Boise State Falls to No. 7 in the BCS Poll, there is no good in the world
by OBNUG Intern on Oct 25, 2009 5:34 PM PDT
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The Broncos fell to No. 7 in the latest BCS poll after a 45-point win on the road against Hawaii. Was Hawaii that bad? Is beating BYU that good? Is there any reason why we're all still college football fans? Join in the comments after the jump.
Thanks to the OBNUG Intern for getting this post started. Give that man a raise or something.
It was another crazy weekend of College Football! Florida survives an upset minded Mississippi State. Alabama manages to squeak past the Vols. Missouri watched the Red Rival Rivalry and figured that they were better than Oklahoma, turns out they are not. Somewhere Thomas Byrd and Garret Pendergast are fumbling their pillows in their sleep. Cincinnati has an impressive victory over the Cardinals of Louisville. Iowa wins with a 4th and goal touchdown pass with 2 seconds to remain unbeaten. Was USC win impressive? TCU…never mind. Mighty Miami? Not so much. Hey LSU won, yippy. Oregon beat the team the beat USC…So Oregon > USC. tOhio State is trying to do what they can to get to the NC game. Oklahoma beat a ranked team, they should be ranked. Utah State beats La Tech? And Idaho got crushed by Nevada. Not only did they lose, they broke their covering streak, sorry wolfmanshow. What does the loss say about Idaho? What does the win say about Nevada? Who knows? New Mexico St. holds Fresno to 34 points, what happened?!
With that said, where will the Broncos end up. Was the beat down of Hawaii impressive enough for the voters to keep them at #4 in the BCS? Will they be jumped? Who is ranked too high? Who is ranked too low? Think Idaho gets any votes this week? Lets talk it out.
UPDATE:
Boise State Holds at #5 in the Coaches
1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. Texas
4. USC
5. Boise State
Stays put at #6 in the AP Top 25 Polls
1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. Texas
4. USC
5. Cincy
6. Boise State
Boise State stays at #5 in the Harris Interactive
1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. Texas
4. USC
5. Boise State
Boise State falls to #7 in the BCS Poll
1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. Texas
4. Iowa
5. USC
6. TCU
7. Boise State
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I was wondering where you were.
They stayed at #6 in the AP, as well. I thought if anyone moved TCU up over Boise, it would be the media.
Thus, it goes to prove that Mark May is not the media.
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-- Nale
Oh Look
Oklahoma won and there back in the top 25. Yes wins over Idaho State, Tulsa, Baylor and Kansas are worthy of being in the top 25. I wish Boise could get that kind of respect.
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by Bronco Nation Podcast on Oct 25, 2009 9:57 AM PDT reply actions
I completely agree
Since when did being barely over .500 half way through the season merit a Top 25 ranking in anything? But they did beat Tulsa 45-0. They should probably be ranked in the Top 10. This is ridiculous.
Here I am
Start by winning 6 Nal titles, producing tons of Heisman Trophy winners, the two longest winning streaks in NCAA football, and being a consistent power for over half a century. Nice win over the Sooners in the Fiesta Bowl but it will take some time. Meanwhile, hit the road and beef up that schedule. People are beginning to notice but it’s going to take some time.
Although probably not fair, I watch the games, see the goofy blue carpet and soft, soft schedule and I walk away thinking that circus has no business anywhere near the top 10.
Anyway, congrats on the great season.
yeah, because the past
should have a HUGE impact on this season.
go home, junior.
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Oct 25, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually the past does matter.
The comment was made that you wish you got the kind of respect OU does. They have earned it. Playing one legitimate team a year will not get you the respect you want. Try playing in a real conference and take on 4 to 6 top 25 teams a year and then you can get that respect. If your conference can’t provide that competition then go to a different conference. Otherwise you need to schedule major OOC competition. You will most likely have to do “one and done” as no one will want to play on the blue turf. That’s the facts. But if you want the respect, you will have to do whatever it takes to get it. I think Boise State is a great program, but most people feel you actually have an unfair advantage getting to BCS games. You only have to win 1 to 2 games a year against decent competition and skate the rest of the way. Then you get big dollar bowl. Yes, you do get screwed out of playing for MNC but with the soft schedule you shouldn’t complain. Most teams have to play a harder schedule to get that BCS slot.
So you're saying...
…that you are Notre Dame?
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-- Nale
And not a $12 Million one.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
They play Oregon next week...
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 25, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
They are ranked
Because they lost to 2 ranked opponents by 1 point and lost to the #3 team in the nation by 3 points. The defense is ranked in the top 5 in most catagories and are using the backup quarterback and all new receivers and o line and are still 5 points away from undefeated. (Actually is would have to be 8 points to get the wins). They are there because they have played numerous ranked opponents. If you want Boise to get that respect. Go the Mountain West and play some real competition. You have a one game season this year and coast against inferior opponents the rest of the season. OU also destroyed Tulsa by 45 and you got out a with a 7 point win. It’s just the facts. They deserve to be in the top 25. Regardless of what you think. If TCU wins out then they deserve to go ahead of you. I respect your program but TCU has had the more difficult schedule. If OU played your schedule they would have a good shot of being undefeated as well. I think BSU is a great team but there is not reason to bring OU down for the schedule they have had to face this year.
Are you kidding me….they lost to BYU and we all see how much of a powerhouse they are.
by Mountngrown on Oct 25, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
No, not kidding
BYU is better than all on your schedule with the exception of Oregon. We lost by one point with starting qb going down, terrible o-line, All American tight end on the sidelines as well. Injuries happen and we lost. But BYU is no slouch for OOC opponent. Neither is Miami. OU’s OOC is by far superior competition than all of yours. I give credit for Oregon. No credit for anyone else. Join the Mountain West and maybe with all the rumblings they have going on maybe that would be the icing on the cake that would make that conference a BCS auto qualifier. I understand your frustration but the system is the system. Your conference is your problem. Not your team.
Um.
I bet Tulsa is better than this years BYU team.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
Fine
OU beats Tulsa 45-0. BSU beats them 28-21. I only got involved because above someone said OU didn’t deserve to be ranked. So if OU demolishes Tulsa who you had some trouble with I would think that OU deserves to be ranked. Tulsa, in my opinion, is not better than BYU. And since OU played both I think that backs up that logic. OU played poorly against BYU and should have won but the fact that OU completely demolished Tulsa would lead most people to put BYU ahead of Tulsa.
And BYU is ahead of Tulsa.
Their record speaks for it.
If I were to rank and my voice had weight in the college football world, USC would still be out of the top 10, behind Oregon; Oklahoma would be out of the top 25; and BYU would have only been ranked about 23 coming into TCU.
If you want to slot rank, go ahead. But the perception of both Oklahoma and Florida State have gone down. But BYU didn’t, because they won when their perception was high.
I’m a BYU fan right after I’m a Boise fan, but I’m also a college football fan, which allows me to understand placement and get a good size of measure of what teams are. BYU was a farce. We found this out vs. Florida State and one could even say the previous year.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
Hmmm.
I seem to recall Tulsa spanking BYU when they were the MWC champions in 2007.
Yes, they’re different teams, but do you even KNOW who you played last week? BYU’s defensive secondary is atrocious. Tulsa would have a field day with them.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
What are you talking about? I was talking about Oregon?
Oh, I see, you replied to the wrong comment. I just thought you were crazy.
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 25, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
An Oregon win over USC
will cure all of this. Too bad the Broncos do not have another key matchup towards the end of the Season. Thanks Nevada for not getting a few key wins and thanks Idaho for getting blown out by Nevada.
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by Bronco Nation Podcast on Oct 25, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
???
so Tcu beat a ranked team. The real question is is why was BYU ranked? Tcu didnt do anything special they just did exactly what Florida state did and dismantled a highly overrated cougar team oh whoopie, horn frogs biggets win of the year so far is Clemson only cause they beat Miami last night if they hadnt, Tcu hasnt beat anyone that is worth a damn. You put our most impressive win (Oregon) right now up against TCU straight up ducks win by 2+ td’s.
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions
*biggest
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
MWC = weak this year
TCU will eventually pass Boise State because they will get credit for beating ranked BYU and Utah teams. Both should not be in the Top 25 and are highly overrated. I don’t understand why BYU is still #26 in the AP poll. They should be down where Florida State is and should not be getting any votes. Utah hasn’t played a single impressive game… oh wait… they did beat San Jose State and Utah State. However, TCU will stomp them because they are the Boise State of the Mountain West and will dominate their weak conference foes. Meanwhile, Boise State will get the shaft from the media because Utah has had two great seasons this decade and happened to win their BCS games, which means that the MWC is so great and such a tough conference. Reality proves that Utah hasn’t had a great team every year . They had two good seasons and then they re-build for two or three years before they can compete again.
Maybe
I am a big fan of what you guys have done, but I don’t think this is your year. To be quite honest:
If BSU was in the MWC this year they might well win it all (I mean until you play the games how do you know, right?), I think it is very possible. Then again, they might end up with 2-4 losses—you guys don’t seem to have the killer instinct you had in previous years. If they played TCU or BYU’s schedule, yeah, problematic. A lot of those teams that play BSU close are far, far, far worse than FSU, Clemson, CSU, Air Force, BYU, Utah . . . .
