BSU offense vs. TCU defense: Let's get it on!
Today: BSU offense vs. TCU defense, Tomorrow: TCU offense vs. BSU defense, Friday: Intangibles vs. Tangibles
If ESPN has yet to come up with publicity material for Tuesday's Poinsettia Bowl, we imagine that the final product will sound something like this:
"It's Kellen Moore vs. Jerry Hughes! TCU's dominant D vs. Boise State's resourceful O! Mark May vs. credibility! It's Horned Frogs vs. Broncos in beautiful ESPN HD (followed by a new episode of E:60)." Then Ed Werder would come out and give a report about Jeremy Childs getting jealous of secret plays between Kellen Moore and Kyle Efaw.
The point being, the matchup between Boise State's "O" and TCU's "D" is sexy and it sells, and ESPN loves both of those things. There's good reason for all the attention, too. For years, Boise State has been recognized as one of the most cutting edge offensive teams in the country, and TCU's reputation for stinginess precedes itself.
The TCU defense is ranked No. 2 in the country in scoring and No. 1 in rush defense. The Broncos averaged nearly 40 points per game and beat opponents by nearly four touchdowns.
But let's break it down into smaller, bite-size topics. You know, like a fun size Mr. Goodbar. Here's some analysis on Bronco "O" vs. TCU "D" (fact-checking optional).
TCU pass rush vs. Boise State's pass protection
OK, here's the deal: The TCU defense had 41 sacks on the year. The Boise State offense gave up 11. Something has to give.
Let's start with TCU. The Horned Frogs had a sack in every game they played, so it was not like they padded their stats against teams like Stephen F. Austin. Actually, they only had two sacks against the Stephen F.ers. How merciful of them.
Perhaps TCU's most prominent pass rush game was against BYU when they got to QB Max Hall six times. This should tell you that they are fully capable of handling good offensive lines in big-time games. BYU relied on its passing game, and the TCU pass rush helped shut the sucker down.
Now for Boise State. If we've heard people call the Bronco O-line "green" once, we've heard it a thousand times. We get it. They're inexperienced. And pudgy. So what?
The results on the field are all that really matter, and that is where the o-line has performed beyond its expectations, especially in the passing game. Only giving out 11 sacks all year is phenomenal. There were games when Moore was hardly even touched, much less hurried. A lot of credit should go to the Boise State running backs and, in particular, Ian Johnson for picking up blitz after blitz with flawless precision. Blitzing does not worry us in the P-Bowl.
But the two BSU games that really stick out in this discussion are the San Jose State game and the Nevada game. In those two contests, Boise State faced the best pass rushes they had seen all season, and both the Spartans and the Wolf Pack were able to get to the quarterback. Moore was hit, hurried, and hassled a lot in those games, and the scary part is that the TCU defensive line might provide an even tougher challenge.
The only saving grace we can find in this matchup is Moore. While he might not be wrestling defensive tackles himself (although, anything's possible with him!), his mobility definitely plays a part in the pass rush equation. TCU might get past their blockers with regularity, but there's no guarantee that they'll get to Moore. He's shifty in the pocket, and he has a quick release. It will keep the pass rush at bay for awhile, but it might keep the Broncos dinking and dunking their way down the field. In that case, the TCU pass rush wins.
Winner: TCU pass rush
Boise State's running game vs. TCU's run defense
We won't waste your time with this one. TCU allows less than 50 rushing yards per game and less than two yards per carry. Boise State typically abandons the rush in the first quarter. You do the math.
Basically, we'll concede the fact that TCU will win this matchup hands down, but it doesn't preclude the Broncos from trying. There will be Boise State rushing attempts; we're just not sure what they'll look like. You might think they'll try some delays to neutralize the pass rush, but there's really no need when short screens do the same job. We just have one request for Bryan Harsin: if you're going to run the ball, FOR THE LOVE OF IAN JOHNSON, USE A FULLBACK! That's all.
Winner: TCU's run defense
DE Jerry Hughes vs. OT Andrew Woodruff
Hughes is the nation's leading sacker. Woodruff is Canadian. Push?
Probably not. TCU fans believe that Hughes is unstoppable and at least 1/8th Greek god, and we are loathe to agree. The man has tortured opposing offensive lines to the tune of 14 sacks and six forced fumbles. He's a second team All-American. He eats success for breakfast ... with skim milk!
What does Woodruff have going for him? He's built like an icebox (a Sears one, not a Wal-Mart one). He was named first team All-WAC. He can play guard. To the naked eye, the matchup between Hughes and Woodruff is horribly one-sided in the Horned Frogs' favor. But fortunately for us, our eyes are not naked. They are clothed with Boise State apparel from the Blue & Orange Store.
