Pressure
Decent words from a Duck. We did enjoy the game this year, but last year at Autzen was much sweeter.
The energy from all BSU fans should go towards the people that can make BSU’s dream of another conference be a reality. Local congressmen, AD and school Pres. should all be hounded until something positive develops for the Broncos. The kids are playing great with a top notch coach, now the talking head politicians should get active.
A MWC invitation is really just a lateral move, it needs to be PAC-12. That will require twice the seating to begin with, there are more criteria but easier than the stadium hurdle.
We are in the WAC for now and should respect our conference even though no one else does. Big Sky was fun while it lasted also.
by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Oct 27, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
DID BOISE LOSE?
That’s the question I received at work about 239 times today when they asked where Boise was now ranked and I responded “#7”. Even idiots that give two-shits about football understand the idiocracy of the rankings. “No, they didn’t lose, idiot…they blew Hawaii back to the Continental United States!”…“Why’d they drop from #4 to #7, then?” “FUCK YOU…I DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE…ASK YOUR F’ING CONGRESSMAN..or your ‘coach’/Media Poll voter…JUST DON’T ASK ME ANYMORE!!!!”
What else was I supposed to say? Yes, Iowa is the best team and I can tell you why? TCU has played a much harder schedule…Virginia losing to a 1-AA team is much better than us…I’M DONE!
If playing in blue uniforms on a blue field is an unfair advantage, then isn't wearing green uniforms on a green field also an unfair advantage?
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If playing in blue uniforms on a blue field is an unfair advantage, then isn't wearing green uniforms on a green field also an unfair advantage?
by TheShrewdOne on Oct 26, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
The worst part about this BCS system is that it pits the fanbases of undefeated non-traditional conferences against each other. Instead of only rooting for my team to win and for humiliating defeats for 0U, Texas Tech and USC I have to worry that we looked better beating Mormons than some Blue people who we’ve played in two bowl games looked while playing Hawaii. We should be directing our rage at the idiotic BCS rather than at eachother and some idiotic pollsters.
by HawkeyedFrog on Oct 27, 2009 2:55 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Amen-brotha-rec'd
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 27, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
BSU Football Ranking
We were a little high for no apparent logical reason. I almost puke when the simple mistakes we are making are shown on the replays. The #7 spot is just right for now as it takes the pressure off us in the media. We will get there just focus on football and us as fans how to change mass opinion. Coach Pete is doing a great job, period.
The USC vs UO game is very important to us, UO by four in a rainy dog fight. The rain should keep the scoring down some.
by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Oct 27, 2009 7:48 AM PDT reply actions
BCS computers saw: 1111011011101110111BoiseStateFAIL1001011001
I think you forgot a 1. This was priceless. Thanks for the laugh today Kevan.
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by Bronco Nation Podcast on Oct 27, 2009 7:21 PM PDT reply actions
Broncos though . . .
. . . were underwhelming previous two games, TCU has landed on more folks’ radar.
Early season wins and losses never help as much, unfrotunately. Oregon is making you guys look great, pray for them to keep winning and Utah to knock off TCU.
Someone here said it though: the big money does not want to share.
Settle it on the field, only fair way.

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