You’d own New Mexico, and UNLV, I’d give you Wyoming and SDSU in closer games, but clear victories. After that, it’d be game to game. Depends on where you played them all, you guys are spanking tough at home, that’s for sure (I can’t see CSU winning at Boise).
Remember, you guys said the same exact stuff last year and TCU handed you your behinds—yes, the score was close (Paterson’s teams often have close, grind the down wins), but that game wasn’t close at all, not even, not a little bit, not kind of—you guys got shoved from one end of the field to the other. You were physically dominated in a way that showed your weakness: you might be finesse teams, but real power games areoutta your league. It’s rare to see two teams called as close as those two were, where one is so physically superior that it’s painful to watch.
You guys get them again this year and they very well could absolutely murder you, you’re not playing as well, they’re better than last year. Last year you guys should have gotten an at large with Utah in the BCS, it’s a shame you did not. That would have been fantastic, see BSU and Utah beat the big boys! Utah doesn’t have it this year, but TCU looks tough. We’re the only thing left on their schedule, and while we do play well there, I don’t see it . . . .
Your best draw if you make the BCS? Cincinnati, they’re definitely beatable by you guys. But if you guys make the BCS and pull say, the loser of the SEC? I don’t think you got it this year, while you could stay with a so-so OK team in a year that was kind of off for the Big-12 as a whole (and with arguably the finest team you guys ever had), the second place SEC team’s defense will murder you guys, they will be tougher than TCU’s, there is no way you guys would play with ’Bama or Florida. I think you could hang, maybe, with Georgia Tech, depends on which team showed up. At their best they are a decent team, but so are you guys.
So, I’m pulling for you guys to get the nod, and to draw Cinncy, and I’ll root for you.
Heck, if you guys get to the Sugar Bowl I’m driving over from Tallahssee and wearing Orange and Blue!
Best of luck
FYI...ESPN Heisman watch!
Name Position School Year 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Total
Mark Ingram RB Alabama So. 7 6 1 1 0 64
Tim Tebow QB Florida Sr. 8 5 0 1 1 63
Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame Jr. 0 3 6 0 1 31
Case Keenum QB Houston Jr. 0 0 0 8 1 17
Colt McCoy QB Texas Sr. 0 0 3 2 1 14
Kellen Moore QB Boise State So. 0 0 2 1 3 11
Jacory Harris QB Miami So. 0 0 1 1 0 5
If playing in blue uniforms on a blue field is an unfair advantage, then isn't wearing green uniforms on a green field also an unfair advantage?
Sorry...my formatting didn't hold...but you get the point!
If playing in blue uniforms on a blue field is an unfair advantage, then isn't wearing green uniforms on a green field also an unfair advantage?
by TheShrewdOne on Oct 25, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
wait wait wait
Wheres Tcu’s Qb Andy Dalton? or DE Hughes if their so good why aren’t they in the running? oh i forgot their not, cause tcu is overrated just like byu was!!
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 10:21 AM PDT reply actions
Wait wait wait
Our system of offense isn’t setup to put up huge numbers for an individual, we have 4 running backs getting in the game and our defense sets up short fields. Hughes is 50 times better than any defender on Boise’s roster. Just ask Kellen Moore about Hughes? Wow you made it on a list that must mean that you would beat us just like last year, oops wait we beat you last year while playing horrible.
The coaches must have loved BYU
TCU leaps to #6 in the coaches poll and closes to within 21 votes of BSU. Yet they drop BYU from 16 to out of the poll for the loss. [which I agree that they shouldn’t have been ranked to begin with]
Oregon needs to keep winning if the Broncos want to stay ahead of TCU. TCU still has an overrated Utah team on the schedule..
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
Yup
Utah another overrated MWC team, i mean dont get me wrong MWC always has strength and their conf is great but seriously BYU and UTAH are both Highly Overrated i think Boise would have hung huge numbers up on BYU and or UTAH
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 10:25 AM PDT reply actions
Man!
stuff in my post keeps disapearing when I edit it, it is driving me crazy!
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Sunday's
It’s the Bermuda Triangle of SBNation.
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Must be
I nearly tossed my computer across the room. Then rationality struck and I knew I couldn’t fix it with a broken computer. I need to just type it out in word, then copy & paste.
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 25, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoa ESPN
must have messed up, it is showing BSU at #6 right now, behind Cincy. They lost a spot? Earlier it had them at #5.
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Nope.
I saw it at 6. Maybe you didn’t refresh your page since Week 5?
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-- Nale
I am seriously going crazy today
It must have been the Bermuda Triangle
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 25, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
can't wait
for the second half of my prediction #1 to start happening. the first part of #1 and #2 and #3 are in the books …
“predictions:
broncos don’t fall in polls; four letters ‘analysts’ have a fit.
vandals streak ends.
mark johnson play-by-play still sucks."
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Oct 25, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions
Interesting
Tcu leaped Iowa in the harris poll by alil, gained alittle bit on us 2 not much tho we altho are only 50 pts behind usc and 50 pts ahead of cincy i like this. If oregon beats usc and convincingly not only will we move up next week but oregon has the possibility of getting back into the mix and maybe even jumping tcu, cause oregon has a tougher schedule then the horned frogs.
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions
ran out of time...
I will have to update the BCS rankings later.
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top preformers?
Kellen now leads the nation in Pa Eff and PaTD. He is one ahead of Keenum and Hall. Pettis is also tied for 2nd in the nation in ReTD. Imagine the lead Moore could start to get if our centers were DECENT
TCU will likely pass the Broncos today...
Haven’t seen the BCS rankings yet, but based alone on the ground TCU made up in the human polls, they will probably pass the Broncos when the rankings are released today. Last week the Broncos combined score was .8083 and TCU was at .7139. Most of that margin was due to the human polls.
While the computers didn’t love BYU, they did view them as higher than Hawaii, so TCU will close the gap in the computers as well. The bad news is that the computers do love Utah which will help TCU even more if they win out.
It will take a TCU loss or a two non-BCS teams in order for BSU to go to a BCS bowl.
"...east and west is the problem, north and south the solution."
STILL #4!!!
If playing in blue uniforms on a blue field is an unfair advantage, then isn't wearing green uniforms on a green field also an unfair advantage?
Where, when, why, how
did you learn about this?
I thought they came out after the Pro games on FOX.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
It was on one of the NFL games...they showed this week's top 5...we were still #4...still trying to find the numbers to see how close it is.
If playing in blue uniforms on a blue field is an unfair advantage, then isn't wearing green uniforms on a green field also an unfair advantage?
by TheShrewdOne on Oct 25, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF??
were #7 in the bcs guys
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions
just saw it on fox sports
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions
Fox just showed BCS rankings
1. Floriday
2. Alabama
3. Texas
4. Iowa
5. USC
6. TCU
7. BSU
8. Cincinnati
9. LSU
10. Oregon
HUCK THE fUSKIES.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 25, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions
did you notice the bcs poll came out later this week.jim delaney big ten commish had something to do about this.
iowa beats so so michigan state team on the last play and they goto number four. bull fu-king zhit. usc squeaks by oregon state and there number five. okay this is war. now i want oregon to crush usc and i want my most hated team in the land ohio state buckey’s to destroy iowa. screw this system. bsu should be four and tcu should be five. where was michigan state in rankings? i’ll bet around 35th 45th.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 25, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
GET LUCKY
I like our ranking at this time. We play better with a chip on the shoulder.
Texas may lose to OSU.
USC will lose to UO.
Iowa will lose to Ohio State.
TCU may lose to Utah.
Halloween will prove to be spooky for someone.
Here in Portland the Duck fans are very pumped for the USC game. Sure do wish that BSU could get into the PAC-12. It really is something with the larger stadiums and playing teams like UW and USC. Probably be the MWC next but that is an upgrade for this old fan. I was cheering for the Broncos clear back in the BJC days.
We are in the the thick of it, just stay positive and be good hosts and great fans.
by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Oct 25, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Very weird.
Iowa, USC both had to win close against not impressive opponents. Yet they move 2 spots? And then Oregon dominates and moves only 1?
Very, very odd.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
If the Ducks beat USC this week, I bet we move to the top of the 1-loss team list, which helps the Broncos in the strength of schedule department.
HUCK THE fUSKIES.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 25, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
POLITICAL ANIMAL
Try not to apply logic and reason to the college ranking system. It is a species problem, humans are simply following the power and greed thing that always screws things up.
The old money programs manipulate the entire system, think of it as wall street and we BSU are simply a little outsider this a perceived threat. May and Herbie and the rest of the goons are employed by the old money as well as the journalists and all others paying the mortgage.
BSU is a threat to all of their little worlds.
One of the keys to making this system change is for a non-BCS team to make into the title game. The old money programs will squeal like the greedy pigs they are and demand a playoff.