Woodruff will not be able to hold Hughes all game long, but he can make Hughes less of a factor than most people expect. Hell hath no fury like a Canadian scorned (or something like that), and there's no doubt that Woodruff will be motivated to excel on Tuesday. You can't measure heart, unless you're getting an angioplasty or something, and we believe that Woodruff's heart will make a difference in the P-Bowl.
Just how much of a difference is the real question. Hughes might get a sack or two, but if Woodruff can keep him out of Moore's way the rest of the time, the Broncos can succeed. We think he can. We'll call it a moral victory for Woodruff, but an actual victory for Jerry Hughes.
Winner: Jerry Hughes
Boise State's wide receivers vs. TCU's secondary
Quick! Tell us everything you know about the TCU secondary. Done already? OK, now tell us Jeremy Childs' middle name. It's LeCharles. We think.
Point is the TCU secondary might just be the most non-descript part of this terrible (in a good way) unit. Compared to their run defense, TCU's pass "D" is downright charitable, giving up over 160 yards per game. It should be noted that this is still not all that much.
Upon closer inspection, there is hope for the Broncos in the TCU secondary, assuming you have a quarterback the caliber of a Heisman Trophy candidate. Oklahoma's Sam Bradford riddled the TCU "D" for 411 yards and four scores this season. Both Brian Johnson and Max Hall each had over 200 yards passing, too. Part of TCU's gaudy pass stats are courtesy of a tough defense, but another part of it is having teams like Air Force (11 yards passing on 10 attempts) and F. Stephen Austin (three picks) on the schedule.
Contrary to this is the Boise State receiving corps, which is one of the most prolific in school history. Let's start with Jeremy Childs. He's good. And he was absolutely brilliant against Oregon's heralded defensive backfield, snagging balls that he had no business snagging. If the TCU pass rush causes errant Kellen Moore throws, Childs should still be able to catch them.
Then there's Austin Pettis. Boise State could probably throw Pettis fades every play and move the ball right down the field. Add Vinny Perretta to the mix and you have a multi-faceted player who can hurt you with his hands, his legs, and his arm. Julian Hawkins and Tyler Shoemaker make plays, too. And just when you think you have the receivers all bottled up, one of them goes and throws a TD pass on a play no one was expecting.
With much respect for TCU's secondary, the Broncos win this one.
Winner: Boise State's wide receivers
Kellen Moore vs. fate
Freshman quarterbacks aren't supposed to be put in this position. Shoot, Taylor Tharp isn't even supposed to be in this position.
Basically, Boise State's best chance of winning on Tuesday in the P-Bowl is for Kellen Moore to have a great game. It's no different than any other number of games this year.
What Moore has going for him: talent, skill, film study, calmness, accuracy, mobility, leadership, OBNUG's effusive praise. What he doesn't: expectations, TCU defense, angel Mark May and demon Mark May hanging out on his shoulders. We have absolutely no doubt that Moore will be prepared and ready for this game, and that is truly comforting. He'll do everything in his power to get this team a win, but he'll have to overcome a lot to do it.
If he has a bad game (perish the thought), the Broncos are up a creek and will have to count on the defense to bail them out - a very real possibility that we'll explore tomorrow. If he has a great game, then TCU will be behind the eight ball in a big way.
Go ahead, TCU fans, let us have it. We're going with Moore because we always go with Moore.
Winner: Kellen Moore, natch
BSU o-coordinator Bryan Harsin vs. TCU d-coordinator Dick Bumpas
First we should explain that we are not qualified to debate the merits of Dick Bumpas. We know nothing about the man, and we just snickered a little when we read his name for the first time.
That said, Bryan Harsin is a genius, and he turned a rag-tag Boise State offense into a feared machine by the end of the season. He almost always found the right plays to work, and he overcame a complete lack of running game at times to still make the offense click.
Winner: Bryan Harsin
TCU's team speed vs. Boise State's precision
We don't really know what "precision" means, but it sounds good. And it sounds like it would be a good foil for team speed.
Let's assume that it means accuracy and attention to detail, as in Doug Martin taking three steps instead of two before he explodes into a defender. You can make up for a lot of mistakes by having speed, which gives the TCU defense a significant advantage. And since they're well-coached and rarely out of position, their speed is merely an added bonus, one that they can use to grab a bite at Carl's Jr. during lengthy play action fakes.
Going up against a (presumably) superior opponent is nothing new for the Broncos, and typically, by the time that all is said and done, no one seems to recall exactly who was supposed to be superior before the game started. Take Oregon for instance. They were fast and scary on defense, yet the Broncos found ways to make it work, like Moore's fake-fumble-TE-toss. All the speed in the world couldn't have prevented that from happening.