TV is the key to make the change, we need the executives to be more creative with programming and cut a deal that actually finds the best each year. It is so great in college basketball when their is a King crowned every year, no questions about it at all.
by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Oct 25, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
TCU and USC will both lose, don't worry.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
who is tcu going to lose too?
i’m a utah fan first but i see the writing on the wall. utah will be beaten by a score of 31 -17. if i were you i might worry about nevada. nevada has a better chance of beating boise than utah does over tcu. i do expect both teams to go undefeated and goto bcs bowls.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 25, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
IOWA?? IOWA??
with a lackluster performance at msu a MSU team that got beat by central michigan no offense to cmu but seriously IOWA? they would get romped by TEXAS maybe not so much bama or florida but if anyone is #1 texas is IOWA? i dont get it, and seriously TCU? to bad the computers cant tell that BYU was grossly OVERRATED…THIS is exactly why we need a playoff system!!!!
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 5:08 PM PDT reply actions
It's no problem.
I still see us getting into the BCS. Even 2 non-AQ’s may go. They shouldn’t, but to see Boise get robbed 2 years in a row… I think the bowl representatives can’t look past that.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
oh
and another thing why isnt oregon ranked higher? I mean at this pace if oregon wins vs USC they might jump us in the bcs next week forget about helping us lol.
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions
ESPN finally posted it.
HUCK THE fUSKIES.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 25, 2009 5:22 PM PDT reply actions
This isn't surprising.
I knew it would happen, just not so soon. _
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
How do the computers put IOWA at #1? I’m going to stop thinking about it now before my head explodes.
HUCK THE fUSKIES.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 25, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Simple answer...
The computers got the Swine flu.
I love the colors Orange and Blue. Go Broncos!!! Go Titans!!!
SOS
n people say style points and sos matter, ya they matter like a fat chick drinking diet coke. Fu**ing IOWA only beat arkansas st and northern iowa by a combined 4 points total yet they jump us?
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions
And needed a miracle last second touchdown against a team that lost to Central Michigan. Every year we forget about how much love the computers show the Big Ten.
HUCK THE fUSKIES.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 25, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
cal is actually at back in the bcs. they lost by a combined 70-6 to oregon and usc!
jim delaney is to blame for this. big ten commissioner. has been commish for over 15 years. supposedly the most powerful man in college football. i guess it’s true. how many phone calls did you make to the powers that be jd!
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 25, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
To Cal's credit...
nobody expected Oregon to handle them, well, so handily. I think the hangover lasted, as well. By year’s end, I think they’re #3 again in the Pac-10.
i see your point but we are not at the end of the season we are in week eight
i don’t dislike cal. i’m just looking at their resume and it’s not too impressive. that win over minnesota is very over-rated now. penn state beat them 20-0 and ohio state beat them something in the neighborhood of 35 -7. the 7 points coming against the second string players.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 25, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I gotcha...
and agree. The computers are looking at a loss the #4 and #10 ten. The other thing about their wins: Maryland sucks, E. Washington (FCS), Minn (you touched on it), UCLA. They’re getting name recognition points for sure.
like a fat chick drinking diet coke...you had me rolling.
The problem is that you guys still have the perception of being a middle of the road bcs conference team in a really bad league. UW fans threw the BSU loss in our face all week long. Like they could win at BSU. Idaho losing to Nevada and giving up 70 points just deflates the perception. Wow, really Idaho, did you just give up 70 to a team that scored 0 on a team with a defense that leaks like a seive (ND)?
I had to come over here because I am watching college football live and I agree with the injustice. Iowa sucks. They will lose. Hopefully TCU loses again.
Bison
ur a good man :) like your thoughts
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
not going to happen mr orange. tell me who tcu loses to and what is the score
remember you said clemson is going to be a 6-6 team. still think that.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 25, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
can texas christian play in the cold?
don’t sleep on wyoming. nov. 21 will be a cold day in laramie. and there’s not much oxygen at 7200ft., the highest stadium in college football. i would say this is the toughest game tcu has left. a couple fumbles could go wyoming’s way. i wouldn’t bet on it, but with tcu’s cocky attitude i could definitely see them losing. 14-7
by ce'sped azul on Oct 25, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Its possible
Texas struggled there….in the first half. But you never know these days.
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 25, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
tcu beat airforce at 6700 feet the second highest elavation and it was 17 degress
wind chill when game started. “started” i saw the game live on tv. by far the most miserable conditions this season for any college football team. air force shutout wyoming. case closed. tcu 31 wyoming 7. peace
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 26, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
TCU-BYU
So I was at the game yesterday and I can assure you that TCU is not better than Boise. (Of course I don’t need to convince anybody here of that.) BYU actually moved the ball fairly well against them, but had a lot of drives killed by penalties and turnovers. Same story on the other side of the ball. The Cougars had them stopped a few times but TCU’s drives were kept alive by penalties. This is not to build BYU up, they are not a good team this year.
Don’t worry, up in the stands my cousin and I finally figured out what was going on. The MWC was not going to risk not having a team going to a BCS bowl, so they couldn’t allow BYU to upset or even come close to TCU. We love conspiracy theories. Looks like it worked though.
We destroyed them
Listen, I understand that you want to underscore everything TCU will do for the rest of the year, but be fair, we stomped BYU, they only moved the ball because Patterson allowed them to have the middle of the field and the short routes. He knows that BYU lives off the long pass plays. I know its fun to throw conspiracy theories out there but they could have called us for holding every other play and we still would have won. We have better athletes and a better coaching staff. They only had two turnovers and one of them was forced by the best DE in the country Jerry Hughes. Penalties do happen and your telling me that Boise hasn’t had a single drive kept alive by penalties?
Ya gotta wonder
Does the number of teams jumping BSU have to do w/ some “tweaking” of the computer rankings? I mean, c’mon…Iowa BARELY beats MSU. USC has a bit of a struggle w/ OSU. Alabama gets LUCKY w/ a blocked FG. Florida gets help by the reffing crew to pull out a win. TCU manhandles a team that had no reason being in the top 25. BSU does what’s expected and facerapes UH, but drops 3 damned spots? I’m raising the BS flag here. At least the human polls have it about right, although I wouldn’t necessarily move TCU up so many spots.
I think TCU will get beat by the end of the year. They aren’t used to the spotlight and will let their rankings go to their collective heads. They do it every year. They wind up losing to a team they shouldn’t lose to.
I also think UO will beat USC. Not only beat them, but beat them by at least 2 TD’s. I caught part of their game this weekend, and they’re rolling right along.
Iowa will lose, IMO. I watched the last part of the Iowa/Penn St. game and they looked like a bunch of slow, fat slugs. And going off the fact that they barely beat Arkansas St, MSU and Northern Iowa, I really think they’ll drop at least one if not more.
God this weeks rankings have me irritated. /faceplantonmykeyboard…repeatedly
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Here we go
Iowa loses @ Ohio state
Usc loses @ Oregon
Tcu loses to Utah
and otherwise if 1 or none of those happen the difference between 4th place and 8th place is what like .001 lmfao i mean tcu is only ahead of us by like .02 or w.e. it is but overall like i said between 4th and 8th the difference is paper thin still along way to go kids sit back and enjoy the ride until then GO BRONCOS!! Finish strong blow remaining teams out and try to Impress with the quote on quote “style points” that dont matter anywas lol
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 6:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunately,
that UTAH is not that good. Cain floats the long ball. We should’ve won that game handily but some bad ball security let them back in it.
The other thing: I’ll be surprised if we beat USC as much I hate to admit it. ‘SC can neutralize the spread and we can’t really attack the secondary, which looks to be the most vulnerable.
Iowa will lose.
i'm a utah fan first and still see the writing on the wall.
utah does not have the horses this year and they are down to 2 healthy rb’s. andy dalton is twice the qb that t. cain is. that is not to direspect t. cain. he has only played 7 games in fbs football. dalton (who is a jr.)is 26 -5 in his three years of quarterbacking.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 25, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
the game is in fort worth and it's in three weeks
it is also a revenge game. last year at rice-eccles stadium the fans had a blackout. tcu’s field goal kicker missed two critical fg’s in the game. brian johnson marched the utes downfield for the game winning td late in the fourth quarter. you think gary patterson will play some of that game the week of that game?
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 25, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Our only hope
Is that TCU’s offense doesn’t show up like it hasn’t in several games this year.
But you saw plenty of them in Provo.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
Our offense is good
Have you seen the weather we have played in? Clemson pouring rain, Air Force freezing rain and 8 degree wind chill, trust me we will average 40 points the last 5 weeks
BUT
But to compensate for the spread, what usc throws 2 or 3 lbs in the middle of the field and man on man if massoli can run, run the option get it to dickinson and his great backs i think oregon wins big. Oregons “d” has really stepped up even with a ton of injuries. ok granted sc will move the ball n score but if oregon gets the ball going on the ground sc throws 8 in the box that to stop the run that opens the spread right back up and im sure chip kelly has already started to study sc and how ore st moved it and how nd moved it against them. plus playing at home in such a hostile territory sc will crumble just like at UW.
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 6:19 PM PDT reply actions
Canfield played a lights out game...
and I still never felt like the game was in question. John Canzano, a beat writer, said a "SC fan lit up a cigar in the stands with 3 minutes to go. It really felt like ’SC did just enough to win but was never really in danger.
I think Autzen is going to be a challenge for Barkley. We will get in his grill more. I just hope it translates to a win.
I FIGURED IT OUT!!!
The BCS computers tally their results at midnight ET the Saturday prior to the new results.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
is this true??
its the only explanation i can come up with
espn.com
None of Boise State’s remaining opponents ranks in the top 60 of this week’s Sagarin ratings. The only top-60 team left on TCU’s schedule is Utah, and the Utes must play the Frogs in Fort Worth.
If neither team loses, the higher ranked of the two on Dec. 6 will get an automatic berth into the BCS, and the other will have to hope for an at-large invitation from one of the bowls. There’s never been a season with two teams from non-automatic-qualifying conferences in the BCS, but there has also never been a year when two were ranked this high so early.
Why are ya'll mad at us?????
Hey Boise State fans,
First of let me say that you have a fantastic team and deserve to be in the top 10, but don’t get mad at TCU. We are in the same boat as you, we have to be perfect every year to even sniff a BCS bowl and it is complete crap. The only reason we jumped you is because all of our best wins are on the road, that is why Iowa is number one in almost all of the computers. THE BCS as a whole is horrible, the first thing they should do is eliminate automatic bids, it should be the best 12 teams playing not a 8-4 ACC champ like Florida State a couple of years ago. One of us will get screwed unless they take us both, but more more than likely they will take a 10-2 Notre Dame, because of their history. Forget the fact that they haven’t been relevant since 1989 and I think both of our teams would beat them easily. So don’t hate on us we are just doing what we have to do. Come to the Mountain West and they can’t deny us an automatic bid.
Less mad than frustrated.
The BCS powers play a game that pits us against each other. It’s frustrating, and if you ask almost any BSU fan (or TCU fan, probably), they’d both say that both teams deserve a BCS bowl. And if we knew we’d both be able to get one, we’d be cheering each other on.
by Egnowit on Oct 25, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I whole heartedly agree with you! rec'd
The system has kinda made the teams into rivals that will never play each other (during the regular season, at least).
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 25, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
The best thing that could happen would be both of us making it in and knocking off two more AQ teams.
We both deserve one
I completely agree with you that we cheer each other on. I hate OU and watching the Statue of Liberty play was glorious. I do think that there will be alot of pressure on them to take us both because we will both be in the top 6 more than likely. I know that because Cincinnati will lose to Pitt and Iowa will lose to Ohio State. I knew we would be getting killed on the boards and I just wanted to defend my boys. We are a damn good team and we deserve respect. Just ask Texas, A&M, OKST., and Oklahoma they will never play us. At least Tech has some balls. Just checked Bowl Projections on ESPN and Schlabach and Feldman both have us in. Lets pray they are right.
SC will crush Oregon
Has anybody noticed that Carroll doesn’t lose late in the season???
NO crushing in Autzen
Have you been to game in Autzen Stadium? It is as tough as the tidy bowl in Boise.
Very loud with twice as many fans. It will be a very close game, I pick UO by four.
by BSU Alumni stranded in Portland on Oct 25, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
so
cbs sports is still picking bsu to go to the big game.
espn.com is picking both tcu and bsu going. right on
mark may...
im wanting a mark may sex scandal so he can get fired….
haha
but then again it is mark may..
You could always start a rumor...
I hear that with photoshop you can make anyone look guilty.
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 25, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Erin Andrews
Just say he was the one making the tape of her in the hotel room.
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by forseyfan36 on Oct 25, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
That would probably do it.
Probably should be careful, you know how rumors seems to sprout legs from this sight. Jared Zabransky does.
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 25, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't blame USC on the computers
They’re ranked 9th there, behind the Broncos. It’s the silly voters, who have them ranked 4th despite having a loss, and no win over a team as good as Oregon.
Iowa, you can blame on the computers if you’re so inclined.
Everyone ahead of us seems vunrable.
I really think that Florida and Bama might choke eventually also. They haven’t very good the last two weeks. Texas seems to be the only one that looks like clear sailing. Iowa will lose eventually and Cincy will lose also.
What would be really funny is if everyone ahead of of us and TCU started losing and everyone ended up with 2 loses. Then you have a TCU and BSU as the only remaining unbeaten teams playing for an NC. Mark May’s head would explode! That would be the greatest thing ever. Not going to happen but we can dream. I really hope Oregon pulls it off in Autzen this weekend and it gives us a boost. BSU and TCU both playing in games this year would be great. I think either team could play with anyone in the nation right now.
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by forseyfan36 on Oct 25, 2009 9:42 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
rec'd...
for dreaming so good
I love the colors Orange and Blue. Go Broncos!!! Go Titans!!!
by TitanBronco on Oct 26, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Good news
is both TCU and Boise are highly ranked with half a season left if both win out and they are impress i believe with the way the big teams are playing sloppy both bsu and tcu get in no matter who is ranked higher, I mean the teams that get in Florida, Alabama, Texas, Oregon, Iowa, Georgia Tech, Cincy, Tcu, Boise st, and USC no other teams have really been impressive this year to get a bid over both Bsu and Tcu specially if they go undefeated, granted sos might be higher or w.e. but look at consistency week in week out.
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 25, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions
Bad News-It's all about the Benjamins
The orange or sugar bowl would probably choose 2 loss LSU over BSU due to its fan base.
And if Penn State or Ohio State win out, they’ll probably get in as well, because the Big Ten is supposedly so amazing. As long as OKST loses to Texas this weekend there should be no worries from the Big 12 anyway.
by ce'sped azul on Oct 25, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Fact of the matter is, Boise beating Oregon at home was a good solid win, and is better than any one win TCU has so far. TCU winning at Mormonland, Death Valley and Virginia is a superior slate to anything that Boise has. In the end, the reputation of the Mountain West as a superior conference to the WAC and TCU’s win over a similar Bronco squad last year will push the Frogs into the BCS over Boise if both finish undefeated. The system sucks, but that’s probably how it ought to be.
As for Iowa, their opponents have a better w/l record than all of the unbeatens, including the SEC sloggers, so their rating is far more valid than Cincinnati’s.
MWC a superior conference than the WAC? I beg to differ than that.
At least this year anyway. BYU had no reason being ranked even with the win over OU. Look at OU now. They’ve dropped 3 already this year and can conceivably drop at least one more by the end of the year. Utah is only ranked because of their bowl win last year. Plus with their loss at an Oregon still rediscovering themselves after the loss at BSU, they should’ve dropped like a rock in a pond. TCU had problems with mediocre BCS teams. The bottom half of the WAC is even with the bottom half of the MWC. The middle of the WAC is better than the middle of the MWC. All in all, I’d give the slight edge to the WAC.
Funny thing about last year’s bowl. BSU’s team wasn’t nearly as good as it is this year and you guys BARELY beat us. This year, I’d take BSU to win a rematch between the two, hands-down.
As for Iowa, you can’t tell me that they’re better than both TCU and BSU. With a miracle win over an FCS team, a 3 point win over a Sunbelt team and a literal last second win over a crappy Big 10 team, you seriously think they DESERVE their ranking? Gimme a break. Their ranking is the most laughable of the weekend.
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Anyone listen to Brad Edwards last night on ESPN?
He said basically the same thing he said the week before,
Spots 4-8 in the BCS are essentially tied. He said not to pay attnetion to the rank, but rather pay attention to the BCS averages. 4-8 are all so close, one game can completely upset the order of the four teams, as evidenced last weekend. He closed by saying to expect this flip-flopping to happen again before the end of the year, especially if a loss hits a top 8 team, which is likely. Last weekend was the first time all year that no team in the top 8 lost.
I agree somewhat with his logic. But obviously “winning pretty” and “style points” go right out the window when talking about the Broncos. The double standard is what gets me. Alabama, Iowa, and USC have to squeak out wins at the end of games, and they throw out terms like “tough” “hard-fought” “SEC football”, and on and on. Give me a break! Every team has those games in every conference. The pandering is out of control.
TCU played well I have to admit. So did Boise State. But BYU looked as inept as Hawaii did. Beating a ranked team should carry more weight, no doubt. I’m just not so sure BYU should’ve been ranked.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
First, do you guys understand the BCS? As you said, no one in the top 8 lost. So BSU isn’t going to be moving up in the polls. If you looks at the numbers for polling, BSU stayed exactly where they were. Here are the point rankings that BSU had last week, and this week.
.8032, .7817, .840
.8046, .7810, .740
The Harris and Coaches poll numbers are the same, but BSU got absolutely hammered in the computers, because the computers aren’t allowed to use margin of victory. So it all comes down to strength of schedule and wins and losses. Nothing else. So every game that BSU plays the rest of the season, they will likely fall in the computers (unless people above them lose). Heck, Oregon has already passed BSU in the computers and the Ducks still have the top half of the Pac-10 to play (USC, Arizona, Stanford, Oregon State) . If the Ducks win out (big if, but this is all theoretical), they will pass BSU. Pollsters will be split even with the head-to-head loss, but the computers will push it over the top.
You can whine all you want about all the bias and the pandering, but it’s the unbiased sources that are killing you guys, not the biased ones.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
First no one is saying Boise State should’ve moved up, so slow down Turbo.
Second, according to rivals.com SOS is not part of the BCS formula. In any event, why don’t you pray to the SOS gods that Oregon beats USC this weekend, that’s what I’m doing.
Third, BCS Guru Jerry Palm was quick to point out this,
“Keep in mind, this probably isn’t permanent,” said Palm, who owns and operates CollegeBCS.com. "A lot can change. We’re showing the computers are fickle.
and this,
“TCU has to go out and put up appropriate numbers on opponents,” Palm said. “They are a 13-10 win away from losing ground.”