The Broncos will find ways to take advantage of TCU's team speed, and TCU's team speed will help it make up for Boise State's precision. In other words, this one's a push.
Winner: Push
Overall winner: TCU's defense
There are ways that Boise State can score points against the Horned Frogs: Kellen Moore touchdown passes and lucky Ian Johnson 66-yard runs mostly. Apart from that, it will be tough sledding for the Broncos. We'll be thrilled if they get to 28 points, content with 21, worried with 14, and delirious with 7. Any and all of those scores are a possibility, but on paper, we fear a low-scoring outcome.
This is where we breathe a sigh of relief that these games aren't played on paper.
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fantastic, (mostly)un-biased breakdown. The real question is: What will BSU's O-line do when, during their ritualistic line-up and intimidation stare down of the TCU D-line, blood starts squirting from the purple men's eyes?
by Luke on Dec 16, 2008 11:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, luckily, BSU's offense drinks blood, so TCU will merely be supplying protein to them. Thanks TCU!
by pretendhuman on Dec 16, 2008 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Hell hath no fury like a Canadian scorned (or something like that)"
What a wonderful line! When in Rome…
by Ron Burgundy on Dec 16, 2008 11:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh I don't know, its some Irish line that Veronica taught me, I don't get it. Scholars maintain that the translation was lost centuries ago.
by Ron Burgundy on Dec 17, 2008 12:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So Ron, are you and the rest of the Channel 4 News Team going to be at the Poisettia Bowl?
by GHM on Dec 17, 2008 12:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Queen Nefertiti's Golden Locks! That's next week! I better give Champ this web site so he can brush up on his Bronco knowledge. Will someone kindly assist me with a web site for the Horny Frogs?
by Ron Burgundy on Dec 17, 2008 2:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"He eats success for breakfast … with skim milk!"
Ewwwwwww
by Nick on Dec 16, 2008 11:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
TCU fans in other forums are really getting on my last nerve, the game cant start soon enough for me! The score they plan to win by is 17-3 I seriously doubt that will ever happen, who the hell do they think their playing, ohio st. They wish bc that would be a blowout for TCU as it would for us those pathetic losers make me wanna puke.
by Broncos#1 on Dec 17, 2008 12:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait for next Tuesday to get here already. I think TCU does very well on defense. I also think Boise State has a very extensive offensive scheme that gives opposing defenses fits trying to match up. I believe two areas here are being severely underrated, by both, the analysts, and TCU fans.
by Mikrino on Dec 17, 2008 12:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Which two areas are those, Mike Rino? "Kellen" and "Moore"?
by kevanlee on Dec 17, 2008 12:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
2. Boise State's defense is not even being mentioned in the same sentence with TCU's and it should be and here's why;
Scoring D- TCU: 2nd-10.9ppg * BSU: 3rd-12.3ppg-a difference of 1.4 points
Total D- TCU: 2nd-215.1 ypg * BSU: 15th-294.5- a difference of 79.4 yards
Pass efficiency D- TCU is 4th * BSU is 3rd
Red Zone Conversions- TCU is 3rd at 66.67% * BSU is 5th at 70% a difference of 3.33%
Third Down Conv.- TCI is 5th at 28.83% ** BSU is 12th at 30.89% a difference of 2.06%
I could continue in almost every category but you get the idea. The point is this; SURE Boise hasn't faced a D like TCU's. But TCU hasn't faced a D like BOISE's either. In that case, which offense would you want to roll with?
by Mikrino on Dec 17, 2008 12:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Two great points!!! You have effectively laid out what I have been feeling. I was more nervous about the Nevada game then I am about this game. I think they are a great team, but are a lot more evenly matched then most people will admit. This should be a good game, but I won't be surprised if Boise State pulls away in the second half. I can picture Mark May sitting there saying to himself "This Boise State team pretty good, what was I thinking?"
by GHM on Dec 17, 2008 12:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If that happens Mark May will the first of the ESPN revisionists (only because Graham Watson said she won't doubt the Broncos again- yeah right!) They'll go to May in the studio and he'll respond, "Mountain West?, I said BSU would lose 4 games against the NFC West."
by BlueTurf on Dec 17, 2008 12:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt! I can't wait to hear him studder when he realized how wrong he was. I wonder if he will actually praise them or find another way to tear them down.
by GHM on Dec 17, 2008 1:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lou Holtz will douse him with spittle as he reminds him of his erroneous comments!
by Mikrino on Dec 17, 2008 1:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I won't be surprised if it ends up 17-0 Boise State.
by Mikrino on Dec 17, 2008 1:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither.