Judging by TCU’s performance up to last week, it likely a 13-10 game will come their way.
He also said if both Boise State and TCU go undefeated, TCU will be ahead.
He just thinks it will be very close and could come down to the final weekend,
“If you made me go to Vegas and bet on it, I’d bet on the Frogs,” Palm said. “It’s just not a sure thing.”
As I said on another post, there’s a lot of football still to be played.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
Oh, I missed you Mikrino….
Did you even bother reading what I wrote? You and a lot of other people are complaining of all sorts of stuff, like when you said, “pandering is out of control.” So while you weren’t complaining about BSU not rising, you were complaining about a whole lot of other stuff, and none of the things you were complaining about had anything to do with BSU’s drop in the polls.
Also, while SOS is not a direct part of the BCS formula, it plays a massive part in the computer rankings, as the computer rankings are not allowed to use margin of victory.
And yes, there’s a lot of football left to be played. So I don’t know why you guys got all flipped out in the first place.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Did you read what I wrote?
But obviously "winning pretty" and "style points" go right out the window when talking about the Broncos. The double standard is what gets me. Alabama, Iowa, and USC have to squeak out wins at the end of games, and they throw out terms like "tough" "hard-fought" "SEC football", and on and on. Give me a break! Every team has those games in every conference. The pandering is out of control.
Pandering yes, by ESPN, to BCS teams who look awful when they win, and are praised for it anyway. Especially when it’s the exact opposite for Boise State. But I never said Boise State should have moved up in any poll. If anyone didn’t deserve moving up it was Iowa and USC.
ESPN talking heads said all week leading up to the Tulsa game how it was Boise State’s “toughest remaining game on their schedule”. If anyone actually watched the game, they saw Boise State dominate Tulsa everywhere but the scoreboard, similar to when they played Oregon. But since it was only a 28-21 win, BSU looked unimpressive, “barely got out” with a win.
A week later Iowa and Alabama win on the very last play of their games. Games in which they looked out matched, and they get credit for “tough, hard fought wins”. Meanwhile Boise State completely demoralizes a conference opponent 54-9, and its basically ignored.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
I have to agree Mikrino
I was watching the BSC show on ESPN last night and Shaun King needs a full frontal lobotomy, along with a prostate exam. He argued FOR Iowa and how the “good teams find ways to win” and how they should play for the NC. I seriously would’ve shot my television had I had a gun. Instead I had to settle for flipping him off…well flipping the tv on which he appeared off. All the other analysts did pretty much the same thing for the other top teams that struggled. Yet going back to the UC-Davis and Tulsa games, you hear the term “unimpressive” used extensively and repeatedly in the same breath. THAT, ATQ, is what Mik is talking about pandering.
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First, this pandering you speak of doesn’t affect anything. It didn’t affect the polls, and can’t affect the computers, so I still don’t understand why you’re so upset.
Second, you can talk all you want about double-standards and all that. But when the Broncos struggle with UC Davis and Tulsa (at least in the box score), Boise State will get dinged for it, because those teams suck. No one cares that you guys killed Hawaii. Hawaii blows. They are ranked 121st in the nation in Sagarin and are simply an atrocious football team. Michigan State State and Arkansas (who other top 5 teams struggled with) are top 50 football teams. As someone mentioned, there’s not even a top 60 team left on BSU’s schedule. With the BSU’s strength of schedule, they need to be beating the crap out of every team they play, and they just haven’t done that.
You may not like this, but there is a difference of struggling with Tulsa , and struggling with Arkansas. Boise State is a good team. They get A LOT of respect (they’re 5th in the nation). Finding a way to win is important. But if BSU wants to be in the conversation of the best few teams in the land, they can’t afford to have any close games. The competition level is just not the same.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
That is true
I am sure that we will see a lot more scores like we saw against Hawaii throughout the rest of the season. The only game that could be different is against Nevada. But, Boise State knows how to shut Nevada’s offense down and will do it again.
I thought that Idaho would have had a better showing against UNR, it just makes me think that the Idaho game will be that much more of a beat down. There is nothing that any of us can do about anything right now. Lets just let it go and hope for the best.
There is no reason that two non-AQ’s can’t go to a BCS game, this could be the year to make it happen.
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 26, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
There is no reason that two non-AQ’s can’t go to a BCS game.
Yes there is: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ With the amount of money at stake, I just don’t see any of the bowls going with a second non-AQ conferences team. As much as it sucks, at large bids are in no way about who deserves them, they are simply about which teams will make that specific bowl game money. This is one of the reasons why Big 10, Big 12, SEC always get the second bids, because those schools have larger bases that will draw massive crowds and TV ratings.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I understand that,
however with all the talk about that over the last couple years, if it would or could happen, this would be the year for it. But all of this speculation is irrelevant if either team stumbles and loses a game.
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 26, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
If ND is eligible, it would be awfully tough for a non-AQ team. Auto slots would go to the big 6, TCU/BSU, ND, then at large would go to the second SEC team, so there would only be one slot left, for a possible one-loss Iowa team, possible one-loss Penn State, possible two loss USC or Oregon, the ACC runner up that doesn’t have to go to the championship game.
Notre Dame really screws everything up.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Dang Golden Domes
I blame Jimmy “The Ostrich” Clausen:
Rrrrrr, he bothers the crap out of me!
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 26, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
As I said earlier
Give me a break! Every team has those games in every conference.
I agree Boise State needs to roll over their WAC counterparts, because they are terrible. And, I agree Boise State is attaining a certain amount of repsect and credibility being ranked in the top 5.
Also, I’m not implying that the ESPN pundits are affecting the polls, I’m just saying they’re morons.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
So hypocracy is acceptable?
ATQ, are you saying that it’s ok for Iowa to barely win against 3 VASTLY inferior opponents but not ok for BSU to have an off-game against better competition (although not THAT much better)? Explain how there’s a difference? And don’t give me that “they’re a BCS team” crap. A crap team is just that…a crap team regardless of conference affiliation.
I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!
I agree
Listen, BSU has to schedule real teams out of conference. You can’t just wait until somone is willing to give you a home and home. You want to prove your relevant and you schedule Tulsa as you OOC road game. As a TCU fan trust me no one will give us a home and home so every year we are going on the road to Oklahoma, Texas, Clemson, Arkansas next year, as well as Texas Tech. We also have scheduled LSU in the next couple of years. BSU went to Georgia a couple of years ago, that is the game you need to be scheduling every year. LEAVE THE WEST COAST!!!!!
Uhhh...Boise is not on the west coast.
Maybe you should get out of the southeast more.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
Are you really this petty?
You have played Oregon and Oregon state home and home, and washington. Just giving a broad reference, but I guess it’s easier to be petty when you have no real facts to backup an argument. Enjoy the girls with cankles.
They have also played,
Arizona State, UCLA, Wisconsin, Arkansas twice, South Carolina, Louisville(in Memphis), and Georgia. I haven’t played anyone, I just watch. Just to broaden your reference for you, you left some stuff out.
ALL of those games were on the road and none included a home and home series, Chief.
So don’t run me the line that Boise State refuses to schedule one way games against bigger schools, because it simply isn’t true. Boise State has always traveled like any other NAQ team since joining DIA. Take into account the fact they travel to Louisiana and Hawai’i every other year and I’d wager they travel a few more miles than most schools. Florida, for example hasn’t played an OOC game outside the state of Florida since 1991. How’s that for not traveling (The game was at Syracuse, IN A DOME)?
I guess you wanted real facts. So real facts you get.
And for the record, my wife doesn’t have cankles.
Petty much?
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
I know.
I was only including eastern opponents since this buffoon says Boise State is a “West Coast” team.
Western? Sure
Northwest? Absolutely
West Coast? Ummm NO
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
So while you weren’t complaining about BSU not rising, you were complaining about a whole lot of other stuff, and none of the things you were complaining about had anything to do with BSU’s drop in the polls.
Actually, I was doing the opposite. Pointing out that several people said the flip-flopping was irrelevant at this point.
Then I went on to what point out what I can’t stand, which is ignorant “experts”, “analysts” (whatever they choosed to be titled) who have no real sense of objectivity.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
We missed you, too
Can I finally answer that YES, I would keep Kellen Moore over Colt McCoy?
You really had me pre-season on that question. I really like Colt McCoy and his play. But I love Kellen Moore and his incredible intelligence. It’s hard to choose between the two.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
I’m still impressed with how Kellen looked against Oregon. He looked like he was simply playing Madden out there. He’s a great QB.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
We all knew the computers would kill us.
We just didn’t think it would come so close.
What’s bad is that although the Coaches/Harris/AP Polls have us about where we were at last week, they will play off the BCS poll week by week and we’ll drop in them as well.
::sigh
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
i would not listen to brad edwards he projected tcu at #9
i saw him on college football final and can tell he is extremely biased toward aq bcs conferences. another smuck espn needs to get rid of. todd mcshay is another one. he says bradfodr will only fall out of the top ten. he must be kidding. jake locker, colt mccoy and dan lefevour all get picked before him. i could see him fall to a late second round pick considering he can’t take a good hit by one player from byu and one player from miami. what’s going to happen when 2 nfl lineman hit him. can anybody say ken dorsey. peace
by wolfmanshowlforever on Oct 26, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I gotta say, I am disappointed in the new BCS rankings.. Although not really shocked that we dropped. I figured it’d happen eventually, just didn’t think it’d come after a 45pt win.. Which to me makes no sense..
I think the MWC has figured out a system to beat the system. Have 3 teams play average at best OOC schedules. Then make those 3 teams play eachother late in the season. Hoping that atleast one of those teams is undefeated and the other 2 only have 1 loss. That way all 3 will be ranked when they have to play each other, thus making a “stronger” sos. and give them quality wins. If all goes well 1 team will finish undefeated and have “quality” wins vs. ranked opponents… and 2 garbage bcs teams. So far it is working perfectly. It worked last season with Utah, now it’s working again this year with TCU. The WAC just needs to find someone that doesn’t choke on a regular basis in games vs. average bcs teams.
by Ihavenofriendzz on Oct 26, 2009 9:16 AM PDT reply actions
BYU
I don’t think ANY of us can make the case that TCU, Utah’s, or BYU’s OOC schedule was “average at best.”
Oklahoma, Oregon, Virginia, Florida State, Clemson… all these are really good teams. And only one of them played on a MWC teams home field.
Sure, we can say that these teams are nothing NOW, but when they scheduled them, most of these teams were powerhouses.
I’m just saying, don’t take any credit from the MWC scheduling. I would only hope that we could be so fortunate to have a schedule like that. Not even our schedule next year compares to what BYU and TCu put on their docket.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
While those teams are BCS teams,
I’ll give out a reminder.
OU-WIN—OU sucks this year. They can conceivably lose another game before the end of the year.
Oregon-LOSS—The ONLY good team listed…and Utah lost to them. I see the Ducks winning the PAC 10 this year.
Virginia-WIN—TCU barely beat them. Hell, Virginia lost to an FCS team. Or was it a DIII team? I can’t remember. Regardless, that was a HORRIBLE loss for Virginia.
Florida St.-LOSS—Florida St. sucks nuts this year. And they face-rolled BYU, stole their milk money (since they can’t steal their coffee fund money…honor code violations ya know?), AND kissed all the BYU players’ girlfriends.
Clemson-WIN—This is another squeaker of a win. At most I’d say this was a decent win for TCU, although I wouldn’t hold out hopes for the decency to hold til the end of the year. If history repeats, Clemson will wind up sucking as is the norm for them.
I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!
EXACTLY
Cept for that Clemson win that looked good only cause they beat Miami. Tcu hasnt beat anybody in the top 10. Atleast we beat Oregon i believe their currently at 10th. Tcu fans who have you beaten cept for Clemson which is ok at best only reason their good is cause of spiller. Virginia lost to william and mary lmfao BYU only beat the sooners cause bradford was out, and otherwise byu was overrated to begin with they got crushed by FSU what else is there ??? a half-ass’d utah team that lost alot of players from that sugar bowl team last year specially their star qb johnson. so overall tcu get off your high horse you haven’t beat anybody. If you beat us out in the final rankings congrats hope you guys win the big 1 carry the flag for the small guys, but if you fall flat on your face in your 1st ever bcs bowl game then maybe the broncos should have gone, we all remember the broncos 1st bcs bowl game :)
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 26, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions
I am glad you think so highly of Oregon
Will you guys get off the Oregon win, I am glad that you beat them at home on opening weekend, but since that game they really haven’t beat a team that is any good. Using the logic I have seen on this board, they beat a completely overrated Cal team, a UCLA team that couldn’t score on some high school teams, a 3-5 Washington team, an overrated Utah team, a crappy Purdue team and Washington state who might be the worst team in the BCS conferences. Oregon faces the first real team they have seen since Boise, let’s not crown them a top 5 team before they play the meat of their Pac-10 schedule. SC is fast and always plays up in big games, They might look mediocre some times, but don’t forget that they have at least 20 NFL draft picks on that team while Oregon maybe has 4-5. Let’s see how good that win looks after the last 5 games. Don’t forget that Clemson could still win the ACC, they are the leaders in the Atlantic division. The first BCS win for Boise was great, but remember you played an OU team with PAUL THOMPSON, a converted wideout for a QB and OU lost two other games that year. Also remember we beat OU too, but we did it in Norman.
UAB W 24-17 1-0 (0-0)
Washington W 37-20 2-0 (0-0)
Oregon L 34-33 2-1 (0-0)
MTSUW 59-0 3-1 (0-0)
Texas L 28-10 3-2 (0-1)
Iowa State W 34-9 4-2 (1-1)
Colorado W 24-3 5-2 (2-1)
Missouri W 26-10 6-2 (3-1)
Texas A&M W 17-16 7-2 (4-1)
Texas Tech W 34-24 8-2 (5-1)
Baylor W 36-10 9-2 (6-1)
Oklahoma State W 27-21 10-2 (7-1)
Nebraska W 21-7 11-2 (8-1)
Boise State L 43-42 11-3 (8-1)
THEY WEREN"T EXACTLY A JUGGERNAUT!!!!!
R u serious???
Cal was #6 at the time and oregon wasnt given an ice cubes chance in hell to win that one and they blew them out. Crappy purdue team? they beat ohio state granted buckeyes are rebuilding but still osu hasnt lost a big ten road game in what 16 straight times? up till that point. ANDDDDD look at oregon star RB Blout out, the QB’S been banged up, they have 3 starting Corner backs out for the season along with a starting lb and ol. If you take those injuries and apply them to any other team i think they wouldnt even do as half as good as the ducks has done to overcome adversity and fight through every game convincingly. So yet again before you go running your mouth look at the facts their bub.
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by BoiseFanSince98 on Oct 26, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Me thinks I smell something funny.
I smell this whenever I read TCU OUTHOUSE JOHN’S posts.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
Get off the Oregon win? As soon as you get off Sammy Baugh and Davey O'brien.
At least were in 2009.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
BSUbound for BCS
Who ever is calling the shots and feeding the B-LS-T into the computers for what they claim are BCS standings should be removed. I think that all of the polls should use the same info, criteria and points or whatever they use to decide who,what and where teams should list in the standings and it should all be fair to all 120 teams, it should have nothing to do with favortism, $$$$, or location the teams are from. What ever happened to fairness and honesty????
Maybe
Congrats to TCU. Given how the system is set up I expected to get jumped. Last year BSU was 9 and TCU 11. I assume that Ohio St. was 10 or maybe 12, so I can kind of see why they took O St.. But I really want both TCU and BSU to stay in the top 7 or 8. I would really like to see what the BCS would come up with to keep one of us out. It would expose the BCS for what we all know it is, not an effort to pair the best teams in the country, but just a way to assure that the “big 6” get as much money as possible. I think hope, if we stay around where we are, the pressure from the media and others would make it very hard for the BCS not to take both.
I still think we both should go
I know that I have talked a little trash, but my original post still stands, I think we both deserve to go. Just don’t undermine everyting TCU has accomplished.
And exactly WHAT has TCU accomplished?
Nothing, nada, zip as of yet.
I hate everyone equally...especially Vandals!
I agree very much.
But, I also think we fans are setting ourselves up for failure if we think that because were were kept out last year, it won’t happen again. Bowl Representatives make these decisions and come to bowls not to look at the teams, but to look at their fans.
In the end, they will make the decision not to invite Boise over a 2 or 3 loss team that comes from a big market.
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
TCU has accomplished?
OHHHH! Right!
I forgot you guys are still celebrating that National Title from back in 1938.
Or is it the MWC championship back in 2005?
Or the 60 seasons in a row without a 10 win season?
So many choices…
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
I was referring to this season
I mean what we have accomplished this season and I only brought up our old players because someone referred to Virginia losing to us as a horrible loss for them. I was just stating that we do have a proud tradition. How many division 1 titles does Boise have? You criticize me for bringing up the past, but since the Fiesta Bowl, ya’ll act like your college football elite. I am not foolish enough to think you will be reasonable, but if Boise and TCU were in the Pac-10 and Big 12 respectively we would both be middle of the road most years. Boise couldn’t hang with SC year in and year out, and TCU couldn’t hang with Texas and OU. I understand that you are on a high right now, but please don’t tell me you honestly think you could run through the Big 12, SEC, or Pac-10 year in and year out. I know we couldn’t. Also you claim all these great wins, outside of OU and 2 wins over Oregon, since 02 you are 6-7 vs teams from BCS conferences, we are 15-7, which shows two things were not scared to go on the road and when we do play them WE WIN. I was used to think that Boise deserved all of the accolades, but when I went back and looked at you schedules, are you kidding me, Except for one trip to Georgia, you have stayed on the West Coast and filled in most of your schedule with Bowling Green and Miami of Ohio. Three years you have had AN AMAZING SEASON and lost your Bowl game, BC in 05, Louisville, and us Last Year. You guys remind me of Texas Tech out here, your level of self worth is so overinflated, considering that when you play a real team most of the time you lose. Go to the PAC-10 like one poster said and get your ass kicked for a few years.
Here ... we ... GO! * cracking knuckles *
Virginia lost to William and Mary. That, was a horrible loss for them. Your team beating them immediately became less than impressive once that happened. Don’t chew me out, tell it to the Tribe. Tradition and past (ancient past) national titles have little to do with winning now, and much more to do with immature, in your faceness.
How many Division I National Titles does Boise State have? ONE.
And it carries about as much weight as TCU’s 1938 romp.
You’re gonna have to try harder than that, dickweed.
Like this,
How many BCS Bowl wins does TCU have? Berths? Committee considerations?
Me -1
You – ZERO
We can keep this ignorant pissing contest going if you like, because I know as well as you do, TCU up until 4-5 years ago was nothing for upwards of sixty years. They have a lone pre-WWII National Title. So what, so does SMU. The fact is TCU is a career .520 squad, that is only 46 games above .500.
Raise your hand if you have a losing season this decade. * TCU raises hand *
Me – 2
You – ZERO
Boise State is an all time .701 team, and if you just want to count since joining DIA then they’re above .750(127-42), which is good enough for best ALL-TIME winning percentage in Major College Football. Sure, keep saying they play nobody. Keep holding that Poinsettia Bowl win close to your heart. Lord knows, I’m holding that 2003 Fort Worth Bowl close to mine.
Where was that game played at anyway?
Me – 3
You – ZERO
I win, YAY ME!!
I’d like to thank God for giving me the ability to rid this blog of bumbling TCU fans.
And as it says above the Pearly Gates, GO BRONCOS!
Now onto the other non-sensical part of your post.
but if Boise and TCU were in the Pac-10 and Big 12 respectively we would both be middle of the road most years.
If Boise State and TCU were in any BCS conference, they would get BCS money, BCS facilities, BCS coaching Salaries, BCS recruits, etc. Therefore it would be entirely up to how the said program took advantage of the opportunities at their disposal. Just blindly saying they would be “middled of the road” is ignorant to the facts, not cognizant of them.
Kind of like this quote,
Except for one trip to Georgia, you have stayed on the West Coast and filled in most of your schedule with Bowling Green and Miami of Ohio.
See the post above where earlier I already made you look like a fool for Graham Watson Style fact checking.
I have an idea, call TCU’s AD and tell him you want the Horned Frogs to schedule a home and home series with Boise State. Because beating your ass on this blog just isn’t doing it for me anymore. It’s not you, it’s me. I DON’T LIKE YOU.
Until then, take your ball and go home.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Oct 28, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
WOW you really are delusional
First all I said Division 1 titles and I checked don’t see Boise anywhere. SO maybe you should check your facts ME 1 YOU 0
I’ll give you the BCS game, but I have stated on here numerous times that I watched every minute of that game and was pulling for Boise the whole time.
Keep pumping up that winning percentage, once again it is against horrible teams. Check your regular season road games since ‘02 against BCS opponents. YOU ARE 1-5. Arkansas in ’02, Oregon State in ’03, Georgia and Oregon State in ’05, Washington in ’07 and then you won at Oregon last year, check it. All those years where we sucked I agree with you but we were also playing Texas and Texas A&M every year. Southwest conference maybe you remember it. I know its not the Big Sky, but maybe you can admit that our competition was a little tougher.ME 2 You 0
The whole point of saying we would be middle of the road, was saying that as of now, we would be, even with BCS amenities, do you really think a Cali kid is going to pick Boise over SC. Hmmm girls and beaches, potatoes and snow. Tough decision. The big boys are the big boys whether we like it or not, all the other schools in their conferences have this magic BCS wand as well and the same teams seem to be in the mix every year. I wonder why? The other schools have a chance but when Texas, USC, Ohio State, Notre Dame, LSU, Florida, and the other schools have a top flight coach they would beat teams like ours 8 out of 10 times. Get over it, what has Boise done that makes you think they could hang every year. Beat Utah State? Beat Fresno? Beat Nevada? Beat Hawaii? You still have not made a compelling argument on how your winning percentage means anything. If Florida or Texas played your schedule they might not have lost a game this decade.Me 3 You 0
And please call your AD and setup a home and home, we won’t let you hang around this time. I am sorry that you don’t like me considering you don’t know me, when does you anger management class get out?. I love talking about footbalI and only got on here to have a discussion about how the BCS sucks with another school that has to put up with their bullshit.
Final point, all I have ever said negative about Boise is that you have played top flight competition and I know you will come back at me with some ignorant insult about TCU vs those teams as well. All you do when you do that is prove my point, I am proud of my Frogs this year and if we get to a BCS bowl game I will be very excited, Now I know you think you have kicked my ass, but if we got 50 unbiased fans in here and let them look at your schedules since ‘02, who side of the argument do you think they would fall on? You have a great program, but if you don’t want to be disrespected leave the Smurf Turf and go kick some teams’ ass, but like your record in the regular season shows, you don’t schedule those games and when you do you normally lose. Until that changes you will be disrespected every year.
One more thing
If any of you guys are friends with Mikrino, please give that guy a hug he sounds like he is about to pop a vein in his forehead.
I couldn't reach him.
I have him a rec instead!
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
We do have a title in Div 1
It was in 1980 and it was 1-AA. Still Div 1.
You have to be more specific when talking divisions. You should have said 1-A Titles.
"I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass."
Except for in 1938 D-IA wasn't called D-IA.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
setting the record straight
…“First all I said Division 1 titles”…
boise state 1980 division1aa national champions
ding ding ding round to mikrino
… “All those years where we sucked I agree with you but we were also playing Texas and Texas A&M every year.”…
you were also playing rice (298-429-22 since 1940), baylor (521-523-43 all time / series with tcu tied at 49-49-7) and smu (437-455-54 all time / series with tcu; tcu leads 43-39-7). so you were losing against texas, and texas tech and arkansas and weren’t any better than rice, and baylor, and smu.
and another thing: tcu 2 wac championships — bsu 6 wac championships.
ding ding ding round to mikrino
…“You still have not made a compelling argument on how your winning percentage means anything.”…
and your’s does? tcu all time 556-511-57 .520
i’ll still take bsu’s bsu all time 340-144-2 .702
and another thing: tcu ooc opponents: 2010 baylor, smu, texas tech
2011 baylor, texas tech, navy
2012 virginia, smu, navy, oklahoma
2013 lsu, smu
bsu ooc opponents: 2010 oregon state, virginia tech
2011 utah
2012 oregon state, utah, byu
2013 byu, utah
just looking at it tcu’s schedule isn’t that much different than bsu’s is it!?
…“but if you don’t want to be disrespected leave the Smurf Turf and go kick some teams’ ass, but like your record in the regular season shows, you don’t schedule those games and when you do you normally lose. Until that changes you will be disrespected every year.”…
how more succinctly can i put it than - kiss my ass froggie!
ding ding ding round to mikrino
…"
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Oct 28, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok Joe Bob
When are you going to realize that I am not trying to say that TCU is elite or better than Boise overall, I am just stating that if you want to be taken as a serious NC contender every year, you have to schedule better and the same goes for us, otherwise you will always be a statue of liberty play and smurf turf, that when the analysts talk about you it won’t always start with,“despite their weak schedule”. What point did you make with your ooc opponents, since we are in the mtn. west, I guess you can add utah and byu to our list and once again two years with no BCS opponents. Our Texas tech nullfies Oregon State and LSU nullfies VA Tech, so our schedule is still better. None of you can justify the schedule, you keep trying by throwing out that your percentage is better than ours, I know that, but again it is against shit. 6 WAC titles wow, I know we only have two but we were only in the league for 6 years, and we also have a CUSA title when that league contained, Louisville, CIncinatti, South Florida, and Southern Miss. Add to that a mountain west title and I think we have more than held our own with conference championships and against far superior competition. I know that it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside when other homers back you up, but again you make arguments based on your success against shitty teams. All of theses OOC games, look at your record, have you noticed when College Gameday or the other shows put up winning percentage vs BCS schools, it is Utah and TCU who always head the list. One poster I think correctly stated that you can’t just play one BCS school a year and then play that WAC schedule and bitch about respect. You stated all of the SMU, Baylor, and Rice records, I would pull up Utah State, Idaho, SJ State, and New Mexico State, but what is the point. I wish your team nothing but success like I said from the get go and I hope we both make a BCS game. Does the cold make you guys cranky?? It’s all kiss my ass and dickweed. Im sorry that I was a little off with our conference schedule, but that doesn’t make me an idiot, I was doing it off what I had heard. Oh, and by the way you said typical TCU grad, Boise isn’t ranked academically by the Princeton review, TCU is. So leave your mom’s basement after she makes you a snack and go to your job at Potato World and leave the business in the real world to the educated people and with a name like Joe Bob I can’t be that far off.
When are you going to realize that I am not trying to say that TCU is elite or better than Boise overall
When are you going to realize that you are on the wrong blog?