Mike, I gotta ask you, are doughnuts and hot sause a good combination? Is that a new Southern thing? They weren't doing that when I lived down there.
by GHM on Dec 17, 2008 1:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, that is actually my fantasy football team's name. I don't why I came up with that but I've used it for about 5 years now, actually came up with it when I lived in Twin Falls. So nothing southern about it. O lineman= Doughnuts-Skill Players= Hot Sauce. you get the idea…
by Mikrino on Dec 17, 2008 1:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, that is actually my fantasy football team's name. I don't why I came up with that but I've used it for about 5 years now, actually came up with it when I lived in Twin Falls. So nothing southern about it. O lineman= Doughnuts-Skill Players= Hot Sauce. you get the idea…but anything IS better with hot sauce on it!
by Mikrino on Dec 17, 2008 1:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha! Now that I think about, I remember everyone putting hot sause on everything. So it may actually be a Southern thing afterall.
by GHM on Dec 17, 2008 1:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevan, once again a great viewpoint that is being lost in the media – and as you point out it is mainly lost in the name of hype. The TCU D is probably as advertised, but the intriguing matchup is the TCU offense against the Bronco defense.
by BlueTurf on Dec 17, 2008 12:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait to write tomorrow's BSU D vs. TCU O post and write down Boise State as the winner in each category. It will make my week.
by kevanlee on Dec 17, 2008 2:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Their game with Oklahoma scares me a little. Their game against Utah gives me a little hope. Don't get me wrong, I think BSU should win this, and I would not be overly surprised if it turned into a blow-out. But then again, I would not be overly surprised if Boise State finally showed its age and lost in desperation and mistakes. I could see it being 24-3 or 17-14 with Boise State winning. Or I could see it being 10-7 with TCU winning. What I don't see is the Bronco D giving up too many points to an otherwise mediocre offense.
by KYBronco on Dec 17, 2008 1:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
"Mediocre"?! TCU fans would have you know that they scored FIFTY-FOUR points against Wyoming.
by kevanlee on Dec 17, 2008 2:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wyoming could beat every other team in the WAC
by sir wesley willis on Dec 17, 2008 2:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're seriously defending Wyoming? Are you saying that by beating them you are better than every other team in the WAC? You do know that you guys beat BYU and played hard against Oklahoma and Utah, all top 10 teams (at least at one point). And you decide to defend Wyoming??? There are much better ways to talk smack then to defend your conference's Utah State.
by GHM on Dec 17, 2008 3:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kellen Moore will prove he was the real WAC player of the year for sure in this one or we might not do so well but the thought of that seems impossible when you play like the Broncos did this year!
by Broncos#1 on Dec 17, 2008 2:00 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I picture this game going like the 06 Utah game did. Everyone thought, no down right KNEW, we were going to lose to the utes on their home field and not only did we win, but we won by a huge margin AND we decapitated one poor fellow. The Horny Frogs and their lack of bodily fluid control better make sure they have their catheters in and their chin straps on cause it's gonna be a long night.
by PePe LePew on Dec 17, 2008 3:15 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
1. Boise State's offense is much more comprehensive than most people know. They may not have the strength, speed and skill as did Oklahoma's squad but they compensate for that with misdirection, awkward alignments, multiple motions, and a hurry up offense rarely used at the college level. The whole idea is to confuse and intimidate the defense in an attempt to gain the advantage. Get players out of position and attack that spot on the field. TCU hasn't dealt with that yet.
by Mikrino on Dec 17, 2008 7:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I feel really confident is this game more than any game all year. Its weird.
by Broncos#1 on Dec 17, 2008 7:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I'm not too scared about TCU's D. Sure they are good, but… i just dont see BSU's offense struggling. In almost all of our games, our points have been scored in a VERY short amount of time, categorizing us as "explosive." and i dont think it will be any different this game. It may be close for a time, but TCU's D will get smacked in the face.
by MmMm...Bronco Soup on Dec 17, 2008 7:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe (and this could be the bsu homer in me) Kellen Moore carves up this "impressive" defense like a Christmas goose! TCU lost to Oklahoma and Utah but overall the victories they hand other than BYU are pretty unimpressive! We as fans must have faith in the plan that the broncos have in place and have to know coach Pete wont let a Hawaii bowl repeat happen this team will be ready for any "D" the horned frogies can give us!!
by A_T_L on Dec 17, 2008 8:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm all jittery for tomorrows post! It's like Christmas came early!
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by yingge on Dec 17, 2008 11:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thank you PePe face… you told us what we needed to hear to get the victory from the horndogs. lol just foolin with ya… make the critics and Vegas eat that 3 pt. spread and turn it into 33 and make the bcs idiots eat their own ####. My apologies. Nope, even then they wouldnt' do that they would still eat ohio states.
by Broncos#1 on Dec 18, 2008 4:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs