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
by Mikrino on Oct 29, 2009 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ding ding ding
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Oct 29, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The Princeton Review contains 371 schools
That is really weak considering now that I have looked at the list more extensively, Angelo State is on there and that is where kids out here go when they can’t get in anywhere else, its basically a glorified JC.
with a name like Joe Bob
i’m not surprised you jump to conclusions based on someone’s name. it’s apparent by your rhetoric that you fail to think things through before you open your mouth. fyi: joe bob priddy was bo svenson’s character in north dallas forty — a motion picture starring mac davis and nick nolte loosely based on the dallas cowboys football team of the 1970’s.
the references to my mom making me a snack and the job at potato world are exactly what, as a university of arkansas alumnus, i would expect from a texan.
oh, and one more thing…be sure and turn off your porch light halloween night, john. sure would hate to have you get into trouble with the authorities.
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Oct 29, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Just checking that last comment
This will be my last post because I don’t like the way I have been acting and I don’t know why I got on here in the first place. Joe Bob, maybe I am not up on my Halloween protocol, but was that last paragraph a threat?
it's a joke, john
convicted sex offenders are prohibited from participating in halloween activities. the unlit houses obviously are not visited by children seeking treats. sorry if you somehow mistook that as a threat. how would i follow through on a threat anyway? i don’t know who you are, where you live, etc.
sorry to see you go john. your presence here produced a lot of spirited debate. tcu is a good football team. unfortunately, like bsu, they don’t play the type of schedule that the bcs likes. in the end, though, i think the important thing is that we support our teams and take pride in their accomplishments.
as a final note let me just say “wooo pig! sooie! go razorbacks!” and “go broncos” too.
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by joe bob priddy on Oct 29, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds good
I figured as much, but just checking. I might be back after the utah game, I probably shouldn’t have put the cart before the horse and assumed that we will go undefeated. I will also behave next time, Mikrino’s poll is right in that he can pull the worst out of people. Take care.
Does this mean...
…I’m a sex offender because I like to leave my lights off on Halloween night? (more candy for me!)
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
maybe not but
have your neighbors been looking at you oddly lately?
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Oct 30, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you retarded?
First all I said Division 1 titles and I checked don’t see Boise anywhere.
Did you even click the link above that I gave you? See, I backed up all my facts with links that show them, unlike yourself.
Boise State has TWO national titles, big guy.
1958- NCJAA (Not Division I)
1980- Division ONE- AA Champions. Here, Look again. <Click that.
Maybe you you need a quick rundown of the divisions of Division I football.
YOU ARE 1-5. Arkansas in ’02, Oregon State in ’03, Georgia and Oregon State in ’05, Washington in ’07
See this is what I hate about ignorance. You are going to point toward every stat and fact that proves your point. Most who aren’t objective (while claiming they are) do that. That makes this debate moot. Because you’re including a skewed view of the facts. You’re only looking at losses on purpose, like I’ll be blinded by your wisdom.
I feel dumber for having read it.
The FACT is, since Chris Petersen became the head coach in 2006, Boise State is 4-1 against BCS Schools. Oh damn, you left that one out. Need a list?
Here,
1. Oregon State, 42-14 W 9/7/06
2. (10)Oklahoma 43-42 W 1/1/07
3. Washington 10-24 L 9/8/07
4. (17)Oregon 37-32 W 9/20/08
5. (16)Oregon 19-8 W 9/3/08
Total: 4-1 Need proof? Here. <Click that.
Of those four wins, three of their opponents were ranked at the time. Which means that Boise State, in the last 4 seasons under Petersen, when playing ranked BCS opponents, is 3-0 against them. This would represent a change that you fail to indicated in your sputtered sentence fragments. Why is that?
I pointed out the Broncos past losses to you. So I’m not surprised when you used that to try to flame on. Boise State has been a significantly different program in the last five years, and these games show that. That’s relevant now.
Sure there is the one point loss to TCU. GO ahead, use this too. You can talk about how TCU dominated in the statbook if you like. But the fact is Boise State was in control of the game, stats aside, until the 8:51(<click that) mark of the 4th quarter. At that point, it was the first time in 2008 that Broncos trailed in a game. The Broncos had every opportunity to win that game. Can you say missed field goal? They failed, TCU wins. TCU was dominant.
Awesome. Now there is no need to respond, I covered it for you.
Don’t be mad because I’m better a this than you.
One day, with lots of hard work, you’ll get there. Graduate High School, enroll at ITT Tech, and you’ll be a whiz in no time.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
See. you twist it again to meet your needs. I'd hate to play board ames with you.
This argument is over, Tweedle Dee.
I can start a poll if you like, will that settle it?
Everybody loves the Mikrino Poll. You will too, trust me.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
My degrees by the way
BBA TCU 02
MBA Texas 06
I didn’t realize that my typing would be a subject, just rambling. I saw in your profile that you didn’t finish college. I’ll call you if I need a plumber.
by TCUJOHN on Oct 29, 2009 1:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Uhhh . . .
“But the fact is Boise State was in control of the game, stats aside, until the 8:51mark of the 4th quarter . . .”
Sure, if we’re not counting every play where the ball was snapped and your line was absolutely plowed on both sides of the ball.
You gents played your hearts out, nothing to be ashamed of, but saying you were in control of the entire game is patently absurd.
You guys got creamed physically, and in football? That aint control mate. C’mon guys, lose the chip on your shoulders. You got a great team to be proud of.
Cheers.
see setting the record straight
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Oct 28, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Still waiting for someone to reply
Wow, all the trash talk telling me to check my facts, so I did and prove to you that the only reason Boise has all of these great seasons is that they never play anybody. Another thing, do you realize if it wasn’t for Bowl games you number of BCS conference games goes down under 10 since 2002. You guys really put yourselves out there don’t you. Someone brought up OU in an earlier post and said Boise 1 TCU 0, we beat them too jackass, but like I said earlier we did it in Norman. Why haven’t ya’ll scheduled the school for the blind yet, it would fit your profile.
Don't worry.
Mikrino will probably rip you up later this evening. He doesn’t get on until then.
I, on the other hand, appreciate your insight, but have stopped reading most of your arguments as it’s typically all one-sided. Sorry about that. :o
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
see setting the record straight
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Oct 28, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He can try to rip me
Look I started out posting very positive things about Boise, and I still think you deserve a BCS game this year, but a few people started with the insults and downplaying my team, so I threw them back. If you look at all of my posts I have never said that TCU is a member of college football elite, but with the schedule Boise plays they aren’t as well. The reason we both get disrespected is that while we might have a tough win over a BCS school we follow it with 2-3 creampuffs. When is the last time we played LSU, Georgia, and Tennessee 3 weeks in a row? The BCS schools with the exception of the Big East have much tougher schedules and have to on their game every week. We will crack that ceiling at some point, but we need Boise to go on the road and play a Michigan like Utah did, or go to Clemson like TCU did. All of the non-BCS are in the same boat, Pederson has too schedule tougher games, it hurts out argument that we deserve automatic bids when he schedules UC Davis, bowling green, and the Miami of Ohio’s of the world. All of your non conference should be against BCS schools. Next year we play Baylor, Texas tech, and Arkansas on the road. I am sorry if some of posts were too one sided, but the objectivity has to go both ways.
by TCUJOHN on Oct 28, 2009 9:26 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Next year we play Baylor, Texas tech, and Arkansas on the road.
http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/future_schedules/tcu_future.htm
typical tcu grad. can’t read.
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Oct 28, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
one more thing
lamar in 2013? you can sure be proud having them on your football schedule. lamar is in the process of bringing back its football team. they hired ray woodard in 2008 and are scheduled to start playing again in 2010.
save that all of your non conference games should be against bcs schools bullshit for someone else.
This is national TV. So don't pick your noses or scratch your nuts.
by joe bob priddy on Oct 28, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry about the typos
Trying to type on a iPhone is always interesting
by TCUJOHN on Oct 28, 2009 9:29 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
that's ok, we have a word for that!
Munson’d
you can take that with you if you would like!
TCU is a good team, I think we can all agree with that. This week they are in the target for criticism. I think that everyone was expecting them to jump BSU at some point, I just think that we were expecting that to happen after a less than stellar performance in a game. It will be interesting to see how the polls work out throughout the rest of the season. There is plenty of possibility for more flip-flopping.
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 28, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Moar!
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
Are those the ones you have on your feet right now?
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by OBNUG Intern on Oct 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
From the original munson
I dont even have an Iphone and my posts look like they were typed by a Frog
tvmunson
I think we need a NUGies Award for:
“The Most Comments on a Post Written By Someone Other Than Kevan, Nick or Drew”! If we did, I think I might win!
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I don't know.
Munson loves to over-comment on his own posts :)
"You know where i'm from, a little suspicion about one's true identity and motives is considered good manners."
-- Nale
by Loque on Nov 1, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm back
Hey 6 quick observations
1. Oregon is really good and what does that mauling say about Ohio State and ND.
2. How did we let LaMichael James leave the state?
3. Stanzi throws 5 picks and Iowa still wins by 18, my god the Big Ten is pathetic. Don’t forget Virginia beat that same Indiana 47-7.
4. Alabama is overrated, Virginia Tech was not that good of a win, lose to NC at home, who also lost to Virginia.
5. The real top 5 in no particular order. Texas, Florida, Oregon, Boise State, and TCU.
6. Give Kiffin and that staff 2 more years and watch out for Tennessee.
If we don’t both get in it will be the biggest travesty in the history of the BCS.
I agree
Those uniforms are horrible, when did the blackout become the standard uniform for a big game? Did you see those stupid helmets UGA was wearing?
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